Warcry - Legends and the Future of Warcry 

Warcry being a AoS necromunda is everything I wanted.

Those first edition warbands are some of the best miniatures that GW have ever done imo. I stopped buying new Warcry boxes after Bloodhunt and have still not built the terrain for that or anything from Heart of Ghur.

I do wonder if the recent Underworlds 4xreprint makes an old warcry reprint box a possibility.

Games 100% fine.

Zarbags are out in the Rivals of the Mirrored City box aren’t they? More models, new UW deck

Regarding 3.0 I think they won’t support the 1.0 warbands. I also think it’s a real possibility that they won’t even include rules for the models from AoS. It seems more realistic that we get a compendium with all of the 2.0 teams. The current edition is way too bloated. Lastly I wouldn’t be all that surprised if they stop Underworlds and merge it into WarCry in order to make a more competitive game.

Warcry is in a wierd spot. There is part of the community that wants it to be a competitive game, and some who want it to be a narrative/casual game. Unfortunately its very hard with warcry as it is, to be truly competitive. Yes having everything in AOS as a model is nice, but a nightmare to try to balance. Also the way the game was originally played, there were just some missions and deployments that made teams just loose before starting, affectionately called, being "Warcried." So I am not sure how it will happen, but hopefully either mordhiem will release as the narrative skirmish game Necromunda equivalent (story driven, loot and gear customization, less balanced focused on creating fun experiences uses all aos models. Warcry will be the competitive skirmish game, the kill team equivalent (finate knowable but adjustable teams, with a knowablefield for balance purposes), or vise versa.

35:50 zargab gits

I'd absolutely play Warcry if it was about these warbands instead of just generic AOS forces.

I hope you in the comments are right, but I feel that the concern of the impact on warcry is absolutely warranted.

Well this is just affecting AoS, not Warcry😊

I think Warcry being insulated from AoS should happen. Not needing to buy a warband to play Warcry has to be hurting sales to some extent.

Not all of us knew about GW's horrible practices. I'm a new player that started playing GW products last year and I will never buy another product again. There are sooooo many good games out there now, why would I want to support one that literally makes me rebuy things every 2-4 years?!?! the people that know this and are still willing to shell out the money over and over again are just simps for the company. GW is creating a "pay to play" model, where you pay them to play their games and stay competitive. Your entire argument boils down to, since we already have invested so much into it we should just keep playing. Even though GW knows this and is manipulating you with the same idea lol. I guess if I had a long standing nostalgia for the company/game I may see your avenue, but this is like driving head on into freeway traffic not excepting to get hit. Gluck to all you that will stick around.

One thing that bugs me about Warcry discussions, not only about this particular recent idiocy by GW, but in general about Warcry made on youtube, is ALWAYS through the lens of "competitive play". It's rather telling how the presumption revolves around this, when the vast majority pf the consumer and playerbase, never involves themselves in such, nor do they aspire to. Yet here we are, discussing this issue under that filter. As for the issue itself: "meh" GW pulling the plug on basically half of the available options for one game, because they aren't being used in another, is like ripping Goliaths and Escher from Necromunda simply because they aren't relevant in BIG 40K. I am seeing quite a few people reaching really hard to justify these actions by GW, yet the simple fact is that this is an obvious act that doesn't reflect a healthy desire for GW to continue supporting the game, giving customers confidence that the money they work hard for is going to matter beyond 3 years. These warbands being online only, and constantly out of stock for the past two years is evidence enough of that. I am still salty about not being able to find any Corvus Cabal sets in this time. So yes, Warcry is being supported, in the loosest and most generous sense of the term. However, its only being supported by proffering the newest products, and even stuff you bought less than 2 years ago (Hashut) is now irrelevant going forward. If you bought stuff form V1, then their attitude seems to be, according to their actions: "Thanks for being an early adopter, sucker. You could still playing this game you already invested a large sum of money and time in, if only you bought more stuff this month. Sucks to be you." To which I say: "Hmmm I hear the Elegoo mars is on sale this month. Time to switch to the models I want for a hell of a lot cheaper than what is offered by this company and their abusive attitude and practices towards their consumerbase." They dont want my money to buy Corvus Cabal, obviously. So time to buy models from somebody who arent pratts and proxy them instead. And it won't matter, because competitive events are irrelevant to 99+% of the population.

Okay. Savage Orcs are still in The Old World. I guess you can’t say savage anymore, but the option to run Orcs without armor and with war paint instead is still there. I would think that, given that you can still flavor your Boyz as “Bonesplitterz”, GW would want to port the existing AoS models into TOW, even if it’s just as special by order models. I honestly believe that the popularity of TOW caught GW by surprise and they may be rethinking the legacy factions, like Vampire Counts and Skaven, and are considering bringing them back in a second round of releases.

Personally I think Horns of Hashut might be gone for good. GW seems to have had a crisis of identity since Old World's return and have had a messy last minute rush to further divorce the two games. I would conjecture that Old World got custody of Chaos Dwarves in the divorce, and now Horns of Hashut have nowhere to move on to after being cut from Slave to Darkness now that Legion of Azgor (AoSified name for Chaos Dwarves) likely will never become a thing. So I would not be surpised if GW just hand- waves them away like they were never there.

GW really can’t keep everything in production forever. It’s not just producing the models, it’s trying to keep the rules balanced both within a faction, as well as between factions. As sort of a goofy example, I really, really wish I could walk into a Chevrolet dealership and order a brand new 1964 model Chevelle. But for a host of reasons, there’s no way that would be feasible.

The sky isn't falling. GW is heavily supporting Warcry with a stream of new releases. The game is moving on.. It stinks if you're just finishing your Splintered Fang paint job (cough cough, me) and you've supported the game for years, but this practice isn't new. I picked up a 2nd taranulous brood sprue to spam spiders, that didn't age well. This isn't new. Just ask whfbattles players. Warcry has a good spot as the skirmish entry to one of the two main wargames and new content keeps coming. I believe we've got years more of game support in line.. But old sprues are getting chopped. It feels bad yeah.. But nobody can stop me playing my Splintered Fang amongst friends long after GW moves on from Warcry.

As a new player, I have to say: I would not be interested in warcry if those chaos warbands were all they had. I prefer my ghosts, goblins, civilized humans and dwarfs.