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Warehouse Guitar Speakers Veteran 30 Vs Celestion Vintage 30 - High Gain Tones! 

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@Gainovermg
@Gainovermg 2 года назад
This might be one of the better vet 30 sounds I’ve heard. Killer demo.
@Straightedge63
@Straightedge63 3 года назад
veteran for sure. also, love this idea, would be great to see more speaker comparisons like this!
@TheAxe4Ever
@TheAxe4Ever 3 года назад
Yes! This is what I’ve been waiting for. Speaker shootouts. Each of the speakers has its strong points. Put one of each in a 212 cabinet or 2 of each in an X pattern in a 4x12 and you’ve got it all covered! You proved that rather well at the end.
@codysroom6303
@codysroom6303 3 года назад
Everytime i hear those wearhouse speakers, they blow my mind. All of them. Ive got a mesa 2×12 with the mesa v30s and they are great. But everytime i hear the wearhouse's they all sound so full and just so killer. Id really like to have a cab loaded with those.
@gbirdo4718
@gbirdo4718 3 года назад
My boy Kyle saving e standard
@mattvdh
@mattvdh 3 года назад
Thr heaviness is in the amp tone and riffs
@TravisHY
@TravisHY 2 года назад
Refused Saved E Standard
@markusaurelius777
@markusaurelius777 Месяц назад
E flat is better IMO.
@dennyclosser8456
@dennyclosser8456 Год назад
First time catching you, nice job brother. Definitely the veteran 30. Much fuller sound, much more articulate better voicing to my ears anyway. I’ve been looking for replacement speakers for a couple of my cabs and that help me make up my mind so I appreciate it
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz 2 года назад
Great demo of these speakers and they sound really awesome together because they blend so well and filling where each speaker lacks. Excellent sound here.
@rickmorse9884
@rickmorse9884 2 года назад
Good honest review ... very thorough. I built a 2x12 with a couple WGS speakers (Veteran 30 + ET65) and it suits my ears perfectly. Using a H&K Tubemeister Deluxe 20 head.
@ScottFuckinRitchie
@ScottFuckinRitchie 2 года назад
I was looking at the et65 or green beret, but ended up getting the reaper Hp to pair with my veteran 30 in the 212 cab I built as well! It’s very full sounding. I’ve been shooting that combination with every other speaker combination I have, (vintage 30, Marshall g12t75 from early 90’s, and China g12t75) and it’s the best combo. Veteran 30 sounds good with the Marshall t75 as well. They compliment each other, especially in a recording mix.
@RCGreven
@RCGreven 3 года назад
The WGS sounds great. Fuller and less harsh.
@bciecko1
@bciecko1 2 года назад
Room mic was a huge help. Warehouse sounded way more articulate with the room mic.
@SeabassIbarra
@SeabassIbarra 3 года назад
I think the Veteran 30 sound better to my ears, since I'm considering building or buying a speaker cabinet to plug into my computer's guitar amp simulator software.
@silverjaw138
@silverjaw138 2 года назад
They both sound good. They are different. The Vetern is a bit more rounded, a touch fuller, but still aggressive. They were neck and neck until you used the room mic and I think the Veteran sounded better. I like the palm mutes more with the vetern 30 overall. Very musical.
@fmfsupaman
@fmfsupaman 7 месяцев назад
When the cabs were blended, that's when magic happened. Those two speakers actually really compliment each other.
@tayinrivera886
@tayinrivera886 2 года назад
I love the chord sounds and dissonance from the veteran, might switch my current speaker for it
@nafis6668
@nafis6668 Год назад
Definitely sounds more musical
@zachb5803
@zachb5803 2 года назад
Veteran vs Mesa voiced V-30 is the better comparison in this video the Veteran is the clear winner
@AngryTonesRiffClips
@AngryTonesRiffClips 3 года назад
V30 All Day. Veteran sounds great but a lot warmer and kinda and not as sharp in the midrange I gotta have that snarl and bite. Great video Kyle.
@Bognerman14
@Bognerman14 3 года назад
Thanks man, I just love the punch, girth, complexity, clarity, and depth of the V30.
@brandonbryson3317
@brandonbryson3317 3 года назад
Veteran sounds darker and more muffled. I’ll take the V30 every time.
@emoboi311
@emoboi311 3 года назад
I have the veteran 30, it doesn’t sound this muffled. This mark just doesn’t know how to EQ his amp. Besides he’s playing with a shitty amp to begin with.
@silverjaw138
@silverjaw138 2 года назад
The veteran is warmer and fuller. Muffled isn’t in there in either speaker.
@loneponderer495
@loneponderer495 2 года назад
Using some good quality headphones and neither sound muffled at all. If judging sound it's best to use headphones or at least some better home theater sound.
@Mark70609
@Mark70609 2 года назад
I think that is only true in the highest gain situation, other than that the WGS is the bigger sounding speaker.
@swampman543211
@swampman543211 2 года назад
@@emoboi311 its a 5150 stealth. How is that a shitty amp
@lowqualityguitarvideos
@lowqualityguitarvideos 3 года назад
I have two 212 cabs, one with V30s and one with Veteran 30s. They work well together and depending on how much mids my amp has, sometimes that affects which speaker sounds better. But either works great.
@jaykafcas4342
@jaykafcas4342 3 года назад
YES!!! It's the relation between the 3.. Awesome man. You can't just expect EVH speakers and suddenly you're "erupting". Work that shit in until it's good enough. Cheers!
@Wheresthepepsibismol
@Wheresthepepsibismol 3 года назад
As a Thrash Metal guitarist who scoops mids I prefer the veteran 30 because it almost sounds ride the lightning like to me.
@AdamYoudell
@AdamYoudell 2 года назад
That Veteran sounds fabulous, SLAYS the Celestion
@jeffbarger6190
@jeffbarger6190 2 года назад
Great Video!! I've got some v30's that I use in the studio...love them. I'm very interested these Warehouse speakers now....nice full tone. I ordered one...can't wait to see how it thickens the mix.
@tommilitello198
@tommilitello198 3 года назад
Guitar gear is getting to the point where it’s not a matter of which one is better it’s more along the line of which one do you prefer,great time to be a guitar player,although the amount of gear actually makes it harder
@belligerentamateur
@belligerentamateur 3 года назад
Couldn't agree more!
@raulsanchez6437
@raulsanchez6437 10 месяцев назад
V30 and Creamback 75H in my 2x12 setup. Well balanced
@gabe70hb
@gabe70hb 3 года назад
Veteran 30 sounded close to a Mesa MC-90 to my ears
@cajun3197
@cajun3197 2 года назад
I have a v30 and an eminence Texas heat in my 212 currently and I think they compliment well as you have said this amp is a little on the bright side and having 2 mics you can really get a nice balanced blend
@eulldog
@eulldog Год назад
Excellent comparison! One factor that might change things is the cab placement - against the wall and one cab having a heavy amp on top.
@belligerentamateur
@belligerentamateur Год назад
For sure, going to do these intros differently moving forward
@mikedervos5974
@mikedervos5974 3 года назад
omg !! both speakers together sounds freaking massive! i will definitely will like to try those speakers together on one 2x12 cab ! will sound awesome
@matttaylor1449
@matttaylor1449 3 года назад
When he played them together I don't think it was volume compensated. If so, then your ears will be falling for the old, louder is better trick, without really knowing the true comparison.
@mikedervos5974
@mikedervos5974 3 года назад
@@matttaylor1449 its not the volume I don't mean that,i mean the low end is more and the highs of the vintage 30 balance well with the other speaker , sounds tighter and with more clarity as well, both speakers together is the best of the both worlds i think
@fjk1138
@fjk1138 2 года назад
Nice comparison video. To me, The WGS sounds wider. Reminds me of the Mesa Black Shadow C90 speaker, which has the same overtone to it vs a V30.
@wtfever2474
@wtfever2474 3 года назад
I'm with @TheAxe4ever on this one. I think they compliment each other well while still retaining the same basic flavor. It's like a shot of Goldschlagger & Hot Damn mixed together if you will... Different, but complimentary to each other.
@barryprosser1370
@barryprosser1370 3 года назад
Kyle your humor is always spot on man \m/
@BazonBlades
@BazonBlades 3 года назад
The Veteran 30 sounds like it has a blanket over it. Vintage 30's are so popular for a reason. The guitar is a mid-range instrument and cuts through a live mix like a knife when run through Vintage 30's. The Veteran 30 may sound more "pleasant" in room but probably will not cut through a mix as well. The easier solution for the upper mid spike of Vintage 30's is an EQ pedal.
@mhoff7722
@mhoff7722 9 месяцев назад
Nice job! Like every other speaker demo I love the sound of combining both lol. Each one seems to fill any gaps the other might have. 🤘🤘🤘
@SonicSoundofDoom
@SonicSoundofDoom 2 года назад
Love both speakers. I’ve got a 4x12 with 2 V30’s and 2 WGS ET-65’s in an X pattern and it sounds so good. I’m about to take the uk v30’s out of my Mesa and do the same! Except.. going to use Vet30’s w/ ET-65’s
@terran236
@terran236 3 месяца назад
the veteran 30s seem to have the mids a bit tamed and that low low end "boom" from the vintage 30s is a little boosted on the veterans.
@ajmathison8561
@ajmathison8561 7 месяцев назад
Wow I caught myself fully loving the vet 30 more! Going to buy one now
@michaelbarber590
@michaelbarber590 3 года назад
WGS ET65's were an improvement over the V30's in my Carvin Belair 212. I also replaced the V30's in my 4X12 Avatar cab with Jensen Electric Lightning speakers about 10 years ago and noticed a big improvement with those as well.
@rk28984
@rk28984 2 года назад
The Electric Lighnings are awesome speakers, very underrated!
@jaredt3985
@jaredt3985 Год назад
Purely on its own I’d take the Veteran 30 all day. Smoother, fuller, less compressed to my ears. However, in a band setting the V30 is really hard to beat. I have a cab at home loaded with V30’s purely for playing live, it just takes hardly any eq to cut through. But when I’m playing at home I never use that cab, it’s just too spikey and harsh. For home playing I really like the Eminence dv-77’s. They’re amazing speakers.
@markk9184
@markk9184 3 года назад
Yay! need more speaker shootouts! On my end they sound pretty damn similar, I'm 60 years old so maybe that's why. I'm pretty much a v30 guy but the warehouse sounds pretty damn good!
@rphoenix5908
@rphoenix5908 2 года назад
If I can only choose one, I'd have to give it to the Vintage 30, but my favorite is the blend. When the guitar is by itself I actually prefer the fuller, less spiked sound of the Veteran 30 overall, although the Veteran 30 still sounds good. But once you get in a mix or play live the Vintage 30 is going to cut through better because of that spike and the strong upper-mid presence it produces. But I think the blend of both works so well because they are similar enough not to clash in the shared frequencies but the differences they do have are complimentary and even out with each other.
@nvn25
@nvn25 2 года назад
Great video presentation! Thanks for sharing. Surprised that I ended up liking both! They are so different that there is a use for each on a given place or night or recording.
@NosceTe
@NosceTe 9 месяцев назад
That room mic really props up WGS but sm57+V30's is the classic killer combo.
@777666hxc
@777666hxc 2 года назад
This is a great comparison! I love my veteran 30’s in my 2x12 Revv cab! Sick video too, listen with headphones, this was awesome !
@ramilrodriguez8340
@ramilrodriguez8340 2 года назад
I would like to see a section on every speaker comparison where the person eg the amp to his or her prefered sound on each speaker. We always hear an A/B swap with the amp set the same. Well that helps to hear the difference between them but not the potencial of them and it might favor one speaker and I guess the one used to dial the amp to start with. I dial the amp different for different speakers and it’s not until I dial it for each speaker that I’m able to choose a preferred one.
@belligerentamateur
@belligerentamateur 2 года назад
Going to incude this on future videos, for sure. I asked a few people how to dial in these videos better, and that was their main suggestion.
@ramilrodriguez8340
@ramilrodriguez8340 2 года назад
@@belligerentamateur your demo was good. What I told you happens on almost every speaker comparison I see. So don’t feel bad about it. 😁😁 Keep doing good stuff.
@asnark7115
@asnark7115 Год назад
There's something good to be said about the way the Celestion V30 sounds through the room mic.
@GlorifyGodInEverything
@GlorifyGodInEverything 2 года назад
I use a tube combo amp and would really like both of these speakers but because it's a 1x12, I went with the fuller sound of the Veteran, I feel the distortion on the veteran is almost like you somehow obtained more gain and a bit less bottom end which is nice for not boosting through walls at night on lower sound levels, plus it sounds, or I believe it has more of a snarl to it than the vintage. If the veteran wasn't a choice, 100% I would have a vintage.
@jacak47410
@jacak47410 2 года назад
Dude those retro 30s sound like they would be insane through my rockerverb
@bardicdad
@bardicdad 6 месяцев назад
v30 good, Warehouse throws a whole lotta rosie in the mix
@nickharper8145
@nickharper8145 Год назад
Awesome video, I love speaker shootouts like this. Maybe you can do some more? If you want another v30 like speaker I cannot recommend the Eminence CV-75 enough. \m/
@levanchikvaidze3519
@levanchikvaidze3519 3 года назад
Awesome format, Kyle! Really like it!
@triumph9044
@triumph9044 2 года назад
Personal preference, I like the Veteran 30 better. Now that said they both are killer speakers.
@chronik301
@chronik301 3 года назад
I use to use x pattern with these two speakers in my mesa recto 4x12 and they worked very well together in the same cabinet.
@mikehasty9536
@mikehasty9536 3 года назад
Veteran 30 all day for me in this comparison. Sounds way more like how you'd want your tone in a mix.
@Mark70609
@Mark70609 2 года назад
The veteran 30 sounds better though. The bottom isn’t there with the V30. The highest gain situation is where the V30 sounds best.
@cutoffguitar
@cutoffguitar 3 года назад
The WGS ones sounded better imo, more focused and smooth.
@MetalheadOv666
@MetalheadOv666 Год назад
Great video comparison! I have a 212 with 2 v30s and another with a vet30 and reaper HP. Definitely going to swap on of the v30s for the vet30 and see how I like it. Maybe the v30 will sound better with the Reaper.
@abuzafeera
@abuzafeera Год назад
I like the veteran 30, sounds like g12t and g12h anniversary that I combined on my 2x12 cab.
@mattvdh
@mattvdh 3 года назад
Greenbacks vs v30s next please, or blackbacks
@randomguy9635
@randomguy9635 3 года назад
My favorite was when you used them both together.
@kristopherwick3408
@kristopherwick3408 Год назад
Great demo man! Exactly what I was looking for. Thinking of putting 2 in my Orange HP8 4x12 that's loaded with k100s. Do an X pattern.
@belligerentamateur
@belligerentamateur Год назад
Happy it helped!
@garethsmith300
@garethsmith300 3 года назад
Would love to hear the V30 against the DV77 if you can get your hands on some!
@FulcrumsEdge
@FulcrumsEdge 3 года назад
I definitely like the Veteran 30, as much as the Vintage 30 depending on the amp used or how it's dialed in, however, I like the WGS Retro 30 even more than the Vintage 30 and the Veteran 30. What WGS labels as an update and higher power handling Veteran. I dunno, but I likeit more than both of em, the way I dial in my amps.
@Spacemonster2024
@Spacemonster2024 3 года назад
I was never aware of "Veteran 30's" I'll have to look them up.
@resington
@resington 3 года назад
V30 for me. I'm a simple man and it just does metal better than anything. In the room and miced up. The veteran is nice though, creamback ish I'd say.
@skylersample5356
@skylersample5356 2 года назад
in a mix using the v 30s is going to save a lot of post eq because of the more mid focused sound. if you use the veteran 30s you will have to to more work cuttung the low end or your guitar sound will interfere with the bass and kick drums making your mix sound muddy.
@97warlock
@97warlock 2 года назад
Im at an easy point ...... I have a cabinet with shite speakers, so regardless of what I buy eminence,Warehouse or Celestions it will be a huge improvement .
@rendyandrian7149
@rendyandrian7149 3 года назад
Dialing bass mid treble to 6 6 6 before playing hi gain riff. I will try it next time and hope the power from the depth make my guitar sounds so angry. Another idea, I will dial in 9 9 9 before playing clean tone. So the higher power may bless my guitar. V30 is still like V30. Veteran 30 somewhat remind me of greenback. I like the combination of both. My guess is veteran 30 will sound good when combined with creamback H75.
@beanapalooza6614
@beanapalooza6614 Год назад
Dang Dude i hope youve gave that fretboard some love and lemon oil by now.... that thang is thirsty
@jketterman6054
@jketterman6054 2 года назад
To my ear, I hear the veteran 30 is more present with the lower mids. The v30 sounded a little more thin. I think i prefer veteran 30 more.
@rphoenix5908
@rphoenix5908 2 года назад
I think a 4x12 or vertical 2x12 with Vintage 30 on top and Veteran 30 on bottom would probably sound great... With half of each you will still have some of that Vintage 30 spike/presence but less than with a cab full of them, but by placing Vintage 30 on top then what spike/presence you do still have should still be able to project better. Likewise, you will end up with some of that fuller/darker sound of the Veteran 30s which should make the overall sound a bit fuller but not as dark as with just Veteran 30s, and since the Veteran 30s don't have that cutting presence then less is lost by having them on the bottom.
@Turbo-D
@Turbo-D 3 года назад
nice guitar! love schecter, got a huge collection of this guitars. when i play a similar setup i use a modified marshall box with v30/gt75 and love this compination, perfect for the peavey!
@jrlee243
@jrlee243 3 года назад
To me I thought when you started of with the warehouse in the room mike test I didn't like the v30 as much. Like you said, changing speaker cabs , you almost need a min to recalibrate your ears. Same with I.R. scrolling through them quickly. ones I thought I liked no I didn't. So I have to spend a bit of time playing it to remind myself , oh that's why it's good. Just my two cents. Great job bro.
@1thess523
@1thess523 2 года назад
V30 👍, the veteran was a little too dark for me but maybe paired with a brighter speaker. I use a V30 & G12T-75 loaded 4x12
@belligerentamateur
@belligerentamateur 2 года назад
They pair nicely, for sure!
@agras7494
@agras7494 2 года назад
Veteran sound damn good.
@georgesilveira4936
@georgesilveira4936 2 года назад
Veteran all day long !!!!
@JB-dn9wv
@JB-dn9wv Год назад
I like them together
@Hamer95USA
@Hamer95USA 3 года назад
Hey Kyle! I liked the video comparison of the WGS Veteran 30 & Celestion Vintage 30 speakers. I'm a Vintage 30 kind of guy myself. Would you make comparing the Celestion Vintage 30 & Eminence Red Coat series Governor speaker? I think the Governor speaker is underrated and would like to hear a sonic comparison.
@lukebroste1182
@lukebroste1182 Год назад
Warehouse are my fave speakers
@KUTEY
@KUTEY 3 года назад
Nice format ! I really like this !
@BrandonBames
@BrandonBames 3 года назад
Killing it man! Great comparison video!
@christopherward4671
@christopherward4671 3 года назад
The combo was very very nice sounding.
@pwrmac7600
@pwrmac7600 3 года назад
Just out of curiosity, is this a standard celestion vintage 30? and was it UK made or Chinese? I have my Marshall loaded with Mesa Spec V30's because they are smoother than standard celestion V30's.
@mikedenkinger9570
@mikedenkinger9570 3 года назад
I know several other Marshall owners that do this too.
@malevolentsound
@malevolentsound 3 года назад
Low gain and high gain: v30 Midgain: veteran. Just with those settings though obviously. Both together seemed to cover full frequency spectrum of mids
@soradical16
@soradical16 3 года назад
Great comparison, Kyle. Do you have the WGS ET65 by any chance? Really interested in that speaker
@TheKLeifheit13
@TheKLeifheit13 3 года назад
Gotta give the V30 the nod in this one, the Veteran seems to have a presence spike that doesn't do it for me. V30 is tighter and has more punch to my ears as well. I haven't really seen a demo of a WGS speaker that blows me away yet. When they were stupid cheap they definitely made sense, but now that they're within 5-10% of Celestion and more expensive than Eminence it's a struggle.
@Nghilifa
@Nghilifa 3 года назад
Listening through the room mike, the V30s sound much better. The WGS speaker ain't bad tho!
@chrisleguen2813
@chrisleguen2813 3 года назад
I prefer the V30's, I have a pair of V30's combined with a pair of eminence screaming eagle's in a framus dragon cab and it's a weapon 🤘
@Producer_Jeff
@Producer_Jeff Год назад
What year is the vintage 30? There seems to be a big discrepancy between the early 00’s and mid 00’s speakers. Evidently the early 00’s ones aren’t nearly as harsh and are a lot more smooth sounding. Also, the new ones (2021 or later I think) tend to sound very similar to the early 00’s ones
@JMorg2116
@JMorg2116 Год назад
More of these vids!
@Joey_Tatts_Palmer
@Joey_Tatts_Palmer Год назад
Not sure if anyone asked but what version of v30 did you use, Chinese or UK? Just curious. Great video, you should do more speaker and cab videos as they really affect your tone. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
@nvn25
@nvn25 2 года назад
Together sounds amazing!
@gbirdo4718
@gbirdo4718 3 года назад
I’d like to to see you sweep the resonance while chugging the E to see the low end response. I like to run the resonance on mine quite high.
@dougcarr7086
@dougcarr7086 3 года назад
V30 for me.
@onevoiceinc
@onevoiceinc Год назад
Veteran 30. That's definitely what I'm after.
@idanramos1942
@idanramos1942 3 года назад
Would you recommend to upgrade the stock G12H on those cabs? V30 vs G12H what are your thoughts?
@kevinfeatherstone6062
@kevinfeatherstone6062 3 года назад
good stuff. how easy was it to swap out old speakers for the veterans? I love to hear both of these in a mix switched backed in forth to see which cuts through/sits better.
@aheadofmetal
@aheadofmetal Год назад
Its easy. 10 minute job max. I have some demos on my channel as well. Havent tried warehouse yet though
@jaychen2000metal
@jaychen2000metal Год назад
I think the Retro 30 is more similar to the V30 from what i can tell
@DeathPandaDanceParty
@DeathPandaDanceParty 3 года назад
Try a WGS Reaper HP (High Powered 50 watts) and Invader 50 combination.
@danielgoepferich9548
@danielgoepferich9548 3 года назад
A V30 vs carvin Gt12 comparison would be cool.
@williamdesilva67
@williamdesilva67 3 года назад
I dono if it's RU-vid compressing the hell out of this but it sounds like u need to turn the bass up.. everything just sounds super trebley
@jaychen2000metal
@jaychen2000metal 3 года назад
Got the wrong one, dude. The 30 watt Reaper is amazing. They'll never come out of my 4X12.
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