Warframe: Huge CHANGES On The Way - Damage Reworks 

“Next time…” ~ Caliban

The game keeps getting better and better. Pablo has really has done a great job so far.

Part of me hopes the reason caliban hasn’t had any news(or even augments) is because they’re doing a massive change to him that augs are better done after. A bit of wishful thinking yes, but I hope I’m right

That's why Caliban can summon Sentient friends. He's lonely. I'm not sure yet how to feel about the changes. At least until I get to try it out myself. That cold damage buff though... *looks at Shivering Contagion*

Chocolate milk grabbed. Yep. That's me. I don't bother changing my builds for anything

Here's a better solution for DE to sort Nullifier Bubbles: Get rid of Nullifier units... The reason Nullifier units became a thing was because none of the enemy types could counter Warframe abilities, now that Eximus units of literally every faction can do that, Nullifiers just exist to make CC Warframes useless... edit: Also bring back Blast knocking down enemies...

I remember people doubting my Frost then I carried them through Steel path Circuit up to 24 rounds. Surprised they stayed that long tbh. And now he's going to be even better

The main problem with Corpus is the fact that Toxin trivializes them. Magnetic can get as good as it can get, as long as Toxin deals damage through shields, it won't matter. EDIT: I should add that armored enemies who have shields would probably make them a little harder to take down. Robotics were sort of resilient to Toxin, but that's not saying much; they still died incredibly quick with Toxin damage. My idea of a fix to that would be to give Shield Ospreys some kind of Toxin damage immunity so that you have to kill the Ospreys first to deal Toxin damage through the shields.

1:00 "That'll do" is fully what 99% of us do. Go Corrosive for grineer back then. I so don't care I usually go for viral + rad and if possible heat (with the new radiation mod it's easy). Their idea to streamline the whole thing is super good. It's what We all do anyway xD. Cold status being boosted is a + for me, as a Frost/Gauss main.

Frost's current state in the game gives me such mixed feelings. I'm happy he keeps getting indirectly buffed, far beyond the point where I'd say he's in dire need of a look before other priorities (like you know who of course: Equinox! Oh and Caliban too. And Nyx. And Loki....Oberon could use some help...etc), but GOD do I hate how much he's propped up by two augments that really should be made baseline already with two useless abilities and an incredibly niche third that might as well be effectively useless if not actively detrimental in most situations.

Doesn’t matter what they do. I’ll still never change my build for different enemies.

The real problem with magnetic is the overlap of toxin and magnetic's use cases. Magnetic can only be combined with heat or toxin (with exceptions...), and DE made the decision long ago to only release very few primed damage type mod(s) per weapon class. If you use the primed mods, you can basically only have magnetic and heat on one class of weapon (secondary), and all other builds involving magnetic are either heavily unbalanced (combining nerf shield with bypass shield) or leaving damage on the table. The solution here is to make magnetic/toxin actually useful. Either focus on making magnetic useful against non-shielded enemies (additional effects like grouping, weapon jamming...) or make magnetic actually matter in the overlap with toxin (toxin procs make a percentage all damage bypass shields, so our damage is more focused on one health pool).

Frost augment + cold buffs + tenet glaxion = Ice age meta

This overhaul is needed. Especially after founding out that even if you strip armor didn’t quite work like intended on certain mobs.

Me - My most used secondary is the Stug. I can't wait for the Kuva Stug. DE - We're happy to announce the Kuva Sobek. Also me - I f***ing hate it here....

I’m already running shivering contagion corrosive cold (it’s extremely good for damage and cc for overguard already), and these changes are just gonna make it even more hilarious 😂

Awesome video dude! Crisp an clear explanations. Really nice text synthesis ability!

i found it strange that pablo said that they dont tuch viral but armor cap and 50% armor strip from heat is buff to viral (because we would use corro over viral if enemy armor is massive)

The cold changes are about tb buff Gotva Prime to ludicrous levels.

LMAOOO. I love how you threw shade at Caliban while praising Frost. Great work with the intro, Tater. Thank you for the short but informative video. 😃

you know it's crazy. i was using my sibear the last time i was online doing the incarnon stuff for it and i was thinking to myself, what if this weapon's cold damage actually did stuff. pablo must have heard me.

Thanks so much for the quick rundown on damage changes!

It was fun being part of the Caliban sad train during the Twitch stream lol Cold was good but now could be meta with the changes. I wonder if it’ll be a new side effect for Blast damage since the status is 100% useless. I do watch MrWarframeGuy, so I do know how strong gas can be 😂 It’ll be nice having armor strip as a choice over it being mandatory. It’s also nice that they’re finally reducing enemy health/shield types down since I never tried to memorize that chart and have builds for everything.

100% honesty: I have more or less single multi-purpose builds for almost everything that works well enough for almost all content. Only with the newest expansion have I even bothered slotting for Murmur damage, and thats the only faction I adjust my builds for.

With the Armor Changes, Gas would shine again

If they are going to be encouraging us to have more status types on our weapons, can they remove Cold being all alone in the D polarity slot and put it with the other elements.

the way ive personally seen the different faction hp pool and their specific reduction was infested 200% hp pools, corpus 100% hp and 100% shield and finally grineer of 100% hp and armor to make that hp more on "equal" playing field. the biggest issue ive always had with grinner was the fact the armor values scaled increasingly with lvl, them just leaving it at a flat amount IE 300 armor on a elite lance would always make it 50% reduction getting that "200%" range and 10 corrosive stacks would increase the dmg by 1.8x roughly with this example. now they are basicly doing this

I hope this will help to reduce the over reliance on overguard that has creeped into the game lately; you either run a frame that has an overguard ability, or you have to brute force a healing setup in to stand a chance

I have two color-coded load outs for factions (grineer, corpus, infested) plus some other niche builds for spy and such. I was surprised to hear Pablo say during the stream that people are just building viral for Grineer and taking it against everything. I guess I'm old school for using toxic against corpus lol

An upgrade to blast damage sounds awesome. also these changes mean it could actually be useful to mod your weapons with different damage instead of only having to use 1 weapon for everything, i always felt that 2 of your equiped weapons are for decoration when you only need your main weapon (the only exeption being the sentients and exploder orbs)

I do tend to mod for factions. Sometimes I even use bane mods! I have some mixed feelings about all this. I can see the potential, and depending on how the rebalance the health amounts there might not be too much of an overall change in the basic feel, but I kind of like some of the in-faction differences (like the Grineer "elites" and their Alloy armour vs the squishier Ferrite). They're probably also going to need to look at Toxic if they want shields to matter, so I'm a little worried about that.

I glad they let the younger tennos know what elements to bring in missions

I just gor viral always everywhere. sometimes add heat, maybe even radiaton for up to 3 different elements. when nourish, someimes change viral for corrosive

"Magnetic can disable nullfier bubbles with 1 proc" and "magnetic can disable or greatly reduce the effectiveness of Eximus units" are the 2 best ways to bring magnetic up to par with Viral/Slash/Corrosive/Heat and in the cases of late game mod collections Electric and Gas I think some balanceing like "nullifier bubbles instantly start regrowing at a fixed rate" to make them significantly less annoying for slower fire rate weapons vut that you still need to focus the enemy to permanently delete the bubble "Disable eximus effects" would be for targets you have put magnetic on that a Support Eximus, e.g. guardian, would then try to buff "Greatly Reduce Eximus effects" would be for direct harm Eximus units, say removing knockback or limiting the range of the hot bois or toxic eximus of the infested

Gas/Electricity were my go to damage for crowds for everything. Looking forward to the new changes. Hoping blast will no longer suck.

I dont usually mod for specific flesh but i am willing to try the new bladt and cold as it would be great if shivering contagion got better and the orange rock candy got more useful

Are used to use elemental ward a lot more on some Warf frames, but it’s been so long. Does it stack cold to max?

I use to build for factions. Now the closest I get is a faction mod.

i personally like the various resistances for every faction and would like to see more enemy types used in main missiions like the amalgams as eximus units. but i do get that this change will reduce scripting load which i feel is the true aim here. make mobile play less crashy

normally one size fits all but if im having trouble i switch it up

Viral, corrosive cold builds here we come! Think about it, no need for mag, since cold will proc slow and negate their shield charge, the corrosive will go right into any remaining armor, viral eats the rest. I already build for this so now its gonna wreck even better

What color are the Sanctum glyph things linked too? Mine show up as bright white. Tater's look orange

Honestly the only goofy stuff I leaned into faction building for is the ridiculous deep archimedia Necramechs. Without a ton of rad damage they're incredibly resilient due to armor strip immunity and status effects capping at 4 stacks. Will be curious to see how they end up, but I'm *really* looking forward to the armor changes, should make some of the archimedia stuff a little more enjoyable, might actually be a point to trying out some of the limitations rather than just pairing with 2 friends to carry you and then switching.

Mag main! Let's go!!

_Just in time for Frost Umbra~_

I can't wait for these changes!! All stated changes are good for hyldryn!

I think if they make blast do like some sort of AoE that'd make single target weapons more viable. Maybe # of procs = range of AoE on enemy death? Sm like that

Damage Types - Well, most people ignored it before. Not sure it’ll change as they seem to be reducing the resistance and bonuses to single increments anyhow. Armour - I get where they’re going with it. And variety in tactics is a nice goal. This kind of only barely affects the upper end of normal gameplay though. Mostly coming up in the endurance niche. Unless their intent is to continue upping levels for the least interesting “difficulty” boost. Blast- Can’t comment obviously. Cold - Cold is already quite powerful. The biggest “problem” cold has is that most people build Viral and thereby can’t use it. Gas - We’ll see. Gas isn’t bad, but also suffers that you can’t use Viral, Corrosive, Toxin, or Heat with it without juggling. And requires grouping tech and enemy density to its full effect. Magnetic - That needle won’t move as long as Toxic damage bypasses shields. More benefits against a mechanic you can bypass entirely with identical modding style just makes it hard inferior. Caliban and Frost kind of do the same thing, AoE defence strip, crowd control and damage vulnerability. If Frost is an A, Caliban is a solid B+ behind him, mostly because Frost can affect OG units via his cold procs. With Caliban pros over Frost in buffing non crit and his defence strip being an area persistent effect.

I never build against resistances. I focus on what status effects I want to see in combat... which sadly, typically is radiation or viral or fire yeah. But I REALLY want to use cold damage after this rework, and I'm excited to see what blast becomes, and corrosive actually sounds useful now!

ya know when you said status changes, I was like "is viral gonna get nerfed?" Odd that it didn't imo, but this could work. Espically the armor changes. I main harrow at this point and the only way I strip is via Operator....that's annoying when going against grinner.

Radioactive and gass only do to no shield or armor will help you.

Me sitting n questions to get ready of my magnetic kuva zarr

This is why I always use Hydroid for my kuva weapons. That way I can do Magnetic + viral/corrosive + heat. Nowadays my felarx can handle everything. Even Akarius prime works wonders.

Hey! Do you think you will do a frost build video? I love the frame but have no idea wtf to do with him

I only worry about health types when I’m doing Index or big boss fights like Eidolons.

The return of the Tenno space program would be nice, but personally I would like to see the new Blast status be more like actual explosive ammo, like what the Thunderbolt Mod does for arrows but better.

I'm so stoked for the armor changes

Caliban is good, I have no issues with his kit save for the spin to lose first ability. NYX needs a rework far more than any other Warframe, her Absorb ability has been broken for many years now. Her armor strip is inferior to Caliban's and can't even be targeted properly, while her 3rd ability doesn't even stop enemy AI from pairing with Interception nodes. Revenant and Nekros both have better puppet abilities than Nyx, that's just sad. She's supposed to be the most powerful telepathic warframe, right?

Been waiting for a good change to statuses course it’s all to damn confusing

Im totally cool with them streamlining health types. I can play with ao many different builds this way. ☺️

"Teno space program, da" I totally imagine a grineer saying this.

I'm interested at the change ideas but I do like the different special mob types being different. It gave a pretty cool unique feel to those mob types. Would love to see how they plan to work that into the new change idea. Also blast type is dead to me unless they bring back the Sonicor: Tenno Space Program. Still annoyed they made a fixed to blast and it had a unintended change to Sonicor, they then reverted the change for the Sonicor due to community dislike to only silently nerf it after the conversation died months later and ignored anything about it since.

I mostly use heat inherent because I think it's a fun unintentional mechanic

I just hope they add the option to make loadout slots be the default for corpus/grineer/infested, otherwise I'm just going to fall back into having a single build for everything

i hope is not end like they remove armor hp and shilds have they own weaknes and it end up just flat 2 weaknes perk fraction.

I really want the Jade Light Eximus to be an Instant Death ability. Similar to a Leech Eximus where you can visually see the timed cast on you and you have to get out of it before it goes off. Maybe something harder to dodge like maybe it locks on and you have to time a dodge roll at an exact moment or something

Viral + w/e fits in after that. 😎

I used to build for all 3 main factions, but heat is good for two of them, corrosive is good all around and viral is king. So i can usually hit enemies for one of their dmg type weakness

Supposedly Caliban is "Under the gaze of Pablo" so I hope that means he's being looked at with a rework or some tweaking which would explain why we didn't hear any talks about augments yesterday 🤔 maybe we might hear something at Tennocon like an announcement for the rework. But Caliban is starting to turn into Pre rework wukong for me where I loved Wukong even before his rework so let's hope whatever Pablo comes up with is gonna be cool and center around his Sentients and give them their own buffs and enemy debuffs

I never worried about it cause I just slapped on Viral Slash on everything or ability nuked. I had a newer to the game friend bitch about me for not memorizing certain enemy names and what's weak on them or not. He always asked me how the fuck do I play this game without knowing these things. I just told him damage go brrrrrrrr basically. I just bring Torid that's been set up with Corrosive/Radiation for Murmurs for every faction now since it's Torid and I'm lazy to switch gears. If I'm not using Torid, it's automatically Viral Slash on an OP weapon. I'm LR4 and the last thing I care about is weaknesses and what not when I do millions of damage regardless, oh no what would I do, my 5 million damage is only doing 4.5 million on the wrong enemy! Anyways...

I do not mod for anything just viral slash and sometimes radiation

Nice can't wait to finally change from my spore kitgun to something else

corpos shields should explode when they pop stunning and damaging surrounded enemies for a few seconds

Honestly speaking, am currently Mr 28 and have been playing since 2017. I always thought there were only 3 enemy health types and regardless my weapons were always running viral slash(and gas before that) until not too long ago😂😂😂😂. Like I'd heard about alloy armor and ferrite armor but always thought it was the same thing as regular armour

Me feeling like Calaban's only friend trying to theorycraft how to make him work (and work well). 👍

I've been playing for about 5 years and still have idea of what damage and enemy types do.

As a newbie, the changes all seem great and I'm glad DE are prepared to undertake changing such core systems in the game to make things more balanced and enjoyable. My one concern is that this will lead to people having to change up their build between every mission rather than simply playing the game. People already avoid faction mods for this reason. Sure, we can equip a primary and secondary for different reasons but what about frames who basically want to use exalted weapons all the time or onez who specialise in one element? It could all add up to more time in menus.

Maybe some day they'll address the desync issue that keeps locking me out of shooting, dodging, using abilities, and interacting with consoles and pickups anytime I use Transference

Omg... we are getting a new status effect

I used to mod for every health type back when corrosive was king.

didnt they add green archon shards so it can make corrosive feel more impactful? like you can full armor strip with corrosive with 2 green ones

i mean i've been using saryn and incatorid in almost everything with green jollyranches so never felt any armor

I wonder how the decreased inpact the initial armour will have on DR will affect OUR DR with the much lower armor we have.

Great things are coming but my #1 question is: Will we get Stalker outside Duviri? If Jade's the opposite of Stalker, then we should get both. As much as I'm excited about the ship skin, we should be getting more Stalker rewards since this is the Stalker quest.

"Am I relevant yet" - Caliban in 2077

If cold status freeze triggers biting frost then Frost with a tenet Glaxion is gonna be amazing.

Dammit I was hoping the Sobek would get an incarnon

I would love to see Blast procs work like this When an enemy dies with a blast proc, they will explode, with the radius and damage increasing with additional stacks. Furthermore, if the enemy gains an 11th blast proc, all blast procs on the enemy will be consumed and cause early detonation.

Im confused on the corrosive affect. Does that mean any corrisve weapons can armor strip. ?

blast status s changes are much needed

But why use magnetic, when you can use toxin and bypass the shields entirely.

they could have make corrosive and heat to strip the % DR instaed of % of flat armor value cant wait for my 10-12 statuses CEDO build

Man this is probably going to buff the Lenz, since it's both a bit of blast and cold. Being able to fully freeze enemies in its "bubble" and be more "blasty" at the same time. Would also be "cool" heh, if it was a Tenet weapon for shits and giggles. Even though it does have a prisma version, which is fairly newish?. Speaking of blast, this ought to affect Styanax's 4th, or maybe not who knows.

I'm just chuckling. I absolutely appreciate them trying to inject some sanity into their system this late in the game. That said, it's never really been a big issue for most because they don't tend to push the system to it's limits in terms of scaling. The majority of the time resistances are an all-or-nothing issue that rears its head if you don't have the right mod/weapon/frame combo. Genuinely curious to see how it pans out. Been playing so long even a slight change is going to be noticeable.

Caliban: “I do have friends! It’s just that… *sniff* they had work to deal with…”

This isn't an overhaul of the damage resistances. This is a reversion. They are taking the Damage 2.0 health/armour/shields and resistances, and reverting it back to a Damage 1.0 version. Corpus are easier to kill because of Toxin, not because they have too little shields also. All these changes are going to do is further incentivise using the already meta Damage types.

As a Saryn main this just makes the game even easyer for us so yay i guess

Not sure how I feel about getting rid of flesh types. It certainly is better for new players, to be one less thing to learn. But it also loses a lot of the sense of depth and individuality among enemies. I just don't want DE to streamline the personality out of the game, ya know?

Imagine if blast could take of parts of enemies like an arm or leg

I think they should be prioritizing other stuff dmg & armor system is weird but still also I hate to have to change weapon loadouts game needs a system that auto links a specific loadout to a faction when u enter a mission