Warhammer 40k, Adeptus Astartes vs Aeldari 2000 Point Battle, S02E04 - Our send off to 8th edition 

"...or marble racing" lolol

This channel has gotten me into 40k, but that marble racing comment is a stretch lol.

I agree, that was one of the best battles yet! Aside from fighting for the GREATER GOOD!! Shameless plug for Nick!

Marble racing is hard to beat

Ooooooooo' raaaaaangers!

"HERESY!"

Ouch that hurt lol

I haven’t played 40k since about 5th edition when, in my experience, Chaos was OP as hell. What makes them so bad nowadays? Use curious what’s changed

Speaking as someone who played as CSM for two years in 8th, you saw how Gulliman and the boys got upgrades and refills for days? If you were basic CSM you had to make due with basically the basic buffs only, with a limited Firstborn marine roster, and for basically until Psychic Awakening a limited stratagem pool and scrappy traits. What good stuff we had usually needed a good chunk of the list dedicated to it, like daemon engines and Obliterators. Hateful Volleys/Assault helped at least quite a way, and the upcoming two wound base buff for firstborn marines will help too stop the weapon rebalance and to a lesser degree the aura changes curbing some of the gulliman shenanigans

@@Metalmachine18 I think the problem is not that chaos is bad. It’s that everything else is getting much better. Im a recent player starting in 8th but a Doomsday Ark one shots most heavy units like Repulsors, Onager Dunecrawlers, Trygons, and much more! Also Chaos Space Marines and Chaos in general (except for nurgle) promote really high risk high reward gameplay. Which is fun I love that kind of game play, but unless you’re Khorne you don’t get the best melee units. Like against most armies oh boy in melee combat you will kick but, other armies like Tyranids and Orks do it better... Oh yeah and the whole Necrons have a antitank weapon that can one shot almost every vehicle in the game but is almost impossible to kill with anti tank weapons that only costs 193 points.

Awesome! We love that too!

I'm joining the "love the credits" club too. They're amazing!

Im jumping on this train too! Love it

@@PlayOnTabletop Yeah is there a link to maybe an Instagram Side for those Soul Drinker Models? I've really fallen in Love with them.

@@jekro1 Check us out on instagram and we have more stuff on there!

Thank you! We’ve enjoyed making them!

Im a big fan of your work as well mate, especially the importance of having breakfast in one of your latest pieces :) Keep on rockin it in the 'peg!

Eyyy it's my favorite Canadian

Quality ? I thought this was actual war footage!

You should do a collab with them and make terrain that they can play on

Simple, by playing other Space Marines.

dude that's BS.. I play Marines against lot of forces, got myself tabled by tyranids quite a few times. You can say I'm a shit player, but I'd argue my list is quite solid. I watch a lot of channels and see marines beaten time and again, by Crons, by Tyranids, Orks. Those aren't top tier armies.. Marines are a good army, but I'm tired of hearing the same old complaints every time they do well.

‘Dude’ it’s not. I’ve been playing this game for 30 years and marines have ALWAYS had an advantage. If your being tabled by nids regularly in any edition other than 5th........ Marines are the reason I have Minotaurs..... to kill other marines. Combat doctrines and primaris have only made them harder to kill in new editions.

@@jasonwarwick5062 are you kidding me? before the space marine codex vol2, they sucked. There where barely any stratagems you could use. Tau, Eldar wiped the floor with marines, there was no chance. If you brought marines. The opponent had to tailor the list to even give you a chance. Only viable'ish way to play was to run Ultramarines + Guilliman castle and/or very FW heavy. How about 7 th edition again their vehicles had no invuns or jink, they blew up left and right. Unlike battlesuits and wraith constructs or other hovercraft

@@peters6345 I think you'll find that nobody agrees with you. Space Marines dominate the competitive scene.

thanks mate!

@@jtmcdowell2331 that intro fucking rocked man

Yup it is!

I just imagine Sarpedon doing the crab rave dance

@@s.k.8139 the eldari are going extinct *dances*

@@ShaddySoldier Eldari is gone !

Yes he does!

Awesome!

Never too late to start!

@@nathanieleck1023 there are only so many kidneys you can sell to fund it : (

@@sweetmarshmallow7146 - I feel that so much 😞

@@sweetmarshmallow7146 8 billion ppl on earth man

Not actually Guilliman tho :v

@@quangnguyentrung647 - If it really was Guiliman, I’d say she was justified dumping him. He’d definitely have let himself go...

Yes we are going to keep that up! Makes us really look out for cool armies to have on the channel

Thank you!! We really appreciate that!

Thank you! We put a lot of energy into making the game interesting and engaging!

Thanks mate! Always a tough fight vs Jim Vesal, and always fun!

So far as we can tell, marines will have more CP to play with, and with the new action system, are more incentivized than ever to take those re roll characters that no other faction has. However, now the CP re roll no longer works on a lot of stuff, so space marines will probably be using more strategems than ever.

@@nathanieleck1023 the nerf to captains being limited to one per detachment will also limit how much cp marines will have. Normally, marines take 2 captains for hq choices but now its going to cost cp.

“You will not *believe* how cheap those Primaris were!” ‘...’ “I stole them!”

Could just be that primaris on the table top are closer to the size and effectiveness of actual marines in lore. And even then aren't strong enough lol

Cawl tends to do some shady stuff. Maybe he and the Chapter Master bonded over looking like a centipede and a spider.

I have a painted Soul Drinkers Army that is all Primaris. My headcanon is that the chapter was wiped out, Sarpedon went to the Warp, and the chapter was enshrined on the walls of the Phalanx. Cawl revived it for the Indomitus Crusade, and the chapter master is the only surviving Soul Drinker who was on the Deathwatch during the time of their conflict.

My custom made Sons of Echidna (Alpha legion) had data from heresy stolen from raven guard (Deliverance lost book), some info from Fabius Bile and some stolen plans from Cawl (acqured after some victories at games agains CSM and AdMech). Thus they were able to create their own breed of bigger meanier marines. And then they were able to secure some storages and forges on planet where our campaigns take place. On the other hand it would be easier to make a forgery of order from Cawl - with some free shipping :D

Yeah! I wanna see my sweet Guard Boys in action! ;)

I had Cattachan army some years ago,but got stolen. When I come back I'd like to play IG again.

There was a video with a guys custom imperial guard but their grotts

Funny enough... I heard that too... That's not what we meant lol but yes, Dark Eldar your pants would be really uncomfortable. So Spikey.

Glad you enjoyed it! We love doing the cinematics.

Working on it!! Haha I hope that I get that Victor T-Shirt soon! Commentary is a lot of fun! I think I'll give it a go again soon!

Nick was filming it :)

Hey u can make a reason why two imperium armys are going to battle like some dark angles are trying to keep an area of a random planet secret but a battalion of the adeptus mechanicus are doing research so the secretive dark angles are battling the nosey ad mech. Idk but its totaly do able with some creative lore reason

@@nice-um7fc Of course it is *possible* but if 7 out of 10 people showing up to an event play Space Marines, it's far less interesting, natural and narrative

I fought more Imperium forces with my Space Marines than anything else in about 10 years of hobby

@@nickkohlmann Any Adepta Sororitas ( Bolter Bitches) amongst them by any chance?

@@nickkohlmann It is pretty boring going against straight imperium. Fun to have more nids but when it comes to competitive stuff they arent that good. Same with dark eldar but we got new edition that will hopefully balance things out like that.

Well that’s fun to hear! I hope you enjoy the episode! Drop us a line if Facebook. You never know what could happen! :)

@@PlayOnTabletop I've just finished the episode and it was beautifully presented. I've watched all of your battle reports and they were honestly brilliant from the get-go but now your vids are incredibly refined. Great job! - I will absolutely drop you line :)

He is powerful but he's been nerfed a bit by both rules being downgraded and points being raised. He is still strong but he's not dominating like he was

@@jamesconner3056 and thank the ruinous powers for that

I mean, don’t get me wrong, he’s a very strong unit, but at over 300 points, he’s certainly a pricey character. There are much, much more cheesy units in the game of 40k, admittedly, most of them space marines. Guilliman is super strong, and is really, really hard to remove, but he doesn’t clear hordes, and isn’t super fast. He can decimate a battle line, but he’s no leviathan dreadnought.

You are welcome from Canada! Glad you enjoyed the shows

When we saw what Jim was painting up we had to ask him to be back on the channel with his Soul Drinkers

Glad you found one you loved!

He needed to die earlier so my ravager would live, and possibly yvraine. Still I think I could have had him...maybe...

@@PlayOnTabletop next time, Gadget!

Thank you!!

Thank you! Comments like these keep us going. We glad you like it.

JT does have a knack for the nebula paint job!

@@PlayOnTabletop Have you thought about doing tutorial videos? Maybe even on a separate channel if you wanted to keep this one battle report focused?

Building a soul drinkers army, thinking I'll play them as blood angels. People say that they should be Imperial Fist, but Soul Drinkers doctrine isn't seige. It's drop pods and getting within bad breath distance.

They do look fantastic, don't they!?

I hope you get a chance to. Glad your enjoying the videos!

Thank you!

Thank you!!

And you shall have more!