queen meave born around 100AD was another Woman clan leader . she lead the battle of the brown Bull . but because the only people who kept written records were the romans we may never know who she really was .the Irish didin't start writting until 200 years later . but Irish word of mouth is actualy very accurate .
In fairness though this was the 16th century, everybody knew what was expected of them. The irony is though is that women always worked, they worked in the fields taking in the crops alongside the men, they would make bread with a grindstone, the daily grind...... and they would make butter etc. It was far more a partnership between men and women back then than people have been led to believe.
Traditionally in Ireland women has the same rights as men, there were many female Druids, Brehon judges & chieftains. Grainne came from his ancient lineage. Of course Christianity hated this & did everything they could to reduces women's roles to domestic duties
Indeed my dear I was getting sick of this person talking like she knows and can't even pronounce our fair queens name! I'm from the west coast of Ireland there's 250 members of my clan and it was run by my grandmother. There is a tradition in the west of Ireland that the women are always more sensible than us gobshìtes xx
New atheist BS. Without the Catholic Church the Irish would not have survived centuries of war, disease and famine. The level of ignorance in your comments sums up why corporations now rule Ireland and that the Irish will disappear into minority status within a few more generations. All that suffering and rebellion to produce fools like you.
Thanks XenaChi and also to the crew. Its great to see these five documentaries about females in history concerning they are over-passed and often diminished in records and history, I often in the past have had to spend large amounts of time digging in books and websites to gain any insight into clear information. Seeing a well rounded perspective of strong willed woman in culture that doesn't paint a flat black and white construct of the female psyche in refreshing to say the least. A lot of hard-work went into these, I've also always wanted to see one of those stone volts demonstrated on camera without CGI input, the recoil of the strap is impressive. Cheers :)
that's great. this lady is remarkable. I happened to read about her yesterday and I instantly became an admirer. glad now Ireland is free from the english yoke, and that her bloodline survives to date. Hope her descendants would keep her name high. You should search for any old documents about her. I don't think whoever erased her name from history could have destroyed all the texts referring to her.
I’m hoping I’m related doesn’t matter how much though but even though your an O’Mailey it doesn’t mean you are related to her but I’m kinda thinking that you are just proud that your name means something
@Boat Race I'm from Ireland and have a BA in Irish history so this should be entertaining. So who exactly on your family tree is related to her? Is their surname O'Malley?
She did have a brother. His name was Donal. He was her half-brother, but the full-blooded son of her father. She came to save her haf-brother Donal by going personally to Queen Elizabeth the First to beg for his life.
"Boys, I remember one September Taking arms up to the crown Beaten up and broken down And the maid that Connaught gave us Who could save us from our shame Grace O'Malley was her name" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3uF76hF4rCU.html
Make way for Her Royale Highness, Ruler of the Irish coast, Pirate Queen, Grace O'Malley! I'm not Irish, but I'm gonna go to Rockfleet these holidays! Plus, SHE DISCOVERED LONG ISLAND FIRST! NOT ANYONE ELSE!
Dude, her pure blood line exists and I'm part of it. My family/ancestors came from county mayo and lived next to the burkes, grace o'malley did the same!
Lucas Wooley That doesn't mean shit. Having the same surname doesn't mean you're related. There are thousands of Murphy's for example. It means your ancestors came from the same Irish clan. And some clans encompassed thousands.
Grace and Queen Elizabeth did not like each other but they recognized the other's power. Both were strong and mighty women. They changed the course of time.
You know how I know that's bullshit? Because greatx15 would go way further back than the 16th century where she was from. There's also no possible way you could trace your greatx15 grandmother especially with the destruction of genealogical records in the four courts fire.
@@Stevenbfg Actually members of the standing council of Irish cheifs often have documents kept within the family proving their claims to Irish clan titles even to this day. Im sure the records pertaining to Grainnes son Tibbott na long De Bourke( Theobald of the Ships ) 1st Viscount Mayo and his airs are in good supply. Brian Borus descendants still hold a Castle today and head of the Clan is Connor O Brian prince of Thomond.
@@antseanbheanbocht4993 Tibbott descendants never went to America though. They were fairly rich and didn't flee during to famine. Some went to Spain after the 9 years war. You seriously believe all the yanks in the video talking bollox about "muh ancestor"? Some are claiming descent solely for having the surname O'Malley when her children took their fathers surname.
@@Stevenbfg Tibbot had eight children and Grainne had two boys when she married The O Flaherty whom she wed before she married Tibbotts father Risteárd an iarainn. It would be difficult to track them all I would think. I didnt make any suggestion about the veracity of the Original posters claim although without doubt many are fraudulent, i was merely pointing out that the tragedy or travesty of what happened in the National reords office might not affect the records pertaining to the household of such a prominent Gaelic family.
You're right, but so is she/he. Women were more free before the Catholic church came into the picture, but the women were still expected to do housework. Warrior women like Grace and Boudicca were a rarity, but just a welcomed one. A bit confusing, but it still true.
Oro, se do bheatha bhaile: the Jacobite version of 1746 refers to Bonnie Prince Charlie who landed in Scotland to claim the English throne, so while in Gaelic was 'generic British', not specifically Irish. Patrick Pearse wrote a version dedicated to Gráinne Mhaol, a purely Irish heroine (the lyrics sung to-day YT /watch?v=lkTxVqqf25A are not exactly Pearse's text).
I'm related to so many people in this comment section lol. I was born in County Mayo as Saoirse O'Malley. I married an O'Neal. Pretty much sums it up for ya right there.( My mother is a true O'Malley. Born with the last name going back generations and generations)
If her brother was musicly inclined that would explain why my grandpa's brother played Viola and I play violin..my grandfather is an O'Malley who's ancestry comes from country Mayo
Disdain? for women? i love women. All im saying is that women had a high level of freedom in Irish society it was the catholic church that messed things up. We had our own Irish christian church at that time which was a mixture of the old Gaelic customs and christianity. Divorce was allowed and in the Roman catholic church it obviously wasnt. And women could divorce of their own free will.
Very true, women did work our in the fields, but they didn't just let women participate in the warfare. I think that was the point the person you were arguing with before was trying to make.
Unfortunately that would more than likely be impossible man. Although it would be a great if you are but O'Malley clan was not a small clan haha :D Don't get me wrong you could be an O'Malley but not related to the Queen of Mayo. But that is cool man, You are still a bother and son of Eire :D and are welcome home anytime you wish :D I did see a program once that found out who Brian Boru living ancestors are today and its an old lady from Dublin. So therefore she is High queen of Eire haha :D
Women were not used as a form of currency. Yes, it is true that in their form of "nobility", they did the same as many other cultures and married women off to men, but they did that to both males and females. I do agree with the fact that women were expected to do housework and that they didn't have total freedom, however.
@TheFionuir Gaelic society was influenced by celtic culture and gaelic is a celtic language. although there were no documented invasions into Ireland by celts from the continent, the art, the tactics of war, the political order of society, the kings the druids, womens position in society, and how slaves were treated, all have a strong feckin comparison with the celtic culture ceaser came into contact with in france and britain.
You would not be a descendant of Grace O'Malley through the name O'Malley. Her daughter...upon marriage took another surname. Her son's carried the name of their own father.... O'Flaherty (1st husband of Grace) or Burke (2nd husband of Grace).
Grace was cool but I think it's making Ireland sound more backwards to make it sound like she was fighting the patriarchy or something. Women were equal in Ireland, there was even devorce
@bookkeeper57 actually the idea that women had total freedom in celtic society is a myth. women in leadership positions such as boudica and grace o malley were once in a lifetime exceptions. Celtic/irish society was very much male dominated and in ancient ireland female slaves were used as a form of currency. according to the romans "a celtic warrior decided if his wife and children could live or die" In ancient ireland women were expected to watch the kids and do chores mostly.
LOL for some strange reason I don't think he drank vodka LOL a bit after his time LOL Brian Boru was the high king and the only king to have ever united Ireland as one country all be it for not so long LOL As they say the luck of the Irish LOL
it was not unusual to have women warriors in Irish society..before this time. ,long time back, I think Cuculian was trained by a woman warrior, bu that was centuries before the the 16th century, I think Breton Laws were still around in the 1500s. A woman could marry and divorce a husband and retain their share of property / wealth,
Iron Cross I can promise you I live in Mayo, their old territory and her existence and bravery is well known. She got her name Mhaol because she shaved off her hair to become one among the men on her father’s vessel. Mhaol means bald in Irish
