I have a friend who used to do destructive testing of lithium batteries. One day she had one that did *not* blow up or light on fire. The engineers were _very_ interested in examining to figure out why it failed *safely* , but this was like examining a dud grenade to figure out why it hadn't gone off ..... _yet_ ...
Either way you can infact disarm that grenade ones the components are taken apart you can check all you like detonators still go "off" but it's not a grande in your face and there's tons of reasons why a lithium battery did not explode when subjected to violence
As a Chemical Engineer, allow me to explain the how and why of lithium ion battery failure. When Li batteries are subjected to a charge, the internal pressure of the battery exponentially increases due to the lithium ions' rampant activity inside the battery case...think alot of toddlers all gassed up on pure sugar then locked in a small room. Overcharging, excessive heat from any thermal source, or internal damage can cause an overpressure condition leading to battery case failure...translation - big boom!! As the Li battery charges or is subjected to heat, the negatively charge Li particles go racing about inside the chemical mixture. Once the pressure and/or heat reaches a titration point, dendrite lithium(lithium metal spikes) start to form and grow. If the dendrite lithium grows too much, the battery case will be punctured, resulting in explosive release of the pressure and heat. Again..big boom. If the battery case is punctured with the lithium ions even partly charged, the chemical mixture will react violently with atmospheric oxygen...as seen above. This is also why Li batteries continue to burn in the presence of water, with the H2O actually "feeding" the reaction, causing an exponential increase in thermal levels and activity. So...water make even bigger boom!! The chemical mixture of Li suspension compounds that a Li battery houses contains some extremely flammable component compounds...which again...feeds the fire. Li batteries aren't safe. Lithium is easily toxic. We need improved battery tech before EVs can be truly viable. Edit: My intent in this comment was to hopefully enlighten the average person, not to go into detail about lithium, lithium compounds, or to prove my level of education to anyone. I'm glad many of you have replied saying my comment and explanation in layman's terms helped you to understand Li batteries a little more. That was my intent in full.
Btw, China, the world's largest producer of Li batteries and mined lithium, loves the fact the US government is pushing EVs. Not only does thus create a monetary influx for China, now many US citizens drive vehicles containing an unstable bomb that can and will emit toxic gasses upon explosion, on top of the damage from the explosion. Li EV vehicles are a catastrophe waiting to happen.
I thought this was a practical example of the aftermath of a taco bell encounter after many beers. Thanks for clearing this up as both are seemingly identical to the nude eye.
Looks like you know your stuff. You'll fully understand how much waste ev are and how they just won't be a solution to the problem that doesn't need fixed.
I was outside, my wife who was sleeping said something is wrong with my phone as she came outside with her phone and it had a burn hole thur the middle of the phone. You could see thur it.
My iPhone cough fire last week while charging. Luckily it was not under my pillow like normal but on the stone counter while I cooked. I’m still freaking out over charging it outside of the sink because it is not been addressed by Apple yet. 😅🫣🫣😳
@@ST-IV_858 do NOT keep using your phone or recharge it if it already caught fire. Switch it off and keep it somewhere safe where it can’t burn your house down, like a metal tub far away from anything flammable
From time to time, a guy in my job charges his bike battery apart, inside the building, close to his plase. Protocol is: battery by the window, if it fumes just a litter it goes flying 3 stories down to a patio we have.
Hi, employee. Safety management here. The distance is to ensure the removal of self harm. But if you feel free to turn on the dump closer to the exploding battery. You will be drug tested. It sounds like you are being made fun of. But, it's your way if thinking that orevents you from promotions. Not people not liking you. It's the capabilities you've chosen.
@@Facefully. You don't seem to understand. That employee is reaching near and under the explosion to hit the safety switch. The switch needs to be futher away from the explosion so the human can move AWAY from danger, THEN hit the safety switch! Get it now??
We (not going to name my employer) use a belt mounted controller that includes a kill switch. Also a tether that connects to the test/assembly bed then to the operator; he/she falls or runs away it activates the kill switch. We also use a CO2 dump system and drop canopy alongside the coolant bath. Worst case scenario and the entire test station gets CO2 and Argon infused silicate dumped on it. Fortunately we've never had to activate any of them outside of testing the system.
Pretty good but the release/ stop should be in a better places that doesn’t require someone to bend over putting their face right towards the explosive burning battery pack.
Man you know you're old when you're upvoting a video game reference from two and a half decades ago that you think should be common knowledge for *everyone* and it's sitting here with 18 likes.
Met a woman in Uber and started talking to her about why I would never buy electric, because of fire. She then tells me that she wS in an accident with her electric car. The battery started on fire but doors would not open. Windows wouldn't roll down. She was about to die of smoke inhalation when dude broke her window and saved her. She pretty much confirmed what I was saying
Advice from an old windscreen fitter if that occurs: 1.put seat back 2.bring legs up to top corner of windscreen/windshield 3. Push hard with both feet/legs and the windscreen/windshield will pop out… think doing a reverse leg squat to safety
Terrifying that EVERYTHING is electric on cars now. My 2018 Volvo had a battery problem, and I could not open any of the doors or windows. Called the fire brigade to get me out. Drive my old Chevy C10 now, never getting in a modern car again...
Yall do realize that every electric vehicle has emergency door releases right? This surely shoes that yall know nothing about electric vehicles and should never own one
That alarm sound is the exact sound used on mine sites in Australia before a ball mill starts up. If you're inside a mill and hear that noise it'll be the last thing you ever hear
@@beyondthen4621 A big drum full of metal balls that rotates and crushes rocks into powder. It would have to be very big and have very big balls to be a threat to anyone.
I seriously thought no one else would recognize that alarm from their work too. My work used this alarm to make sure every worker was alert including drivers as the warehouse was extremely noisy. If an employee was to get stuck in a loading bay, and a driver was to be backing in, the person would be slowly crushed to death. This alarm will immediately warn of the impending danger while making sure everyone hears it. Safe to say this alarm has saved many lives…some unfortunately not.
We had 200+ fixtures in a production facility for automotive parts and each single one used this tone for ANY cycle fault. I still hear this noise in my sleep.
в России на днях представили технологию полного цикла переработки литий ионных батарей с восстановлением до технически чистого лития, пригодного для производства новых батарей. Это реально мегапрорыв в индустрии батарей, такого нет больше нигде. Мы сделаем литий ионные батареи и итий намного более безопасным для природы с помощью этой технологии
@knowplay3258 You are extremely intelligent, thank you for the explanation. I understood everything you said but I can't linguistically explain it like you. Thank you for this. You've educated a lot of folk, myself included. 👍🏼
What if I told you I was also a chemical engineer and what he said didn't make any sense. Lithium ions are not negatively charged, they are positively charged. This person is confused and may not even be a chemical engineer or even really educated in chemistry at all.
I took an old cellphone battery out to my driveway and cut the corner off. I got a similar reaction. Slower to start but the flame was white hot and as bright as the sun. Incredible.
@@jrgvsqzyou should get a 12” diameter steel pipe, weld it to a plate of steel so that one opening is capped off by the plate of steel, then wrap 1 lb of black powder and seal it off with electrical tape to prevent it from getting wet, then use about 100 ft of 16 gauge wire with steel pins in the ends to stab in to the wad of BP, connect those to an igniter, check the wad to make sure it’s still sealed, then dump in the tube with about a gallon of water and add a gallon of gasoline. Then you should activate the igniter and see what reaction it makes. Definitely stand 100ft away from it and run after it goes off
When you punch a hole in a cell battery, Potent electrolytes can leak through the hole, often creating chemical reactions that release heat. This heat can then damage other battery cells, creating a chain reaction of damage. This process is called thermal runaway. It's a self-reinforcing cycle that can lead to combustion events.
@@Jasper118idk if this is a lab (and if it were I would imagine this to be a very unsound and dangerous procedure that could easily be automated, so I think we agree) but lithium ion batteries are prone to thermal runaway which is always chaotic. On assembly lines, fire suppression systems like the one shown here are fairly common, all it takes is one short or bad cell and you have a massive problem in a building filled with batteries and there pre assembled components.
@@vonsteuben7517 I get that they’re a huge hazard, this to me looks like a test of the system (buildings/rooms where tests are conducted I would call labs, but that’s semantics). At any rate if you’re testing something like this you should probably find a better way to do it where the operator isn’t having to run away and duck back into frame to grab stuff
240V 13A domestic outlet will fry humans in seconds; these batteries take days to fully charge that way. There's a huge amount of energy stored in them.
That's not water btw, cuz water would make the lithium explode even worse.. just FYI :) ●Remember guys, dont ever throw any type of batteries in the garbage!!!! Esp wet! You might wake up to a burning home! Put them all in a ziplock or whatever bag somewhere safe/far from fire hazards and when theres a amount worth a short trip get rid of em in a battery waste bin in most electronic or many other stores and they'll be recycled in a diff sense of the word.
@@alexester8238 да, в Иране мы получали те же уроки и в младших классах школы, но в начальной и старшей школе в Канаде их не учат таким вещам... извините за мой плохой русский, это мой шестой язык.. (Скажите, пожалуйста, в чем я ошибаюсь?)
@@papabaer3672 Aug 7 2022 4190 El Camino Real, Atascadero Ca , and trust me lol, I was mistaken on where the batteries were...they were actually just being stored at the dealership, but that didn't change how crazy they burned lol
@@papabaer3672April in Ft Lauderdale. Not sure it was a car, cars or the dealership bldg but I only had 2min to research your inquiry today sir. I'll free up some time after lunch tho.
Just to point out when he drops the burning pack in the water its not out.. that white gas is heavy gas still produced by the battery and is still liable to ignite
@@willkrummeck I can give you the test sites data where they specifically state water .. as there is nothing that will extinguish a fire fully (2023 research) and as I'm guessing you think it's out that white gas coming off is heavy gas abd still explosive
There is a huge difference between a battery actively burning and gas that could possibly burn. I'm guessing english isn't your first language because "out" implies burning/fire and the fire is most definitely "out".
@@Moose_VII english is in fact my first language as im born and raised in the uk for the last 49 years so thats that sorted also you fail to realise that the battery has its own oxygen supply from the chemical reaction going on under water so even though the fire may not be visible it doesnt mean that its fully extinguished (is that a better word for you?) and there are loads of research papers and footage thats shows this happening as the gas is hydrogen also water can intensify the issue, why do you think EVs regnite hours days or even weeks after Thanks to their chemical makeup, lithium-ion (Li-Ion) batteries release oxygen when they heat up and, should they catch fire, it is impossible to smother the flames with water or foam.
Watching this, makes me feel the button should have a backup button further away , clearly i mean so you dont need to be that close to safely plunge it
Thats what you're worried about instead of the guy having to hit it with a hammer and screwdriver to puncture it instead of doing it from further away? Smh.
@@Gamingniqqa you do realize that intelligence isn't based off of things you haven't learned , right? Like things you have never been told, or have no interest in, doesn't make you stupid, because simply you don't know what you haven't been told or seen. So I ask what makes ME stupid? Because I was curious and asked questions and possibly learned something? Or are you smart because like a child , you call me bad name 🥺 . 😂
@@Gamingniqqa but also no, I'm not. Would I be smarter if I watched videos I already knew everything about so when someone showed interest in the topic I call them stupid because they don't already know? Please help me pretend I'm smart, like you 👏💪
I know you're trying to be humorous and I'll admit that was pretty funny I think carbon taxes are a joke they're an attempt to fix a problem without actually fixing the problem typical politics However it's important that people realize you don't compare the battery in electric car to the engine in a gas car you compare the battery and all the electricity you'll use the charge it with your fuel tank and all of the gasoline you'll put in it A typical modern electric car battery will last between 250 and 350,000 mi before the range loss becomes enough that people begin to want to replace it The second thing to realize is that you will never replace the battery in electric car as a wear item it might get replaced after an accident or as a warranty replacement or something like that or if you buy a salvage one and try to restore it but under normal use under normal conditions you will never replace the battery in electric car think about it The car has 300,000 mi on it would you put a new engine in such a car? Of course not You're going to buy a new car it's got 300,000 mi on it every component in that car has 300,000 mi on it Short of collector items or cars that are special to you for some reason no one replaces major components in a car with 300,000 mi on it that's just not how it works it is an aberration to do so So the cost to replace the battery is irrelevant but even if we do compare the cost to replace the battery the analog to that is your gas tank and all of the gas you will put in the car Let's say the battery cost I don't know $14,000 That's probably a pretty good middle of the road average to replace a battery in electric car and you're going to use probably around $6,500 worth of electricity to charge that battery over its lifetime again some places will be cheaper some places will be more Now what is the gasoline equivalent of that? $50,000 You're going to use $50,000 worth of gasoline in your gasoline car over 300,000 mi and that is before you've even burned it That's just to get the gasoline into your gas tank That's not including oil changes or any other fluid changes that your gas car needs that your electric car won't need That's just the gasoline purchase alone....... Even spending a crazy amount of money on like a 100 kilowatt Tesla plaid is cheaper than gasoline by a huge margin And the amount of pollution you will cause by burning $50,000 worth of gasoline makes the amount of pollution caused by the mining and production of a single electric car battery look like literally nothing in comparison and you also have to add all the pollution to get that gasoline refine it fracket crack it move it around etc and then all the pollution to actually burn that gasoline you see when they compare the carbon footprint of cars They always fail to compare the carbon footprint of the production of the gasoline and the burning of the gasoline They only count the carbon footprint of the actual manufacturing of the vehicle itself but when you count the manufacturing footprint of an electric car you are also including a bulk of the cost of all the fuel for that car over its lifetime because you're including the battery which is a permanent part of the car so it would be like comparing two cars and saying well for this car we're going to add all the pollution from the gas but on this car we're going to forget about the pollution from the gas you can see why you get such a lopsided comparison Even if we took all the electric batteries in all the electric cars and chuck them in the lakes and oceans when we were done with them which never happens of course The recycle rate for these batteries is 97% it would still be better for the environment than burning gasoline. The problem with electric cars is that it's kind of like buying a gas car and having to pay for 30% of all your gasoline up front A lot of us would have trouble doing that which is why electric cars are so expensive they're cheaper in the long run but they're more expensive up front at least with our current level of manufacturing mass production and technology. Your gas car is going to cost you 30 or $40,000 more money over its lifetime but you get to pay for that over its lifetime so you don't feel it as much.
@@nerys71Carbon Taxes are a joke... Thats all i need to hear from your simple ass. Literally the best option we have to let the free market do its thing.
The government has hidden the tech to go green. When systems have been created that can get 100 plus mpg out of a chevy 454 4bbl. Until that tech is released we are at the mercy of the greedy government backed industries.
Batteries can catch fire yes...but so can a 14 gallon tank of explosive gasoline. Think for yourself, dont let sensationalist media sway your opinion. Both electric cars and internal combustion are dangerous to operate. In fact, electric cars catch fire less often than internal combustion cars in accidents.
@@spvillanoactually gas doesn't blow up, the fumes do. Batteries on the other hand do blow up. They're fumes blow up as well. In fact just about everything under the sun that has anything to do with the battery is explosive. Which is why despite all the safety precautions and the enormous amount of time and energy put into making Ev batteries safe, so many of them seem to keep Lighting on fire anyway. Per capita actually a significantly more than any fossil fuel vehicle. And that's even counting Hyundai and Kia that build absolute dog s*** cars with plastic fuel connectors and then can't figure out why the cars keep Lighting on fire.
Hmmm you around joilet ill area then.. I think that was Morris il... that warehouse wasn't suppose to even have lithium storage there.. and they had no permits...
@@carlosalbertopulgarinperez8049 And what was that for? My man just speak russian. I appreciate that you want the war to stop, but say it to people who made this war. Thank you for understanding.
@@carlosalbertopulgarinperez8049все так, мы смотрим подобные видео на ютубе, а потом запускаем ракеты по Украине, если бы не смотрели такие видео, то не смогли бы их запускать.
@@3YAPA Zwykłą gaśnicą 5kg to nawet benzyny nie zgasisz, ba było wiele przypadków gdy kilka osób miało duże gaśnice a i tak auto spłonęło. Za to możesz ogień stłumić i trochę spowolnić rozprzestrzenianie się co czasem świadczy o być albo nie być pasażerów.
Jeśli zdążą 🤔 miałeś przykład w Niemczech,gdzie facet się spalił żywcem...bo przy stłuczce wszystkie systemy się zablokowały... łącznie z otwieraniem drzwi...
@@turbodynomen1able nie mówię o wypadku,tylko stłuczce...fakt,wiele było przypadków spłonięcia w aucie spalinowym...ale nie po uderzeniu z prędkością ok 50km/h... pożar samochodowca sprzed kilku miesięcy, nie powstał od pioruna czy zderzenia z innym statkiem... zapłon elektryka...to był powód...
@leszyswarozyc8323 z ciekawości wpisałem w google "pożar samochodowca" Pierwsze wyświetlenia: -auta elektryczne niesłusznie oskarżone o pożar -pożar od elektryka nie został potwierdzony A ty ciemniaku dalej powielaj bajki 😂
Nice mitigation. Saw a video of factory blowing up with in :15 the other day. Guy even went back and thought he was going to die. That’s how fast it conflagrated.
Oh No Shit ... So those Really Work? I got some just in Case but I had No Idea I could use them to Weld... I'll be right back I'm gonna drop an Arc... (Currently blinded for life)
You are spot on. But a little too late. We all keep those little batteries right next to our faces for the better part of the day. Maybe at night as well.
@@HermanWillemsI had 2x LFP batteries from a reputable manufacturer that I used on my boat for trolling motor in series charging in my house go off exactly like this video. Don't tell me chemistry matters that much. I have several hundred 18650 lion batteries too never an issue with those. Only lifepo4... Roll of the dice.
I had a 12s 8,000mah pack go up in flames on charging system in the garage, i was able to grab the cord going to the charger and yeet it into the driveway 😬 that thing turned into a blue hot blow torch for a solid 15 minutes 😬
I don't know what people were thinking when they bought the Tesla car battery operated cars is not really worth it when you only get so many miles out of one charge and then you got to wait half a day to charge your battery I don't care if it's a turbocharger you still got to wait at least a good fucking 5 hours to get a real charge battery gas will always be gas motor gas power will always be stronger than electric power cuz this is not working we don't drive cars on the track of electricity track we drive cars on the fucking pay highway that takes asphalt because that asphalt came from the Petro so yes I was sick to gas over electric cars any day of the week you could not convince me that electric cars are good look at those electric vans front wheel drive not
Znajomy jakiś czas temu sprzedał "samochodzik na baterie". Jeżdżąc z 2 dzieci z tyłu w 2fotelikach mówił ,że niema szans w tak krótkim czasie wynieść dwójki z samochodu. A przed podróżą nigdy nie był wstanie wybrać / ustalić ,które bardziej kocha - żeby właśnie je próbować uratować...
@@fddevnullWybuch - gwałtowne wydzielenie dużych ilości energii, któremu towarzyszy zwykle nagły wzrost temperatury i ciśnienia oraz emisja promieniowania (np. błyskawica, impuls świetlny wybuchu jądrowego) i fal akustycznych (np. grom dźwiękowy, huk wystrzału) Źródło - wikipedia Co to innego w takim razie jak nie wybuch?
@@fddevnull odwrotnie: w filmie :Bohater ostatniej akcji: Gdy Schwarzenegger w realu strzela do samochodu uciekającego że zdziwieniem pyta sam siebie: Dlaczego on nie wybucha? Bo w świecie filmowym wybuchały zawsze. Oglądałeś?
You should see my bulging laptop battery that I just replaced. Was popping the case apart. Which already happened to two of my hell phones, one the bulging battery cracking my Galaxy S10+ screen in half first, then popping the back off of the phone. I think I'll just store an emergency copper thermate charge next to it...
I've had cellphone 📱 batteries get so hot and just screen cracks r I get another bc I'm not tech savvy, however I refuse to let a cellphone take me out☣️🤯
This is why Insurance companies will not insure EVs parked in garages from the damage they may do to your home unless you are UL certified. Even then it's a serious risk.
Remember, one of the 2024 presidential candidates has promised to get rid of EV’s and everything to do with lithium battery government requirements for implementation. And he has kept every promise he has made so far. Sounds like a good candidate to me.
ale po co? tak czy inaczej nic z samochodu nie zostanie. zamiast marnować wodę to poczekać parę godzin niech się wypali do końca.....a potem wytoczyć sprawę producentowi za stworzenie zagrożenia i zatrucie środowiska
I tak się podobno robi :-) Kontenery przeznaczone do gaszenia elektryków są nieużywane, bo nie ma komu płacić za utylizację tej wody. Z takiego pożaru powstaje kilka basenów ogrodowych chemii do utylizacji.
Mr. ENGINEER, you dont seem like a normal engineer. You dont seem impatient, impertinent, pompous, arrogant, and insolent. Did you forget to take your nasty tab today at breakfast? I appreciate your explanations as you seek to enlighten us. You handled the flack well, you did not dismiss us mere mortals as inferior beings. Thanks. I worked with engjneers for 30 years. Perhaps you are new to the field, and have yet to develop disdain and contempt for the rest of us? 😂
On modern busses they have 15 lithium car size batteries on the roof. To work on them you have to put on a special suit and a guy stays nearby with a hook to pull you out if needed.
W auto salonach z elektrykami powinni najpierw klientowi pokazać taki film aby wiedział na czym siedzi. Jak kupujesz paczkę fajek to na opakowaniu jest b.duże ostrzeżenie o szkodliwości palenia a reklamować fajek nie można. OTco
@@maciejskulimowski5612 samochód można ugasić w parę minut a gaszenie elektryka może trwać w skrajnych przypadkach nawet dobę ! Elektryka polewają wodą godzinami ... najlepiej jest go wrzucić do basenu ( tak jak na tym filmie z zapłonem ogniw) . A nam każą oszczędzać każdą kroplę wody . Sprawa druga . Przy wyprodukowaniu elektryka zatruwamy środowisko tak jakbyś jeździł 8 lat dieslem . Dziękuję za uwagę . OTco
@@krzysztof8813 Zgasić elektryka to chwila. Utrzymywać by uszkodzony akumulator trakcyjny miał temperaturę poniżej wartości zapłonu to już jest problem.
В странах где электромобили достаточно часто встречаются - примерно так и есть. У пожарных специальный саркофаг для того что-бы был шанс затушить электромобиль.
@@MALICESSSSS, dice @raven_0707 "...cada auto eléctrico ... seguido por una piscina (broma). Agrego: "sal (para salmuera)..." Seriamente: la salmuera entiendo que es útil si se enfría el agua. De esa manera habría 2 efectos: a) menor punto de congelamiento. b) mayor densidad y Pe. del agua, por tanto, mayor transferencia térmica. Saludos
@@allenseeallendo5844не обращай внимания на этих клоунов. они дальше своих колхозов ничего не видят. работают на тракторах которым больше 50 лет и "радуются"
Przy zapłonie takiej baterii w aucie sytuacja rozwija się dynamicznie . Nie to co w tych nieekologicznych, spalinowych tam silnik to sie tli i tli ...😅
no póki jakiś geniusz inżynier nie otworzy maski :) ale tu masz racje, jak się zadymi to masz na spokojnie czas zabrać się z auta z bambletami ^^ w elektrycznym czajniku na kołach ... no uj wie czy pod dupskiem nie bumnie :D Świat się kończy ! jak już ludzie własnego zdania nie mają i rozumu i ulegają lobbowaniu elektrośmieci. Ktoś na tym zarabia w ciul $ a ty zostajesz zaś z problemami bo teselka Ci autka nie wymieni od tak bo się zjarało :D inni idą w ślad za teslą !
@@user-re7cq3wy6r brak informacji czy Mercedes był z instalacją gazową czy na benzynę lub olej napędowy. Sugeruję, że doszło to rozszczelnienia instalacji gazowej w czasie uderzenia w tył auta przez BMW, które posiada akumulator z w bagażniku i jest dobrze chroniony. Ponadto akumulatory ołowiowe są montowane z przodu w nie w pancernych obudował i przy zderzeniu może dojść do zwarcia w akumulatorze ołowiowym i zainicjować płomień .
@@dzikajagodka3989 Jakby był na gaz to gaz by się rozprężył i uciekł w atmosferę, węglowodory z instalacji są dość lekkie i nie mają problemu żeby się rozwiać na wietrze. Paliwo natomiast rozlewa się na ziemi i pali dokładnie pod samochodem, więc twój pomysł na przyczyny wypadku jest mega naiwny. Instalacja gazowa jest tak zrobiona żeby przetrwała wypadek, a rozszczelnienie jeżeli nastąpi to nie pójdzie do środka kabiny pasażerskiej!
"Ok so we've built the testbed with emergency platform release, with automatic extinguishing, smoke venting and safety alarm." "How do we start the test, is there some sort of safety punctuature simulation robot" "No, get this, you know Dave the intern? we get him to hit it with a hammer"😂
Así es tienes toda la razón sabes cuantos an estallado desde celulares hasta carros hermano un motor gasolina no estalla por que si. Saludos desde Centroamérica hermano
Per 100,000 miles, gas cars have more fires. A gas car that's done a respectable 40mpg for 100,000 miles has burnt 2500gallons or 11300 litres of fuel. That fuel cannot be recycled after this. The battery can be and isn't polluting at a fraction of that level.
Obrigado pela explicação, sou lírico no assunto mas um curioso para muita coisa, e está aí uma explicação útil, pq conhecimento bom é sempre útil. Obrigado por compartilhar!
You should have left it alone your explanation was fine and appreciated. There are many ignorant people in the world. There's was no need to try and correct or add to your statement about theory of electricity. It's just a waste of your time...if that's the case you could have explained the difference between electron theory and conventional theory and really confuse the hell out of them..
Yeah at the factory during production..ever see how many days it takes to put out in a malfunctioning tesla? It's ludicrous people call this clean energy..tons upon ton of materials mined to make one car. Such a joke these people are telling!
You should see us pop all the airbags when they get replaced for warranty or whatever reason at the dealerships. We're mandated to send them all back, but they can't be live/charged. Lol
That must be fun. I know you MFers have launched just about everything possible with an air bag. I worked at a shop yard where we had a beer can cannon and all sorts of fun "BS Myth Busting". Lol
@@johndc2998 Interesting. Maybe things have changed, as my dealership experience was quite some time ago. What dealer do you work for? I was a GM dealer tech in California from 2002-2010. Next a Ford/Mazda tech '10-12, then/now I'm at an independent shop. Also when at Ford, we also sent the airbags back live.
Depends if your company can ship hazardous materials. We make airbag cylinders, and if filled, they can hold, depending on the model, between 10 000- 20 000 psi. Not to be played around with. Lol.
Ty sobie zobacz najpierw jak wydobywanie ropy naftowej wygląda,ile jest z tym syfu w morzu,ile energii jest do tego potrzebne ,ile co2 z tego powodu się produkuje ,ile ty potem plujesz przez rurę do powietrza,a co najlepsze te wasze graty potem w Afryce rozbierają i dzieci palą wszystko na hołdzie żeby wydobywać miedź i inne materiały! Zastanów się lepiej zanim powtarzasz jak papuga głupoty innych !
@@quercusogrody-wycinkadrzew9204My też wiemy ze ciebie polaczku kredyciarzu nie stac na mieszkanie😂 Ale spokojnie kupisz sobie elektryka i bedziesz w nim koczował
@@quercusogrody-wycinkadrzew9204może go stać tylko nie chce siedzieć na bombie lub nie chce być niewolnikiem własnego auta. Też nie widzę sensu w przebudowie swojej działki pod stacje ładowania.
Exactly. They should have called the fire department to have a guy in full dress down light that fire. Check the American videos testing of lithium ion battery fires.
no. i once got fire directly hit my eyes but im still good and okay. probably we got so many layer of fluid protecting our eyesight. but yes we should be aware of hazardous material and sharp object from entering our eye
I've seen some gnarly lithium fires over the years in rocketry and RC's. Once it is rocking it'll burn under water. I deliberately sat one off and tried to smother it on a wood table. The jumping beans literally burned through the table and went to bouncing on the floor 😂
I wonder if you could engineer a model rocket design, using 18650 as the fuel source, somehow. 🤓🤔 I know that you can make a kind of pipe bomb with lithium ion batteries (I’ve never attempted to make one, but I read an account of someone using an early model of an LED flashlight that had a thermal runaway event, the author chucked it onto their balcony and closed the door. It exploded with enough force to damage the glass railing barrier. Which leads to the conclusion that a pipe bomb, Could be made, the fusing for which would be basically a short circuit.). I’m just not certain how to make the 18650 thermal event intentionally go out of a rocket nozzle after ignition rather than out the sides of the rocket body.
@@akseminole well I'm not an expert on the matter but my career was in Vertical Launch Systems or VLS. I do build rockets as a hobby. I want to say a thermal runaway on lithium ion occurs at around 300°. It can occur due to a couple of reasons I believe first being a short circuit or damage to the case. Another being a contaminate at time of manufacturing. The last being improper storage temperature wise. Tomorrow I'll do some searching. I want to say I've come across a couple exotic rocket fuel recipes that were using lithium as a fractional chemical in place of the burn catalyst. For example KN+C+S the S being approximately 7-10% of the overall or KN+Su+ RIO the latter of the two being the smallest portion is normally burn catalyst or stabilizer. I'm certain there is someone using a lithium catalyst. If I'm not mistaken it has a unique burn characteristic as well used in pyrotechnics. You might be onto something. I've been working with a lot of exotic KN recipes mainly for ease of access to the KN and Su known as Rocket Candy. However one simple way to 3x your thrust output is to add Al or Mg or AlMg which I've been doing at 10% of my Kn+Su+Rio or Su. Depending on the source you get an intense white flame or even stars out the exhaust it depends on source and microns of material. One of the big issues is the ignition temp required to get an even core ignition. I don't recall what it requires off hand but I load the core with flash powder 😆. Lithium however has a much lower volatility temperature. And ultimately ignition. I know it converts of course to gas. I would be concerned of the prospect of it being corrosive to the case and seals. The other aspect being in any significant quantity in case of a Cato how do you halt the reaction. I'll do some searching for the teams using it. I want to say one team was using it on a Sodium based rocket possibly.
Happens most of the time due to wrong storage of the batterypack Store your li ions always with 20-80% charge in dry conditions and around 15-20 degree Celsius
Thermal runaway is caused by an internal short and the charging process. This is a chemical reaction. Litium reacts explosively with the water in the air. Much like sodium potassium etc does. I'm n9t discounting the concern or possibility of a thermal runaway but that isn't what is happening here.
and I bet you still advocate for this as an alternative to fossil fuels, even though you're still using fossil fuels to charge it and it's likely to spontaneously ignite
Ну будем честны что если авария в электромобиле привела к взрыву акб - вы бы и так и так умерли. А вот пожар во время зарядки это да, ужасная ситуация, и потушить их почти невозможно.
