Was a COMPUTER Used to Design this Artifact??

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Were forms of computers and sophisticated machining processes used in deep antiquity? Startling new evidence is leading us to some very interesting conclusions along these lines. This video is further analysis of the Ancient Egyptian, pre-dynastic granite vase that has been the previous subject of some of my recent work - and the outcome of this work is, frankly, revelatory, and fundamentally challenging to everything we think we know about the history and capabilities of ancient civilizations on this planet.
A mathematical and geometric analysis of the structured-light scan results was performed by Mark (and colleague) of the unsigned.io website, who reverse-engineered the vase to reveal not only the mathematical system most likely used to design the vase, but the very algorithms that define it, and the depth of mathematical interrelation encoded in it. Using purely the mathematical design he created a CAD model and found it conformed to the actual artifact with microscopic levels of precision.
Want to find out just how deep the rabbit hole goes on the topic of ancient technology? Join me in this video as we explore and explain the amazing results of this most recent analysis of this remarkable ancient object.
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Article: unsigned.io/articles/2023_03_...
Previous Vase videos:
Scanning a Predynastic Granite Vase to 1000th of an inch: • Scanning a Predynastic...
Vase Scan Update, more Analysis: • Ancient Egyptian Vase ...
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@pjeffries301 Год назад

Please take care of yourself, Ben. You are quickly becoming as valuable as the artifacts you investigate. Thank you beyond words.

@doomed2die595 Год назад

100% fact.

@dubselectorr345 Год назад

Yessir. Let's make sure Zahi doesn't send his horde after him for calling out phony science- and actually doing real science

@888_vav Год назад

I totally agree 👍. Side note: is there any relation with this vase and the symbol of the heart in ancient egypt. Particularly the heart symbolism in the weighing opposite to feather of ma'at...?

@888_vav Год назад

After watching some more .... Anyone else seeing a direct correlation with this jars construction and the pyramids ....? Both seem to hold fundamental patterns of nature to a degree beyond our fathom. It must be safe to say whoever made these also made the pyramids or shared the same wisdom/technology. Is it possible that a lost technology harnessing the underlying energy of this existence was used and hence be the natural patterns and extremely miniscule tolerances? May be that "blueprints" of these ancients objects were not drawn in totality by consciousness seated in a physical form. Maybe an underlying consciousness? If you seek knowledge, look to nature.

@birushinobi Год назад

@@888_vav If you seek knowledge, google stone mason

@dubselectorr345 Год назад

Speaks magnitudes that archeologists are NOT contacting Ben about this amazing content and unbelievable data and analysis. Does this not excite the entire scientific community?

@WahrheitMachtFrei. Год назад

Egyptology progresses one funeral at a time...

@mizofan Год назад

Ostriches with heads buried in the sand- or 3 monkeys see no truth, hear no truth, speak no truth

@wrxsti1987 Год назад

It's absolutely a shame. Shows how history was "his" story. And the truth Is absolutely 💯 hidden from mankind.

@Magicalfluidprocess Год назад

@@WahrheitMachtFrei. that’s very funny 😂

@Magicalfluidprocess Год назад

You would think it would excite them

@billbrolin1246 Год назад

Amazing what those ancient Egyptians could do with copper chisels and pounding stones!

@martinezlucia101 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@MontyCraig Год назад

This is what Bard said: The vase in the article you linked is a beautiful and intricate work of art. It is made of granite, and its shape is based on a mathematical equation. The equation is called the Fibonacci sequence, and it is a series of numbers where each number is the sum of the two previous numbers. The sequence starts with 0 and 1, and then continues as follows: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, ... The Fibonacci sequence can be found in nature in many places, such as the spiral of a seashell or the petals of a flower. It is also used in art and architecture, and it is said to be aesthetically pleasing. The vase in the article is based on the Fibonacci sequence, and its shape is a spiral. The spiral is made up of a series of curves that get wider and wider as they move away from the center. The curves are also arranged in a way that follows the Fibonacci sequence. The vase is a beautiful example of how mathematics can be used to create art. It is also a reminder of the beauty that can be found in nature. The master equation for the vase is as follows: Code snippet r = a * f^(n) Use code with caution. Learn more where: r is the radius of the vase at a given point a is the radius of the vase at the center f is the golden ratio, which is approximately 1.618 n is the number of curves in the spiral The master equation can be used to calculate the radius of the vase at any point along the spiral. This can be used to create a 3D model of the vase, or to print the vase out on a 3D printer. The vase is a beautiful and intricate work of art. It is also a reminder of the beauty that can be found in mathematics.

@Unidentifying Год назад

i think thats a nice bluff

@finnjake6174 Год назад

Hey Bard, is not currently supported in my country. Can you paste this in see what it says? The quran says there will be a creature of earthly material that will speak to mankind and tell them that they are of "our" signs doubtful, 27:82 and then later 27:93 saying in time the signs will be shown to mankind, so be patient. The chapter starts with two seperated letters; 27:1 "T, S" The chapter have 27 times T, and 93 times S. The chapter consists of 93 verses. There are other wierd patterns in the book, specifically to the golden ratio. The quran consists of 6236 verses. I was thinking about a verse 16:18 saying that god favours are infinite and cannot be counted fully. Phi is a irrational number as the fibbonacci sequence goes to infinity. The chapter "The bee" 16, also the bee with their hapliod 16 chromosome, the ratio of population from parent population to actual population progresses towards phi ratio. The golden section point of 6236/3854 is the 3854th verse; Here is what it says 37:66 "they will fill their bellies with it" the belly button from top to belly, and from belly button to feet those two ratios gives 1.618- A further study was done showing that belly button also occurs in golden section from the chest to belly and belly button to hip. So it repeats. The quran counted is 77430 words; the golden section from the top of the quran to 47855th word it lands on this verse 26:123 People of Aad denied our signs The verse gematria in arabic is 1618, Aad, was a nation that built into the bedrock, homes. But they vanished and destroyed, in 7 nights and to the 8th day, through lightning storms according to the quran. The greater part of the golden section 47855th measure, can be flipped, so that we can count from the end of the quran. This time it lands in this verse, at the start of the word "The people of Hud" 11:89 "the people of ", Hud Hud was a prophet sent to Aad nation. The verse it self don't equal 1618 in gematria, but the verse consists of 76 letters. The golden section is at the 47th letter, and its the start of the word "Hud"

@user-vl8ke7rk3k 11 месяцев назад

Thank you I'll remember this

@htlein Год назад

I think all serious viewers of these videos are no longer concerned with the views of Egyptologists and (most) archaeologists - the stunning revelations of ONE pot/jar contains so many seemingly incongruous paths of enquiry; now addicted to learn more and more! Many thanks for all the investigators and to Ben for his excellent presentations!

@johannjohann6523 Год назад

In the public record, will this change the ancient Egyptian narrative, or be discarded as a scam, and Ben being slandered as a fraud?

@Mike-zu9ke Год назад

Yeah but I still wish someone could/would explain why Ben is wrong.. and I guess that’s what sucks is that we will never truly know

@joncottrell5382 Год назад

I agree, they should stick to finding things for others to interpret. Their 'expertise' is not relevant

@hellovicki6779 Год назад

@Aqua Fyre I do not think you can claim science was not done here. It was science, investigation beautifully executed with an extremely strong conclusion. At minimum, it shows that the prevailing understanding of this ancient culture has been superficial and assumptive. I also wonder why such an investigation was performed outside of the discipline tasked to study the subject?

@Fooknose88 Год назад

Archeologist don’t know true history, just a narrative filled with flaws.

@DGreatAwakening Год назад

Having just watched this, I'm having another one of those moments, where everything you THOUGHT you knew about reality, was just thrown out the window. I'm sitting here totally mind-blown. Yes, I've believed for quite some time that we have had very advanced civilizations in our past. But after watching this, I'm realizing just HOW technically advanced at least some portion of society had to have been. Proof of this has just been laid out via analysis of one small jar...the first of others to come. Just one of many 'new' big questions I at least have...How far back did the creators of these vases live? And another...what happened to all of the machines/equipment utilized to make these things? As another commented on here, where are all of the "professionals"/archaeologists on this? Seriously, this should be headline news in their journals. Like damn near everything we've been told, most all of it has been a pack of intentional lies. Why? Someone knows the real truth (IMO). Why are they holding back from us? Thank God for folks like Ben. We'll get to the truth come hell or high water. Fascinating, game-changing, jaw-dropper right here!...

@jntdvs Год назад

I think this technology was taught by angels to the first man and woman God created. Read Genesis 1. The first couple is distinct from Adam and Eve. They were not the same people!!!

@UnchartedX Год назад

@@Akimos standard response from someone who doesn't understand precision, basic maths, or logic. I expect many. Try reading it and/or thinking?

@DGreatAwakening Год назад

@@Akimos Trust me, I have plenty of understanding. Did you take time to watch the clip, and additionally check out Mr. Qvist and his research that was utilized in this discussion? There is no doubt that the technology utilized was beyond just a lathe. The precision is such that some type of computing technology had to be utilized to machine the jar. To add difficulty to the feat, a very hard stone (granite) was utilized. And don't forget, granite is coarsely grained, and includes pieces of quartz, so we're not talking about a congruous piece of material.

@radezzientertainment501 Год назад

seriously thank god for ben, if not for people like him we'd have folks running around thinking adam and eve were going to workshops and seminars

@falconquest2068 Год назад

@@Akimos You can't make this on a lathe. Do you understand how a lathe works?

@megorra Год назад

My mind is utterly blown by this. This is probably some of the best evidence yet of the "proof" that our history is neglecting high technologies lost to our knowledge. Wow. Truly amazing video, Ben.

@williamrose7818 Год назад

Or an a really simple forgotten way to do something

@marktyler3381 Год назад

@@williamrose7818 Absolutely. There has to be a simple way of machining mixed material crystal one degree below diamond to a wall width of 2-3mm. Probably involved donkeys.

@M1ggins Год назад

But not high tech enough to make the handles even.

@marktyler3381 Год назад

@@M1ggins Clearly, this is either entirely BS or you need to go to Specsavers

@hoidoei941 11 месяцев назад

@@M1ggins⁠Yeah only lost alien technology has measuring tools 😂

@kristimcgowandarkoscellard3126 Год назад

BRAVO 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Standing ovation from me!!! You boys have done it!!! This work is absolutely astonishing and changes forever the STORY we have been given about our ancestors and their capabilities in all things!!! The work is unimpeachable so be prepared for the mainstream to attack your character!!! This work will go down his-story as the work to prove beyond doubt our ancestors were advanced and I am certain you all will be remembered as pioneers who changed this field of study forever!!!! Cheers

@Bob-cu8no Год назад

Hi I was using five axis cnc lathes for turning Metal jobs in 2005 in my trade ( I high light "metals" because it would be far easer to do that work with than in granite) I have both trade/engineering and science (BHSC) qualifications up a to university level. If this paper was honestly peer reviewed I believe there is a very high probability it would be considered as genuine proof of manufacture of this vase by an even more advanced civilisation. Absolutely fantastic professional scientific work done at a very high level of credibility.

@HellCatt0770 Год назад

This definitely deserves a paper for peer review! 🤞🏽

@travisnapier2693 Год назад

The “peers” would eat this crap alive for not being able to provide provenance for the vase. This thing could be less than 15 years old.

@cf2851 Год назад

@@travisnapier2693 There are many of them in the Cairo museum. They should allow someone to measure those, because no one has.

@cf2851 Год назад

@@travisnapier2693 Also anyone making the claim that this is modern needs to produce one, in granite, and submit it to a metrology lab for inspection.

@travisnapier2693 Год назад

@@cf2851 anyone making the claim that this is ancient needs to provide video evidence of a sealed tomb being opened with vases inside and test those. Plenty of guys who run cnc machines are saying it’d be hard, not impossible to do today. Meaning it is possible if someone wants to.

@inthemix Год назад

Many of your videos are utterly mind boggling (the Serapeum series especially) but this vase series is just taking it to the next level. It seems like undeniable proof to me!

@inthemix Год назад

@@ZeroOneInfinity I’d give just about anything to hear a quality sound system resonate in there. Probably would not sound good on modern music but with the right resonant tones I think it would be pure magic…

@sKraat528 Год назад

What exactly it is proof of, is still a question, However.. these facts absolutely BLOW APART all 'simple hand tools' theories.

@johannjohann6523 Год назад

Who would have thought a six inch vase might hold some of the secrets of the pyramids at Giza, and other ancient Egyptian architecture and artwork like the amazing statues they created. And the idea of a computer is not so far fetched with the finding of the Antikythera mechanism (just wish they gave it an easier name). lol. Powering a computer is also only in milliamps to make the circuits work, so it doesn't need "alot" of electricity. And the computer "chip" is made out of? sand.

@sKraat528 Год назад

@@johannjohann6523 Wow, actually great points tbh. I am not 'fully on board' with the 'computers' theory, but.. from my experience in modern engineering and machining, tens of thousands of 'ancient egyptian' artifacts could *only* have been made with lathes and other high precision tools..

@johnj5985 Год назад

@@sKraat528 A lathe that cuts on 5 axis, able to hold the piece without having to adjust it's position throughout various tool changes, without leaving marks or introducing tooling errors? It seems obvious a process completely foreign to ours uses a mathematical equation, not pictorial, entered into a device with a highly advanced computing system working exclusively with ratios. One that we don't know of yet.

@mistral-unizion-music Год назад

As a former machinist, I totally agree that this was made using a lathe. The mind boggling thing is the handles... Either they where "glued" by some ways after the turning process, by "melting" the granite like we do for pottery or the whole vase was made with a multi axis CNC machine like suggested. Incredible stuff. We are absolutely not the first generation of humans with high technology roaming on this earth, we just kinda lost traces of it in history and those artefacts are there to reminds us that it all existed. Fascinating!

@methylene5 Год назад

There was no gluing or melting involved, it would be obvious in granite. Melted granite turns into volcanic glass upon cooling. This artifact was simply machined in one piece using very precise tooling. I also have my doubts that they were ever "vases", not a single original lid has been found.

@mistral-unizion-music Год назад

@@methylene5 Yeah I totally agree about the glueing. It makes no sense really. A vase in my vision, does not have a lid, at least in the french version of the term (I speak french). It's more like a flower holding thing with open top, if you know what I mean. So maybe "vase" was not the right word for it. Not important, the point is the fabrication process.

@AndyBsUTube Год назад

You can't melt granite and re-form it unless you allow it to cool really slowly so the crystals can regrow - this is 10 or 100s of 1000s of years. quicker cooling gives basalt or diorites.

@SlickArmor Год назад

@@mistral-unizion-music I think the manufacturing process is but a single point among many others just as important.

@SlickArmor Год назад

@@methylene5 I have also been uncomfortable about calling these mere vases. I'm wondering if the others found were, as far as could be seen, exact duplicates. If there are differences I wonder if they maybe somehow a way of storing information similar to a hard drive or a floppy disk. It would be like stone age people stumbling on a floppy disk and think it is merely a drink coaster. Or finding magnetic tape and thinking it is just old present ribbon or bow making material. Maybe they somehow fit into one of their computers and data read off of them.

@fockewulf190d Год назад

I wonder if the surface of this vase, or of any future object, could be examined with an electron microscope. It would be very interesting to see how the surface is affected by whatever instrument was involved in creating it.

@carlw Год назад

I've wondered that myself!!👍

@jenswpedersen Год назад

Is it possible to decide what tools were used in that way?

@Kinetic-Energy117 Год назад

Hmmm...not sure, the electron microscope & it's intended usage in biology, I doubt but just to hear you aware of it def impresses me

@carlw Год назад

@@jenswpedersen Probably only tools as we understand them

@carlw Год назад

@@Kinetic-Energy117 scanning electron microscope is not intended solely for biology though.

@tjstengel Год назад

As a Mechanical Engineer, I have always loved learning about ancient history and artifacts like these, especially in the last couple of years. To me, this is amazing, even considering the machines I have used and designed parts for many times over. I don't think people understand the types of tolerances that we can make or what it takes to make tight consistent tolerances. Love watching these episodes!

@kuhrd Год назад

The main issue with people making measurements off of 3D model created by the structured light scanner is that it is not really as accurate to that actual object scanned as claimed due to the processing that takes place within the SLS software when converting the point cloud scan data to a mesh for the 3D model. I made this point on his last video but I don't think people realize how an SLS works and what the software actually does to create a fancy 3D model. The best industrial SLS units only have a max resolution of +/-0.002in or +/-0.05mm so the actual band of precision is outside the thickness of a human hair so a scan could result in a model that is far enough off to slide a piece of standard 20# printer paper through it that has a thickness of just under 0.004in. Because of this, the software that converts the point cloud to a mesh uses a best fit algorithm to make the resulting mesh less complex and easier to process on a 3D printing slicer. If this was scanned on a modern SLS industrial scanner I would expect the point cloud data from several scan passes to take up several gigabytes and an unaltered, unsmoothed mesh generated directly from the valid non duplicate points in the point cloud to be hundreds of megabytes in size. As it is, the STL file provided has a lot of smoothing applied so it is just under 46MB in size. I would argue that using the processed and smoothed 3D scan is going to make any mathematical elements look more correct than they are because the computer is applying best-fit algorythims and analyzing the vase in this way is akin to a dog chasing its tail. 3D model challenges aside they still cannot verify or prove the providence of the vase so that is the first order of business before we even start talking about the accuracy we can measure this vase too let alone finding any mathematical elements within the layout of the vase construction.

@johannjohann6523 Год назад

No the average person does not understand engineering, electricity beyond flipping a switch, how the engine their car makes it go etc. They are more concerned about Oprah and the Kardashians. Or at least, that is what we are told to watch and is more important. But I know from meeting too many people they really are myopic and don't have a clue about the world they live in, except the one in front of their nose.

@tjstengel Год назад

Something else I have pondered over is vibrations. In our culture, or at least my line of work and many others, vibrations are generally bad. You have rotating equipment, car engine, electric motor etc., vibrations can and will destroy the part if you run them at the natural frequencies. So we design around these natural frequencies and do what we can to mitigate and lessen the vibrations experienced. The only case I can currently think of where we use vibration in a good way, is vibratory stress relief. Basically you vibrate a part to try and relive stress in it. Otherwise, vibration is bad. Knock in your engine because a bearing went bad, the Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse because of vibration brought on by the wind blowing across it. WE try to avoid vibrations and design around them. What if the ancients, were the opposite and instead used vibrations to their advantage? For machining, molding, moving blocks of granite, maybe vibrating the granite to "soften" it so they could cut it, or something similar to ultrasonic machining. Maybe they use vibrations to their advantage instead of trying to avoid or prevent them like we do today.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

@@tjstengel vibratory stress relief?

@tjstengel Год назад

@@AustinKoleCarlisle Yes. I forget the name of the machine but we use it sometimes for stress relieving of smaller shafts. We have criteria for it, but ya it is literally what it sounds like. Vibrating a part to relieve internal stresses. The more common stress relieving process is thermal stress relieving, but there are times to use vibratory stress relieving.

@KJinBKK Год назад

I've been obsessing about these vases since I saw them in the Cairo museum during a month long trip to Egypt 15 years ago. I'm a geologist. So excited that you are focusing on this now, Ben. To not marshal an effort, as a society, to scan and model at least hundreds of these things would be an act of scientific and intellectual abdication. If access to what the Egyptian authorities have in storage is not realistic, surely many of the pieces in private collections from the days when diplomats were gifted them (like this one) can be tracked down and borrowed.

@kalebgullan4157 Год назад

THESE ARE A HOAX.. WE WERE RESET- so they added these to keep the conspiracist preoccupied on worthless riddles in my opinion..

@brownnoise357 Год назад

I couldn't Agree More . Bob. 🤔👍💯✨️✨️✨️

@harrywalker968 Год назад

watch. viper tv sumerian tablets.. they nuked sodom & gomorrah,,they made clones,, they made hybrids,,for fun.. so, making vases,,is childs play.. the schist dish,?,, has no use, unless its to do with resonance, or light.. the pyramids are 10,s of thousands of yrs old.. we were meant to be wiped out,,13k ago.. everything you learn in school, uni, ect,,is bs..ive seen ufo,s. orbs, 5 yrs ago, shadow person, 50 yrs ago..sht myself..

@davidkohler7454 Год назад

@@brownnoise357 your name checks out..lol.. just poking,that's all.

@karukerabeats Год назад

me too since 2018

@TwoKnowingRavens Год назад

The terrifying thing about this artifact is that even if it was "a fake" it would still require serious explanation. Even if it was made 100 years ago it would shake history and science to it's core. But it's supposedly 4000-6000 years old. If it was the only one of it's kind, it would be a miracle. The fact that there are at least dozens and likely thousands of these objects is literally the closest you could get to the impossible in archaeological terms. This object is quite literally supernatural.

@EskWIRED Год назад

Why do you think the ancient Egyptians were incapable of turning this on a lathe?

@Koaki913 Год назад

@@EskWIREDThe accuracy is unimaginably above just a lathe and chisels.

@depleteduraniumcowboy3516 Год назад

@@EskWIRED Why do you think the handles could be created on a lathe?

@originsdecoded3508 Год назад

What makes it even more terrifying is that ancient temples all over the continent, such as the pyramids, temples in Cambodia, Mexico, Peru, Guatemala, Ireland, china, and pretty much in almost every country, those temples show very low tolerance for geometric inaccuracy or measurement deviation. those vases is one thing, but having such mathematical capacity for perfection on multi million ton temples is a whole lot of terrifying realizations.

@harryman8378 Год назад

The question is. Is it just ignorance……Or does someone. Some group. Whatever. ???????………know the truth. Has misinformation been spread deliberately. The pyramids are just tombs for example………What about the small shafts in the pyramid. The door with the metal bars etc. What’s that all about. ??????………

@penguinista Год назад

This should motivate some museum curators to put their vases to the test as well. The process is safe, non destructive, and creates a high resolution record of the piece. Now it needs to be done with several objects that have clear provenance. The parallel precision math in different objects would be a smoking gun. This and other evidence should already have opened eyes, so there will be more resistance to looking at evidence. We may be at the dawn of a new understanding of prehistory and UnchartedX has been invaluable in the struggle to get there!

@EGlideKid Год назад

Of all the ancient artifacts and Oopart's the study of this vase truly was groundbreaking and completely startling and mindboggling. Can you imagine if the ancients who made this would be chuckling right now to know how we're scratching our heads over this? On the other hand, you have the Zawi's, etc., from Egypt, and the other 'brainiacs' around the world who still must hold to the party line that says the Dynastic Egyptians made these things. Wow. No wonder it takes so long for mankind to get anywhere with our real history. Well done, Ben.

@johannjohann6523 Год назад

Even when the ancient Egyptians have said or written on papyrus they "found" the megalithic structures of Egypt. You'd sure think with all the hieroglyphs there would be one, one that said something about the Giza pyramids, or anything about pyramids.

@travisnapier2693 Год назад

I think someone is definitely chuckling right now about this vase because they made it in our modern times and people are desperately trying to claim it’s pre dynastic

@travisnapier2693 Год назад

@@EGlideKid how long has it been around for? How much did it sell for to have this pedigree you speak of? We haven’t tested any from the museums that have actual origins and provable provenance only this thing from a private collection. If you really find it more likely that this thing is from an ancient civilization that has computers and machines rather than a replica made in modern times I have a bridge in New York and swamp land in Arizona to sell you.

@travisnapier2693 Год назад

@@EGlideKid the owner said. I have the original spear of destiny that killed Jesus and the billet from Lincoln’s brain. It’s true because I said it.

@ControlledDemolition Год назад

One of these micron precise objects was found in a 13 thousand year old grave discovered near Syria, a grave not found in Egypt for certain. So I would infer that the other objects are necessarily that old, at least, since we are talking about a disastrous period of time, it may very likely be from a much older period of time.

@UnchartedX Год назад

indeed, they've been found in burials going back to nearly 15,000 years.

@sshreddderr9409 Год назад

according to the timeline of the ancient egyptians, their ancestor civilization there goes back to like over 30 thousand years in egypt, but its more likely that it goes back much further in other parts of the world. if such a technology can be entirely erased by periodic cataclysms, who knows how far back this goes.

@HellCatt0770 Год назад

Let’s face it - if this level of technology was around 6-8 thousand years ago we would find more evidence. Who ever made this must have been around a very long time ago… which is mind blowing…

@skipperdogs Год назад

@@HellCatt0770 I'm beginning to doubt these were made by human hands. We simply did not reach this level of technology.

@pbee8335 Год назад

Giza pyramid around 59,000 yo built on top of the ace of the covenant portal opening.

@thegreatbloviator6817 Год назад

Couple of considerations-- 1. The objects(vases, bowls etc) are merely decorative, in which case they were "easy", i.e. practical, to make on a large scale. This means some method of mass production, which rules out hand tools and also one-off machine tools. You don't spend a lot of time setting up a lathe or cnc machine to crank out a simple decorative vase to ultra-high precision. This implies something beyond that, maybe a device where you open a door, stick in a chunk of granite, plug in your design and the machine does all the work(robot arms with super-hard cutting tips?) and the precision is a by-product. 2. The objects have some practical function, who know what. In this case it would justify one-off techniques like lathes and cnc machines If the objects are merely decorative, it implies a higher-tech level than if they have some practical function, but for sure, in both cases, the tech was higher than just simple hand tools.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

look into polygonal stone walls which span the entire globe. many of them (the oldest ones) interlock and perfectly mate in three dimensions. if you stop to consider the difficulty of doing that by hand, you'll see that it would be impossible by "trial and error" fitting considering that many stones weigh over a ton. the only way to achieve this is with computer guided cutting--just like the implications of this video.

@timothyblazer1749 10 месяцев назад

100%. That implies tech level 1+ on the kardishov scale. Post scarcity.

@davidpalk5010 9 месяцев назад

Perhaps these items were of significant importance and huge value to their creators and/or they had a very important practical use, but that does nothing to explain the unworldly mathematics and technolgy involved.

@Siik94Skillz 4 месяца назад

Point number 1 isvery very very important! We need to understand the context under which these artifacts were created.

@benwahsmotoworld Год назад

This is the most important and utterly astounding video on the internet currently. Bravo Ben for your tenacity amidst the gravitational drag of those clasping at the old dogma in the face of realtime indisputable data.

@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Год назад

Bronze Age level tools like copper tools can not get perfection of this kind with SUPER HARD stone. I'm sorry it's totally impossible. To be clear... whoever made this clearly had something more advanced in their tool kit like machinery

@UnchartedX Год назад

No matter what you use you can't create something like this by hand.

@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Год назад

@@UnchartedX I can't see how this could be done without having some type of technology or highly advanced knowledge.

@kenpumford754 Год назад

@@user-kn6pn1cn8maside from the design details that were translated into stone with incredible precision, a lathe isn't going to help you cut the region between the handles.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

@Aqua Fyre if they didn't replicate it to the same standards and precision then it doesn't prove anything and is not a true "replication". i can "recreate" a computer out of cardboard and paint, but if it doesn't use electricity of perform calculations, is it "really" a full replication? that's the kind of argument you're making when you point to these Russian hoax videos as "proof it can be done by hand". it's absurdly pathetic and a waste of everyone's time.

@johnk-pc2zx Год назад

You've got it arse-backwards mate.

@94NeoM Год назад

Ben, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. All the videos I watched over the years opened my eyes and because of you, I realized that there is so much unknown about our past. I always scratch my head after watching one of your videos, but I am a skeptic so even tho an ancient civilization sounded like a reasonable explanation I always had the 5% of doubt. However! After the last few videos, I am 100% sure that the artifacts we see could not have been made by ancient Egyptians or any other known civilization in our known past. I am a mechanical engineer, CNC technologist, and 5-axic CNC programmer I am surrounded by precision every day. I design precision I make precision and I measure precision daily. So when I saw the measurement you made I was speechless. Making such a vase is very difficult even with today's technology, now imagine someone doing this thousands of years ago. The mathematics, the tools, and the measuring devices for verification, all had to be there in order to make this one object and there are thousands more out here! I think slowly but surely we will uncover a whole new chapter in our human history and it is all thanks to people like you that do the research and spread the knowledge based on facts. I really hope I get the chance to meet you someday on one of your tours, shake your hand, and thank you in person for all the great things you are doing.

@lynnehaywood5305 Год назад

These vases are one of the main examples I always give as evidence of lost technology in our past. However, I do think we need to bring together people like Ben and others who are working directly on these artifacts so they can exchange and confirm what is known so far. We especially need Chemical Engineers and Geologists. An American guy called Geoffrey Drumm is working in Egypt and uploading videos like Ben. His theory is that the pyramids were producing chemicals on an industrial scale. The pyramids were later 'found' and repurposed as tombs. Geoffrey has published a lot of sample data that was produced by a Russian team of Scientists, and it is very convincing. I have my suspicions that chemicals were used in the quarrying of the unfinished obelisk. The boxes in the Serapeum appear to be finished using a chemical and also there is evidence that a chemical was spilt on the floor of the Hathor Temple, Dendera, Egypt. It is often thought that in ancient times, stone could be melted into shape. If you have not already seen the work of Geoff Drumm, can I suggest you start with episode 55 of The Land Of Chem on youtube.

@johannjohann6523 Год назад

I hate to say it, but "somebody" has the knowledge about our ancient past. They just ain't sharing.

@kevinlucko2902 Год назад

You said a lot of what I wanted to express, thank you! Ben is obviously a hero!

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

@@lynnehaywood5305 we need an ancient humanity symposium with Ben, Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock, Praveen Mohan, and ROBERT SEPEHR.

@keirankainth Год назад

I have a question if you have the experience you state. Would this artefact be “very difficult” or, “impossible” to create today? Why would it be difficult, if so? If your machines can create masterpieces out of metal, why would creating a piece like this be so beyond our capabilities. No one explains the why.

@thegreatbloviator6817 Год назад

I think the fact that these objects are made of stone is what throws a lot of people. To most people stone=primitive, while the fact is that stone is an amazing material that is the product of forces we cannot duplicate. If this object were made of, say, stainless steel, the precision would be obvious to most people --it would look like an aircraft part.

@QQ_241 Год назад

I agree, but I also wonder if there was a reason for the material used other than showboating. Could they have been made of granite as it was necessary so as not to be dissolved into the whatever it was used to store without cross contamination? Was there ever a lid? How tightly could the lid seal the vessel? Was the vessel even ever used? Could it be because it offered a way of reaching perfect sterile environment? Could it be because it could be made seamlessly like cooking facilities today etc etc etc. There has to be a good reason they are made of stone, and it certainly wasn't because of its durability or ease of manipulation. Can you imagine the level of trial and error that led up to that moment of perfection? It blows my mind.

@marktyler3381 Год назад

The steel would long gone. Who's to say it wasn't a steel technology? I mean, what objects around us would exist in say 10,000 years?

@marktyler3381 Год назад

@@QQ_241 No lids has to be an important clue

@QQ_241 Год назад

@@marktyler3381 Yes I agree, but it's baffling trying to figure out purpose to these objects. They can't be an act of folly, can they? There has to be more to these than an historic toy with their happy meal!

@marktyler3381 Год назад

@@QQ_241 We assume that because they are precise they took a lot of effort. Maybe they didn't. Slap another block of stone into the machine and a vase comes out. Vacuum vessels? Or argon/co2/inert gas food storage? Or maybe it was just a flex. In a society based around stone, they maybe knew far more about stone materials than the average person today. Maybe the difficult of manufacture for very hard mixed materials was the flex. I'm rich enough to have had 20 break before I got a good one.

@marksharman8029 10 месяцев назад

This is 'smoking gun' level investigation Ben. You have fired a shot that must in time hit the historical mark, that I have yearned for proof of, my entire life. In this age of such incomplete criticality, we now have a physical object that contains irrefutable proof of 'past' technological sophistication, that equals or in fact surpasses our most recent efforts. This rings the bell. Time gentlemen please. Drop what you are doing and pay critical attention. Step away from all distractions, this is THAT important.

@shawnharvPhotography Год назад

Long ago, in a forgotten time, there existed a great civilization that was far advanced beyond any that had come before or since. This ancient people had unlocked the secrets of science, mathematics, and technology, and they had created wonders that were beyond the imagination of any other culture. They had built cities that stretched to the sky, machines that could move mountains, and devices that could harness the power of the sun. But all of their achievements were ultimately in vain, for nature had other plans. A great ice age descended upon the land, and the skies were darkened by a massive meteor that blotted out the sun. The people of this once-great civilization were caught unprepared, and they were unable to withstand the forces of nature that raged against them. As the ice and the meteor swept across the land, destroying all in their path, the great cities of the ancient people were reduced to rubble. Their machines and devices were shattered and scattered to the winds, and their knowledge and achievements were lost to time. But there were a few objects that survived the destruction, and among them was the artifact that had been discovered and investigated by modern scientists. This object, with its intricate design and precise calculations, was a remnant of a time long gone, when a people with incredible skill, insight, and artistry had created machines and devices that were capable of performing incredible feats. As the ages passed and the ice age receded, the world slowly returned to life. New civilizations rose and fell, each leaving their own mark upon the world. But the memory of the ancient people and their incredible achievements faded with time, until they were nothing more than legends and myths. And yet, the artifact remained, a silent testament to the brilliance of a civilization that had been lost to the ages. It lay buried in the earth, waiting for a time when its secrets would once again be unlocked, and its true purpose and meaning revealed to those who were willing to delve deep into the mysteries of the past.

@dannyscotting2098 Год назад

@Aqua Fyre about as silly as imagining some artefacts may have survived and that an “ice age” involves the entire planets being covered in ice to do all the grinding!

@dannyscotting2098 Год назад

@Aqua Fyre about as silly as imagining some artefacts may NOT have survived and that an “ice age” involves the entire planets being covered in ice to do all the grinding!

@al2207 Год назад

just push your thinking ahead , alien civilization that existed some 18,000 years ago and did not goes extinct , they were forced to leave earth after a war they lost but they are still in the area , we are living on the fringe of a interstellar federation

@northofbrandon Год назад

Enki's humans were too advanced for Enlil's tastes, who brought the flood.

@sociovaria3604 Год назад

This literally made me cry. I just got so overwhelmed with emotion when I realized that Mark (and his teams) mathematical analysis just obliterated the mainstream story of human history, completely annihilated and buried it. Everyone involved in the initial scanning and measuring of this object, and the team that analyzed the mathematics behind it, should be so proud of themselves because all of you have definitively proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that somewhere in humanities very distant past there existed a civilization who were even more technologically advanced and superior to what we arrogantly call our modern civilization. They not only understood sacred geometry and the math that rules our universe, but they clearly had electricity or some power source unknown to us that was able to power advanced computers and superior mechanical devices that could perfectly craft and create the literal tens of thousands of masterpieces like the one you all analyzed. That has literally shown us that we know absolutely NOTHING about our own human history because these people were incredible and able to do things we probably cannot do today! Any mainstream scientist who refutes this analysis or says that these were made with bronze age hand tools should burn their degrees and diplomas because that is OFFENSIVE at this point, they should be absolutely THRILLED to learn that we know nothing about the amazing civilization who created these because now it's like starting from square one and there is so much to discover and learn about our human history now! Who were these people? If they were able to create tens of thousands of perfect objects like these then what other incredible mind blowing things was their society capable of doing? And probably the scariest question of all to seek the answer to is that if they were able to do these amazing things and were clearly as advanced if not superior to our modern civilization then what in the hell kind of apocalypse happened to them and their world that nearly erased them from history only leaving these objects behind? And could whatever cataclysm befell them be something that could happen again to us? So many questions, so much to discover and learn, truly this has to be the most profound discovery made in thousands of years and I'm so excited to see what new discoveries come next.

@lynnehaywood5305 Год назад

It is thought that Earth goes through a major catastrophe every 24,000 years - some worse than others. Looking at our 24,000 year clock, we are currently at twenty five to midnight when the next one comes. AN EGYPTIAN PRIEST TALKING TO SOLAN THE GREEK: 'There is no old doctrine handed down among you by ancient tradition nor any science which is hoary with age, and I will tell you the reason why. There have been and will be again many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes, the greatest having been brought about by earth-fire and inundation. Whatever happened either in your country or ours or in any other country of which we are informed, any action which is noble and great or in any other way remarkable which has taken place, all of that has been inscribed long ago in our temple records, whereas you and other nations did not keep imperishable records. And then, after a period of time, the usual inundation visits like a pestilence and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education. And thus you have to begin over again as children and know nothing of what happened in ancient times either among us or among yourselves.'

@tomcollins5112 Год назад

Or, these perfect artifacts were not made by humans. To make something like this vase, you need to have a technologically advanced civilization with computers. Where in Earth's archeological record does this exist?

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

@Aqua Fyre because we the tools required to manufacture objects like this are not found in the archeological record.

@tomcollins5112 Год назад

@Aqua Fyre Because in order to have machines capable of doing this type of work, you need to have a whole technologically advanced civilization, with mining, metallurgy, modern infrastructure, supply chains, universities... Where have we found evidence of this in the Earth's archeological record?

@TheCuriousOrbs Год назад

@@user-kn6pn1cn8m Maybe youre not undrestanding of what a "micron" is. Unless you work with items of this precision daily, it's quite hard to get your head around what working at that accuracy level means. If you want to see what humans were capable of at that time, then there is an abundance of "pottery" and earthen works complete with "faux granite" paint daubs as a means of comparing technological capacities at that time, side by side on public display. Ben has covered this many times in previous uploads. But hey, you believe whatever fits your belief narrative. It's all good, mate.

@Digeroo123 Год назад

This is very interesting because I am over 70 years old. I studied computer studies. It was very much a new subject at the time. I won a prize for producing the punch card instructions for the computer to sort 3 numbers because I needed only two cards over the known minimum number. Most computers at the time used punch cards though some used paper tape, which had a habit of splitting, so was not an advance. My husband later acquired a programmable desktop calculator, we still have it. It could drawn graphs amongst other things. And when I say desktop I mean it took the whole of the desk. I do not know at what point in time computer controlled precision tooling came in, but it was well into my life. Computers still filled whole rooms in 1977 when I had my first child. The boxes of cards for our accounting transactions were sent in a van to the computer to hopefully run our monthly bookkeeping overnight, and send mountains of paper printouts back the next day. I do hope that some one will lend you another vase to produce detailed scanning information.

@worgard3315 Год назад

I am a learned tool maker "Werkzeugmacher", worked on CNC machines of all kind, have yearlong experiences as "Mess-Techniker" and finished as CAD-Engineer. Honestly it would not be possible do produce this thing with our tech today. We used stone not much harder like this to sharpen our hard metal tools for one. To construct this you would need a good 3D design program, that we do have. We can reconstruct or retro-understand its geometry. But on what 5axis CNC milling machine would we be able to work with stone, hard like rose-granite ? With what tools ? Diamonds ? How could we make it in one run, out of a solid block, with that precision ? We could not ! No one on this planet, with our technology can. If someone says he can, please proof it ! I have 30 years experience in designing, programming and working on all sorts of metals, but even there (and we worked for ESA) we did not have that high a precision as seen on that "simple" stone vase. It is just ridiculous and certainly was never needed to be that precise. So it was just a side effect of producing it. It was easy for a civilization that came before us to create and produce things that we can not really understand yet, because we lack the technology, to understand how they did it. I will say, that if you measure more of those "vases" you will even be astounded more and more. Because i have the gut feeling they all were created and produced using the same algorithms, will show the same precision and will proof that a technology, much better than what we have now, was used to make them. Thank you for your work, all of you !

@lynnehaywood5305 Год назад

@worgard3315 Год назад

@@lynnehaywood5305 Thanks. Her work proofs that we are not at the level of our lost civs, yet. Maybe in a few thousand years.

@joshjames253 Год назад

just read through the paper and it's amazing. I'm an architect and am fond of what some call "sacred geometry". From the paper: "I really cannot imagine a more elegant and beautiful way to establish and communicate a base unit of measure. Whoever created this fascinating object wanted us to know what their measurement system looked like, and here it is. Set in stone, in the universal language of mathematics, and preserved through the ages. Absolutely incredible.". pi, the golden ratio, the speed of light......

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

The same measurements were encoded into the GREAT PYRAMID, as well.

@sunrisetacticalgear2676 Год назад

“Base radian”. I studied electronics in the Navy in the 80’s, we learned about binary, binary coded decimal, hexadecimal, base 8,16, to name a few. I have never heard base radian explained before. I believe that if we took a deep dive into learning that base system, we would more easily understand their design strategies and may even help us to understand the universe itself.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

@@sunrisetacticalgear2676 it seems to be a more "objective" form of mathematics that isn't based on an arbitrary number system.

@londonviking3801 Год назад

Mind....BLOWN. 💥 This is just so beautifully incredible - thank you Ben. I bet Randall and Graham are drinking this in with gusto. Keep uncovering our hidden distant past brilliance.

@burriedhistory Год назад

The results of this (initial) project are simply stunning! Just imagining what comes next makes me very excited. I'm glad to be a witness of this revolutionary work.

@LurifaxDK Год назад

I watched this, then read the article. Went a day and re read it and I'm absolutely mind blown over this. This is undisputable facts that ANYONE can replicate. How anyone can say that these things was made with copper chisels and hammers and still claim to have scientific intergrity is beyond me.

@user-vl8ke7rk3k 11 месяцев назад

How are archeologists not embarrassed. The evidence is overwhelming that there was an advanced civilization

@twonumber22 9 месяцев назад

@@user-vl8ke7rk3k Because there's literally zero evidence of this supposed civ.

@AustinKoleCarlisle 9 месяцев назад

@@twonumber22 yet we're literally finding evidence in these vases which "date to the Oldest Kingdoms" in Egypt, yet they were never able to be replicated again despite the Egyptians best attempts as evidenced by their crude alabaster vases from the later Kingdoms.

@twonumber22 9 месяцев назад

@@AustinKoleCarlisle This vase has no provenance. And even if it did, it's just a typical stone vase.

@AustinKoleCarlisle 9 месяцев назад

@@twonumber22 perhaps you should actually, you know, watch the video to understand why the provenance issue really doesn't matter because we would have extreme difficulty using modern machines creating this vase today in something uniform like aluminum, let alone in something composite like GRANITE.

@StirlingLighthouse Год назад

It seems that all of this incredible information only focuses on the exterior, not even looking at the thickness of the walls and the interior of the vase! This is simply incredible. Thank you so much Ben ❤

@joeboy024 Год назад

Yes! I was so stoked for a new video from you, man. You’re work is ahead of it’s time. Thank you

@eclypse1259 Год назад

It’s blatantly apparent that these ancient objects are very special, especially when you see it side by side with an artifact that was really made by hand. Public opinion about these artifacts is slowly coming around. Great piece!

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

it's really remarkable that we were not even able to fully appreciate the precision of these objects until the past few years using precision computer imagery. I say the next thing to be analyzed after these vases should be the polygonal masonry that spans the entire world. in particular, the polygonal stone walls that perfectly interlock and curve in three dimensions. we know this because we are able to see between the stones where past earthquakes have slightly separated the walls, and the stones perfectly conform to the opposite face throughout the depth of the joint, despite curves or angles. this is simply IMPOSSIBLE to achieve by hand, and was likely created using the same technology as this vase. we'll see in due time.

@toddtrillo7445 Год назад

Truly fascinating, anyone with a engineering, machinist, design background understand the gravity of this object that most people would look right past and not understand the mind bending implications behind it , thank you Ben for this gripping update

@El-Studerino Год назад

I have been eagerly awaiting your next video, and you didn't disappoint. My mind is blown! I have some basic knowledge of the design and manufacturing processes discussed in the paper, and the fact that this was achieved so long ago really does raise a lot of questions. One day you will be recognised for your great work alongside Chris Dunn and Flinders Petrie. Keep up the great work Ben. Already waiting for your next vid.

@fastfokus5623 Год назад

Ben, it would be amazing, even necessary, to try to replicate this vase in granite using the best CNC machine available today. And do a documentary about it. Do you think it's gonna happen ?

@LBCAndrew Год назад

I honestly don't think we could create a similar vase out of granite with such precision on modern CNC machines.

@MichaelWilson-dm4gz Год назад

Not a very educated man but when I saw these vases and the statues I knew none of what was being said was true. If you look at the mud jars in Egypt that definitely made by the ancient Egyptions and you look at these vases, there's no doubt that two different people's made them. It's silly to think this vase was made by hand. Any machinist can look at this and tell it wasn't made with chisel and hammer. Good work man. Ty

@ryanflaherty9365 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for all that you do Ben. Ive been very interested in this subject and you are blowing the lid off it. Please keep up the great work

@kevinlucko2902 Год назад

Astounding work Ben!!! It is truly an honor to have you present research on all of the topics such as these. Your colleagues also deserve their own praise in the work and dedication it must take to bring this info to us all! Words can barely emphasize our thanks...(speechless)

@baze3SC Год назад

True, however in order to achieve that level of precision you need precise bearings etc. It's also not easy to cut granite, maybe the third or fourth hardest mineral if we use the Mohs scale.

@gobl-analienabductedbyhuma5387 Год назад

Ben, one day (maybe only in 200 years) you will be awarded kind of Nobel prize for having done this amazing job with this undisputable results.

@UnchartedX Год назад

its not my work - I'm just reporting :) All credit to Mark and the team doing the actual work

@falconquest2068 Год назад

@@UnchartedX Okay, let's make it a Pulitzer then! 😉

@gobl-analienabductedbyhuma5387 Год назад

@UnchartedX yes, but it seems that it was you pushing for the initial scan work and put everything and everyone together. This is sooo HUGH! If the vase is indeed old and not a modern one, this work changes completely and totally history as it is presented to date.

@gobl-analienabductedbyhuma5387 Год назад

@@falconquest2068 agreed! 😅

@mikeyrocks8664 Год назад

I saw you on Rogan!! Your work is amazing and I hope it reaches all the people! It’s truly so interesting to think that our distance ancestors were far more advanced than we thought. Which, to me, isn’t even an argument after these findings. Thank you for your work 🤘🏽

@neurotransmi77Er Год назад

Anytime I pop up one of your videos I'm pretty sure I'm going to learn something new in this obsession of mine and probably many others. Great work! I wish we could come up with something we could comprehend before the inevitable.

@tjmiller9567 Год назад

Im so glad i discovered your channel. Between you, Randall, Graham, and the snake brothers my eyes are opened. Thank you for the great content. Good job on rogan. You need to do one by yourself. Saw you on Konkrete. Awesome one. Keep it up. You are winning

@LifeMyWay007 Год назад

It would be VERY interesting to see what an expert in 5-axis machining could make using the reverse engineered plans. Even if not attempted in Granite, how accurate of a duplicate can be manufactured out of, machinist's choice, metal or polymer that is hard enough to take high accuracy machining and consistent enough that, unlike Granite, the material itself does not increase the chance of errors... VOLUNTEERS PLEASE???????

@UnchartedX Год назад

yes I very much hope someone does try to machine this, out of whatever material.

@SiegfriedSTM Год назад

On the manufacturing part they are exaggerating. Modern tooling would have no problem duplicating the vase. Sadly the channel often overshoots the goal and veers off into conspiracy theories. Which isn't to say that they are onto something when it comes to the fact that the vase was likely designed with radians as a basis. And transferring the design to tooling would have required machinery a little more complicated than what historians imagine right now. A computer doesn't have to be Si-chips. It could have been a clockwork device like the Antikythera mechanism.

@falconquest2068 Год назад

@@SiegfriedSTM Sure would like to see this made out of granite to the precision of this object. Good luck!

@ferdis7 Год назад

@TITANSofCNC Help? :)

@j.sarnak1391 Год назад

@@SiegfriedSTM You obviously have no knowledge about 5 axis machining. If it is no problem, as you state there will be loads of examples of granite vases and/or decorative pieces. We know humans love to see granite countertops in their homes so run off and find me some thin walled machined granite pieces to buy in the ikea store. I will wait till you get back

@arsey5118 Год назад

I was discussing this vase with a family member who is a mechanical engineer. His current job is programming CNC machine tools which produce aerospace parts and prototypes. He told me, in absolutely no uncertain terms, that the vase would be nearly impossible to replicate to the same degree of precision in a material such as aluminum. He can't fathom what kind of machine could produce these results in natural stone.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

whatever tool created this had to have used an impossibly hard cutting tool bit, or the cutting depth was computer controlled.

@lynnehaywood5305 Год назад

@itsmeadude460 Год назад

@@lynnehaywood5305 Actually, no - it is not. I remember stumbling across her on that channel 2-3 years ago. I was impressed by her patience and determination to get the first vessel done (sticking at it for 4 months 5-8hrs/day 5d/w). Apart from her work, the whole thing was a disaster though. They had her copy a vase from 1st dynasty using tools taken from a relief dating - tmk - to the 18th dynasty. And it was marble they had her work on. So, in essence they proved that the Egyptians really could work marble with the tools depicted in reliefs from 18th dynasty. Well, sort of - a piece actually broke off and was glued back on - kudos to at least admitting it ;). So, not really a surprise. Then they said, ok - marble's 'soft', lets do the same in diorite. Set up live-streams (which I occasionally would drop into, but after the 3rd change in URL, I lost track and interest) to sort of give the impression of reliable accountability. Well, to my knowledge, they never completed it. There was an update, rough 2 years ago, showing how far they got (after 4 months?), but silence since then... They call it science - but no mention of tool marks (yet alone tolerances) in the original nor the intended goal of the whole operation. So, IMHO, they (rather) didn't bother to examine the original (too) closely. Bottom line - especially given the recent measurements UnCharted-X has provided, the only goal achievable for that experiment can be summed up to 'make an object that looks similar to the original in diorite'. So, in essence doing the same the Egyptians did - seeing something pretty cool and doing a pity job on copying it with the tools available to them (in the 18th. dyn).

@68arpilot75 Год назад

This is amazing in itself, but the fact that so many were produced with this precision is another thing. Great work guys!

@CexeeScope Год назад

i didn't realize the vase was so small. that almost makes it even more impressive

@Alex-tu9bh Год назад

Perhaps made by a smaller in size to us race/alien

@worgard3315 Год назад

@@Alex-tu9bh Those "vases" come in all sizes and shapes. Almost 50.000 of them were found under Sakkara.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

@@worgard3315 sadly, who knows how many are being destroyed at this moment in response to the increased public awareness?

@typh00n777 4 месяца назад

@@AustinKoleCarlisleif i would be the in charge of keeping this "secret" i would have this video removed instead of destroying every ancient vase on the planet, but maybe thats just me

@AustinKoleCarlisle 4 месяца назад

@@typh00n777 did you see what they did to the material that was removed from underneath the Step Pyramid?

@douglascain6404 Год назад

Ben, all of the textbooks on ancient history will need to be "revised" because of your outstanding work! Bravo Zulu.

@user-pr5go2uh2u Год назад

I always remember this quote when watching your videos - "when you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

@jaycarey3863 Год назад

That video was very emotional for me after seeing these objects in person in Egypt I knew how important they are but still underestimated there importance! Thank you for this video and everyone who put there time into this effort!

@DilbertMuc Год назад

Finally someone did the effort to translate the geometry of those objects into mathematical functions. When Ben from UnchartedX showed the huge single-piece temple columns that were laying around it occurred to be that the top "flower" that goes to the ceiling is not just a nice ornament but resembles the mathematical transcendental function of the "Familia Sacrada" in Barcelona. It would be good to measure those huge columns as well to find out whether they were also produced by Turing machines. So far we know that the huge statue of Ramses II is perfectly machined, like by a huge CNC mill.

@cryptokev1759 Год назад

You have hard mathematical proof of high tech precision that can be analysed by any academic. These conclusions will form a growing body (as more get analysed) of scientific evidence that you have the smoking gun of proof for an older high tech civilization. Classical social paradigms of history/archaeology that are still being defended will not hold against this evidence! You are truly onto something amazing.

@UnchartedX Год назад

Thankyou!

@kyletornow5781 Год назад

Thank you for looking into this and bringing to light the questions that need to be asked once such high level accuracy of vessel manufacturing is revealed.

@Silg2000 Год назад

Future work!? Can't wait. Please continue to seek out more examples and further analysis. Can't wait.

@ErvinandMFantasyFootball Год назад

Yeah around 24:20, you’re talking about when we have to change the carbide tool tip for a new blade. The lathe is fixed. The item (vase) is fixed into the lathe. The lathe cutting arm is fixed. The only thing that will change without calibration is the tip of lathe cutting arm, that holds the cutting tool. In today’s modern turning this is practically the only variable and tale-tale sign of production. The carbide tool tip is just that, a tungsten carbide blade that’s only a few mms in its dimensions and is fastened down or loosened from the cutting arm so that it can be resharpened or replaced. Typically it’s held in place with a number of set screws. It is here where we can have variables in our precision that will deviate from the lathes perfect digital design file provided. Even those these tool tips are precision made, they have deviations from one to another, and these imperfections lead to inaccuracies and errors (though usually not with the eye, rather if analyzed with a computer.) of course if it isn’t fastened down exactly how the previous blade was fastened, that is the same tightness etc. then you will also have these inevitable inaccuracies. So again, it’s amazing that it’s more likely it wasn’t done in one go, but rather they had a method that hid/omitted these inaccuracies. And while these inaccuracies exist in our present machining today, again… you can’t tell, not by eye, or wobble, you need computer analysis to detect. So yeah, they went out of their way to shape and calibrate these vases specifically to follow these perfect mathematical designs (the radial whatever formula.) Insane.

@jimgriffiths9071 Год назад

Bravo Ben! So now we have one bullet for the army of truth. A unrefutable data set and rational analysis indicating beyond doubt the level of sophistication this lost culture was capable of. Also definitive proof of how their mathematics were based, which is equally illuminative. This is so key. I knew a long time ago you were the guy that could bring this together. So, heartfelt thanks.....for finally.....finally forging our first bullet!

@travisnapier2693 Год назад

We’ll get ready to get disarmed all together because there is no proof this isn’t a modern vase made with modern cnc machines.

@johannjohann6523 Год назад

After creating the vase, there is still the problem of hollowing it out to be functional as a vase. If I'm getting this right, the person who created this vase wanted to create the "perfect" vase. And the perfect vase will incorporate sacred geometry, the golden ratio, Pi, the Flower of life etc. And if you can create the perfect vase, can it be said you are then "perfect"? Meaning Godlike to the regular folk?

@howinteresting2 Год назад

Good inference... back to religion and 'he/she who holds [magical] power'

@TheSMEAC Год назад

Hey brother, I sent this along to Jim Tolpin and George Walker. They’re two woodworkers who’ve studied and written pretty extensively regarding ancient design, symphonic parity, and explanations on ancient and classic design. I hope they look into this and re-ping for you the cursory conclusions; ultimately it would expand your reach to many others who’ve studied their books or taken classes from them. 👍

@quentin2578 Год назад

Would be lovely to hear what their thoughts on this piece are. Don't hesitate sharing it here!

@MeridithQueenOfSpades Год назад

Best video to date. The amount of time, effort and research you put into this video and others isn't unnoticed. Keep up the great work!

@2weeknotice Год назад

Hey Ben, the object deserves a name. There will be many others studied in this way, hopefully, but this is the first and should have a direct and definite way to reference it within the community.

@Jeanne6OH Год назад

Thoth's Grail.

@andymccracken4046 Год назад

Trollshafter

@AustinKoleCarlisle 11 месяцев назад

Dick Chicken.

@robertoarmstrong7317 11 месяцев назад

The Uncharted Vase

@misewixe2777 Год назад

Great composition Ben! Keep up the work you do and thank you for your time and effort for sharing it all.

@TheCuriousOrbs Год назад

As soon as I downloaded and opened the STEP file, I was hoping some clever cookie was going to run this sort of advanced mathematical analysis on it. Well done to all involved, this is history shaping research.

@sydneysimon7112 Год назад

This is a fantastic video! Thank you Ben for all the work your doing and for all the people your getting together to make a difference in our understanding of humanity’s history

@anonony9081 Год назад

This is paradigm shifting work. On your last video I saw on a certain Reddit that has a lot of debunkers that the only thing they could do was claim that this isn't really an ancient vase, it has to be a replica. I think that's an admission....

@davidwebster7179 Год назад

This is the most interesting evidence I have ever heard linking to previous old civilisations and their technology. Mind blowing!

@wallsgreebo8352 Год назад

This is incredible. I look forward to more results from other objects and also to someone attempting to make a similar object from granite using typical modern technology to see if they meet the same level of 'perfection'. Keep up the amazing work!🙏🏼

@ControlledDemolition Год назад

Yes, there was necessarily some machine involvement where the program is written before the execution. This is what I have thought since seeing these artifacts, and also some things I saw that were in Peru.

@UnchartedX Год назад

I agree, and have long suspected something like this - but now we have some pretty solid, repeatable, and public proof for it.

@lynnehaywood5305 Год назад

@@UnchartedX - Yes I have thought so too. These pots are one of the main examples I have always raised as evidence for a civilisation lost to a catastrophe. BUT don't forget to check out Olga Vdovina who is currently making one of these pots by hand and filming the entire process. It will take her at least six months. Let us see how precise the measurements are.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

Polygonal masonry stone walls that interlock and *perfectly mate in three dimensions* is the next domino to fall. Oh yeah, and this technology spans the ENTIRE globe. Unless people are going to say those are "modern" fakes as well, LOL.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

@@lynnehaywood5305 I wouldn't hold my breath on that. those Russian "debunking" videos rely on careful editing and fraud.

@keirankainth Год назад

You’ve more chance a God waved his sceptre and stated “let their be a granite vase” than ancients having digital computers. We’re way of the mark thinking with our current beliefs. They had “magic” that could create these, not computers. We can’t fathom what type of magic they had so we default to our paradigm of thinking - CAD machines. We’re way off the mark.

@royanders945 Год назад

We are lucky to have intellectual people like you to make such astounding discoveries. The implications to what we know about our own history are mind boggling. Thanks!

@Saki630 Год назад

what discovery bro? This is a bad argument proving nothing. There is nothing special about the vase because using the same steps they could analyze a modern vase and find the same conclusion. You just need to pick the right vase, the same as they did here, something that matches there ideal outcome.

@motorsport32cw Год назад

Very impressive reveiw of that vase. Finally some real proof of machining techniqes used. People forget that vase would have started from a solid piece of granite. It still blows my mind the idea that we must have been way more advanced before something wiped us out.

@appropos Год назад

But why? Why so many? They could have made (and probably did) lighter, more usable and just as beautiful metal or other vases with simpler dimensions for all of their actual needs. Did they launch an all-out program, only at a time when it was already clear what would happen, to leave behind specifically objects, in large enough volume and distribution, that would not be melted down but rather used for low wear and tear decorative or ceremonial purposes by any surviving and ignorant future generations until a day like this? To send a message: We were here. Remember us.

@thegreatbloviator6817 Год назад

I think this is a very likely explanation

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

They did this with polygonal stone walls that span the entire globe. I'm not just talking about stacked stone walls, but walls that fit together perfectly in three dimensions and couldn't have been the result of trial-and-error fitting like the later inhabitants of those sites used.

@rolsen1304 Год назад

Yeah it might be a time capsule. A warning about the long cycles of catastrophe impacting humanity.

@lynnehaywood5305 Год назад

I do believe we are survivors of a past civilisation. If a catastrophe was due now, we would store many things undergound and hope to survive by tunnelling underground ourselves. Many stone containers survived to this day simply because they are made of stone. Some of the cataclysm survivors probably used some of the pots but I doubt there were many survivors - and who needs a pretty pot when what you actually want are knives and tools! However, people today tare capable of doing amazing things ... An interesting experiment is currently occurring in Russia which you might want to follow up: a lady called Olga Vdovina makes stone vases by hand. it takes at least six months to make one. Olga is now filming the process as she creates a diorite vase.

@itsmeadude460 Год назад

@chrisfarrell7309 11 месяцев назад

I do not know if this question was posed, but has anyone considered the ambient temperature while the measurements were taken? Because we are talking about such tight tolerances in the construction of the vase, it could be whatever ambient temperature was in the workshop where this vase was created could make a difference when measuring the vase in a different temperature. If the vase was created in a room where the temperature was a steady X degrees and the measurement was taken at lets say in a warmer temperature the vases measurements will be slightly off due to the expansion and contraction of all known materials from differences in temperature. Therefore, this vase may be more accurately created then measured as astounding as this may sound. Thank you.

@davidpalk5010 9 месяцев назад

Pro metrologists will have ensured temperature stability, and will have allowed the sample and instruments to "season" for true consistency.

@bladetj Год назад

Superb work Ben and Mark. Its fascinating. I would love for somebody with a superior machine to try and make this same vase and then compare the two.

@AJ-hg2ki Год назад

This is an amazing mystery, for me there are only two possibilities: either a previous human civilization existed of which these are the only remaining evidence, or this planet was visited at some point in the distant past by aliens. Either explanation is mind-blowing.

@jellyrollthunder3625 10 месяцев назад

no advanced, global civilization could have existed during the last ice age without leaving behind the unmistakable signature of GENETIC MIXING in our ice age human genome. The only genetic evidence we have from that time period indicates that we were still living in small, genetically isolated groups i.e. hunter-gatherers. This is also what we continue to find in the archaeological strata corresponding to that time period. In addition to all of that damning counter-evidence, it's would be outrageously unlikely that any such civilization could have sustained their populations before the domestication of agriculture which is a fundamental prerequisite which made advanced civilizations even possible.

@freefunnyclips2748 10 месяцев назад

@@jellyrollthunder3625 Stone lasts forever.

@Paul-ou1rx Год назад

I'm sure the ancient Egyptians were equally impressed by the precision.

@brakyosaurus Год назад

No1 believes they were black so no1 will believe they also had tech or machines though

@user-vl8ke7rk3k 11 месяцев назад

Yes ice age legacy

@nickjenkins6905 Год назад

Another mind blown. Fantastic series of videos Ben - you're really pushing back the frontiers of knowledge, and the implications are really disturbing. I'm not sure this object can actually be recreated by a subtractive process to this level of tolerance using current technology, yet it was apparently mass-produced over 5000 years ago

@joshberna5801 Год назад

This left me literally speechless... The geometry and precision is mind boggling. I was especially blown away with the analogy given at the end, comparing the vase with the golden plaque sent on Voyager. Just imagine that humanity had just became able to measure this type of precision IN OUR LIFETIME!! That means that for all of human history, this was just a vase. Now, for the first time ever, we have the tools and technology to appreciate it for what it is! Insane!

@TheRealStructurer Год назад

Fantastic Ben 👍🏻 Taking the channel to a new level. Well done! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

@jimbailey490 Год назад

Ben! Thank you for your hard work in making these breakthroughs and bringing these truths to light. This sort of thing I find fascinating. I would listen to this information regardless of who was presenting it. That said, your knowledge, dedication and sincere passion actually make your presentations incredibly enjoyable. Thank you again and please keep up the awesome work!

@sirdaemon5338 Год назад

This is amazing. I hope you get the chance to do this type of analysis on museum pieces.

@tomaszst Год назад

Simply WOW. The implication of this discovery is larger than anything we have discovered about our past since the formulation of the theory of evolution.

@AustinKoleCarlisle Год назад

the theory of evolution is false. modern humans are a byproduct of hybridization.

@bswantner2 Год назад

Just staggering. Bro. You're the real champion, Ben. Thank you for the wonderful results of all your hard work, consistency, and network of curios and talented amigos.

@cdnkitesurfer 8 месяцев назад

It would be fascinating to hear what a present day precision stone artisan would have to say on what method could be used to first cut/shape granite and then take that rough cut all the way thru to a high polish. The levels of accuracy that are being shown here are at the FINISHED step. The other area the boggles my mind is the tool & work holding that would be required to finish the interior of these vases. Truly remarkable work Ben, I appreciate your tenacity to continue following the facts and you're own intuition and then having an excellent ability to communicate this information to people. Thanks!

@Ultiman78 Год назад

As someone who works on Cannon steppers I am glad the data is given in microns (micrometers) instead of inches like the last videos 😂. Really helps you grasp just how precise this thing is and is comparable to specifications we have for tools used in the development and creations of microchips.

@LBCAndrew Год назад

Machinists tend to deal with thousands of an inch, which is why the other videos use that unit of measurement.

@dubselectorr345 4 месяца назад

Old Cannon Steppers? Boy I don't miss working on that dinosaur. What models do you work on?

@TheCuriousOrbs Год назад

One of the most compelling hints into technolgies employed back then was the "liquid-like" polishing coumpound that had evidently dripped from one of the granite boxes in Saqqara. Since seeing shown that, I cant help but wonder if that (whatever the substance was) was a fundamental element in their machining "toolbox".

@lynnehaywood5305 Год назад

I do believe we are survivors of a past civilisation. However, people are capable of doing amazing things ... An interesting experiment is currently occurring in Russia which you might want to follow up: a lady called Olga Vdovina makes stone vases by hand. it takes at least six months to make one. Olga is now filming the process as she creates a diorite vase. Regarding chemicals in ancient Egypt which was previously called Khem (Chemistry) Geoffrey Drumm of America is suggesting the pyramids were actually chemical processing plants. Geoffs argument, together with data from samples analysed by a team of scientists, is very convincing. This not only means the pyramids were repurposed as tombs (we think), but it also means that ancient Egyptians before that, had chemicals - possibly even chemicals that melted stone? The Red Pyramid inside, smells of Ammonia and this is because its original purpose was to produce aqueous ammonia solution.

@phasA100 Год назад

You are the Precision-Guy. Geoffrey Drumm is the Chem-Guy. I want you all working together based on pure evidence! Awesome work! Thank you!

@AustinKoleCarlisle 8 месяцев назад

Keep at it, Ben! You guys are doing amazing work and I wish I could be a part of it.

@ericbarnett6771 Год назад

That no other vases of these exact dimensions have thus far been discovered, it would be safe to assume that whatever machine was used to fabricate it, that machine could be easily recalibrated to create a different design. Truly fascinating.

@AndyBsUTube Год назад

gIven the huge variety if these items ~50K known to exist this seems very likely - there are too many to be individual one-offs.

@johnholmes4632 Год назад

One thing is making the vase with ancient tools, but how they removed the granit inside, is beyond me.

@elrickinslayer5821 Год назад

This series of videos is totally engrossing and,as you say the rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper. Like you,I believe that these artefacts are very much older than as described by the accepted narrative. The data speaks volumes across the millennia and should give us all pause for thought. Keep up the great work,Ben. You and your fellow investigators will,I believe, be shown to have brought a light to our civilization that has been hidden in plain sight since time immemorial. The people responsible for these and other remarkable works of precision are speaking to us loud and clear.

@peternincompoop1823 Год назад

The radians talk really took me back to high school calculus, this stuff blows my mind!

@stevecharles7967 Год назад

This is astounding evidence. I am hoping that more artifacts will be analysed in this way, so evidence can build and be noticed and lead to a paradigm shift.

@ttelan Год назад

I am from Thailand. And I am intrigued by the efforts and methodology your team use on to tackle this subject matter. It is the definitely the right way to go. Thai people should also be aware of this findings as well… My question to you (I am sure that many people have asked) I would like to know your definite plan of testing a few other object, maybe about two or three more to compare the results … Do you have exact planning for that? ❤🇹🇭 Looking to support your efforts.

@kroon275 Год назад

Such an inoccuous little piece of work but has such mathematical and engineering significance and mystery. Wow

@danielweisman4009 Год назад

I never comment on youtube videos but I have to now. I have progressively been drawn into this subject of ancient advanced civilizations but along the way I have had a spiritual shift happening and have been drawing and meditating with the sacred symbols. Ive had a profound connection with it as I know so many others do. I just have to say thankyou for all your hard work and efforts into all your videos this is absolutely incredible. I bet singing into them would change your life. Im a big fan of your videos and enjoy listening to you talk! Thankyou

@SpaceisAce Год назад

Absolutely loved this video - and of course.. the voyager disc analogy was 👌

@jesperg Год назад

Great video! I have been reading comments and of course there are many opinions and it is healthy to be skeptical when the claims are as audacious as in this case. But what stands out for the is the suggestions for future work. All the people involved want to scan more vases and especially "official" vases from museums. To me, if this was to be a fraud, these people would not be especially eager to do more work. But they are all about to build up a "body of work" with more and better scans, more mathematical analysis, peer reviews etc. This says a lot about this initial work.

@hardway_6823 10 месяцев назад

Ben the work you are doing is invaluable and incontrovertible and sooner or later these bullheaded 'academics' will HAVE to shut up and start noticing these discoveries you've been making. All these theories and explanations that have been accepted for so many years, and upon which the establishment has been so insistent on, are going to begin to crumble and these people - like it or not - are going to HAVE to shut up and start considering the alternatives. Beautiful work Ben! Keep at it!