Was Itachi Actually EVIL?!? 

But he isn't a good guy 😭 he killed his entire clan good guys don't do that no matter the reason he's a terrible person and has a god complex

@@samanthaedwards6154I mean that’s your opinion

@@samanthaedwards6154he was the turning point of the war arc

@@dman5849 yea he was he also admitted he went about it the wrong way and should of trusted Sasuke , orochimaru also helped

Obito killed the defenseless, like the women, children, and elderly. So that makes it a little better for Itachi lol

😂👌🏾

And then Tsunade coincidentally also has Dementia, and forgets everything Itachi tells her.

@@Kiroana ah mean she’s like 50+ as well

@@Kiroana or Itachi got fed up with Hiruzen disregarding or forgetting his reports and quit sending them!

Sleepy Hiruzen

I would like to think in the bingo book it mentions he owns one of the swords but everyone who has ever saw it died.

Usually Samehada drains their chakra so no one's left alive to report about it- and if your in the ninja world, no chakra = death

@@andreimaxwell4455Swords in general and especially Samehada is not exactly ideal for concealed carry. So it's not like you see it, you're dead.

​@@atklm1most of the 7 ninja swordsmen were killed by Might Dai and all of their abilities were recorded, and sometime after the Mist recovered all the fallen swordsmen's blades. Maybe the Samehada user survived and escaped thus his abilities weren't recorded. But This Is All Headcanon.

@@scargreatness8457 I don't really buy it. Kakashi knew it, the whole Leaf should've known it.

I agree.

1. " have a strong believe that Itachi was retconned when Kishimeto was writing Shipudden." where tf was he retconned a retcon would be perhaps stating that itachi didnr commit the crimes or is extremely broken from the sins he has commited or something like that . but itachi remains a comically bad person to the end the guy killed Uchiha oldies and babies alike has "no regrets" and says that the fate was deserved until the uchiha didnt "change" - and how 8 y/o sasuke couldve changed them? he does say he is a failure - and thats because he is but the "failure" is about him not being able to turn sasuke into a konoha bootlicker , he says "you ended up a terrorist" i mean for a second lets assume that itachi actually didnt regret killing uchiha babies but alteast had a soft spot for sasuke how tf could he not regret torturing his baby brother to the point where he goes into coma (at ages 8 and 13 ) and inflicting so puch pain on him , or think of brainwashing him. 2. "I don’t think Kishimeto intended for Itachi to be a spy when he first wrote his character" I doubt , he is shown to be an Anbu - the anbu special militia used for purposes like this only , although he is a pathetic spy who got to the anbu position simply because he provided valuable info. on the uchiha ( for which i dont think he had much work to do since he was the chiefs son and future heir and probably got first row seats in meetings ) and he is so comically bad at it that he almost blows his own cover by hitting the uchiha cops who came to enquire him .lulz . since the anbu are handpicked by the hokage his pathetic skills dont bar him from joining the anbu . and gosh i hate his retconning bs soooo much its so infuriating first wankers' worhsip the ground itachi walks on and then when itachi comes out as incosistent from their POV they start blaming the author who created the charehcter himself !!

@@hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh236 Itachi only kills the combatants of the uchiha village. Obito killed the non-combatants (children, women, etc.).

@@mag51284 where tf do u wankers get this info.? Definitely not given in the manga , not said by obito not said by itachi or anyone so Definitely NOT canon . Shinden ? In itachi shinden book of darkness it's explicitly mentioned how itachi killed killed yashiro uchihas entire family ( which consisted of his parents - oldies, his wife- woman ? , a child not older than sasuke ) before cruelly torturing yashiro ( yes cruel even by itachi standards) .so its curious to me how u have not only invented an itachi who never existed but also given him attributes that directly contradict canon and then u sit and wonder why his charechter comes off as inconsistent

@@mag51284 Obito killed the Uchiha police force. In the anime at least

What ep?

@@Sixth_god_of_heaven :clueless:

aizen?

​@@Sixth_god_of_heaven it's a joke itachi never said that 😂

@@user-monke_D_goofy 💀 I

holy lord i never thought of that .and by the fact that he made izumi live her whole lie in tsukuyomi he could easily do that and nobody would know

​@@nah_mate6914ayo ayo i actually never thought about that

Bro mindblown you've thought of that. Literally no excuse why he hadn't passed more info to other ninjas

@@Jawn009 well he could of had a fear lf it going around, but its still stupid, he can day it to the hokage or jiraya

He did the tsukyomi to Kakashi, who he had no reason not to trust. That would have been a great time to divulge all of the secrets he had instead of torturing Kakashi.

Dark 💀

Oh... Whatever day that is should be an international day of mourning. We lost 2 of the most wholesome ninja from the leaf that day ;-; (feel free to debate me on Itachi being wholesome)

YOU FUCKING LIE! Right? Like is that canon?

Kishimoto 🗿

We got a date?

That's so smart, it would literally solve so many plot holes surrounding the akatsuki

That's smart. Nice.

This needs more up votes because kitsmoto had a plan for them but the editors told to not do it to not make naruto as long

Wouldn’t really make that much of a difference

Lol Jiraiya would be like “what’s pain?”

Years of infiltration... one note. Yeah, itachi failed at everything

@@donovan4222 Oh a guy wit rinngeanan and girl named Konan, who loves origami? Totally does not remind me of some people I trained for 3 years.

I've always liked to believe that Itachi was controlling the woman under genjutsu to pass Jiraiya information. But, you would think a spy would be able to pass on information more than just that one time.

Then why didn't Obito tip off the Akatsuki that Itachi was a spy.

No😂

​@@Hosanki Dumb question.

@@Hosanki because he was fine with going aIong with the deaI du

Konoha got destroyed tho...

And shoves a mangekyou sharingan down his throat. Naruto could’ve potentially awaken rinnegan maybe

​@@dman5849I was thinking the same thing.

​@@dman5849what's the process to awaken it?

@@scargreatness8457 Basically, having a Sharingan and Hashirama cells.

@@igorporfiirio4915 right. Thanks

Is that fun?

@@daltonbuchholz5061It’s an absolute rave

No they weren’t wtf. Minato was first. Itachi got second, Sakura got 3rd. Jiraiya wasn’t even top 10. Why lie?

@@henryriasco5857 you're talking about that poll on which character should get a spinoff. I'm talking about a much earlier character popularity poll.

I’d assume he figured it out in the shippuden timeline

​@@andrizzle5887itachi was never a spy kishi just put things in manga and anime to brainwash us if itachi was a spy hiruzen would know kakashi and others would know how to beat akatsuki members instead shikamaru and asuma had to learn about hiding when asuma was already cursed bad writing kishi on itachi as a spy

No Obito and Itachi made a deal. So Itachi death was contract void

@@godserena6059right but he waited YEARS based on what. A deal? He knew the consequences if he crossed itachi. He was a deceiver, a liar, a manipulator but he did not want to cross that man

@@huckleberrydew5079 Nope Obito made a deal with Itachi and he waited until that contract was voided. Until you give me precise manga chapter and page number that clearly states that he was terrified of Itachi I’m going to take the novel interpretation between the two relationships

@@godserena6059 so your saying a man that had no problem betraying anyone he wanted just suddenly became a man of his word? Seems a bit far fetched. That being said I don’t the he was ever terrified of itachi. I think it was more along the lines of obito knew he could beat itachi but it wouldn’t be without cost, and I don’t think obito wanted to pay the price.

​@@godserena6059like the deal he made with madara that he never planned to fulfill

Lol, so maybe he only ever gave any details to the third so when the third died all of his spy work died with him and because the third didn't tell anyone for some dumb reason Konoha was left totally unprepared as if they never even had a spy in the Akatsuki 😂

The thing is he could have just gave them information from while being anonymous. He doesnt have to say its him. He is a master of genjutsu he could figure out a way to to tell them without giving up its him. Doesnt even have to be anything about the Uchiha just give info on other members powers at least.

It's a huge plothole by Kishimoto tbh.

@@nearthe2nd Exactly 😂

He should and could have told Kakashi at least some. Kakashi kept Naruto’s secret, Itachi knew him well, and all he had to do was tell him while under a genjutsu

Because it was a personal secret. He wanted to die with the secret without only him and Obito knowing. His only reason for living was for Sasuke to kill him thinking he’s a villain so why tell Kakashi who is one of the closest people to Sasuke. He wanted to die a villain more than anything he even put Amaterasu in Sasukes eye because he knew Obito knew his secret and might tell Sasuke.

​@Beanz356 You saying that makes Itachi sound like a selfish, manipulative sociopath. He severely underestimated Sasuke's intelligence and ability to find out what really happened. So he didn't even achieve his goal. Naruto fixed everything for him.

@@She_namedme_DJ yes, Itachi admits that he treated Sasuke as a kid all the way up to his death during the war arc when he goes after Kabuto and Sasuke pursues him

​@@TheWarmaker01So what was the point? He could've at least killed some Akatsuki members and kill himself that way. This would've made it safer for Sasuke and the world in general.

​@@She_namedme_DJdidn't itachi say that he even tried to manipulate him with the kotoamatsukami he even said dont say he was perfect he knows he fucked up but his only regret was telling sauske nothing

Nah lol. Kisame would've fought him or told. He was almost certainly a [ineffective] stopgate for itachi being a double agent.

we cant say for sure tho and akatsuki would be suspicious of itachi if they found kisame dead

Yeah, he was truly an idiot.

Really that changes little over what he should have still been saying. Someone was almost certainly going to the Rain at some point

Jiraya would not have needed to go to the rain or he would have gone with plenty of info if Itachi did his job.

He stopped the reanimation tho. Could’ve just sat and watch Nagato rape Naruto and killer bee. He gave Naruto the ultimate defense against sasuke and possibly Tobi too. Could’ve killed kakashi. Kakashi literally asks himself in the anime and manga as he lays on the ground after surviving tsukoyomi why doesn’t itachi just kill him now

​​@@dman5849He almost did kill Kakashi. Kakashi only survived because Tsunade was there. And for that last part is because he was evil and enjoyed doing evil things before he was retconed.

@@dman5849 I get that by the end of the series, he’s written to be “heroic,” I’m talking about how many things he did earlier on that make no sense with how we’re expected to believe he always was. Things like abducting the Three-Tails and torturing his kid brother.

@@MothsAudioandVideos I’m saying it makes no sense that he didn’t kill kakashi. It made no sense to kakashi himself. If he were truly evil he would’ve killed him asuma and kurenai. Asuma and kureani were literally standing there with their eyes closed. He was acting evil but wasn’t cold blooded at all

​@@dman5849yea no cold blooded guy like itachi murders his whole clan you are right. Lol

Bingo

your theory is so absurd that i dont even know where to begain 😷 1. "Itachi was providing information to Hiruzen, who kept it to himself because he couldn't tell anybody else as Itachi is considered a criminal by the Hidden Leaf." why , why couldnt hiruzen tell inofrmation to anybody else ? what does this habe to do with itachi being a spy , i mean hiruzen is not getting any plagiarism warrants for not naming the shinobi who passed the info. to him , he a hokage he is absolutely not obliged to tell anyone who passed certain info. to him . i mean i understand hiruzen is an extremely incompetent hokage but the thing with hiruzen is that he formed the council and he consults things with the council and that has nothing to do with his reluctance for taking action , i mean he shares matters of grave bulnerability like the uchiha situation w danzo even though danzo attempted to kill him, if hiruzen knew something about the aktauski definately the council would and the info. wouldve been passed to the next hokage i.e Tsunade and guess what ! - Jiraiya would be alive 2. " Itachi considered it dangerous to relay information to someone he didn't trust." wtf but why though what is so dangerous about conveying information about aktauski i mean the worst a person can do about the "dangerous info." on aktauski mebers is to kill them (all the akautski meebers are S ranked criminals who have distrubed the shinobi system ) so what is so dangrous about informing anyone anything about the aktasuki , i dont think itachi knew anything about the akautsaki himsekf he is a pretty shit spy nothing compared to kabuto i mean we got. a glimpse of how shit a spy he was when he almost blows his cover of being a double agent BY HIMSELF when the uchiha cops come to interrogate him , the only spyign business he had done succesful prior is the uchiha one (in which he probably would have gotten first hand seats to council meetings since his father was a chief and as the heri to clan not to mention the uchiha had a goodwill for itachi and trusted him the uchiha granny calling him "the pride of the clan". 4. "Itachi is also surprised with how kakashi got to know about the akutski and its objectives thus he wanted to take kakashi with him, I think he was avoid a situation like these where he will be regarded as a spy." yeah and asked kisame to "finish off" the rest 2 jonin😬who thanks to gai survived , but anyways i dont get the big deal w him wanting to take kakashi w him and what does that have to do w him not wanted to be regarded as a spy i mean say he takes kakahshi as a hostage of sorts what does that have to do w his level as a spy or reluctance of people finding out he is one . i mean kakshi unlikely knows that itachi is behind this its evident in the manner he talks and heck he is even playing his speculation game-he asks itachi if he has come for sasuke ? but then its he is the who says hes after the legacy of the 4th hokage

I mean... if people receiving information from spies couldn't tell anybody because their spies are "bad people", well... there's no reason to have spies in the first place. The point of a spy is to lie and hide their true identity to transfer information, they HAVE to keep their identity a secret - so of course Hiruzen wouldn't tell anyone the identity of his spy.

I''d like to imagine at the very start of Itachi & Kisame being on the same team etc, they had no trust. But, after really diving into Kisame's character, I always thought he really didn't belong with them. I mean, sure, at the very beginning, yes. Just rogue ninja's doing mercenary work, and posing as a threat to the villages etc etc., but when the plans were fully revealed about capturing the Bijuu and stuff like that, I could imagine he was just there because well... there was really no place for him. So with this thinking, in my own headcanon (because we see how loyal he is with Itachi and how close they really were), he was probably the only person that Itachi could truly relay anything to. Honestly wish this was true though, lol. Imagine. Like, Kisame could just send sharks to relay intel etc.

@@ryanbarber6481 well kisame was Itachi's partner to observe him and kill him in case he betried them. Kisame was loyal to Obito and it was Obito who recruited kisame. Ofc I believe he considers himself Itachi's friend. Nevertheless still his mission was to observe Itachi.

​@@adamkowalski6061I think so. Your Mission is more Important than Your Comrades. So, He wouldn't be hesitating to kill Itachi. Also, the fact that Obito never trusted Itachi and had his eye over him, does explain his inability to leak Infos.

@@FactClipZ its revealed in the Manga that Kisame does indeed value mission priority over comrades, in a flashback, Kisame when he was still a Mist Ninja did in fact kill his entire team off before Leaf shinobi caught up to them in a battle the Leaf and Mist were in, and also, Kisame technically wasn't a Rogue Shinobi, since he viewed Obito as the Mizukage of the Mist

This would be true if Itachi didn't have his Tsukuyomi, he can use that to relay any info he wants to his target and since he can fully control everything there no one could suspect him of anything.

This 100% And Hiruzen was gullible enough to not question it.

Itachi is that stupid?

Damn that danzo!! Lol

@@Pain-106 Are you asking me or the guy who did a 30 minute video saying Itachi is stupid?

@@kluv5052 😅

you mean the crow casts illusions for him constantly?

That genjutsu didn't have a ten year cooldown it was just the crow slacking.

If Itachi had enough leverage to say that Jiraya is too much for his team, why it wouldn't work for spying? Just say hey its Jiraya, the legendary sanin, he has his ways of spying.

@@8ferarry8 What would those ways be? You need to have a mole and both Nagato and Obito aren't stupid, they would do 1+1=2=Itachi

Hiruzen would've told pervy sage tho

@@will_1470 I'm not Hiruzen so I don't know if he did or not. Either way Jiraya lost to Nagato and I don't think Itachi knew how the six paths worked, at least we never saw him with anyone other than the Deva path, both in canon and filler and other than Nagato and Itachi he fought Konan and Kisame and he obviously knew konan's attacks. Regarding Kisame he seemed pretty confident of his own ability and nothing caught him of guard. I don't know if that happened because he had that information already or because he was just stronger than Kisame so he didn't even need to worry about him

​​@@priestmarmore6750are you stupid or you didnt watch the video??!?! You tell thar to TSUNANDE, THE HOKAGE, i think 1+1=2= tsunande WANTS TO PEOTECT THE VILLAGE. ITACHI COULD HAVE SAID IT TO HER, she could have condirmed it and told jiraya. And then they can tell TRUST WORTYY SHINOBIS, WHY WOULD NAGATO AND OBITO EVEN SUPECT ITACHI?!?! NOTHING WOULD BE ABLE TO PIN POINT TO ITACHI BEING A SPY.

Problem is obito wasn’t capable of just outright killing Itachi . Obito was well aware Itachi was a spy

Obito with help will end itachi though. Itachi was either sick or on mission, the whole time. He is evil via complacency.

nO

where tf was he retconned a retcon would be perhaps stating that itachi didn't commit the crimes or is extremely broken from the sins he has commited or something like that . but itachi remains a comically bad person to the end the guy killed Uchiha oldies and babies alike has "no regrets" and says that the fate was deserved until the uchiha didnt "change" - and how 8 y/o sasuke couldve changed them? he does say he is a failure - and thats because he is but the "failure" is about him not being able to turn sasuke into a konoha bootlicker , he says "you ended up a terrorist" i mean for a second lets assume that itachi actually didnt regret killing uchiha babies but alteast had a soft spot for sasuke how tf could he not regret torturing his baby brother to the point where he goes into coma (at ages 8 and 13 ) and inflicting so puch pain on him , or think of brainwashing him. gosh i hate his retconning BS soooo much its so infuriating to see wankers' worhsip the ground itachi walks on and then when itachi comes out as incosistent from their POV they start blaming the author who created the charehcter himself !!

@@rishisaaptacha well i think i said that all of the parts of his story make sense , and didnt comment on liking or disliking the charechter . this person says itachi was "full on evil" but then retconned i say he was "never retconned " he still the same bs he did but just w the villages approval this time. (goes to show how shitty the village is along with some shadow on the villages' shitness by naagato just prior to this )

“He wasn’t criminally insane he was actually just method acting” is such a fucking stupid idea. If itachi decided to kill Danzo not only would there be less trouble for Naruto later but it would also increase his reputation with the Akatsuki

I mean it's a plot hole regardless. Itachi basically didn't do anything until the war, besides cause problems. He literally would have been better off just abandoning the lead with Sasuke than what he chose.

@@jacobhayes8324 a guy already wrote this. People forget Itachi was always in a 2 Man team so never alone to leak info. If they received knews probably Zetsu and Obito would go for Sasuke... and on the other hand his presence at the ataktsuki alone prevented Konoha from being attacked

Nah it's Kishi's fault for being hyperbiased in favor of Uchihas. I bet he just made those up as he writes the story causing a lot of loopholes.

YES HE WAS

Itachi was able to retreat without battle against Jiraya duo to his legendary status, just play on that, hey its a legendary sanin spying, no wonder he knows stuff...