Was killing Mr House RIGHT or WRONG for the Wasteland? - A Fallout LORE Perspective 

Here's a link to the full-scale image of Robert 'Elon Musk' House. That's in case you're nerdy enough to make it your cellphone wallpaper: twitter.com/shoddycast/status/954579337621196800 A new update to the in-game lore database is coming over the weekend. This month's category to unlock: POWER ARMOR. ~DOWNLOAD LINKS~ PC (Bethesda.net) | bethesda.net/en/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/4042260 PC (Nexus) | www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/27629/ XBOX ONE | bethesda.net/en/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/4040890 Note to my fellow TES fans: I have a Morrowind script currently in the works. If I can ever shake this upper respiratory infection I might even turn it into a video one day! -Josh

The voice actor of Mr.House has died. RIP Rene Auberjonois.

You killed House because you felt morally obligated to, I killed House because I wanted Vegas for myself; we are not the same

I’m still waiting for the platinum chip that the courier is supposed to send me

“Power doesn’t corrupt, it only reveals, want to test the measure of a man, give him all the power in the world and see what he does with it.”

I think killing or not killing xXpussydestroyerxX from fo76 is a more complex ethical dilemma

Basically, Everyone playing Command and Conquer While Mr House Playing Civilization

The only bad to come of Mr. House’s ending is the eradication of the kings

The Brotherhood has laid hands on people though. Before the game takes place, Father Elijah had the Brotherhood attack Helios One and got his ass kicked by the NCR. And they also stop people on the road and demand they give them all their technology in a way that is a single threat &/or a tone of voice away from a straight mugging. And let's not forget that when you first meet them, they strap a bomb collar on you. If they ever met Mr. House, they wouldn't necessarily attack him, but that's also the single most likely outcome of that encounter. Or could you imagine the bloodbath if they ever found the Silver Rush? The Brotherhood are fanatics that may or may not attack anyone and everyone but themselves just for their technology. To that extent, the Brotherhood isn't that different from Raiders, they're just better organized, slightly less violent, and have a more specific type of loot in mind

"The Brotherhood of Steel represents an organization in the Mojave that hasn't threatened, or raised its hand against an independent New Vegas" Yeah they just planned to take away electricity from the Mojave region to power a super satellite laser cannon that only they can use.

House's demeanor: Off putting. His words: insensitive His mustache: *O F F E N S I V E*

You mentioned pre-emptive strikes when discussing House eliminating the Brotherhood. But is killing House on the presumption that he COULD become a tyrant not also a pre-emptive strike?

Coming back to this after a while. It was originally set for there to be an option to get house to spare the Brotherhood of steel, but it was cut because of time and because if they allowed it it would make House seem like too good of a choice.

Huh... Mr. House... space travel... * looks to obsidian's new game*

I didn't kill him. I gave him the chip, I did my job! We are all couriers, remember?

There's a huge argument against the Brotherhood, one that rears its head in Fallout 4. Elder Maxon represents the absolute worst tyranny can offer. The brotherhood destroys Rivet City simply for a power source- by force. They enslave the Commonwealth for food supplies. They act like raiders- unstoppable raiders. They went from an organization to a tyrannical, unstoppable government. It's debatable whether House, at full power with his securitrons, could actually defeat the Fallout 4 BoS. They become as bad as the Enclave. Yes, they're separated by chapters, but Maxon unified the Brotherhood and made it a nationwide entity, undivided. House is right to have them destroyed, and his vision for the future is the best and most logical there is.

Nah, I'm with House on this. the Brotherhood of Steel go out of their way to be answerable to nobody except themselves, AND insist on sitting on a pile of weaponry that could outfit a small army "because only we should be trusted with it" Bullshit. They are way more likely than Mr House is to attempt something drastic. At least Mr House is emotionally invested in seeing Vegas do well, which requires healthy citizens to want to come there and spend money, which requires safe roads and so on and whatnot. BoS just keeps stumbling into having access or even brief control of massive weapons, and frankly that's way more suspicious than anything Mr House actually has done. And while Mr House has disdain for the citizens of the wasteland, that's because he disdains everyone who is not Mr House. The Brotherhood of Steel disdain everyone else because they literally think they are inherently better than wastelanders, regardless of actions or morality. Like come on, its not quite there but is just one or two charismatic leaders away from becoming a racial purity thing. Also in the Yes Man ending, he reveals that Mr House actually had detailed blueprints for moon colonies and spaceships and so on. Mr House isnt bullshitting. He's just an abrasive dick. Which frankly puts him on par with every other faction leader you encounter in the game, including the BoS. meanwhile... most of your argument against House isnt based on his actual actions, just the potential there for action. I'd say be a decent employee/2nd in command and he'll be emotionally invested in seeing you survive too. He sure seemed adequately motivated in that way by the time the BoS murder-mission came up

Who would win? A supergenius multi-billionaire with advanced technology the world has barely ever seen and over 200 years of experience. OR One maily boi

I killed Mr. House with a 9 iron just to complete an achievement that the game had to offer, nothing personal.

I choose the house ending every time I play because I love the fact I can roleplay as his top lieutenant essentially, being the number 2 to the biggest power in the Mojave

I love this character, “I killed him because he charged me taxes” “understandable” But I really wish you didn’t have to kill the brotherhood when you side with him.

Hate him or love him his company made your PIP device.

Even if you regret your choice, its not like its the end of the world, that happened ages ago

to be fair, the brotherhood had a history of attacking and destroying his securitions unprovoked if they even got near hidden valley

What I find fascinating is that Mr House is speaking to you through a voice filter that simulates his young self. It would be interesting if someone re-recorded every one of his voice lines in the creepy 200+ yr old voice which you hear in his chamber. If he spoke like that for the entire game I think our perception of him would instantly go from Howard Hughes visionary virtuoso to Emperor Palpatine creepy tech wizard.

"Apple's CEO doesn't command an army of killer robots..at least not yet.. " Such powerful foreshadowing

Get ready ya'll apparently Mr. House was born in 2020.. better prepare. (Edit): It's June 25th to be exact. (2nd Edit): AYY HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR. HOUSE!!! Thanks for keeping me updated by replying ya'll and thanks for the likes 😂😂

Mr. House is one of the most interesting characters ive ever had the pleasure of interactign with in a game. He is over 200 years old and you can really tell that he is from an older time. He is a man of vision from the past forced to make do with the horrid working conditions of the present. A true genius forced to work with a society of humans who, for the most part, have regressed to the point where the most efficient way to get your point across is with a gun. His ambitions, while murkey, are in the best interests of humanity (yes the road to hell is paved with good intentions but considering the state of the world is already pretty close to hell....). On my first playthrough I chose to follow House. For one, the NCR are so blatently corrupt I found it hard to belive they were the "good" guys. Ceasar's Legion is *almost* laughably evil so they are out. Yes Man was so off-putting (mostly becuase you find him in the room of the guy who tried to murder you and he flips loyalties faster than a lightswitch) so that leaves... the one man who is actually trying to rebuild humanity after the worst parts of it destroyed the world. Yes he weilds too much power. Yes, his motivations are kept to him and him alone, and yes, the thought of serving a glorified brain in a mummy is weird. But, in my mind, Mr. House is not deserving of an execution... he deserves a fucking medal.

I'd say, from a lot of what I've seen in Fallout regarding the BoS, that Mr. House's decision to wipe the Brotherhood off the face of the map comes from two variables: -the attempt to steal away Helios One's power and just outright engaging in violent warfare, and no, Mr. House likely didn't know Elijah was at the helm of this. -the fact that the Brotherhood is more pigheaded than most factions, and they are so for a reason that is incredibly selfish. Like House said, "you don't see the BoS going into hospitals to salvage the auto-docs do you?" In other words, as far as House knows, these isolationists are going to one day try to take back control, in the name of the old world, I mean, for what reason does one collect extremely dangerous tech? Suuuure. To "protect" mankind from itself, great. That's lovely. See, if this faction actually engaged more, and tried to actually help wastelanders, by giving them books, by repairing those auto-docs, and giving them to the more stable communities, then maybe House would even try to work alongside them. But their ideology is simply too "static" it leaves no room for development. It is an ever-stagnating way of life, as it is literally "collect tech, keep it away from other hands except our own". "But wait!" - I hear you say. "Aren't they trying to secure this tech for when there is a better mankind?" Yes, they are, and "when" will that be? Who decided the parameters on "when" to give back this information to the people? The answer: nobody. Because there are *NO* parameters. Because if there were indeed parameters for that, then the BoS would actually seek out these nodes of civilized society and give them gifts, and they would seek to help those who were trying to develop said society so they could eventually give them these gifts. But because the strongest message in their whole thinking is: "collect tech, save it for the future", that that's what they do, that's all they can think about. That's the easiest part of their freaking identity. But start talking about "sharing" and "outside contact" and suddenly you are almost villified by their community, or at least seen as an "excentric". And THAT is what Mr. House is seeing. And sure, I would say that out of all actions that House asks you to take, obliterating the Brotherhood is definately the worst thing. But let me you ask you this: "What choice does he have?" You want to "talk" with them, sort things out? They don't "talk" to people. And because they hide themselves, you can't even attempt to talk with them. AND they are better armed, and better armored than about 95% of the wastelanders. They are dangerous as hell and "unpredictable". And that's what scares House, that's what scares basically everybody. Ah yes, the Brotherhood! The bright shining beacon that shall light the path to a new mankind! Except that beacon is underground. And they'll take your tech by force if they have to. So inspiring. An ideology is only as good as the people who follow it, and the BoS members are not going to help mankind to arise from the ashes of the old world, because they are too busy sifting through it for its charred trinkets.

Mr. House's attack of the brotherhood wasn't unprovoked. They had already proven their hostile intent towards house by attacking his robots. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that they would've attacked house if given the chance due to him having tech.

"After all of that, the future of mankind.... why?" "I just didn't like you."

i could have sworn i was one of the few to admire house and side with him in my first playthrough. I didn't know people enjoyed killing him so much tbh Though, I wasn't a fan of the fact that he allowed the tribes he took in to remain of low moral fiber (minus the chairmen).

I honestly feel like just how iconic Mr.House is his ending in Fallout NV is probably the canon ending. even though his original voice actor is gone I hope they find a way bring House back because I think I speak for everyone I would kill to see a Fallout game where the main story is Mr.House vs The Institute

Fun fact, Mr House is considered an "abomination" and killing him counts toward the "abominable" perk.

Easy Pete is best factions in this game, at least you can sit all day and say howdy to everyone you meet.

Personally I always choose house, and I’ve always assumed that it was the canon ending mainly because it’s the one the game sets up the path for most, and because from what little you hear about Vegas in fallout 4 it’s said that it’s booming like nowhere else which tells me house won.

I just can’t stop watching the perfect editing for houses speech on vegas 6:53

this was incredibly well made

*watches this video* *immediately re-installs New Vegas to play it again*

I started this game for the first time a couple weeks ago, killed Mr. House about 40 minutes ago. I understand that what I was doing was a mistake, I just didn’t realize how bad of a mistake it was.

I had a hard time NOT siding with House. He is the best hope for The wasteland.

Destroying the Brotherhood wasn't entirely unprovoked, he sent securitrons to them in an attempt to have talks with them and they were destroyed by laser weapons. It's extreme, but it's technically not a preemptive strike.

I wholeheartedly believe Mr. House should be able to keep what he saved regardless if he went dormant or not. For without him, there would be nothing to claim except more wasteland.

It's worth pointing out that the Courier owes House his life after his robot saved him right at the beginning. It is a bit of a brain bender, not unlike how it's never addressed that in Fallout 3 your Dad abandons you to die at the beginning.

dude the pacing and background music in this is CHEFS FOCKEN KISS

Mr house is nothing compared to president Dave , glorious RULER OF THE REPUBLIC OF DAVE

The problem with the Brotherhood argument is the assumption that the Brotherhood might not attack Mr House. The Brotherhood's entire mentality goes against the very concept of the robot army wielded by House. Hell the Brotherhood is often in some state of conflict with nearly every major power in the wasteland since nearly every major power uses energy weapons in some capacity. They may have a just goal in mind but driven by their beliefs they often resort to banditry and violence. If their goal is ever achieved it would result in Brotherhood domination over the entire wasteland with insane weapons of war, not to mention their goal would be nearly impossible to due to weapon schematics. The Brotherhood isn't a loose variable they are a dangerous certainty to any wastelander.

7:32 thanks for editing a welder into when house says “high technology.” It’s nice to see my career complimented like that.

I changed my mind on Mr house with the line “don’t hurt a hair on that bald mans head” referring to Caesar’s legion. He treated a faction that took slaves and did as horrible actions as Caesar’s legion did as customers. Which made me see a very unsettling warlord part of him.

Another thing is that if you have good karma, in the endgame, House says he's proud of you as a lieutenant. It only happens with good/very good karma. It might signify that House is going on a better path with you as his agent.

Hold the phone the smartest character in Fallout is not House it is No-Bark

From my first play through I knew House was best for HUMANITY, both of the Legion and NCR’s ideologies failed to prevent the wasteland, it was time to give the reigns to an autocracy

11:00 I would honestly say that it's not justified, but it's something that either would do if they were capable of doing it. The BOS and House's vision contradict one another. He'll never make it to interstellar colonization if there's a high tech order of tech hoarders were allowed to continue on.

The Brotherhood of Steel differs with each game and sect, but the Mojave chapter is arguably the most radical, seeing as how the original chapter worked with the NCR, the Capital chapter's mission was to give people free water, and the Commonwealth guys decided to clear out the two shadiest factions in fallout, for free, then move on. The Mojave chapter took Helios One, saw what damage it could do in the wrong hands, and decided that all hands other than theirs where wrong. They could have easily destroyed the place, but no, they had to be mighty about it. All they do, is look for tech, and either take it from it's rightful owners, or destroy it. They just sit in Hidden Valley, reproducing, re-arming, and representing the worst of the Brotherhood. People talk about them attacking Vegas? Let's talk about them attacking Big Empty, the Nuclear silos of the divide, or God forbid, taking Elijah's path at Sierra Madre. Hell who's to say that they don't see electricity and water as "too much power for civilians" and attack Hoover Dam? Legion wouldn't stand a chance, NCR would last, but not forever, and Independent Vegas would struggle to work together well enough and long enough to stop them. And if they get it? The Brotherhood, now that The Enclave is gone, are already the most advanced group in the west. Now add the power of The Dam, the wondertech of Big Empty, the endless supply of the Vending Machines, the Nuclear power of The Divide, and hell, even the Archimedes Satellites that they know how to power up and use; and you get a group more powerful than all other groups combined, but as shortsighted as a raider camp. Name one likeable person in that bunker. Veronica was kicked out, so she doesn't count. House has the knowledge and aspirations that the Elders lack. The Brotherhood would never think of space travel! And if they did, it would be theirs only. House may have very little compassion or interest in the affairs of the people, but he has more than the Brotherhood of Steel.

Don't forget that House also saved the courier's life by having Victor dig them up.

Imagine ordering something online and the FedEx delivery man loses the package. When he finally recovers it, he just shoots you and hands the package to someone else.

"Where the strong rule unfettered for as long as they stay strong and where the weak are continually trampleed underfoot." Hmm... Sounds familiar

Fallout: New Vegas: Has a thirteen minute video analyzing one single character with complex character traits and a true, unique personality, and not to mention, being an important part of the Fallout universe. Players will have to choose if they agree with his vision of the Mohave Wasteland/New Vegas, or destroy him and declare him a narcissistic megalomaniac. Fallout 76: Has 12-year old kids nuking each others bases until bedtime.

On my first play through I loved Mr. House honest, to the point, no BS. Great guy. Loved the idea of New Vegas open to anyone. And a beacon of hope for future advancement.

I'm honestly more annoyed that the game doesn't give you better dialogue options than "it's just business" or "I don't like you." With the way I ran my character, killing or disabling mr house would have been a personal ideological decision. Just something along the lines of "I can't let you do this" would have been nice. Maybe I haven't played enough of the game to get an option like that, though, idk

Also this video is amazing and your analysis skills are on point and I love how you used an Alan Watts quote cause he is one of my favorite philosophers

I actually sided with Mr. House on my first NV playthrough, although it was simply for the caps. All my FO characters are financially motivated. Funny that.

The House speech and that music? Wow did it go together!

Love the railroad soundtrack at the end

One of the things I like best about Mr House is that he comes in the ready-to-eat handy pack. You dont have to lay him out in the sun to dry him out and there's no preparation or cooking time required, he's basically pre-jerkied in a vacuum sealed environment, cured for over 200 years and marinaded in his own juices. He's basically good to go, just open the pack and rip into him. Delicious.

NCR dreams of the past Caesar lives in the present Mr. House sees the future

The name of the soundtrack that plays during House speech is called Etude No 1 For String Quartet

How did you do such a good job in 13 minutes? With the sheer quality of this video you could have kept me for at least another ten

6:55 what song is that? “Epidemic Sound” is credited but I cannot find it anywhere.

Such a good fucking game

I feel like The House Always Wins is the more logical ending but fuck it Wild Card is the most fun

A bit of necroing here, but as a line of argument, I'd like to recall to Arthur Schopenhauers quote on this; " “talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.” Which very much accurately presents the inherent value of Mr. House, that a genius like him, the repository of knowledge he possesses, is a value higher than thousands. Literally. Especially if we are trying to make the claim of argument when it comes to 'the temporary benefits/risks outweigh the long-term benefits/penalties', it is obvious that Mr. House would be the pragmatic choice in a world where we cannot really claim morality or virtue, when all sides are evil, unscrupulous, or very amoral at best. Everyone serves their own interest, and are as self-interested as an NCR that sends 95% of Hoover Dam's energy and water to their secured, rich, 'already-wealthy-inhabited-by-brahmin-baron home states' if that is not a mouthful enough. To proclaim one side is an arbiter, custodian of peace, or an exalted group of people (relatively) then others, would be a fallacy within the twisted landscape and geopolitics of Fallout, in general. So with that being said, excluding the false ideas of 'Right and Wrong' or 'Virtue and Evil', especially when they are apparently helmeted by the likes of Mr. House, NCR, and God forbid, Caesar's Legion. Mr. House would be the obvious, practical, and pragmatic choice. Unlike the NCR who can barely hold the Mojave, and can't show the reliance needed to be shown in a social contract democracy, where safety, food, shelter, supplies are entailed in the basic privileges of the citizen in exchange for complete obeisance. Or in the Caesar's Legion who display a complete and utter disregard for the long-term, whose in 4/5 of the timelines, Caesar dies and his nomadic scourge crumbles under the buckling weight of the next 'Caesar'. I would rather defer to Joshua Graham himself for this, which there are clips and videos of him explaining these things, and the bull-headed Legate Lanius whose mind for war and callousness would only prove to further regress the regime of Caesar's Legion in the Mojave and New Vegas. Yes Man, unfortunately no matter how invulnerable you may justify the Courier as, will never be like Mr. House, even with Yes Man and the vestiges of Mr. House's legacy. You will not, whether you may or may not rationalise the Courier as this, have the same cunning and diplomatic genius that Mr. House had in bringing the NCR to bargain and parlay despite his own inferior position, or the many other feats superfluous for me to recount. This shows, by parallels and precedent in history, that Mr. House has the actual merits to show he can do what he says he can do, unlike Caesar and his terse and pseudo-philosophical knowledge of misinterpreted concepts in 'Hegelian Dialectics' (which, ironically, he, and his faction, is the pruned antitheses of the synthesis in which his failed legion is left out from in their inherent weakness of leadership and impetus). This, and also the NCR, of whom are already under the buckling weight and pressure of their home states, of, to borrow a point from someone else, the special-interest groups of brahmin barons that hold back the genuine military strength of the NCR from being deployed into the Mojave. Which goes back to my point that the shoddily-armed citizens that the NCR calls 'soldiers' to protect the people and claim imperial hold, is fallacious in the fact their establishment cannot uphold their end of fulfillment in safety, supplies/food, shelter. The citizens have no reason to be under the NCR when their government is a take, take, take and never giving, as the tribals and non-home-state citizens are drained of what they are worth and are barely given a portion of what they were promised in being under government. In this respect, Mr. House does not fail, as bad as an autocracy may sound, Mr. House outlines a Nation-State in which only he rules, and that there is no expectant privilege from the citizens, but rather there is by circumstance. And also that there is a given hierarchy in which Mr. House rules to cement order, and so long as the citizens have their toes on the line and follow his directives, everything in between is their personal liberty and freedom. A historical and real parallel in this world can be found in Singapore. And also, the fact that, when all is said and done, he saved the Courier's life, so from a RP perspective, 8/10 the Courier would choose Mr. House just by the life debt, though to be fair, only if the Courier cares enough and/or connects the dots and isn't influenced by another faction's agenda. And from a meta-gaming perspective, or just an in-lore argument, Mr. House did practically save Vegas and the surrounding region by predicting the nuclear apocalypse about to occur and disarmed some 88 nukes out of the 94(?) that may have landed, I may have gotten some of my numbers wrong, but these are more or less the estimate. On the account that Mr. House could have and would have saved the world, had the platinum chip only reached in time. In the regard of corruption, Mr. House being a man of absolute power does pose a threat, much like Communist Dictatorships or the more gradual and sickening process of corruption within the bureaucracy of the NCR, this is a fatal flaw within every structure of nation. Many arguments could be used against this, but there is one I'd like to magnify. That a an, robot-brain-entity, like Mr. House would be above 'physical' corruptions, wiles, decadence and hedonism, and also that his ambitions comes from a cold, tempered from experience, calculated pragmatism that is derives from his genuine and previously displayed motive to lead humanity, if even its only a small group, to greatness. And ultimately, to survive. After all, if you wish to see that fate of democracies, just look out the window. Might as well give the robots a try at ruling? Probably won't be any better than the humans. So, to conclude, yes. I would very much like Tabitha to rule the Mojave Wasteland as the Dictator of the Confederation of the Black Mountain.

Good video, I am glad that I found your channel.

i loved that edit you did of House speaking over shots of old Las Vegas. Very inspiring, because the desert is the engineer's domain. The desert is where potential is for machine tests, weapons testing, vehicle testing and etc.

What the video doesn't mention is that House is 100% on the ball about the Brotherhood. It's not even a matter of debate on whether or not the Brotherhood is dangerous. If you convince Veronica to leave them, the Brotherhood will wipe out the Followers of the Apocalypse because they are afraid that Veronica will give her knowledge to them.

The only time the brotherhood was ever good was in fallout 3. And that was because they effectively were no longer the brotherhood tenant wise and went rogue. Every other game they can eat it.

This video is incredible! I come back to it every now and then because of how well crafted, interesting, and how so right it is about the amazing game series of Fallout, specifically FNV!

I wish you could disconnect Mr. House from the Securitrons and other such things, but keep on his life support and prevent him from being contaminated so he can continue to live. He's a valuable man, even without having much power. He is the type of man you want to listen to, even if you only consider it the ramblings of a centuries old man. Maybe the NCR can make visiting him a school field trip.

"If you want to see the fate of Democracies, look out the windows..." - Robert Edwin House, 2281

hearing “does absolute power corrupt absolutely” on a tuesday midnight gives me a mad philosophical headache

So say I want to have the NCR ending, should I upgrade House’s bots or no? Is there a difference or option?

The mere fact that we can discuss this, a compelling, complex concept of even killing a character, shows that there was more effort put in this game storytelling wise, then in Fallout 4. Bethesda could take some notes for the next fallout, and hopefully the next elder scrolls game.

replacing mr house with yourself entirely depends on how you run the wasteland

10:20 Finish Veronica's questline and you might take that back. He knew all along what they were capable of.

Does anyone know what song plays at 6:54 all the others say video unavailable

7:40 100 Years... House may never have gotten his wishes (unless you count the endings in which you made his faction win) but the studio that created him sure did create a vision of a "Capitalist Space" (The Outer Worlds by Obsidian)

I always sided with Mr. House because the house always wins. 🏠

In a situation like Fallout, I would pick House every time. NCR is becoming more corrupt as time goes by, I would avoid the Legion for obvious reasons, and Independent would collapse within a lifetime. House has his problems, but his intentions are overall good, he offers not only a plan, but the ability to live long enough to see it through, and he doesn't force people to join him, just don't get in the way. Also he has robots to fight instead of forcing people. He offers the most upsides while minimizing downsides. Their is no perfect solution. All you can do is try your best to make the future better for the next generation, and I think he has the best chance of doing it.

I can't believe you gave Alan Watts a shout-out!

Never was a question of morality for me. I just wanted dat sweet sweet securitron army for myself. And the cannibal perk. And the Bioshock challenge.

On the second point: If a character believes they should kill Mr. House because his pre-emptive strike against the Brotherhood is unethical and tyrannical, despite his concern that the Brotherhood MIGHT someday be a threat, then they are guilty of the same unethical and tyrannical thinking. Because the player executing House because he MIGHT someday be a threat is very much the same as House killing the Brotherhood because they MIGHT someday be a threat. It is an ethical paradox.

I personally think the fact that the strip only exists because of mr house is a very good argument against his ignoring of freeside as even though it's not nice he dosent really owe them anything in fact the presence of securitrons and the gamblers coming in has probably helped freeside safety wise and stimulated the local economy (guards for travelers,weapons merchants,bars and casinos, ect) vegas in all honesty was dead befor mr house and let's not forget if it wasnt for him vegas would of being destroyed

the music is soooo right for this video well done

Arguing against house and his philosophy may be valid in a pre-nuked world, but humanity in the fallout universe is dangerously close to extinction, alternate endings and gameovers in the first fallout games are a testament to that. Every other big-player faction in fallout lore has been regressing or repeating history while learning nothing from what put them there to begin with, while House is a one in a trillion opportunity to retain and continue progress from before when the bombs fell. House is more than just intelligence, he has lost knowledge and experience, he honestly is the best shot at keeping humanity alive and even more. Yes he may be a tyrant and be a shitty person morally, but I don't feel that post apocalypse where people canibalize each other and monsters are above in the food chain, is the time to be worrying about the petty morality of a man who wants to ultimately rebuild society and give everyone high-technology and luxurious life-styles back. Morality at that point is making sure humans don't become wiped out in a few more hundred years, but house would do even better than that. He wouldn't live forever anyhow, so use him as a tool at least to propel humanity close back to a thriving state.

You realize that The Brotherhood of Steel had an entire war with the NCR right? They've also destroyed multiple Securitrons, which when you think about it are probably hard to replace, that's how he calculated the location of their base. So it's not technically a pre-emptive strike. The NCR also tasks you with destroying the Brotherhood also. You can make an alliance between the two, but it's like pulling teeth. The point is any sound tactician would take them out of the game.

I want you to imagine for a moment: Robert House, aware of his diminishing health, decides to send multiple copies of his consciousness to a former contact he supplied before the war, MIT. He used Kellogg, The Gun Runners (Gunners as a way to protect their home territories), and finally a displaced group of enclave soldiers with a dud copy that is actually a tracking beacon. Kellogg being the inside man was tasked with bringing a copy of House directly to the Institute, his leverage was the code for the transmitter House planted in the copy for the Enclave troops. He gave up the troops so the Institute could take their technology while also providing them with a large amount of information to improve their facility. All of this, for a synth copy. Once made, Robert and Kellogg coordinated an escape with Patriot, where some synths can still be found in the tunnels from their escape plan. Meanwhile, the Gunners use a radio station to transmit a message from House to MIT on local channels. So Deacon arrives and STEALS THE COPY!!! He gets back to the switchboard and House is plugged into the CIA database (big oof) where he offers insight, passwords, and tech locations the Railroad can scavenge. All this of course, for a synth copy. Link these events together and now the switchboard is suddenly attacked after Patriots last attempted breakout. House used the other copy to lead the Institute to the Switchboard, where both copies escape with the data provided by the CIA database and the ROBCO Database. House uses this info and the Railroad contacts to flee to the Capital Wasteland, change his identity, capture more synths, and turn them into more copies of house. A short amount of time goes by and the institute begins sending their best agents to find him. So House decides to turn one of his enemies, the Brotherhood of Steel against the Institute. And he does this by ambushing Sarah Lyons and killing her along with the pride, leaving behind a statement framing the Institute. This would better explain Maxson's hate for the Institute and synths. The locals fear of synths and assistance from the Brotherhood would make their resolve absolute in hunting down any witnesses, like remnants of the Railroad. The biggest theory and I'm sticking to it to this day, is that Robert House was adopted by Lorenzo Cabot after his parent's gyrocopter was struck by lightning. Lorenzo Cabot is a 500 year old man with an alien artifact attached to his head that has shown him the location of an alien city buried in the Mojave. The gunners were simply used as a Merc crew with a good Reputation to gain access to the facility Lorenzo was held in, then a synth copy of House paid Raiders to bust him out, with the promise of more caps and powerful chems that greatly increased the abilities of the user. He robbed the East coast and drew them into a full scale war. Whether he was killed or not, his shackles were destroyed the second he achieved his ideal form. War never changes, but the House always wins...... New Vegas wouldn't fall, but it will be taken back.

I always end up going the yesman route for the pipedream that is the Enclave filling the power vacuum

My heart, like the House, has truly gone bust. RIP Rene Auberjonois.

tbh the mr house speech segment was pretty inspirational

What shader mod you using? looks beautiful