Was Shane Dawson Ever Funny? 

Shane is like the guy that says something offensive and waits to see people's reactions to decide if he was joking or not

Some people are really shocked by the idea that, if a minor has a crush on an adult, it's the adult's responsibility to enforce appropriate boundaries.

I'm half asleep and I thought Jarvis was talking to Freddie Mercury.

I was the 12 year old girl that Shane kissed, and I want to agree with you and emphasize the point that you made, “it’s not about whether or not shane intended to do this.” You are 1000% right - it doesn’t matter whether he intended to create this image and reputation where he sexualized children, the fact is that he did. He did it whether he knew the implications of it or not, and it affected real people.

“It was a different time” Bro it was like 10 years ago not the 1800s

The fact that the fine bros did the millie puppet thing and then did kids react..... 🤢🤢🤢

It's kind of like Michael in the office. He made racist remarks and such, but he was the butt of the joke because he was being mean and was so clearly out of touch. They didn't make fun of poc, they made fun of Michael for making fun of poc.

Honestly, you left out the worst parts of Hey Millie- the parts where they joke about how she was raped by her father, how another character threatens to rape her, and everyone is laughing.

i don't think we should dismiss the idea of shane being a genuine racist in his past. black women would call him out for his behavior and he called them *apes* in response.. he even said after educating himself on the blackface of the '20s, he still did it because he did not care at all :/

If these two men had a custom font, one is the eyebrow lite version and the other is the eyebrow bold version.

Shane Dawson is literally young enough to be my child. Blackface has NEVER been inoffensive, even back in the days of segregation - there was always an entire population that saw it as being offensive. "It was a different time" is a piss poor excuse for anybody's behavior. When enslavement was legal (well, it still kinda is, but I digress), people knew it was all the way wrong. Shane is the poster boy for "If trash was a person." Also, I don't even welcome discussions from white people about racism - nobody has the right to tell me how I should interpret anti-Black behaviors. Some chick on a YT comment tried explaining Blackface to me, and girlfriend learned that day.

to any sexual assault survivors (or anyone in general) who needs to hear this: what happened to you was *not your fault,* i promise you. you werent “leading them on,” you arent “too sensitive” for letting it affect you, and no matter what happened, no matter how “small” or “insignificant” some people (even yourself) may think the event was, you have the right to be distraught. you have the right to be traumatized, even. you have the right to call yourself a survivor. dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

i feel like the excuse of “fangirls were just wild!” is placing the blame on young girls who were groomed by the internet.

Jarvis: "weird animal stuff he's done" Jordan: *eyebrows*

I️ 100% believe that Shane and Onision were a HUGE part of the reason so many people in my generation were sexually exploited over the Internet. They made it seem normal, and funny, and cool as people that so many children looked up to. That, combined with the Internet boom and the unprecedented access that abusers had to children online is absolutely the reason so many people around my age were sexually abused via the Internet. They should never be forgiven, given second chances, and I️ don’t want to hear their apologies. You don’t make these jokes and videos without some truth to them, otherwise it would be too hard for the creator to stomach.

I’m a teacher. My students range in age from 11 to 19. Thank you for addressing the overwhelming cultural problem which expects young people to be the responsible party in any relationship (no matter the nature of that relationship) between a child or teenager, and an adult. All of my students, even the eldest, are incapable of thinking actions through to consequences. And the thought of a legitimate grown up exploiting that developmental stage makes my blood boil.

“Being shocking is a shortcut to being funny” PERFECTLY explains Shane’s type of offensive “humor”

Hearing mature men discuss Shane is refreshing

"it was a different time, everyone was doing it!" - A Nazi in 1945

Coming from the perspective of a year later, Shane has learned nothing and James Charles turned out to be a predator. Life sucks.

When Shane said, “that’s how our family is” as an excuse, that truly sickened me. Like Jarvis said, the normalization of abuse is horrific, and Shane still tries to justify it.

I was an African American fan of Shane Dawson and I think I can safety say that he fed into my internalized racism at age like 12. Watching his content did make me feel like “ooh im watching this raunchy content -!and getting away with it” and it’s not until now i’m like really uncomfortable

the biggest difference with Bo is that the jokes are worded in a way that you understand that the punchline is aimed at the offender, not at the victim. So even though it's funny, you understand perfectly that it's very wrong

"It was a different time" argument makes my blood boil. It's always used on very serious issues and it's so dismissive to the issue

I think the whole "it was a different time" argument only makes sense when you're asked why someone didn't get cancelled for that kind of behavior sooner. It doesn't mean that behavior was okay back then, it just means not as many people were paying attention to it as they are now in the same way they are now.

‘Was Shane Dawson Ever Funny?’ The short answer: no The long answer:

Another little thing relating to Bo and that last line from New Math, there's actually a clip from a concert around 2010 where there's a group of fifteen year old girls and some other audience members are getting rowdy and Bo's being pretty sweet and protective of the girls, and some guy in the crowd shouts that line to be funny, and Bo says to him "could you just stand over by that security guard for the rest of the show?" I just feel like that really demonstrates how aware he was of the responsibility he had with his young fans and setting appropriate boundaries.

17:19 also imagine being a fan of shane and actually being sexually abused and then seeing this as a child?? it totally makes it seem like a normal and even laughable thing so i can definitely see how this could literally deter a kid from speaking up about that

Growing up in a town that was 99% white, nearly every kid thought Shane in black face was funny. His comments on raping young girls was also funny to everyone. I can’t express how detrimental these “jokes” were for people’s perceptions of the world and even their understanding of what humor can be.

Shane: “that’s just what people found funny back then” What we actually found funny back then: “nugget biscuit nugget in a biscuit”

I think with Bo it's mostly like, "I'm saying terrible things! Oh _YOU_ laughed at that? You're a terrible person, HAHAH!" But with Shane it's like, "I'm saying terrible things, but I think it's funny, you're supposed to laugh at this."

One of the biggest differences with Shane and Bo, imo, is the feeling of sincerity within the "jokes". Shane is doing things he genuinely believed were funny/OK, whereas Bo was making jokes ABOUT things he KNOWS aren't ok, and is making the subject into the butt of the joke, not the (for lack of a better word) hero.

"Back then" Shane did get in trouble. He got fired from his job, his mom and brother also got fired. There were consequences and Shane still is mad about the fact that he got fired.

So tired of “comedians” ripping on their audience for “not being able to take a joke”. You failed at being funny, so, as an audience, we have every right to judge the content of the “comedy” if your execution was poor.

I had first heard Monica Lewinsky speak in a TedTalk about her experiences being basically the first nationwide cyberbullied person. And it's unimaginable..

Why does no one talk about how Shane also claims to be an empath? Someone who feels so much emotion on other's behalf wouldn't be making these "jokes"

I think a lot of people don’t understand that the reason it was “a different time” and “it was normalized back then” is BECAUSE OF SHANE. You need to remember that he was essentially one of the first RU-vidrs, he was also very popular at the time. He started normalizing this shock humor on RU-vid and getting other content creators in on it as well. If that makes sense.

Idk what “it was another time” means. Racism and pedophilia and weird things with animals was never ok

that Millie puppet series shit is really insane to me because the background story for her was that she was a child who actually experienced sexual abuse. Their act of grooming her becomes much more sickening in that aspect.

when i first heard that shane and onision were friends in the past, i thought “how was someone who was as “good” as shane friends with someone as bad as onision” because i hadn’t really heard about shane’s past. when i heard about shane’s past, i was like “OH that makes sense now” shane’s behavior is completely unacceptable and i feel bad for ever supporting him

I also love Jordan's speech about cancel culture, because I'm so tired of hearing cancel culture cold takes. Like, cyberbullying is bad, and groupthink is generally bad, but deciding to criticize or just withdraw support from a creator who says or does bigoted things is completely within one's rights.

The difference between Sunny and Shane is that theyre playing characters who do blackface, and Shane is playing black characters.

The point of “edgy” comedy is the ass of the joke is the person doing the fucked up action, NOT the marginalized person being the ass of the joke by the person doing a fucked up action towards them.

In nicer news I’ve been on testosterone for a few months and both of you combined are my facial hair goals

Loved their Bo Burham moment. I will never forget how in one of his shows he just straight up makes a statement about not raping people and people CHEERED in the audience. He also made a song about the fragility of straight white males called....."Straight White Males". Bo makes content appropriate for his and his audience's age. He matured as he goes.

The only Shane we stan in this household is Shane Madej from buzzfeed unsolved

The big difference between Shane’s blackface and the blackface in something like It’s Always Sunny or Tropic Thunder is the punchline. Dee and Kirk Lazarus are the ones portrayed as being insensitive and stupid, and that’s the point. The joke is that it’s bad to do blackface, and these people are so stupid that they did it anyway. But Shane’s blackface characters don’t poke fun at the concept of blackface. He’s not making himself or blackface as a practice the butt of the joke. Instead, his blackface jokes are literally a modern-day minstrel show. The black caricature is the butt of the joke.

The biggest difference with Bo Burnham and Shane Dawson in their shock-value humor, is that Bo Burnham punches up. The butt of his jokes are either the character he plays, the bad person in the scenario, or some outlandish other character. Never the victim. His jokes are classic dark humor jokes, they don't make it out to be funny to do bad things, they inherently make fun of those bad things to make them easier to talk about, which is the point of dark humor. It's a form of humor where you can discuss and normalize the topics of taboo subjects. It's often more helpful than harmful. Shane Dawson's humor doesn't have a steady line of reason, there's no punchline, it's just "look at me doing bad thing, haha, it's funny cause it's a bad thing" when that's not funny. Bo Burnham is about absurdism and dark humor, Shane Dawson doesn't even have humor. He's punching down to people, the victims, minorities, minors, etc. This same shit is why I despise people calling outright hatred or bigotry "dark humor". Being an asshole, doing disgusting things, they aren't funny. Dark humor is one of the most difficult forms of comedy because it ties a very fine line between being too tame or not funny enough to be dark humor, and being too cheesy and uncomfortable, or too dark to be balanced out well with the joke. Bo Burnham is great because he walks that line very well. Shane is missing the mark by a mile and then getting upset when he's called out for it. Dark humor is a dangerous comedy to play into because things can be taken wrong and can just sound bad, it's a thing you run by people a lot when making an act, and it's something you immediately step up to apologize and take responsibility for, even if you don't think you should have to. There's no misdirections, puns, punchlines, none of that in Shane Dawson's comedy, if you can even call it that. It's just "Look! Blackface!" Whereas, one of Bo's jokes that I remember well, about him playing a slave in a movie and reinacting it, called Whiplash, he puts the right inflection and attitude to make it clear he's being snotty, he's playing his character. He plays a parody, and shows it in his behavior. A slight head wobble, a snort out the nose, a purposefully sassy smirk and glancing at the crowd in the right way, the cadence and timing of each word, it all plays into really playing up that character, overdone just enough that it's obviously a joke, obviously a parody, but not so overdone it takes away from the good ol' funnies. Instead of being so stubborn about his humor, Shane needs to seriously look into how jokes are constructed. While, with many art forms, there can be more interesting takes outside the box, humor is something that you have to be careful with, especially dark humor. When you make dark jokes that punch down, when you just say bigotry or hate with a quick "It's just a joke, bro", you normalize hatred. That's just how it is. Parodying hate, it's not something that's easy to do, and a lot of people think they can just be an asshole and say it's a character, when that's just not how it works. If the satire is not clearly satire, I will assume it's genuine hate, because genuine hate is far more prevalent than any genuine satire. I can hope and try to assume it's not intentional, but the fact is that there's too many people claiming satire to hide behind when they spout disgusting bullshit for people to be willing to take it as satire. Shane needs to either realize that his humor isn't fitting the necessary requirements for dark humor, and either get better at that shit, or get the fuck out of that genre. No in between. A great video that covers a lot of this kind of stuff is Matpat's video on Pewdiepie's anti-Semitic joke, why it failed, and how we can learn about comedy and how we can recognize when a joke is no longer a joke but rather outright bigotry or hate. A lot of it falls into punching up rather than down. Punching up is making the, say for example, making a joke about rape, but making the butt of the joke the rapist. These are funny and even spoken out about as ways to make good rape jokes, an example Matpat gave was one of the absurdism of rape itself. Of the concept and how ridiculous it is to want to do that or to do that in the first place. It never makes the victim feel at fault or puts them anywhere near the butt of the joke. I myself am a minority, transgender, and gay, and there are jokes about such topics that can make me laugh, it's just you need to be aware of who you're targeting as the butt of the joke, and the context of societal tenseness around an issue. For example, trans jokes aren't often funny unless made by trans people. Making jokes in good fun is very common actually, we joke about transphobes trying to make shitty jokes and make them better, we joke about pronouns and about common names we choose, etc. It's funny relatable humor. But in most contexts, trans jokes are a little tense, a little uncomfortable, because it's an issue of us and our rights being threatened atm. It's hard to find humor in that, and I haven't seen many people make genuinely funny dark jokes about it, most of the time it's just outright hate. Context of the world matters as well, is my point. Thank you for reading. Sincerely, a dark humor loving trans boi

Shane also went on a podcast and "jokingly" fantasized, in extreme detail, exactly how he wishes he could humiliate, torture, and eventually murder a co-worker on his film who called him out for his racism. It's... really gruesome and horrible, and all because she called him out on his bullshit. He claims it's a joke, but that leaves two options: either he is lying and just claiming it's a joke to try to get a pass, or he thinks that publically fantasizing about brutally murdering coworkers is funny. He also accused her of being mentally ill and said that talking about her like this on the podcast would probably drive her over the edge before proceeding to do so anyways. I don't remember which podcast, but I heard the audio in mörges' overview of many of the horrible things Shane's tried to avoid addressing directly and it is just... Horrifying. And not normal. At all. Who the hell not only fantasizes about torturing and murdering a co-worker, but thinks it's perfectly okay to cheerfully describe this fantasy to the entire internet, in detail? The only funny thing about Shane is that he goes around labeling other people as having all these mental disorders and claiming he's an empath because in reality people with a decent amount of empathy don't behave like this. (Also, empaths don't constantly flex that they're an empath to get people to trust them. They just behave in an actually empathetic manner and earn that trust, Shane).

“It was a different time” yeah people weren’t getting canceled over some things, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay just because you get away with it

He was never funny; it was his friends (Garrett, Drew, Andrew) that were funny

That scene from Always Sunny can also be interpreted to be a commentary on how white people tend to talk over POC when talking about race-related issues What Shane did is just blackface

I’ve never understood the “don’t take away his career though” comments. If he had any other job, this would absolutely get him fired immediately. I need to worry about what I post on Instagram because my employers may see it. The difference is that these youtubers are self employed and can just keep posting like nothing ever happened, if they feel like it. I wish RU-vid could pull the plug honestly.

I'm 21 and the single though of kissing a 11 year old is gross and so so weird

"I dont think Shane Dawson is a pedophile or racist" I do, I absolutely think he is those things ngl

Wait so Netflix removed that scene in Community but approved of Cuties, how??

the things shane dawson did in the past weren't "ok at the time", they just were normalised and so one held held him accountable

I lost focus for a split second and looked back to see D’Angelo, and I deadass thought I somehow changed the video with my mind

What I love about Jarvis vs D'Angelo (who I also religiously watch), is that Jarvis tries to understand what the person was trying to do, comedically, and explains either why it is bad, how it went wrong, or how to do it better/not be so offensive when trying to be comedic. I think it's probably because D'Angelo is more of a commentator while Jarvis is openly a comedian/commentator.

Something about new math is that Bo knows when he says the most outlandish lines and gives a reaction or a pause to highlight that that joke was bad

i'm so happy you talked about monica lewinsky, she is PHENOMENAL and people still make jokes about her and dont realize that what she went through was ABUSE!!! thank you so much for bringing that up it's so topical and so rarely talked about

I love that Jordan’s glasses make him look like he’s wearing eyeliner

I don't understand why the Fine Brothers don't get more shit for working with Shane so closely. Millie was a collaboration of the 3, right? The Fine Brothers should be called out for this shit just as much.

"Why do we live in a world where people have consequences for their actions?" -- Some comedian on the internet 2020

“Do you wanna come into my weird little house, I bet you feel bad for coming into my weird little house.” That’s an excellent description of watching a Bo Burnum stand up

the “it was a different time” argument is literally saying “slavery was fine because it was a different time”

Though I'm not a big Bo burnham fan, there's tons of differences between his comedy and Shane's they might both say not great stuff, but Bo uses facial expressions and inflection to tell you it's wrong or inappropriate, Shane sits there with a straight face or serious voice like its just a statement. You can tell that Bo is being staterical and making jokes way easier than you can with Shane.

I swear to god, Jordan looks a different person in every video.

I think one of the most definining things about Shane's vs Bo's humor is that Bo's lines aren't directed towards kids, and his main focus is clever word play. But Shane's whole joke is the outlandish statement itself.

My little sister is almost 12 and if I found out she went to a meet and greet and the 21 yr old man KISSED HER ON THE LIPS I would spend my life hunting him the fuck down. How in the WORLD do people see that as okay. So incredibly traumatizing for those kids who later realize the extent of how nasty it was.

The difference between Bo Burnham's lowkey offensive jokes and Shane's is that Bo's are actually jokes that are f u n n y. All Shane was doing is saying offensive inappropriate disgusting shit, and using the joke thing as an excuse. Bo uses them to enhance his message, and humor.

That episode of South Park where Kyle's little brother was in a relationship with his teacher is my example of the joke is not about sexual abuse and grooming. The joke is the about the absurdity of what how everyone is dealing with the situation. The fact that male authorities didn't step in because she is an attractive woman even though Ike is a fucking 5 year old! And that this woman is speaking to Ike as if he a fully grown man that can comprehend anything that is happening. And having Kyle bringing things back to reality of this is a child and it doesn't matter that she is attractive or the Ike is going along with it. Shane Dawson's stuff is just "I act like a weird pedo" with 0 nuance. There is no reactive response that builds on it. So that means the joke is the sexual harassment and abuse. Now you don't have to find that episode of South Park funny and you may very well find it offensive as well. But the main point is the joke is about the chaos of the situation that adds a layers of depth to it and creats a social commentary. But just making a joke of you sexualizing kids with no other context is just you sexualizing kids. What part of that are we even supposed to being to see the joke in it?

Bo never set himself out as for children. Shane did. He encouraged those girls who fawned over him

13:40 and the fact that she was 22 years old. 22!! Nobody talks about how extremely young she was and people like Jay Leno was making jokes saying she was a sex worker ON NATIONAL TELEVISION!! She was not a villain she was a VICTIM. She has talked about how she was in love with him and believed everything he said to her (because she was a 22 year old girl I love for the first time) and thought he loved her too until the scandal was revealed and he crawled back behind the curtain and let this 24 year old girl fend for herself while she was called “the worst person in history” by every media outlet in the world at the time.

I don’t get how Shane was able to get away with black face when to my memory FILTHY FRANK never even went that far in his skits.

He wasn’t lying when he said this podcast had the British version of himself

I’m a fourteen year old, don’t think these jokes are funny lol

Not to mention that the “it was a different time” is fully just anti-victim. It’s saying “we don’t care that you were abused by Onision, because it happened ten years ago.” No. Fuck that.

in regards to bo burnham, when my friends and I were 16, we made horrific jokes. I remember joking about my own sexual assault because I didn't know how to deal with it any other way. We were 16. I'm not saying that teens shouldn't be held accountable for their actions - they should. I just feel like there should be an understanding of, "hey that's not okay, and someone should let them know, because they might not know". Obviously as I grew up, I learned that those jokes were NOT okay, and I was ashamed of making them, and I think that's okay and should have happened. I was held accountable for them, and understood that they weren't okay. I didn't really 'get' that as a teen. I knew they weren't okay, but I didn't really get WHY. I'm rambling and this might not make sense, I'm sorry. I just feel like bo was sixteen to eighteen, and Shane was a full on adult

Jordan is so damn on point. Offensive or dark humour is fine but it needs to have thought put behind it. Great comedians know that being subtle and to a point make people think about what they are laughing at. Just saying "haha dead babies" or whatever edgy Lord """jokes""" Making a "shock and awe" statement then laughing at it while decrying people who thinks it's unfunny is just sad

Shane Dawson is the human embodiment of a bruh moment

The 34:00 mark reminded me of John Mulaney's bit about his dad comparing him being 6 and not helping/doing anything about a kid who got pushed off a seesaw to people who didn't do anything to stop the Nazis.

"Why do we have to live in a time where people are accountable for their actions" genuinely thank you so much for saying this

The Monica Lewinsky part was SUCH a great point. If you have seen her Last Week Tonight interview, you know. I think that interview changed me as a person, even though I already supported her when it wasn’t popular. When fans talk about predatory behavior from their favorite celebs, it often reminds me of that dynamic, except at least Lewinsky was LEGALLY old enough to consent (even though the extreme age and power dynamic contrast still ruined her life).

First time here: Seeing Jarvis get to fired up about this honestly makes me so happy, twitter will have you believe that the majority of people are excusing shane but that's not the case, they are the loud and wrong minority. I really found Jordan's approach on this podcast with dry humor and blunt jokes so funny 🤣 "comedy requires an audience and if the audience isnt engaged it's not the audiences fault" YES! You guys are doing great.

“I don’t want him to lose his job, I want him to change” wow you guys are some hopeful thinkers lmao. Honestly, this entire video was spot on until you said he shouldn’t lose his job. He gr00med minors and his overall online presence has had a negative impact on a large (young) audience, he should absolutely be fired. Let’s not act like he can’t find a regular job at retail or something. The problem is his job on RU-vid doesn’t just affect him, it affects others, especially his naive, young audience that he purposefully seeked out. Being an influencer is a privilege not a right, and once again, he can find a regular job like anyone else. Or he could just quit RU-vid, we all know he has the money for it. Why didn’t you take any of this into consideration? Every topic was so well thought out until this point of the video…

Shane Dawson is like an experiment on what would happen if Bo Burnham was completely devoid of talent

Is he racist or a pedophile? It's arguable. Is his content racist Or pedophilic? Most definitely. In this case, it really doesn't matter whether he himself believes in what he says, he has made so many so uncomfortable and has influenced children's way of thinking. I generally try to give the benefit of the doubt for most controversies, but in this situation, I really can't. It's really bad.

New to the channel, thought this was one person talking to himself with a mustache and accent.

When people say “it was a different time then..” no we were just kids back then or we were younger and didn’t really have our own voice like we do now that we are adults and are realizing that this shit is wrong. We’re old enough now to make change so that’s exactly what is happening

I know this isn't about the fine bros, but seriously, the fact that they participated in Hey Millie, and then went on to make tons of videos with kids is weird.

I love your analysis of this issue, but my one criticism is your continued giving Shane the benefit of the doubt. I have an incredibly hard time believing he's not racist or he's trying or whatever like it's clear at this point that he doesn't care at all

The most unbelievable part about this video is that the one named Jarvis doesn’t have the English accent

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE AND I THOUGHT THE OTHER GUY WAS JUST JARVIS IN A MUSTACHE 😭😭😭😭😭

I used to watch Shane in my early teens, but I can't say I was a fan. I never found him funny. In fact I found his content way too sexual and creepy - I just felt like something was off about him - and I couldn't, for the life of me, understand why he had such a huge fanbase. Watching his content led me down a rabbit hole of similar creators, who also made content that was extremely sexist, racist and just wrong on so many levels (but with high production value) that was watched by tweens. It honestly wasn't until much later that I realized content like that isn't funny or edgy, it's just bad, cheap humor that reinforces harmful stereotypes, and there are plenty of amazing creators who prove you don't need to do that shit. I'm so glad you boyz are talking about this in such a mature and respectful manner. Subbed

He didn't apologize for lying about having cancer and admitting to lying about it, no one is speaking about that

I was a very big fan of him when I was around 11/12/13 and genuinely feel like his content partially led to me being hyper sexual at a young age as well as normalizing abuse in my late teens early 20s as a result. His content had real world consequences.

"legally a joke" is such a good descriptor of what shane does

Same hair colour and hairstyle, both wearing round glasses, both in grey t-shirts. Jarvis even appears to be growing in a little ‘stache in this video. You know how Drew Gooden and Danny Gonzales do the whole ‘we are not the same person’ thing? You guys ever think of doing a doubles tour with them?

I was a young fan of Shane Dawson’s and it’s heart breaking because I genuinely wish I wasn’t. I was entertained by is videos and work because the older boys in my neighborhood acted similar. His content made me feel like it was okay for older men to fetish me when I was only 10-12 because they are joking/ or cool. And I came to this realization when his Jeffery Star/ conspiracy fame started taking off. Some of my college classes were talking about him, said his name and it triggered my ptsd to my sexual abuse/attacks immediately. I threw up in the bathroom and started hearing a bunch of men’s voices and and feelings ghost hands all over me. He groomed kids on the Internet I am convinced What is even worse was when I was 11 or so years old i spent the night at a friends and her niece (5 years old) loved to hang out with us. (To her we were the cool kids) . My friend brought up the same language Shane Dawson used in that peep video with Lisa. My friend started to sexually groom/assault her niece. I was uncomfortable and left the room. I didn’t get what was wrong/ why I felt this way because she was “teaching” her niece what Shane and Lisa was “teaching “ that girl and my friend was just physically showing her cause her niece didn’t get it. I walked home and told my mom the next morning. I then wasn’t allowed to see that friend anymore. Shane Dawson may or may not be a pedo. But he is a twisted man whose humor groomed children for all the pedos out there. Who miss guided children to think they were teaching other children. He needs to be held accountable and tbh he needs to quit. I hate that man. I had his existence blocked out from 14- 24. And I wish it had stayed that way.