Was the Digimon Dub Better Than You Remember? 

It was cut down to reduce its violence. Very few things were entirely removed

@@digilotl647 yeah I think the slaps themselves were "whited-out" (a flash of light for the specific frames in which the hands make contact with the faces). Can't remember with 100% certainty though.

Yeah! I appreciate them keeping that scene in. But I still don't understand why they cut out their second cat fight in season 2. It was really no different than their first one.

Oh i remember it all right. So glad my mom wasn't watching the episode with me.

Omg they 👋 tf outta each other

This is proof that TV shows cure problems like PTSD or something

@@KitzuneAmayori They can't cure PTSD, but they can help process traumatic events and reintegrate them with the rest of your memories (traumatic memories are stored by the brain differently than non-traumatic memories). Also mental illnesses in general can't usually be "cured", but they can be treated, sometimes to a point where the symptoms are minimal and don't interfere much with a person's life. Edit: I hope this doesn't come off as rude or condescending. My intent is only to spread some information around.

zBorderPatrol to be honest I never knew that. Thanks for sharing that info!

A game gave me PTSD

The kuribouh wtf

And Tentomon’s reaction was cute! He was like “ I wish I had a mommy “ 😂

I like the counter point of that as well with the third series with Rika's struggle with not having a father (with him either leaving her mom or dying) which is a theme that I also had not run into before that because for the most part, my friends had both parents and so did I as a kid.

especially when most media for kids, even in more modern IPs use adoption, not as a viable option for a family but as a way for kids to escape their families because "they're not my REAL parents" Just think about how many evil step parents disney put out alone.

Me too! Also, although my family dynamics weren't exactly the same, and my situation wasn't identical, the divorced parents thing was really helpful for me as a kid too. I started watching the show around the same time my parents split up, and although it was only my dad who moved out of the house, and my siblings and I weren't separated, it still helped me deal with that a lot better I think. At the very least, they told me, I wasn't alone.

@@ZeldaWolf2000. Would you vibe with the show even without some relatability? When I was a kid, raven is the closest thing to favourite character personally, in spite of little simularity beyond feeling left out and anger issues.

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I mean Hulu has it now

@@metageek7878 True, but the English subtitles on the original were...pretty bad and had a LOT of basic grammatical errors.

@@Firechick12012 I mean it has the dub

@@metageek7878 only the dub

@@benjaminpeters6729 and? We are talking about the dub

Oh yeah he was an awesome character. "Why should I listen to you when you were too weak to beat them yourself" and just took off like a boss. Seemed like just your typical lone wolf/blood knight but then you had the infamous "flower" moment.

same with Kari being so depressed that she goes into that weird black and white digital world, and TK, Gatomon, and Patamon running after her.

Blackwargreymon is one of those characters from my childhood I understand more and more as I get older. I must've been 9 or 10 when I first got into Digimon when it started airing on Fox Kids. Digimon was an amazing experience as a child. I'm 27 now. Those kid's adventures sure were heartbreaking, thinking back on it. I really enjoyed this video.

That was my first time recognizing there were similar characteristics across multiple shows since Mewtwo had an existential crisis as well. So for a while I thought the show accidentally(?) copied the first movie lol.

yea, i remember i cried when he died :(

I’d rather you said digivolved

I had no idea about Michael Linsday, I just searched him up and I wasn't aware that he passed away all I knew is that he retired from voice acting

Well this is a sad thing I'm just finding out. 😢

I guess a dedication to Paul Gordon came sooner

@@HerooftheWild I found out from Joshua Seth

That tears me apart . . .

Say what you will about the writing, music, or editing, the biggest strengths of Digimon dubs over the past 20 years have always been, IMO, the casting and voice direction. Those voice actors really deliver grade-A work.

@@PC2000 if this was A grade work for you I fear your taste in dubbing companies Besides Data Squad dub every other seasons dub was terrible, of course we all know the Megaman exe dub was worse but still hated the dub for every season except 5

Velvet Darksoul in Data squad Marcus’ voice actor messed up when he confronted his father. It was hilarious 😂. The dubs have been fine imo. I think Digimon can be admired for not caving in like others.

Sooooorrraaaahhh...I can feeeeeel your love...its making me StRoNg. Let's be real saban butchered digimon. The voice actors when directed well were good, but the direction was pretty bad for seasons 1 and 2. Tamers is where they did a lot better

@@benjaminpeters6729 pff, to me all the dubs cept 5 were badly dubbed Especially fusion, that craps only saving grace was the Japanese songs they had

Agreed. People tend to rage about gimmicks often, but always forget, that long as you don't jumble execution or adding in your own flavor of doing things, standing out is still possible!

Etemon was my favorite.

Link?

@@barmandopj2951 I can't find any video from the Q&A (doesn't help there were two screenings and he was at both), but he mentions saying the line in this interview he gave about the event to Cartoon Brew here: www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/interview-mamoru-hosoda-on-the-profoundly-personal-making-of-mirai-167192.html

Even today I'd be surprised if they kept that in for an on air dub.

Ironically enough I was thinking about that earlier this week. I really appreciate that moment now, in retrospect.

can you elaborate? i can’t remember what you’re referencing.

@@impIicit When Myotismon returns as Venomyotismon there's a prophesy that he'll return at 'The Hour of the Beast' referencing the mark of the beast, from which Matt's dad (I think) deduces that he'll appear at 6 minutes and six seconds past six o'clock.

Sometimes I'm glad Digimon never got as much attention as Pokémon did. Could you imagine the soccer moms screeching over Digimon's "hour of the beast" like they did over Pokémon's "glorified cock fighting"?

haha from what i remember they cut that scene as well so that he didn't technically finish the word "poker".

@[VUT] Windows XP TWO That was when Jeff Nimoy had full reign over the script. If you can look past it as an accurate adaptation of 02, it's honestly quite funny. They got away with a lot of stuff that seems unimaginable today.

@@avalanchemkii7506. Like what? Whenever people say stuff like this, it never goes beyond underestimating something from the start, only to have rugs pulled out of under them.

I remember watching Digimon on the WAM! channel (I think it was one of the Starz channels) in addition to Fox Kids and then Jetix

Jetix?! Fuck I feel so old now... :'(

I remember watching them on FOXkids for the first time when they were aired in 99-2000

I remember watching Tamers and Data Squad

Mid 00s!?!?!???! So you where born in the year 0 jk i remember watching digimon when i went to tokyo

Way more emotional compared to the original sub IMO. Wish they kept the original line where Davis tells him to go home tho...

@@datboi9539."Go home", what is this, kindergarten?

XD I don't know the exact name of the song but it's the slow dramatic violin music that plays during certain scenes and I was like "no, you can't do that to me come on"

Idunno about Leomon’s bit now. Leomon’s death is kind of a meme for the series at this point.

Maybe

Bronyboy5463 The one problem I had with season 4 is the name mistakes like when Tapirmon and Meteormon were called Bakumon and Gotsumon when they were introduced.

And the dub kept the serious tone intact?

@@leonardofarias8843 For the most part, yes!

Hey, Digimon makes the second half of Adventure difficult to watch.

In the Japanese version, Cody/Iori didn't have a fear of water; he was just blaming himself for leading his friends into a trap.

@@RoyStantz So it seems the fear of water was shoehorned in for some reason. It still worked, IMO, and could be worse.

Huh, never thought about it that way. I hear a lot of the differences between digimon and pokemon and how the humans in digimon do significantly less. In that sense digimon are like their guardians. Yeah when I would hear people say "I wish I was a carefree kid again" I always think how weird that is. Sure, you didn't have to worry about anything, but you couldn't do anything either. I wouldn't want to go back to being less than I am now.

Yup! Jokes are mostly bad, but who doesn’t chuckle at bad jokes? That’s why I love them

I think its easier for kids who grew up with the dub to understand how impactful it was. There really was no other show like it at the time that actually took place in Japan and dealt with emotional issues. No a days its not a big deal, but Digimon really pushed to keep that original Japanese feeling as much as possible when most animes, like Pokemon, would do stupid things just to take out Japanese references like calling onigiri a donut or a bento into Chinese food. There was no option for sub back then and it was greatly appreciated that they went against the grain and tried to introduce Japanese culture even if things were changed just to get it aired. And it really pisses me off when people compare Digimon as a poorman's pokemon copy. It is way better than pokemon and focuses on personal development, growth and life, while Ash is still only 10 goddamn years old and never changes.

Try dealing with the people hating on mature dubs just because they are English Dubs. That nonsense sucks & just hurts the anime industry, we need more quality dubs. Maybe Digimon Reboot Dub could be to new kids what Digimon Season 1 was to our generation if given a great dub. Also if you want a better Pokemon Experience try reading the Red Adventures Manga.

Kamiya sounds better for him imo

I remember getting a small case of depression at the realization the show was over as a kid. I was like Oh, Digimon is over? This is really sad.

This is how I am as well. Tai was my fav character but i think i encompass both Matt and Tai. I always wanted to be brave like him too.

Kefou Kefak bro this person just said he feels like he is Matt, and you just say that Matt makes you angry and annoys you... not the place lol

Matt's grown on me as well now that I've rewatched the series 1-4 after buying the Dvds. His VA also does the main character in Season 4 Frontier, Takuya.

MagnaAngemon loves one liners doesn't he

Lucha Jon Hoenstly that was the key reason I went with the Sub; Matt sounding so drastically different really messed with the nostalgic vibe I was hoping from tri. Ditto for Angemon and MagnaAngemon

I mean I doubt he couldve saved Tri.

maybe he'll come back for Digimon Adventure 2020 considering everything currently going on with Matt's current voice actor

He also did the main character in Season 4 Frontier, Takuya. He played Takuya so well that after a few minutes I was already sold on Takuya after rewatching seasons 1-4.

Daymon Williams beef jerky shake vs jelly doughnuts When Oolong tea was called beef jerky shake...

@@the-nina-beans88 I have heard about the jelly donuts but I haven't heard about the jerky shake before

Daymon Williams it was in the Digimon movie where Oolong tea was called beef jerky shakes

@@the-nina-beans88 okay, well I know they changed things like food to try and make it more familiar with a western audience but to me, I focus more on the aspects of the story such as characters and themes that was carried over. That's the parts that I find the most significant that holds more favor compared to most things done by 4kids

Daymon Williams hey I had no idea it was Oolong tea in the movie

Also, in retrospect it was wise... Technically Kari is Light Yagami

I've never seen an avatar that matches the comment so perfectly. 😂

That moment might be the funniest moment in ANY Digimon dub, and the sudden complete lack of music coupled with the kids' mortified faces is what sells it.

Many episodes of the 1st and 2nd season of Pokemon weren't bad honestly. They had some good moments That allowed the characters to feel like actual people and the Pokemon felt more like sentient emotional beings with animal instincts instead of just pets or monsters for combat. The way ash and pikachu started off on the wrong foot and slowly built trust was almost like an older brother/younger brother relationship. The constant beef with charizard seemed repetitive but it built toward an amazing moment in the episode where they battle a poliwrath and had to confront their issues head on like any relationship. It wouldn't have been as powerful if their conflict was resolved in just 2 episodes. But other than a few key moments like those, I agree the Pokemon anime was fairly mediocre at times or just downright bad. Team rocket should have been dropped a LONG time ago and were corny even by late 90's cartoons standards (it didn't take long for me and my friends to get tired of them). Ash constantly losing and getting badges due to luck/sympathy was bad writing and didn't send a good message to kids at all. They would constantly change the main cast and ash was always releasing his best Pokemon. The episodes could be very formulaic and cringey with bad jokes and predictable boring battles.

Pft, Pokemon isn't even remotely metal lol.

@@mattwo7 I'm using allegories to make a point, had you took 7th grade English?

@@Tacom4ster Have _you_ heard of "lol"?

@@Tacom4ster Also have you taken, not had you took. You're in no position to criticize someone else's English skils.

uigh , Megadeth is by far the worst of the big 4

And the American shows that actually want to treat kids more seriously-such as Infinity Train-get cancelled because of execs hating it due to being afraid that parents will throw hissy fits about what their kids are watching.

Best compliment I received all year

I was going on 18 when the show started. In general it was good. Can't bring myself to rewatch it (dub), but it's still good.

it totally deserves the hate , replacing brave heart is unforgivable

What was wrong with the music? It was the same exact composer as 90's Spider-Man. I loved every moment of it. That man was one of the reasons I now love Marvel and want to look into all the details of it.

don't know if unpopular opinion, but i gotta skip the western intro; it holds nothing to Butterfly

@@syloui It fits the character of the dub. I love it.

The music is what made the dub for me. I feel like the music played for the digivolutions in the dub is more fitting than the music played in the original. It's more engaging and upbeat, and it really sets the scene. The Japanese music is too soft and ballroom like for a transformation that's supposed to revolve around fighting dangerous characters.

@@b1njjj95 completely agree. Sometimes japanese composers are too goofy or upbeat for transformation sequences and you don't take the fight seriously. The dub made you concerned if they would actually win.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Mykasan probably for best

Mykasan they all said they were in middle school or elementary in one episode while they were in the real world

Well it shows that pedophilia exist . Ain't gonna find that in a pokémon rip-off .

@@poissonmulti-taches2742 Digimon came out 3 months before Pokemon so the ripoff narrative is just false

@@RinaShinomiyaVal No the pokémon game came out 1 year before the virtual pet Digimon but that doesn't matter with that logic super Mario is a pac man rip off .

I don't think Dub Mimi is as bad as people make her out to be. She actually has a pretty decent character arc, it's just that her dialogue from episode to episode is pretty cringey. Her Crest is changed from Purity to Sincerity, and Joe's was changed from Sincerity to Responsibility, which I actually think fits much better for both of them. Neither Mimi or Joe have some trauma haunting them like people always bring up for the other kids, but instead deal more with things that happen to them in their current lives. As early as the second episode, Mimi shirks her responsibility to carry the first aid supplies, leaving Joe to carry it, and he continues to have responsibilities shoved onto him throughout the show, against his will. It's only when Joe decides to take these challenges head on and accept the consequences does his Crest of Responsibility activate, and he can feel more comfortable going to medical school like the rest of his family. Joe never had a problem being Sincere, he never lied or broke any promises, he just needed some confidence in himself, which Gomamon even tries to help him with back in the Bakemon episode. Likewise in the Dub, Palmon actually takes a direct interest in Mimi from the get go, bluntly asking her if she thinks too much about her appearance. After the SkullGreymon episode, Mimi gives Tai some encouraging words, only to admit she said it because it sounded like the right thing to say. Then when we see her blackmailing the Gekomons, her nightmare makes her realize what she did was wrong, but she still isn't thinking about WHY it was wrong. As soon as they get to the real world, she immediately knocks Palmon over so she can meet her friends, but Mimi once breaks her pattern of selfishness and is genuinely concerned for the safety of Palmon and the others, Togemon finally becomes Lilymon. As for her parents, they're a perfectly loving couple, but you can tell that's where Mimi subconsciously learned her "If you're pretty people will be nice to you" behavior, which fits alot better with Dub Mimi's character, instead of Sub "Purity" Mimi.

yes but the sub puts her in awkward sexually implied situations and still paints her as selfish at times...they still do this in the new material...its so annoying...they claim shes very western and Americanized and spoiled by her parents which is why she has no typical asian girl manners/shame...she is more outgoing and dresses more openly and is a free spirit..shes less of a reserved shy housewife type female....she is an asian hippie basically and its seen by the writers and animators as a bad thing with how they make fun of it and point out how weird it is

Oh wow I had no idea. Davis is so douchey in the dub and not Very likeable.

Daisuke I liked à lot and in all honesty, it was the screwed up characterizations that made me drop 02's dub and watch the original. Daisuke still had a crush on Hikari, but he acted normal regarding it. He acted like a normal 11-year-old with a crush on a girl he'd known for years. In the dramas taking place after 02, Hikari does reject him which does cause him to feel down. They stopped mentioning it because it wasn't necessary and we saw how he valued his friendship with her and all of them. I just hate how badly he was treated in the dub. Davis used to go around declaring how Kari was his girl and nonsense like that. The other characters bashed him (even IZZY, one of the most politest characters, took a shot at him and he wasn't even there nor was he even the main topic of discussion....Koushirou would never do that but Izzy bugged me with his coming across as a bit arrogant...something he is not originally). It came across as if Davis disliked or didn't get along with TK when in the original it was implied that Takeru hanged over at the Motomiya home quite a bit because if his mother's late hours and that they got along fine. Not sure if it was true...but I recall someplace stating that Nimoy didn't like the character and was a Takeru x Hikari fan. I've also been told that "Davis" was better written towards the end of 02 for eps where Nimoy wasn't a writer.

In the Latin American Spanish dub, which was much more faithful to the Japanese script, Joe had the Crest of Sincerity while Mimi had the Crest of Innocence. They also referred the main characters as "Niños Elegidos" (lit. Chosen Children)

That would be amazing but there are too many unknowns to even make an educated guess

If we do, it's probably still going to be hit by a whole bunch of censorship from Nick's censors of things Fox and Disney allowed... Like the return of Blue Laser-Shooting Deputymon. Although, seeing as it's a reboot they'll probably redub it with idiotic botched direct romanizations like SlushAngemon.

Probably. They brought back most of the cast for Tri.

i doubt it because 2 of the voice actors have passed away so they would need to recast the rolls the 2 voice actors did

Terry Syvertson who of them passed away?

It sounds like the sound effect used a lot in naruto as well

@@marfur9 my thought exactly. Sounds like a flute.