Was the Empire Actually Good? Were the Rebels Terrorists? Star Wars Lore Explained 

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Actually the Republic was pretty corrupt too. They had a policy of "you're with us or against us" and were very messed up when it came to dealing with separatist ideals

Reminds me of that scene from VeggieTales: "I miss Egypt. Three square meals a day, snorkeling in the Nile, those were the days." "...We were in slavery!" "Nothing's poifect."

From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!

This video is pure rebel propaganda.

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That's all rebel propaganda!

was the republic a democracy because it seemed more like a oligarchy to me.

Let's ask a long standing planet that lived in peace under the Empire for their opinion. Alderaan, what d oyou think? Alderaan: *DEAD SILENCE* Maybe they need a moment.

Is this a question?of course we were good,why did you think stormtroopers had white colour?why do you think empire's ships' laser color was green and rebels' red?

I support the empire and here are my counter arguments 1. Although unchecked democracy works on a backwater world like sole 3, the Republic gave power to corrupt people, that let senators focus on themselves rather than the people 2. Alderaan was supplying the rebels, while I agree that Alderaan's destruction was horrible and I don't support it, however It was like the bombing of Hiroshima, it was done to disarm the rebels and to force them to surrender before a bigger war starts that kills millions more than the people of Alderaan 3. People where only not allowed to own guns or ships in areas that had a lot of violence, this was to lessen the danger to stormtroopers as well to prevent civilian casualties 4. In Rebels season 1 we see people talk bad about the empire such as old Joe, and the Imperial stormtroopers just take the insult, the only time stormtroopers ever gave people trouble was if they tried to bribe a stormtrooper or sell illegal stuff also illegal in our world" or if they where,not registered( the only reason they had to was to prevent people from secretly selling weapons and drugs that can harm civilians) 5. As A Thrawn supporter I DONT APPROVE OF AILEAN SLAVERY, however if the rebels never existed than Thrawn would of been able to change it, and The galaxy is a big place there are races that want to kill all humans, it is possible for aliens that eat human children meat to survive exists and if that is the case it is a must to see that whole alien race wiped out to save human lives) ( though I'd love to know what you think about that example) 6. The reason the empire took over the galaxy wasn't just to control it but to United it, when every planet was under its own rule they where still divided and that led to the clone wars, a galaxy United under one banner is a galaxy that won't fight itself 7. Speciesism wasn't created by the empire, thanks to corrupt senators it was already imbedded into the minds of people, for the empire to put an end to it would be to take away the right of free speech Now let's talk about the Rebels and why in my personal opinion where in the wrong 1. In return of the Jedi that used 3po they threaten the Ewoks with death if they didn't let Luke go, this would be justified if the rebels stoped there and went on with there mission but instead they threatened to wipe them out unless they fought the Empire. The rebels used the innocent, but delicious Ewoks as body shields, the Empire on the other hand avoided the Ewoks villages to avoid disturbing the locals and only shoot at the Ewoks in self-defense 2. After Luke escaped Jabba's barge he blew it up, however all the bad guys on board where already dead, the only people still on where slaves, so Luke murdered people without remorse 3. they helped and accepted help from Saw who was a known war criminal 4. They helped the Jedi, a cult that kidnaped and brainwashed children, and used those children as child soldiers 5. The rebels let 14 year old kids fight, the empire only let 18 year olds fight However I don't think the Rebels are evil, the Empire still has evil, but the Rebels are unknowingly getting into Thrawn's way and stoping him from peacefully changing the Empire

"Is it true? I'll give my opinion."

1 they elected palpatine. It was senate's choice to be ruled by palpatine 2 the republic's democracy wasn't perfect. People didn't wote for the chancellors.

The thing is that Palpatine was a sociopath and made many other sociopaths high-ranking officers of the Empire. But after his death, Thrawn and Pellaeon were definitely good leaders of the Empire though Thrawn did do continue some questionable practices with the Noghri. Then the best leader of the Empire was Jagged Fel and his successors, as they were firm but fair and allowed the Imperial Knights, a middle of the road though light-side leaning Force User organization, to keep the peace as was necessary. So, yes, Palpatine's Empire was definitely bad, however the later leaders such as Thrawn and Pellaeon (with the exception of Daala) made the Empire a respectable and decent organization.

Like many others, I believe the Empire could've been a decent organization if anyone other than Palpatine was at the helm. Even Vader would have made a much better leader as he wouldn't enact slavery or destroy planets. The Empire could've and should've worked, but Palpatine pushed the people of the galaxy much too far.

"Is it true?" "From a certain point of view."

Can u rly call alderann a peaceful planet when the government secretly send ships to aid the rebellion. And their princess next ruler of alderann is a rebel. Don't cut the rebels too short to an extent they were terriorists, the partisans would blow up moffs even if there were hundreds of children. So at the same time they made the rebels look bad and gave imperials a reason to fight. And the rebel allowed their own to kill hundreds of innocents I remember reading mothma in the aftermath trilogy getting tired of waiting for senators. And referred to palpatine ruling doing something control. This is probably why the new republic got destroyed by the first order because of the senators taking a long time to do anything.

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#empire is good #rebelsareterrorists

All necessary for the triumph of evil is that good man do nothing. -Edmund Burke.

I always felt that the core worlds and the mid rim were fairly well off at the expense of the outer rim and alien populated worlds.

Good or bad, there's one thing that the Empire and Rebels have in common: They hate sand because it gets EVERYWHERE.

While I guess it does for the definition of fascism, the empire always reminded me more of older colonial empires like the Dutch and the British empires then the new model fascism of the 1930's. They were not just xenophobic to aliens but outer rim humans were dismissed like the colonials and although they styled themselves as militarized they really only mobilised a small fraction of the potential resources they could of had available due to a lack of infrastructure and technology to build and maintain such a military. The semistate-owned nature of large industry monopolies does describe both.

The Empire itself was not evil but its leader was. I think that the Empire is actually much better than the Republic as the Republic is unable to effectivly control the galaxy and is far to corrput. The Empire was more effective but had a very, very, VERY evil emperor. Fel is an example of how the emperor should be. And the Rebels were terrorists, they used violence and threats to achive a political goal and that is what a terrorist does. It doesn't matter if they are good or not nor what their goal or reasons are. Using violence and threats to achive a political or religious (which was the case for Luke and other rebel Jedi) goal makes you a terrorist

"And that is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause"

Eck, do Thrawn vs Thel 'Vadam. I will not give up.

I have to disagree with you. I am in no way condoning Palpatine's actions, however, they may be partially justified. I will be using the Legends continuity, and the Yuuzan Vong to prove a point. Imposing a dictatorial régime was not a bad decision, because it would prevent the people from rebelling and weakening the galaxy before the Vong invasion. Nationalising many companies brought along a stable economy, and controlling the market meant an even better economy that would fuel the Imperial war machine. The xenophobia was imposed to somewhat justify alien slavery, but that doesn't make it right. The Senate was, even during the Republic, a corrupt and weak organisation, run by idiots and sell-outs to the highest bidder. By dissolving it, Palpatine ensured that none would oppose his reforms to defend against the Vong. Plus, not all imperials were evil, some were good and some were true realists (Thrawn) which saw the Empire as a short-term solution. Thrawn wanted to replace the Emperor with a fair, if not partially democratic, ruler, and Palpatine would certainly not live forever. Again, I am not supporting Palpatine, but I can justify his actions from an impartial point of view.

Probably should follow this video with "Are the Separatists the real good guys in the Clone Wars" since I've seen that argument as well since throughout the Clone Wars, We see Palpatine slowly transform the Republic into the Empire and a lot of people in the CIS were fighting for freedom from the Republic.

I don't necessarily disagree about the empire being a morally evil government (at least as it's portrayed) however the Republic before was far from a shining beacon of democracy as it is generally portrayed (which is established within canon) 1. rampant corruption was commonplace throughout all aspects of government across the galaxy. 2. As there was no centralized military until the clone wars, systems relied on "local militias" to protect individual systems, and tbh most of these "militias" would be just gangs of criminals or mercenaries who only answered to money. 3. The republic was an authoritarian who did not respect the rights of their smaller member nations, and focused most policies toward the core systems and the corporations who bankrolled various politicians, this is why the CIS attempted to break away from the Republic and form their own galactic coalition. 4. While not as pronounced as in the Empire, speciesism was still very commonplace throughout the Republic, and the slave trade was merely underground, but still a thriving business. Now did the rebels have a novel and righteous cause? Yes, however they were still terrorists, and in all reality did more harm to innocent civilians, and imperial employees just trying to make things better, rather than the actual evil leaders of the government. Furthermore the empire would in all likelihood need to reform into a more fair and mellow government, however the rebellion only further justified the harsh conditions employed by the Empire. (Remember that the empire was formed right off the back of a galactic civil war, and at least half the nation's in the known galaxy harbored huge resentments against the Republic/Empire because they lost)

#TheEmpireDidNothingWrong

Obi-won said that only millions died, so that’s less than about 10 million people dead. Also it was a high rebel planet. And Leila after a while didn’t seem worried about her home being destroyed.

The problem with the empire isn't the empire itself, it's the leaders. The ideals of the empire are ok. A strong government that can actually enforce its laws. A strong leader who can quickly pass greatly needed l laws without having to wait for months for the senate to do anything. A military that can police the Galaxy, putting down pirates and criminal scum. Ik legends the imperial remnant and fel empire are good bc actually enforcing most of the empires ideals but with good leaders meant that they were actually good. Hell the reason the fel empire became so powerful despite originally being a small rump state was they were stable and prosperous where as the New Republic and Galactic Alliance were plagued by corruption, incompetence, and political scandals. World after world left and joined the empire bc they could get shit done.

Well yea the empire was good and the rebels were the bad guys

fascism is in fact extremely effiecient in war time, it gets things done, while democracy doesn't

I personally believe that the Empire was good. They had some questionable tactics sure, but there seemed to be peace, freedom, justice, and security.

"Terrorists" by definition target civilians and non-military assets (bombing a hospital, cyberattacks that cripple the economy, etc) with the intent of causing *terror* in the population. This can be done to either cripple an enemy nation, intimidate your own people into submission, or make a government appear weak and unable to protect its citizens. Saw Guerera's Partisans were terrorists. They massacred a party celebrating the inauguration of an Imperial governor, not discriminating between civilian and military targets or even between supporters and non-supporters of the Empire. The First Order are terrorists. They used money laundered through crime cartels to fund groups that carried out bombings on non-military political targets in the New Republic, and ultimately destroyed an entire star system to make a political point. The *Empire* were terrorists. Grand Moff Tarkin's philosophy, along with that of most of the Imperial leadership, on dealing with insurgency and rebellion was to strike fear into the hearts of Imperial citizens so that they would not dare disobey. Alderaan is, of course, the prime example of this. The Alliance to Restore the Republic was not a terrorist organization. It exclusively targeted military assets like the first and second Death Stars, Skystrike Academy, Imperial shipyards at Kuat and Fondor, military bases on Lothal and Endor, and many more examples. They would, at times, kill unarmed people; however, this was done not to inspire fear and destabilize the non-military infrastructure, but rather to complete a mission successfully, escape with their own lives, deprive the Imperial military of one of its military scientists, or would otherwise be a necessary consequence of self-defense and justified military engagement (i.e. any non-combatants who died on the Death Stars).They used guerrilla tactics that we, westerners whose military is by far the largest and most advanced in the world today, identify with terrorism, but that by no means makes them anything even somewhat resembling terrorists, unintentional civilian casualties aside.

The problem with both Legends and canon is they've portrayed The Republic as an essentially useless political entity. I mean, in all seriousness, it simply looks like a stodgy bureaucratic nightmare with loads of corrupt and self-interested politicians who don't actually fucking DO anything. I mean, it's quite astonishing how this 'UN in space' never seems to be put to good use. In the OT we are told about the Republic as if it represents a 'Golden Age' and then we see it in the prequels and it's a den of wankers. Honestly, if you want me to care about the Rebels cause, let me at least see why this Republic is supposed to be a good thing - rather than just relying on abstract principles like 'democracy' and 'rule of law'. Then, we learn from the new canon novels that the Republic is finally restored and within a few years it's already broken down in to factions and in-fighting. WTF? If you're not going to show the audience why the Republic is such a great thing, don't be surprised if they don't understand why they should care about it. Palpatine may have been a nasty fucking tyrant but he managed to achieve more in a few years than the Republic did in bloody hundreds.

Eckharts is a traitor

"but the Empire made the passenger starships run on time!"

ill never look at the rebels the same again, there pretty evil

The concept I see in star wars, it's that the Rebels are the bad guys who are secretly the good guys, and the Empire are the good guys who are secretly the bad guys, that's every interesting concept. 🙄

- Were there any Sith that ever turned to the light side? - What do things cost in the Star Wars universe? (Maybe make a chart for it)

Eck, it is so refreshing to see someone out there who doesn’t think of the Empire as good. I agree with you 100 percent; how the Empire was bad and that the Rebel Alliance was justified. You made tons of good points, and it mystifies me to see that people disagree. Fight me, bucket-heads!

'The Galactic Empire was bad'. All you ever did in the video was talk about the bad things the Empire did, but you never looked at EVERYTHING the Rebels did. Rebel attacks destroyed infrastructure (bad for the economy), and killed more civilians than the Empire ever did (Death Stars, bombing runs, etc). For each Death Star destroyed, the galactic economy takes a bit of a dive. And when Palpatine is killed, the economy and stock market both hit zero at the same time as total anarchy hits. Take total anarchy from a country here on earth, and scale it up to galactic level! I haven't bothered to go into full detail yet, but you can be quite sure that the Rebels were still worse than the Empire. Please add to this or make counter-arguments, because I'm hoping to get a solid Empire vs Rebels debate here.

It depends ...Sometimes people need a strong leader and sometimes it don't ...no matter ; our current solution becomes our future problem .

The Republic was too susceptible to corruption & needed a change. They even showed that same fallacy in the Old Republic era.

Reinassance: "Human progress is infinite" 2019: "Is blowing a planet apart bad?"

Well this is a point of view, but I disagree to some extent. At first Alderan was never "peaceful" as is shown in new canon even more open than ever before. Bail Organa did take part in high rank meeting of the rebels and said in the end of the meeting he would return and tell the people that the war will continue. His daughter did send even before ships to terrorists in rebels (and Bail did help terrorist cells with weapon and money etc.). The Empire did also let at least some degree of freedom to the local government to run their own things. Alderan was never under direct Imperial rule, and governments like this kingdom could run a lot of things the way they want. The Empire did let subgroups a lot of freedom if they were no threat and cooperate. The Senate existet for nearly 20 years before Palpatine removed him, what may be also due to the role several senetors played in the rise of the rebellion. What is also ignored is that the Empire crush on local pirate bands and supress civil wars (in legends it is hintet that they re-occur at once after the fall of the Empire, and if the new canon would be honest, it would be similar). Also to call the Empire fascist is difficult. They have not a stringent ideology which is nearly similar to fascism (and even less to national-socialism). There is much less try to mobilize the people in youth- and adult-organisazions, there is no "imperial party" or something like that. They did use propaganda, yes, but much more in the way of "ordinary" authoritarian states. There is rascism, but rascism is nothing specific fascist (we had in human history a lot of empires, states and democracies/republics who were rascist to a extent eaquel or maybe even beyond the Empire you hardly could call them fascist). What connect the Empire to fascism is mainly optical - the uniforms etc. If you go to the core of fascism and national socialism as ideologies you find a lot of different things (which make them - especial the German kind - in my eyes much more dangerous, radical and brutal). A national-socialist government of the scale of the Galaxy would be a VERY different thing. Also I have to add that Thrawn was by far not the only Alien who could rise in the ranks of the Empire. Mas Amedda was one of Palpatines most trusted allys, and the emporer had zero problems with his alien inquisitors. I guess this are just examples among others.

Take off that Officer cap , REBEL SYMBATHIZER

Empires are not bad, Palpatine's was.

And in the Legends book rogue squadron we actually find out that if you were brave enough as a lawyer to stand up for the innocent against the Empire you would pretty much lose your business and had chance of being arrested or worse because one of the former pilots actually was a lawyer and that's why he fights against the Empire

Just for an interesting comparison, maybe you could analyze the Imperium of Man then make a comparison to the Galactic Empire on who was morally right, who had a more effective structure, and which you would have lived in (or would have preferred to side with since no one wants to live in the 40k universe!). Would make for an interesting video. :>

I'd say the Empire is good. But that is just because I want to eat a good Grilled Ewok Sandwich, while I wear a nice uniform and my stormtroopers execute twi'leks :')

I disagree. I say instead of 100% rotten, the Empire was 80% rotten. The core worlds are a huge exception to the Empire's evil. I know, I know, the Outer Rim was super oppressed and the rebels were somewhat justified in that regard. But the Imperials who truly believed in the Empire and weren't trying to or partaking in horrible acts were good people. Still, with the core world exceptions, the insane evil of the Empire in the Outer Rim makes the Empire evil overall. But the rebels were still mostly terrorists. Except for the cells closest to Mon Mothma and were more protesting and stuff.

In Palpatine's name, forward!!!!

We’ve always heard that more people joined the Rebellion due to what the Empire did to Alderaan. What about the civilians killed on the Death Star? That would also make people want to join the Imperials. The Battle Of Yavin just escalated the emotions for and against both sides to more people. There is no simplicity to war. Peace is never achieved with perfection.

Empire building challenge Guidelines 1. You are the head of this Empire. 2. Choose your capital. 3. Chose one Supreme Commander for your military. 4. You have five fleets in your Navy chose one character from legends or cannon as your Commander for each fleet and chose two Lieutenants for them. 5. Your Navy must consist of one ship for each class those classes being a Battleship, Frigate, Destroyer, Corvette, Carrier/Command ship, Troop Transport and a Gunship any ship from legends or cannon can be used your only limitation is you can’t pass the New Republic Era. 6. Your Star Fighter Core must be made up of a Regular Star Fighter, Interceptor, Multirole Star Fighter, Bomber, and a Recon fighter. Same rules as guideline number five. 7. Pick five special forces units any group goes. 8. Pick one special Capital ship for you and your Supreme Commander. 9. Pick one Force Sensitive group as your Secret Service. 10. NO SUPER WEAPONS 11. Ground Commanders and ground armies are optional.

What if the Sith were the "good" guys all along? I mean, it could be said that the Sith only turned "evil" due to being exiled by Jedi who feared their power. Being able to unleash your emotion for a burst of power could be a useful ability, but the Jedi just turned it away, perhaps corrupting the Sith by making them gain hatred for the light side.

The Empire would have been much better er without Palpatine. I think Vader would have been a better ruler.

The Empire, under Sith rule, was evil. However, I do believe the galaxy needs an Imperial rule. That's why I absolutely LOVE the Fel Empire. It took away a lot of the evil flaws that the original Galactic Empire had. It removed the Sith rule (though the Emperor, at least Roan Fel, was typically Force-sensitive and trained to wield a lightsaber), it removed the xenophobia, it gave citizens more rights, etc. I REALLY hope that Disney brings back the Fel Empire or at least turns the First Order into an empire more like the Fel Empire. As a monarchist and a HUGE Star Wars fan, it's disappointing to see that no one even stops for a moment to consider the possibility that if you had an Empire not under Sith rule, it'd be a LOT better.

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The galactic empire was more of a meritocracy rather than a fascist government. If your looking for a real fascist government, look at the imperium from warhammer 40k.

Now, if the Rebels hadn’t existed, there would be no widespread violence in the galaxy. Ep. IV: The Rebels cause the death and destruction of a planet and many cultures. The sheer stupidity of the terrorist leaders cause them to give away their base’s position. This also happened because of the wit of the Imperial commanders. During the Battle of Yavin, the Rebels killed 1.1 million plus troops. These men had families, now ruined families. Ep. V: During the Battle of Hoth, the clumsiness of the same Rebel leader caused the Empire to find the Rebel base. The Empire steamrolled across the barren wasteland. Next, at Cloud City, Bespin, Darth Vader shows mercy to the clumsy Rebel leader, by inviting him to dinner. The leader impolitely declined the offer, and fought back. The greatness of Darth Vader defeated him. Vader’s son decided to disobey his father. His father showed his son even more mercy. Ep. VI: The terrorists dragged the sidelined planet of Tatooine into the war. They attacked the home of a citizen of Tatooine, in hopes of saving one person. They injured Boba Fett for Pete’s sake! Then, they move to yet another massacre of Imperial employees at Endor. During the battle, they killed another 1.1 million plus soldiers. Heck, they killed Darth Vader!This is unacceptable for manly warfare. They need to sit and be humble.

"My opinion on a lore videa" kinda sounds weird

I think Stormtroopers joined because they thought it was the right thing to do sure the empire was seen as evil but still all most of them wanted was law and order

I must say I disagree they brought peace and stability to the galaxy.

*Destroys an entire planet just to make a point* "iS tHe EmPiRe GoOd?"

You know how when Alberan was destroyed, Kenobi said, millions, not half a dozen million, there was no proof of the empire genocide or slaved, you know how they provided so many with food on the table, how they directed traffic on tattooine, and gave Han a name, Solo

I highly recommend the book Lost Stars for anyone who wants a story which shows the good side of the Empire.

Ok so you mentioned that the empire clamped down on the sale of both ships and weapons. One would assume you could easily get past this by simply manufacturing your own. I have to wonder if the alliance kept capital ships in the role of mobile factory?

It’s far more interesting to have things grey rather than black and white.

Is it just me , or is that helmet only used once in the entire history of star wars and then never seen again on the Death Star ?

Man, I KNEW from just reading the title of the video that the comments would be filled with Imperial fanboys that can't accept that the Empire were the villains.

Most of the galaxy had no idea a space wizard was in control of their government. By the way Jedi and Sith when it boils down to it have more similarities than differences.

Alderaan gave ammunitions to rebels who used them arms against the Empires battle of arms.

You will never convince me to betray my master- Starkiller

All this is just rebel propaganda

Well, this is a very interesting topic, here's my take on it: the republic had a corrupt leader, which led to him seizing power (like many dictators in real life) and creating a fashist dictatorship, the empire had a full military government aswell and it was a pity that such a big nation would fall to with corruption, but to me honestly no side was correct the rebels were just another group that fought for their political interests just like the CIS and the Empire no one is the real hero (just like in real life)

It comes down to leadership like in everything else. Both sides had driven, fanatical leaders seeking to destroy the other side regardless of the casualties. But, the Empire gets the bad rap for having the more destructive weapons.

I think that without the Sith influence within the republic and Sith hands orchestrating galactic scale events. The republic could have possibly worked. there were many senators and peoples on both sides of the clone war that wished for the fighting to stop but the actual villains (The Mega-corporations and Sith) Needed the fighting for greater profits and political influence. hence the attack on Coruscant in the clone wars series

Any Independent Contractor working on the Death Star knew the risks involved when they took the job

One thing: Alderan was not peaceful. They were basically the home of the Rebels. They were a military target, and in war, you have to do what it takes to win.

7:25 What’s wrong with the Sith?

Wasn't the empire essentially The Starwars space nazis...?

What if Empire was good? Aka, no slavery and no "Evil plants" or working with criminals. Or to put it differently, what if Galactic empire was more like Fel Empire from legends during galactic civil war?

I think the Empire was more of a "Chaotic Good". They did a lot of horrible shit, but a good chunk of the Galaxy got stronger from it. The rebels forced the production of more War assets. Had this not happened, must of it could have gone elsewhere. Some parts of the Galaxy would have still been fucked, but hey. Majority over Minority.

I'm with the empire, I doesn't matter if people can influence politics or not, the main thing is that the empire really brought order and security after all. The galwxis would have forever been safe from any threat

The EMPIRE was way better than the republic and the new republic

EckhartsLadder: Provides facts, logic, and basic morally to prove the empire was evil. Edgy Teens: Propaganda! You’re wrong! Roar!

Maybe the Empire COULD’VE been a force for good if it accepted everyone, allowed others to express their views, didn’t try to instill fear, didn’t commit atrocities such as genocide and didn’t have a Sith Lord ruling it. This is why I can’t ever like them. They are literally space Nazis. Maybe not all the people in the Empire are malevolent but most were. Sure they have some cool tech but that’s it, they were still a tyrannical regime.

Say what you will about the Death Star, but even Han Solo admitted it'd have been great to have against the Yuuzhan Vong. It could have saved billions of lives during that war in legends, far more than were lost in the unjustifiable destruction of Alderaan.

I am pretty sure the Empire blew up Alderaan because it housed an abundant amount of Rebel troops and weapons

While yes the Empire in much of the way it operated and in what it did was evil I would argue that it was a necessary evil. The Republic was just as corrupt as the Empire, the Empire was just open and honest about it, and the Jedi had completely lost their way. Nothing but the cleansing fire of the Empire and the Purge could've changed things and made for the rebirth we see later. What do you think of the version of the Empire we see in the Legacy comics?

Yes, I know that what I bring up is Legends. Note that I don't care, they still count as the Empire.

Lore, Imperial bioweapons

If he only wanted to prepare the galaxy from an outsider invasion then why didn’t he just focus on militarizing the republic?

1:04 lies, deception

Could someone tell me was there ever an capital ship ugly? Anyone?

Smh, I accuse you of treason against our glorious empire! For the Empire!

After seeing the video as well as seeing the comments, the whole conversation was in a grey area. The whole topic can go both ways, but in my opinion, I agree with eckarts completely. Although the rebels did certain things which would make them seem evil, they just did what had to be done, and the empire was subjugated to the sinister emperor.