Were the Jedi Really Good Guys? 

The more I think about the Jedi, the more I sympathize with Luke's disillussion on them. Even if their existence DOES inspire hope on the galaxy, they should probably not have that much power ever again.

I’ve always had this in the back of my mind watching Star Wars. The Jedi weren’t good guys, they were better guys than the Sith.

Yes. They were. Saying otherwise means you are wrong. Simple as.

In some ways, the Jedi are just as bad as the Sith.

Yes, the Jedi are the good guys, you know, those guys fighting against the literal satan of their universe. The sith and disney are the bad guys.

If I choose between the Jedi or Sith order? I would pick the Jedi every time because they stand for peace and justice teaches people how to be responsible for using the force without falling to the dark side sure they are flaw but no knightly order is perfect it just shows that they had more to learn to be better protectors and I can live with that. As for the Sith while I can understand the appeal of the Sith order and there code felt more relatable to normal people but using the dark side isn’t reliable long term. If it was Sith like Darth Marr and Darth Malgus in the old republic yeah I would willing follow them because they actually care for the Sith empire more than themselves but if it Sith like Darth Nihlius,Valkorian,Sidious,and others like them than no. So yeah I choose the Jedi as for lightsaber color for me I want a natural red color lightsaber for my primary lightsaber because I want to redeem the red color lightsaber cause in the end of the day colors are subjective and for my secondary lightsaber will be green for wisdom.

So we all understand that the clones were slaves and the Jedi were fine with that right? Just like they were fine with Anakin's mum staying a slave

Not all the Jedi were 'good guys'. Jedi like ki Adi Mundi, Jorus C'boath, Cypher Diaz, Count Dooku & many others had issues. Arrogance being one of them.

The weird thing about the Jedi's fighting tactics is that they really are the result of giving people with no experience leading troops or combat experience beyond the skirmish level the rank of general and throwing them into mass combat after millenia of peace. The big question is how much of that was deliberate in the movie of just a post hoc interpretation that proved to fit?

Clone wars shouldn’t count, every character was mischaracterized so the order was as well. Also, the Jedi were effectively slaves as well

i'd like to rephrase.

I wouldnt say the Jedi or the Mandelorians or any faction in star wars is fully good and without flaws. Part of what makes this series interesting. I like when characters use criticising the Jedi to do something bad because those arguments hit harder and are more narritively interesting if they have some merit.

I think one of the biggest issues of the Jedi Order isn't even mentioned here: There major role in escalating the separatist crisis to a galactic-scaled war.

It is striking to ear Obi Wan answering to Anakin : only a sits deals in absolutes, what about Yoda then "do or do not, there is no try" he must be a sith according to them.

Where the Jedi the good guys?

I don't know how good the Jedi are but they're at least better than the mandalorians I don't think the reason that the weekend with the force was because they're closer to the dark side I think it's because they are more closed off from the Galaxy than ever before.. if you look at Legends and Canon the Jedi do some pretty horrible things before the prequel era hey Google start using abilities as a non-standard they don't even have to be dark side abilities per se. I'd save a prequel era Jedi are actually the most moral since they founded the Jedi tradition

They were fanatics who thought they were doing good...but Lukes approach of a more neutral approach and just trying to do good with action instead of all the rules and fanatisism

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I would argue that yes they were. They taught and were taught all the right moral lessons and they genuinely were trying to help the galaxy. That said good people can do great evil when mislead. I also do think that while their lessons were correct, their dogmatic approach to teaching those lessons were harmful. It is ok to love and it is ok to have attachments so long as those attachments don’t turn to possession, and so long as you are able to let go of those attachments and accept loss without turning to hatred.

Lmao at pixelated Jar Jar.