Was the FD2 the Last Great Civic Type-R? | A Nostalgic Struggle. 

I agree. Never selling my 2008 SI

@@fhowland been looking for one for the longest with low miles but they are either not for sale or they have over 100k miles

@@Jcastro9444 yeah finding a clean low mileage type r is almost impossible!

Still driving my jdm rsx-s

@Roads Unraveled, the closest ever I got to an FD2 civic was the Acura CSX. imported successfully to California and still babying it. Yes manual transmission and bone stock =)

Definitely! Im converting the rear end of my Si to the JDM taillights.

Yeah i agree together with the ek9

obviously

Best looking civic

Wait a couple more months though…..

Very true

Alot of ppl have this misconception of the EP3 shifter as being awkward. Its one of those things where you just have to "try it for yourself " to get it.

I think it inspired Honda to raise the shifter for all 8th gen Civics onward to the present day. There's now a bracket that raises the shifter higher, which isn't present on the comparable DC5 Integra (RSX) of the same generation as the EP3.

Definitely agree

I do just love the idea of the original EK and EP shorter wheelbase chuckability, just always looked like an awkward interior. Would love to drive one sometime!

@@RoadsUntraveled think driving an EP3 will definitely change your opinion, very popular cars here in England. Understandable styling isn’t as nice as other cars shifter doesn’t look like the best place. But being closer to the steering wheel does make it more driver focused.

@@ToxCcc I personally love the way EP3's look, I never used to, same as the FN2. but as the years have gone on, I've come to love the styling

@@Jmsborland97 think I was the same growing up I preferred the EG and EK shape but as the EP3 get older and rarer they've aged like wine.

As a 2010 Si owner I completely agreee

Appreciate that! It won't be every video, but it's something I love to do

Life is short. Make it happen! from a Fd2r owner

@@kos5120 They cannot be Legally imported into America.

Civic SI is close

@@fhowland A Civic Si is nowhere near a FD2 Civic Type-R, the Type-R is in a completely different universe.

@@deet4895 I wouldn't say a different universe, the Si is close enough you can build off of to get near a FD2 experience

Aaahh I didn't know that! Couple months makes all the difference. FD2 built in Japan means a lot, too.

The FN2 isnt a real type R tho so...

@@TheFK8Life That statement makes zero sense, but okay.

​@@GazMonty ​ Lots of people would claim that the FN2 is more like a Type S or Si which is labelled "Type R" merely for marketing purposes. Which is reasonably fair IMO. Each to their own, I find still mine a lot of fun and quite like having the sound insulation and somewhat softer suspension lol (I had the DC5 Type R with it's lack of sound insulation and harder suspension found that a little bit annoying for an everyday car TBH). I don't mind at all that the FN2 is a car more akin to a Prelude VTEC than a "hardcore" JDM Type R.🙂 Regardless, some people still complain about the FN2's ride compared to the cars like the Focus XR5 (ST) or Mk5 Golf GTI and say that FN2 is too sporty and stiff compared to those... so make your mind up folks! Is it too soft or too hard, which is it, lol. It did start the trend of modern Civic Type Rs being fully loaded with cruise control, still having sound insulation etc. To defend the FN2, it does share a LOT of parts with the FD2 (gearbox and LSD (where fitted, which mine does have thankfully) is exactly the same, flywheel is exactly the same (the later lightweight 5kg version), shifter is exactly the same, cylinder head casting is exactly the same (the later RSP version that flows better) albeit with the customary milder cam profile of non-JDM models, the seats are the same apart from the fabric etc). It still has alloy control arms unlike the Civic Si too, albeit it only has the same brakes as the Si.

Im about to turbo my fd2, should be fun

Glad you noticed haha. Great, clean example too.

🙏🏼

Sounds like a weed wacker

It’s Remus valved exhaust with Remus fp and PRL catless dp

It was a missed opportunity this video.. Looking for some track time so we can make it happen :D

Yeah. I was confused when he said that. No way!!

I'd love to! Never seen one before. I'd imagine they don't come up for sale too often for export into North America

I have spoken with RU-vid support about this! Fix should be coming. Thanks for your patience :D

Stock I’ll give it to the dc5 but IMO the integra lacks aftermarket customization compared to the 8th gen civic

Time to move on

Sure, but they can both be fun, no? 🙂 IMO, for an everyday road car having less power and being able to use more of it (and more of the revs) more of the time is more fun. I'm glad to see the Toyota GR86/Subaru BRZ still using an old fashioned naturally aspirated high-revving (one of the last affordable cars to still have that), as much as some say that would rather see the torquey engine from the WRX (with it's 6000rpm redline...) in that car. Thankfully the FK8's engine does still rev out pretty well. Honda are not trying to make the old car obsolete, they just are evolving it and making something different and (mostly) improved. Some people prefer the EK9, which is even slower than the FD2 again! Granted, for what the FD2s cost now (as much as used FK8 or more for a car that's 10 years older), I'm not sure that's worth it... It seems to be more of a collector car now (FD2s used to be more reasonably priced, maybe 50% more than a comparable FN2 or Civic Si, rather than three or four times the price!).

:( It'll come soon enough. Try out an S15 Silvia or R34 Skyline while you wait ;) Those are legal within the next 12-24 months.

@@RoadsUntraveled that's true an S15 would be beautiful

Go out and explore! Plenty to find in BC. Glad you enjoyed the Type-Rs

But sounds like a vacuum /: fd2 is the better looking n sounding type r + u can always add a supercharger on it if u want fast

@@rubenruiz5795 i agree it's not the best noise on the market having owned an fk8 in the past but like the video says, the dailies and modern comforts of driving one, yeah... i really did enjoy my purchase, so much so that I'm actually considering buying another! :) (Maybe do something about the noise too with some aftermarket, lol )

@@rubenruiz5795. Add a supercharger if I want fast? Flash the FK8, & you get faster than a supercharger.

you can techically, but not worth time and money

No - just buy a Type R

@@kotarojujo2737 I wouldn't go that far to say there is no benefit. Perhaps just fit the Type R final drive (5.1) to the existing Si transmission (instead of Si's 4.8, so the 5.1 gives 6% more torque at the wheels in every gear). At the same time as fitting either the factory FD2 lightweight flywheel (5kg) or an aftermarket lightweight flywheel (4kg) in place of the Si's heavier 8ky flywheel (which is the older generation DC5/EP3 flywheel). That should get most of the benefits transmission-wise that the Type R has. If going forced induction I guess these little 6% gains are not important, but for NA, every little bit helps IMO! The LSD is otherwise probably the same or very similar, and the gear ratios of the Si are otherwise the same as the older EP3/DC5 Type R. I think the FD2 ratios have a tighter spread than the DC5/EP, but it's not a big difference.

I hope dude put up video of driving one to eat those comments

Nope

@@RoadsUntraveled You’re missing out on that gear stick position. I always wanted one and when I seen the gear stick it put me off, until I drove one and it just made sense.

Right?? Incredibly wide for a factory car based off an economy platform.

Both amazing cars fa5 will always be the best

@@Red-ev8ls lol best at what? The front suspension on the FA5 is limited and the FK8 is on another level - the FL5 just went 2:58:8 at VIR - fwd production record. Technology advances - just the way it goes.

I feel like when things are non turbocharged people complain, but then when we get a turbo, people still complain and it’s why we can’t have nice things