Was This Fortnite’s Biggest Mistake? 

Honestly, my main problem is how Epic Games feels the need to introduce a new villain every season. I'm so sick of it. I get that they want to add cool looking evil skins to the battle pass. But everytime they do it, it means less y'know? Like, back then, lets say, astreiod that hit Dusty Depot. That was awesome, confusing and scary. Like, "what does this mean for the island?". We never saw something like that before. It was so unique to have a world that felt alive in a battle royale. You just don't get that with Fortnite anymore.

the only horrendous thing about reload is dying mid-late game and respawning. you immediately get shot out of the sky because you're forced to pull out your glider/umbrella and cant land immediately to find loot again so you're basically canned for the rest of the game unless you're lucky

I think the simplicity of OG Fortnite is what really makes it work, regardless of the nostalgia factor. Sometimes it feels like you have to complete a checklist during the mid-game to attain a victory in modern Fortnite. Every new mechanic creates a learning curve for better or worse.

Fortnite needs to stop bringing weapons back with redesigns it's incredibly annoying

the combination of wrecked being one of the most divisive seasons to date (I loved it until the nerf) and the fact that the mode is really new and imo better than og (it isn't slow, 100% chest spawn rate and you don't waste half of the match just searching for shields or fighting bots) I think it makes sense for reload to be the most played mode. I'm curious to see the number after two months the mode being out and the new marvel season on top of that. I personally think Reload saved fortnite for the long run, I've stopped playing BR for a couple of days now but thanks to reload now I switch between the two modes, it even made BR feels refreshing. If you get bored of one mode you just jump into the other, two completely different experiences.

The fact that reload was presented as OG fortnite may cause a problem This map will eventually get stale and they have 4 chapters to pull pois from but if people think it is og fortnite they wouldnt like the map changes

Fortnite's biggest mistake was not just add new things to the game, but adding new things that simply became the center of the whole game, with unbalanced items. Innovation is indispensable for the game to continue at the apex after so many years, but distorting what made it loved by all is a tremendous mistake..

a better way of looking at this is that epic can now make even crazier br seasons because when players want simpler more skill based gameplay that's consistent, they go to reload and when they want more chaotic gameplay where anyone can win with constant changes, they go to br

I have one doubt, why they don't stop that silly HIDDEN skin thing and launched Magneto at beginning of the season, his item is useful against cars and fists.

If epic just drop festival and rocket racing and lego then fortnite can go back to being how it should like the hell with this metaverse bs

Battle Royals isn’t getting old, it’s just the themes and style that made Fortnite popular is what they’re moving further and further away from each chapter

I don't think it's a case of battle royale being dead, the games just lost its identity id say, I had fun with wrecked but reload feels so much more like Fortnite as it did way back when

I mean I thought seeing the player counts in the millions from OG was more than enough to show epic what people want reload is great and it saved chapter 5

The simplicity of the loot pool in reload really makes a difference, you don’t have to worry about weapon mods or bullet drop, you just use the guns as they are. It’s undeniable that hitscan just feels better to play with, which is really my biggest complaint about chapter five

1. The constant huge collabs that take over everything 2. The insistence of metaverse overtaking battle royale

I don’t even think it’s the game mode reload I think people just want the OG Map & Weapons .

Reload is gonna lose numbers when the next season drops, cuz they might revert a lotta things in br that didnt go well, and the next season is marvel...

I've enjoyed this season a lot. It was a breath of fresh air just like Reload was a breath of fresh air for the BR. The nerfs were annoying, but I can still play the game however I want to in BR. But to be honest, the real drawback this season for me is just the community fighting. It's getting old and now that Reload is out you'd think people wouldn't have reason to complain anymore, but the fortnite community just has to complain. It's just getting tiring. Also, I think there are bots in Reload, just less of them.

I still enjoy the chaos the season has brought but.. the theme is me for me and the aesthetics is not hitting the mark for me personally. Also, give the skins their butts, men and women. It looks weird with their butts erased.

The only correction I could make is that battle royale is not dying anytime soon, Reload is a form of BR, It’s more or less a ripoff of resurgence from Warzone, Adding onto that the player base in Fortnite mostly chooses BR and then you’ve still got apex and cod. And fortnite is still growing and same with cod

WE JUST NEED CHAPTER 6 TO BE LIKE CH1/2, that's it.

It was a learning experience and the last thing that we want is for Epic to stop taking risks. Hopefully they will take our Surveys, criticism, and the success of Reload into account for Chapter 6 and can find the balance between evolving the game and keeping what makes players comfortable with the game. I will be completely honest, the first 2 weeks of Wrecked were ridiculously fun and will always be remembered. Next to the TMNT event, those first two weeks were the most fun I've had in all of Chapter 5.

i can completely understand how someone can come to the conclusion that battle royale in the sense of constantly "adapting" can get extremely old or feel too adverted from what people recognize fortnite br for i honestly do think it wouldntve mattered either way due to these reasons Reason 1. had fortnite released wrecked at a different time it wouldntve made any difference, considering right before chapter 5 we had fortnite OG and before that people were already getting burnt out from playing chapter 4 season 3 it was too much change for people to handle (ironic considering it was also too little change in that season) and to make matters worse it felt almost as if epic took a huge break during that season and just to add the salt to the wound Reason 2. chapter 4 season 4 damn. this season started off with potential and alot of people said this was fortnite's make or break season with majority of the event staff gone and the rest of the dev team doing who tf knows in the middle of nowhere this season was truly the season where the community split and its sad to see i saw the potential in it had it been updated with a better lootpool had they finally deleted that trash idiana jones poi it really couldve been the season that transitioned well into chapter 5 but we all know how it went (LACK OF UPDATES too little changed in the map and too much changed in the loot pool infact the best part of this season was taken out within like 2weeks of the season) Reason 3. the transition from OG to chapter 5 is hands down one of THE worst transitions ive ever seen SINCE CHAPTER 2 SEASON 1 the player base was split into 6 Factions (OG players) (New Gen players) (Variety enjoyers) (Consistency enjoyers) (comp enjoyers) (casual enjoyers) yes im far aware that this was always a thing but it only really started to show recently and now ive come to realize just how bad its truly getting fortnite split the playerbase so much that now we've run into a new problem Reason 4. trying to please everyone instead of catering to each playstyle and validating them indiviually OG reload further proves the notion of factions and sub factions within the community think about it what's gonna happen when you have og reload and fortnite og happening simultaneously Reload caters to Variety enjoyers, (reload offers the ability to play with several different items and playstyles) OG players, (nostalgia) Comp players,(they get to finally sweat and show for it not just that they get to use guns they practiced with everyday like the old days) Casual players,(even though its sweaty its also really fun with multiple revives you can continue to respawn with your friends and essentially get a free chance at life over and over again) and maybe new gen players that wanna experience what og fortnite was like + knowing what if feels like to play an older game without taking away from their skills they developed with newer guns Fortnite OG caters to specifically OG players Consistency enjoyers and Comp/Casual players fortnite OG is purely nostalgic and i really dont see all the other players enjoying this just specifically fortnite's older playerbase that left fortnite because they felt the game became "Too much" or too serious compared to what they grew up playing alot of newer gen players hated fortnite og because it took away from them what they enjoyed what they wanted out of fortnite and its why i think both fortnite OG and Reload should remain perm My final reason it kinda hits home Reason 5. Fortnite has changed so much over the years ive seen soooo many playstyles so many weapons so many seasons so many items so much goofy stuff soo much hype stuff its just sad to see that fortnite has truly lost its backbone back in my day everything was broken but insanely enjoyable chapter 5 wrecked honestly couldve been handled so much better instead of nerfs counter play shouldve been enabled when counter play comes to the table it rewards smart players and punishes those who choose to be oblivious theres a reason why the cars were so fun on release they were broken yes however i think had they took the time to listen to feedback instead of acting so rash they wouldve realized how easy the fix couldve been instead of splitting the playerbase they shouldve added npcs around the map that sell anvils set up vending machines that give guarenteed boogie bombs make suppply drops grant a higher chance for dropping boom bows theres so many other ways you can add counter play and keep the cars as busted as they were they shouldve never of nerfed the movement on the gloves instead of nerfing the movement nerf the gloves dmg numbers but keep the range big nerf the attack speed and make it more telegraphed theres so many ideas they couldve used and this leads me to my ending evalution Fortnite will always remain fortnite however when no one feels validated why should they keep playing i feel bad for all the devs that spend years of devolpment making these seasons i feel bad for the artist i feel bad for the entire team they make really good ideas all for it to be thrown and casted aside nerfing cars and the gloves made playing against them still annoying by desing choice and playing with them just as equally annoying its a loop of burnout you drop out of the battlebus you kill the mythic you get the car and now you camp with gloves combat and car you ram into 3 maybe 7 people you get 5 kills and then you die to someone else doing the same thing you make it feel as humanly annoying as possible for people using the newer items and people going up against it and eventually you start a big movement of players choosing to advert from newer seasons which in turn makes the devs not like making seasons they get burnt out the staff gets burntout the community manager gets tired and burnt out from trying to cater to the criticism and eventually theres less effort being made into the newer seasons and chapters and more effort being put into you guessed it find it in fortnite Fortnite OG and Fortnite Reload this is truly fortnite's last chance to learn from their mistakes or comepletely give up on innovating and moddifyng fortnite's experience

As someone who enjoys wrecked (a lot) I am finding myself wanting to play reload 85% of the time. I’m not fatigued of standard BR, but I’d be lying if I said this wasn’t super refreshing to have an option outside of it.

My only wish for chapter 6 and literally any chapter is lasting at least 2 years with a progressive storyline that doesn't get forgotten after a season and story related live events (looking at you big bang) every other season.

i dont know about you guys, but i love this season, this season was made to play with your friends

The one complaint I have for now is that 50 v 50 isn’t a permanent mode. It’s a good game mode for casuals and would be especially good with the new cars this season. That and the item shop needs to stop being limited to cosmetics with LEGO versions

Damn bro takes himself too seriously 😂

I like reload because of the loot pool, and no bots

Idk why the new fortnite listens to the community, but when they do it’s always done in a different way, they add new features like new movement or the new guns where it’s all just crammed in the make the new chapter feel new, we never asked for that tho, even before chapter 5 came out they showed the new movement and saw so much negative feedback, so much that they didn’t revert it but only increase the speed of it, then they remove cosmetic rarities and say it’s outdated when ur still spending 2,000 vbucks for the skin that used to be legendary, sorry for the rant

there is literally nothing fortnite can do or create that will make me personally happy except going back to the game core and keep that way remove every bs like find it in fortnite type shiii, I'm so close on quitting no one on my friends play with me

I feel like Reload didn't overshadow the theme of the season because the mode matches the theme of the season which is chaos but the Avatar collab definetly overshadowed the Greek theme

I hope in chapter 6 the weapons look different like they all in chapter 5 are all dark colored weapons. I want the base weapons to just look different.

I’ve lost hope in chapter 5 since season 2, but I will still give next season a try. I’m just hoping in chapter 6 that fortnite redeems themselves and the game is actually good and fun to play. The only season I have enjoyed this chapter is season 5, also what made it more fun was the fact that everyone was playing.

The gloves ruined the season.

With all the nerfs out now I had a LOT of fun recently. loot up contest a boss car and find a repair torch and let's roll. Whatever I love this game whatever they do.

Reload is better than battle royal ngl 😅

in my opinion, fortnite reload is no place for casual players. I'm not gonna deny that I'm a bad player, but it is just way too sweaty, and the reloading and teams constantly coming back to life just feels like team rumble which I didn't like much already. Things just get too chaotic and, for me, it just wasn't fun to play. I ended up logging off the game for a week in disappointment.

Can't wait for the Reload focused vid!

They should add a permanent addition to the main br, a gulag.. A gulag that changes every season an is designed to match either season itself or the collab for that season. Adding something like this would be fun, it would keep the meta the same and it could easily be something that's new in competitive as well. Something that both the casual an competitive players would both be ok with. All this time trying to find a middle ground every season for both groups when this is ready an waiting for epic to just do it....

I think one of the things that the community as a whole needs to realize is that there are 3 distinct perspectives on the game that need to be acknowledged, but kept separate. 1. Personal Perspective: Everyone has a different idea of what would make a season good or bad. I personally love Wrecked. Two of my close friends who I play with love the gameplay, but hate the skins. One of my other friends loves the skins but hates the gameplay. Everyone has their own opinion and keeping that in mind is a very important factor most fortnite fans ignore. 2. Business Perspective: Like it or not, agree or disagree, Epic is always going to try and do whatever they believe will be best for the business. Money = Resources. More Resources means more development for the game, whether that be on one mode or multiple modes. And the flipside is the game crashing and losing everything. So at some point, we as players have to realize that some decisions are being made out of market research. 3. Epic's Perspective: Morseo on the part of the developers. People like Charlie Wen have ideas for where Fortnite can go and what it can do. And most of those ideas so far have been good. Or at least, enjoyable in concept. They have opinions and interests too, and what they think will be good for the game might not be something we agree with, but they ultimately have more control over the game than we do. Even if we disagree with their decisions, we have to recognize that they aren't made as lightly as so many people seem to think.

I love the fact that you can play either the competitive mode or the chaotic one now (even though the visuals are misleading and make it seem like they should be reversed) but I still hope the gunplay in regular BR is fixed in Chapter 6. As you said, the basic hitscan weapons with no attachments just feel a lot nicer. I also hope they make Battle Royale’s visual style/direction more creative again, because I’m still not a fan of how it looks. And they should bring back augments. Basically I just miss Chapter 4’s gameplay and aesthetic.

Young brother Clark, I am 100% sure you know that the player count of BR got hijacked by Epic adding Creative based maps and then UEFN (creative 2.0). I am as you are pretty sure if Epic didn't add that, we would see more players in BR and no one would've complained. The real question is why Epic is doing this?? Do they want less people playing BR? Or do they have something else in mind?

They need to take away weapon attachments

I look at it like this if epic someday kicks br to the curb lile they did save the world that gives them an opprotunity to create a new genre themselves and will allow them to take all community feedback and create a whole new mode using that or maybe they could go a whole new route and create open world games like gta or rdr but make it in the style of fortnite or somethin

This is off topic but, what is the storyline for us to time travel to the chapter 2 map? How will ch5 s4 bring us to og 2?

It’s not that this season was a big mistake! This season is a fun season. What made this season start off REALLY rough… is NO COUNTER TO CARS. Nothing to keep up with the car if you didn’t have a car. Nothing!! Now we have everything AND counters, Magneto gloves, sniper, the hook to latch onto to cars, EMPS. They literally said here’s cars… that’s it and if you didn’t have a car, you were done.. now I enjoy the season because I can drive cars and make big plays BUT I can also be countered just as easily now too.

Its not that battle royale is dying its that people just want og back and the br season is trash with the cars.

Great video! I like your channel already 😊

They’ve already tried to differ from battle royale and you’ve seen how that went *cough cough* rocket racing *cough cough*

Fun fact: reload has been in development since November

The solution is to remove the cars!

reload for me seems just like a redesign of team rumble, once people are done with quests they will go back to BR. competitors will probably stay but for casual gamers its boring

Reload lobby is just full with those horrible gun and super hero skin , this season is also boring after they nerf basically everything they introduce in this season . I rather play lego

Reload didn't do anything bad, infact it's good to have but i honestly just wish it had a solo option, i get it's a special team themed game mode but my friends aren't always online and only 1 of them play Fortnite with me. And it's also annoying playing with randoms because my servers aren't even English and most of the time my teammates are just plain awful and can't even bother helping.

This gotta be the worst chapter of all-time

Bros spitting facts one again 🗣️🔥 Another great video!!

0:40 nah it ain't dying people just hate the cars, gloves, magneto gloves and the boom crossbow

heard theres a setting to swap to the old gun audio (pumps), if thats even true, sad its not on PS xd. (dont really care abt the audio, still sad we dont have the option tho.

Reload is the opposite of a mistake. This is definitly a step in the right direction, I always thought the Find it in Fortnite modes were reletively mid, the 3 modes are still fun but at the end of the day I come onto fortnite to play fortnite I come on to shoot guns and use goofy items like clingers or boogie bombs. If they go down the route Overwatch is currently doing where they just make new modes every couple seasons then player count will get bigger significantly Kind of something reminicent of Spy Games from C2 S2 where they had all these other modes on the br map but not a battle royale. The player count on specific modes like regular BR and ZB will go down a bit but at the end of the day epic would still me getting more players than they would now, maybe not peaking OG but could be maybe half of that. Basicaly just add more modes that feel like fortnite that arn't necassarily battle royale centered

They should make ranked reload

This season is W, love your takes and your accent! I just made a video about Wanderer being God Dr Doom with comic/art proof. You inspire me bro!

I don't know the lever feels as good as ever to me I love them in box fights

What fortnite needs to do is keep the OG map and all crossovers and stuff act as events and after said event it reverts back or reverts and goes to another change. Either way the map goes back to normal and we get something new

Not sure if this is an isolated incident but Wrecked absolutely wrecked by performance in Fortnite with dropping my fps down to 23-30 fps while I had previously been getting between 180-200 fps, and not feeling like trying to fix it I moved on to other games to play and shit to do away from gaming.

I think people just didn’t love the learning curve from Wrecked . I’ll say now that I understand how to play it I love it

Bro the clickbait is so shameless but it's so powerful I had to click

7:32 I don't like the OG ARs, bullets go wherever they want 😭

As a returning player from my pov these maps looks really good but they’re boring to me for some reason. I play reload strictly because it resembles the classic map. I think the ch2 map is pretty good maybe because it seemed like a rework of the og map to me🤷🏽‍♂️

The fact that 90.k players is low for fortnite shows how popular it is

I love these Fortnite discussion videos. So glad I found your channel!

I liked Chapter 5 at first, but honestly after a few months I don’t want to support it. It’s not bad for say, but it’s not Fortnite. This new mode felt like Fortnite with the gun play, the items, the color, and it giving off the energetic vibe I loved back in 2018.

Thanks for sharing

Guys let’s Fortnite be Fortnite, I get it, OG was probably some of the best seasons but Fortnite isn’t all about going in the past, there will be better seasons, trust me

Off topic as Hell, but is that Trypticon in the back??

Right now I’m honestly surprised, Zero build and battle royal now over take the player count and reload zero build is now lower then 100k

BR not dying. Zero build over everything 4 me.

Keep chapter 5 weapons and mods just make the ARs hitscan and reduce bullet drop for weapons with travel time

There ARE bot teams in Reload mode. I get them im EU squad and duo lobbies all the time!

It isn't that Battle Royale is dying, it's that they aren't doing anything right with it. Fortnite could have the longevity of games like TF2 and Counter Strike if they weren't to change things that don't need changed and if they weren't as experimental for a game that left beta 6 years ago. You don't fix something if it isn't broken. Changes like in chapter 4 are perfect and exactly where I draw the line in terms of evolving, graphical updates along with gameplay updates obviously. I'm not a big fan at all of any of the changes in Chapter 5 and to me they feel like they were done for the sake of it. Chapter 5 is a complete mess in my opinion as everything has been grounded up until then and it should stay grounded. I'm adding this point because of what's mentioned in 7:15 I personally think they should've taken influence on OG, Reload and past seasons before the layoffs and apply those things to current BR. It's what I hoped for OG to be instead of it only existing to gain a mass amount of players to rope into their metaverse ecosystem. There's a lot that's lacking polish that Fortnite has had before. It's a dilemma with how people want to speak out about the game but they don't know how to word it or get what they mean through clearly.

Yeah, honestly, I get that people want something simpler. And Reload is exactly that. But personally, I love this season. Cars are fun to fight with and against. There are so many options on how to fight back, or run away. And let's be honest, Magneto feels shoehorned in, but it makes sense when you realize next season is Marvel themed.

MAN GET ME ON CHAPTER 6 ALREADY.

I love Chapter 5 season 3 It’s so fun

Wrecked to me highlights a issue that BR itself does, and thats introduce a new mobility item for the season, making the meta very fast. Though it had the Cars alongside the shockwave hammer and kinetic blade, which are considered more powerful. This season has the Nitro Fists, which are effectively an infinite shockwave thats sufficient up close, but Cars receiving a major buff and a better Slap(with one of the medallions granting you infinite of it), makes the meta hyper mobile to a point where everyone may just run away and easily do so, while simultaniously allow sudden third parties since everyone can fly to a fight that visual audio picks up. Alongside this is that Chapter 5's additions to the game are just overall not good, Medallions replacing Augments are the issue of Mythics that encourage camping a boss for easy elims since being guaranteed a advantage against other players while taking out a person/team while doing little work, Modding had worsen gunplay since almost everything is Projectiles instead of Hitscan, and changes to how Fortnite functions itself has made the BR mode feel clunky with either rough movement and/or having to go through multiple tabs just to apply some cosmetics instead of directly changing it. Im not surprised in the least bit that people returning for OG getting thrown into semi-toony Warzone is going to cause declines in the playerbase, while throwing in unbalanced weapons. And while Reload can genuinely be more fun, its also alot rougher in due part to hyper fast respawns and revives, and seemingly no real matchmaking balance to keep the game feeling fairish.

I just subscribed to your channel bro

Battle royale still has more players than reload. I don't get why people say it doesn't...

Not to sound disrespectful but in my opinion all the community does now is complain about everything

Its a third person shooter just add more shooter game modes there's no excuse, the community wants to shoot each other was that not obvious!?

BR "dying" means epic was right. Pouring money into other modes was the correct call. It offers much more varied gameplay for people who dont like shooters. And i'm all for it.

I started c2 s4 and quit c4 s3 I come back to fortnite and its the biggest crap show I have ever seen with the mindless noob items and stuff. Reload is awesome because it has no OP noob items and im not saying this season is bad im just saying they could have worked and fleshed it out a bit better

Why does magneto have the havoc ar?

The BR numbers are only down because Reload is brand new. Also with so many people hating how extremely different the current meta has made the game, it’s most likely the people that are playing Reload are the ones that don’t like the current BR season. I’ve been saying for a long time that the BR could have 2 modes for both builds and no builds. One that is extreme and one that is extremely balanced. Personally I am not attracted to Reload. For me it’s a rumble variation

BR is not dying. Epic Games are the one killing the genre not the players. Reason why reload was successful is BR car season ruined for players.

Fortnight OG season up to chapter 5, season 3 fortnight was on a great run been a longing time since we had 3 great seasons in a row Chapter 5 season 3 is trash and now we have reload(which is good) the game is spread so thin right now I fucking hate it. Been lay fort since day one this is not good

Chapt 5 season 1 & 2 hella players. This season , lowest player count I’ve ever seen. Most people don’t like bs noob items.

People keep saying that this season is so good bc it doesn’t require building or sweating, JUST PLAY ZERO BUILDS BRO HOW BAD DO U NEED TO BE THAT U CANT BUILD NOR AIM 😂😂

Reload is better and more fun because it's simple , og was so successful because it was simple every stream praised it and how simple it was, br just needs to be simple , og should always be a playable mode so should reload... This full chapter has been poor compared to any other chapter ... The worry is if this season was being built a year ago it means the next season is already set in stone and unfortunately I can still see cars being used as they've sold car skins if cars become hardly used they can't sell the car skins ...

fortnite peaked in 2018 but needed to keep making money

Ill keep it simple it’s not battle royal itself it’s the fucking season being to chaotic the fists ,cars,nitro, magneto ,boom bow, infinite sprint , infinite amo all these factors are so broken and stupid that they keep adding broken shit, people like the reloaded game mode bc it’s og it’s simple it doesn’t effect your stats bc it’s a LTM but you can add to your crowns 😂

Hopefully ch6 is better than ch5