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@@Lord_Chibi Yeah there's really no way to balance them. Either they're way too good or terrible. Which is a shame because the idea is interesting just not the execution.
He is not saying that you dummie he is saying that the old stuff should return and not everything new is good old items were just better and fortnite was never meant to be cod if they want to evolve they should evolve in being a unique br that they had instead of a cod version of fortnite
Not really. It wouldn't have as many players but it would not be dead at all. Very few games constantly change identities and mechanics. Most games only add new maps or weapons and they thrive
Why don't Epic add MOD benches as an item where you throw it down and and can destroy it to turn it back into an item. This could be an epic item but maybe only has 5 uses
they could’ve at least allowed the bunkers to open as soon as the first zone shrinks. Why refuse use of access to the mod benches until MID GAME?! Not to mention, the whole point of this chapter is to use attachments. Even the random floor loot upon picking up is really lacking and it REALLY affects the overall gameplay experience. This is my BIGGEST issue with this chapter and they still haven’t found any sort of common ground with it.
@@ryanfares263 they already use uefn for 99% of the season. They are just making a point that with UEFN You can make the same quality as actually seasons.
@RayyanLakmana yeah...earlier this year, they made that announcement. My guess is to get more to use uefn, but I think it's a really bad idea to use a different engine compared to theirs. Uefn, a few years later, is still underpowered and limited on what it can do.
Fortnite as a game is better than it has ever been before. The problem is the player base. Unless you’re spending hours a day on this game practicing edits and box fighting then you really don’t have much chance of winning any games. Epics match making system is so poor as well. I got 5 kills (all bots) and then the next game I was in the sweatiest lobbies I have ever experienced. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s a bit like playing division 8 on fifa, winning one game and then being promoted to division 1, it wouldn’t make any sense.
The last new trap we got was armoured walls in 2021 and before that the fire traps in 2020. Armoured walls added such a unique style of fighting in builds.
@@BOUND-573 there were so many opportunities for new traps it sucks. Mud trap could've been our mobility item for wilds similar to the ice one, a catapult during the oathbound season, laser grids during last resort, some sort of Medusa trap last season. but NO.
I played project retrac recently (a chapter 2 season 4 private server) and WOW. It makes modern Fortnite feel a lot more clunky and frustrating. I've always been a "modern fortnite is just as good" believer but comparing the 2 it's clear Epic and the fans are on 2 different wavelengths
@@Hadeez2that makes no sense they have no sway on decision making an the stock they bought still doesn’t give them any major say on decision for the game
@@Monster-6524 no but Fortnite are still trying to impress Disney by making choices they think they would like +that Disney project needs lots of workers to complete
@@Hadeez2it’s been slowly falling off ever since chapter 2 season 5, it just wasn’t as noticeable back then because the game was still overall really fun but the game has been getting worse every chapter since then
@@lenny4211 current UEFN nearly doesn't have enough features to make new br features. it's gonna be new meshes at best since uefn can't even add new weapons or directly mess with the player
I also think that starting in chapter 2 but really kicking into high gear in chapter 3 onward, they betrayed the original concept of the game and it essentially became a testing ground for the capabilities of Unreal Engine 5. As seen with the shift to realism over the classic cartoony look, the introduction of sprinting/mantling/sliding which make building less essential, the first-person scope on non-sniper weapons, and abandoning innovative vehicles for more boring ones, which started as early as chapter 2. Chapter 1 had shopping carts, balloons, pirate cannons, planes without fuel, volcano vents, slipstreams, rift-to-gos, ATKs, and shadow bombs for mobility, which are all so much more charming than only having two different types of cars.
This title could not be MORE TRUE! Fortnite fully lost its Identity as soon as it became a Multi Game Mode F*CK FEST! This is why Donald Mustard left, because instead of Focusing on the Story, the Events and what made Fortnite what it was…they wanted to turn their game into a META VERSE type Game. The new Summer update just Speaks how LITTLE they care about Fortnite as a Whole. And it makes me very upset. I Just want Fortnite back 😢
Modding is what I think made gunplay worse. Adding scopes makes weapons 100% accurate and its why the red dot ar was OP, so instead every gun aside from shotguns are projectiles with bullet drop so no op assault rifle(ironic since the Striker was great and got removed a season later). Modding itself makes guns feel incomplete or Overpowered. Say I pick up a Harbinger SMG and the attachment is a red dot sight, so sweet I have 100% accuracy when adsing, but then you have to fight the recoil, and if you want a good weapon, you now need to wait till midgame for the vaults to unlock. And why I say OP is because the Reaper Sniper perfectly showed why, putting any scope you want on it allows it to compete even in close quarters with a stock mod that quickens ads speeds, and adding a extended mag let's you get 5 more shots.
fr, i hate that i can pick up a gun and just because it has bad attachements ill drop it even tho it can be like rare when before it was basically higher rarity=better
I’d personally keep the Attachments, but remove the Optics and keep Hitscan in. The Optics reduce the amount of variety the core weapons have, and it limits older weapons from coming back as well. The other attachments should stay though.
I agree I do not like the gun mods it just makes the repetitive and easy, wait for bunker to open get the mods come out, game is so boring because there's no challenge if you can just always make a gun have no recoil or just make it have a scope
At the beginning of this season u were letting ur bias not allow ur creative thoughts to flourish. While I still don’t like the season I can respect that u like the season while at the same time acknowledging why others don’t instead of writing us off. We’re all players n can like different things n should just respect that n then we can have better convos like this. Amazing vid. If other ppl cooking u just catered the whole event 🤝🏾💪🏾
i dont like how fortnite changed the ordor of the locker battle pass etc and made it more complex. like i said before i really liked the style of ch2 season 4 and how it looked and when you select a gamemode and how simple it was and unclustered
In my opinion a lot of the success of Zero build has led to them trying to draw players from other brs to fn instead of trying to please their existing audience, especially in ch5 s1 when they changed the art style, movement, gun mechanics. Their focus on zb has also drastically changed the game over all in other ways whether you like it or not. Such as like you mentioned, the lack of traps, a faster paced game, zb designed items for some reason in both modes such as shield bubbles, bush bombs, and a honestly worse map design with areas that are completely off the build grid
This is an interesting point. That's actually a video on my list to do, talking about the impact that zero build has had on Fortnite. It's been a weird balance that they're trying to find in everything that they're doing but I feel like they're slowly getting there. You brought up some good points. I have a few more things to think about for that video now.
I find your mention on shield bubbles and bush bombs a weird thing to mention... Like those aren't items that could only be useful in zero build like a port a bunker- a bush bomb literally stops fall damage that's legitimately useful in some areas. And the map had been on a decline since chapter 4. not really something i see zero build affecting more of an issue of epics yearly chapters. they don't have time to focus on the map that much since they're likely already preparing for the next chapters map.
@@Klarque_Clint yes please make a video on this zero build has a lot of players but it makes br not feel like the original fortnite this is a topic nobody is talking about the map becomes dirty and the traps which were unique to fortnite are not even usable zero build has more negatives builds have still more players than zero build that is what I play for epic is only trying to make everything for zero build you can see this season and the entire ch4 and ch5 map
I really doubt you can draw people from other shooters, but a lot of players wouldn't have even started playing Fortnite were it not Zero Build orientated. newcomers bring this game more money, so Epic did what they were suposed to.
With every new season it feels like Epic has no idea what to do with BR anymore, always making changes for the sake of it and when that doesn't work, pull out the nostalgia card like keys to dangle in front of fans
@@AmericanEagle462 I disagree, Chapter 4 graphics still felt like Fortnite everywhere but inside Mega City. Just with modern day Unreal Engine lighting. The cherry blossom fields outside of Mega, the Autumn biome on the western half of the island. It was all so gorgeous and still felt like Fortnite.
The problem is that they arent prioritising Battle Royal. Be realistic, Fortnite does not hit like it did 4 years ago. Its very clear from what we've heard from behind the scenes there has been a complete change in focus and they are prioritising making the game a hub for other games. The most recent example is the summer event this season. We got a total of 3 rewards for the entire summer. Compare that to when we got multiple game modes and challenges for every day. But oh! Dont worry guys! We have pirates of the Caribbean comming! But that ISNT FORTNITE! Remember when having collabs where actually special? When everyone would freak out when there was a normal collab? That doesn't happen and it will never happen again. They have lost the creativity Fortnite was known for and substituted it for things that arent even Fortnite.
I would disagree. BR being a priority isn't dependent upon how good a seasonal event is. Even though I would like more effort put into them I think the effort is being put elsewhere. Wrecked conceptually was a bold theme for a season and something we had never seen before. That by itself shows BR is a priority. All the collabs we've had and are getting this season that add weapons to the loot pool show they care about BR. It may not be the content that you want but it's an insane amount of content that they're dishing out not to mention adding reload in which is a different mode but was designed for the more grounded competitive Fortnite players that just love gun fights. They do take their audience into consideration. Let's just hope for the next 2 seasonal events they do more.
Fortnite thinks we would be bored of a simpler Fortnite but that's simply not the case. A simpler Fortnite means: - More players due to higher FPS - More players due to easier understanding of the new mechanics - Current players can easily adapt - They can use simple items that can help the casual players without entirely ruining the experience for everyone - Easier to make content - More fun in general I just wish they would go back to the old style. I used to dislike chapter 2 because of the map and some of the updates they used to do. Now I wish we could go back 💀💀
Thing is for me chapter 4 was so simple yet so fun adding things that was yes pretty weird like attack on titan shit and quite literally every anime out rn. And yeah chapter 4 was just one big add but it WAS FUN that’s what matters to me FUN
My response to this is Fortnite for the longest time was called a beta so we always knew something really big was gonna come because why they still call it beta unless there was some things they wanted to add to fully complete the game they wanted to make eventually it’s not Fortnite doesn’t understand Fortnite it’s that you don’t understand Fortnite
Imma be honest. I like the projectile weapons. It feels really satisfying to calculate my aim based on how opponents are moving. However, I do still believe hitscan is better for this game. The reason Fortnite was always atteactive to me because it felt more cartoonish. It wasn't like other more realistic shooters. Hitscan makes the game more relaxed by not having to think that much about aiming. In summary, I like projectiles, it personally makes the game more fun for me, however I also like hitscan nd if it came back, I would not complain. I think it'd be better for it to come back. I think the Klarque made a good point in saying that no body would complain if projectiles for non sniper weapons were never introduced intk the game, nor do I believe many people would be upset if they were removed.
Every day Epic is harder to defend and it also seems that they are losing braincells every day with their decisions. Still, i will defend chapter 5 until i die
I think Fortnite cared too much about getting new players instead instead of keeping their own players happy, but I’m glad that it’s changing. I’m glad that they made ranked have comp loot pool, but I can’t be home to enjoy it. Please make a video that thanks Epic for this decision so that they know that they made a good decision
Not everyone is desperate for kills, is the problem with generalization, and Bush Camp show it clearly... There are other ways of playing than FULL TRYHARD BUILDER WITH A SHOTGUN
@@lemonadeps5 I say the same... Not everyone in ranked is so bloodthirsty, I understood clearly what he was talking about and I still that he is wrong for generalizing. I sometimes play rankeds too (most of the times because is easier than public matchmaking) and my friends do and I know other people that prefer them and not just for the challenge, sometimes to do missions or just get the cosmetics of surviving storms... That's why is better to say: the majority than to generalize and says EVERYONE.
one last thing about the attachments. great idea with the perks, make exotic/mythic attachments mythics only available on mythic guns and work in tandem with the medalion while exotic is more out there and experimental, (explosive shots, every 5th shot deals bonus dmg) take insperation from d2 exoitc perks
Yall complain about anything, let the game grow and develop it's own way😭I joined chapter 4 when Optimus prime got in and I love the new season and everything past that. Maybe I missed something from previous chapters that are making yall like this but as of now the game's given me pretty much of what I expected it to be (good video btw)
@@TheOnlyCentaurus damage traps discourage mindless spraying into boxes, launch pads r the most balanced movement we’ve ever had, bouncers are crash pad jrs but actually good bc they don’t take a slot; armored walls counter explosives, campfires are just a nice bonus heal to have
The second Tim Sweeney convinced himself making Fortnite a Roblox clone was a good idea or that it was somehow revolutionary is proof Epic Games, namely Tim Sweeney, doesn't understand Fortnite.
Wanna know something crazy? He had that plan before the MINI SHIELD was in the game, he really had all that buildup just for the players to puke at the sight of his idea coming to reality.
@K1R13T0 campers who will hide some waiting for you to kill the boss so you are low on ammo, the run and grab the loot before you an kill you with it, Or just Greddy Teammates. It should work like a Siphon.
Making the game fully og again is really not the solution to the problem, people will still complain cuz the game will stop evolving, the thing that people are looking for is this cartoony style that simple fun goofy game full of colour and cool events, thats what makes it stand out from other br games, Donald understood this very well, without him its not the same tho all of this could be fixed if Epic just takes a look at what people think...
Ch5 s1 was incredible and my Top 5 seasons oat I never minded the bullet drop and it made snipers actually viable for the first time ever the movement items were good aswell idk how they messed it up so badly in the next two seasons
also for the hitscan/bullet drop thing. YES i only play today cuz no hitscan anymore it actually takes skill instead of aim train sweats clicking and winning
The trap issue is also one that confuses me. Zero Build would actually benefit from the use of the trap slot. Imo, if you hit the build button in Zero Build it ought to let you use the trap slot only, letting you place a trap or launch pad. It'd also be cool if items like bubble shields, throwable launch pads, port-a-bunkers, etc took up the trap slot, freeing up space for weapons and heals while compensating for the lost flexibility of builds.
I just want a core mode thats basically og with siphon have the classic guns there and have a more casual mode where they can go all out with their whacky ideas on having op stuff. having choices is nice
siphon is a horrible idea for a base mechanic (not a medalion type shit) it ruins the whole heal system, why cary a med kit or a flowberry fiz when u can heal max hp after ever fight
This always happens. New chapter isn’t perfect so epic fixes it and then more problems role in even though they could’ve been called out. This leads to epic not knowing what the community wants because they fix some problems and the community makes more for epic to fix. This would be fixed if the community addressed these problems before chapter 5 and actually emphasised them
As a casual I feel obligated to defend this season no matter what even though they have been screwing casual players over ever since the end of the first week. At this point, with the Magneto gloves, the cars just feel like an afterthought. They're just as useful as they were in any other season, as a rotation method. You might as well be shooting out the windows at this point for all the value the vehicular combat has. Still, that was a solid half a season of actual vehicular mayhem and I'll never forget it. RIP Wrecked. You will be dearly missed.
I just want more umbrella gliders. Seasonal themed and collab themed. Just want epic to do more with them because rewardung a win umbrella every season isn't special anymore.
Can we also bring back Skill Based Matchmaking? I don't want to keep queuing for a casual match in br and be put against people that spend 80% of their Playtime on piece control maps. And before people start saying "Get good" "just be better", im pretty sure a lot of people just want to have fun playing BR instead of treating every match like a Cash Cup or tournament.
Do you not have google? fortnite has skill based and it’s one of the biggest issues with the game that nobody talks about. it does the same labrat queing system to try to make people play for the maximum amount of time that activision uses. people who are above average at the game but not competive are genuinely left in the dust in this matchmaking system.
I honestly prefer projectile weapons/guns and mods it just feels better to be rewarded for aim and not just placing a reticle over someone, I feel it's best going forward for Fortnite and I hope it' something they keep going forward with. However the game does need to be much simpler especially in terms of tactical play much like the first two seasons. Fortnite is at it's best when there's a balance of both chaotic and slower paced tactical play styles.
Last 2 days of ranked (zero build) has been weird. Within 2 min at least 50 gone. So few people playing, last 10 games i have been under 30 players left only after 2 storms so still major map and no cars (and i dont even dont like cars but its a grind juat finding anyone in game). Not fun...on positive side you rank up vwry very fast lol
They clearly don't, if you rely on the way your game was in the past, when people said it was the best time to play your game, so you spam it whenever you're player base declines significantly because stupid changes, then yes, they clearly don't understand jack.
Since Reload got introduced the vast majority of people moved away from the main BR for a reason. They don't. Don't make a fool of yourself being an epic fanboy.
people care way too much about this game like just have fun with it you know it should not be like a full time job where you want everything to be the exact same everyday and even if you made an argument about tournaments with money its still just a game and it should be different and fun
Bro legimetly cracked the code ( I probably wrote that wrong).EPIC LISTEN TO THIS MAN. REMOVE THAT STUPID BULED DROP, bring back the upgrade benches to. Just bring back the actual good part o fortnite man. Wanna know the only thing I think u did good this season? Climbing wall
As someone who's actually enjoying this chapter A LOT, thank you for giving good and sensible criticism instead of just going " new fortnite bad old fortnite good." There are 2 points i don't agree with, though. The first is that traps should return. I play Zero build because i can't handle the sweats in BR. I can't imagine someone boxing me up and then putting 5 traps inside my box or something. I don't remember how many traps you could hold in chapter 1, but it'll still be hell nowadays nonetheless. The second point is hit scan weapons. The reason fortnite switched to projectile weapons is to reduce bloom. Previously, weapons had INSANE bloom as to balance the hit scan weapons being able to hit anyone from any distance easily. This was quite annoying because bloom is an awful thing. So, they decided to use projectile weapons. This makes shooting more skill based than luck based in some scenarios. It also doesn't make rotating a living hell since it's now much harder to hit people at the other side of the map. This was VERY prominent when playing ZB in Reload. Another think is that i honestly think snipers are much more fun, satisfying, and skillful with projectile bullets. I think a good solution would be to somehow implement both hit scan and projectile weapons in the game. Like SMGs could be hit scan and Snipers could be projectiles. ARs could have hit scan and projectile variations, maybe?
I agree, not all weapons should be hit scan (like snipers) but I do think that because of Fortnite being as complex as it is naturally, having to learn bullet drop and building is a bit much. Once again I do understand the RNG aspect of bloom, but it's manageable with first shot accuracy and for some reason in Fortnite it just feels good. I don't think these new weapons feel as nice as the old ones do but maybe there's a better balance you can find between the 2. Also I played comp zero builds when the red dot was in. I get the frustration with hit scan but it just requires you to be a better player with good positioning and the right inventory. It made many games way more intense and that was enjoyable. Hit scan may just be a personal preference thing at the end of the day but I think it's a big part of Fortnite's legacy and play pattern that should be kept, but maybe balanced out a bit more. In terms of traps epic would only need to limit the amount of traps you can hold at one time depending on the trap type. Logically no more than 2 if we're talking about spike traps. I don't think it's a fair argument to say, "Well because someone is better at the game than me or better as using traps, they shouldn't be in the game". Learn how to use traps better or position yourself where you aren't getting boxed by them as much. Also, not all traps are made equal. Launch pads count towards trap slots as well. I think it's another skill curve that adds value to the game, it makes the game stand out and be more fun, and for those reasons should continue to be present in future seasons. Interesting points you brought up. I respect your position.
7:17 one thing I like about Warzone is its Gunsmith having things like underbarrel Chainsaw/flamethrower/nade, a stock that greatly increases strafing, and much more I wish Fortnite would’ve done something more fun with the GS system there’s so much potential I remember when talking to my friends before S2 came out that they should’ve added instead of mythic weapons they could’ve added mythic attachments that are only dropped from the bosses and the attachments would be universal, but you all we got were weapons that couldn’t even have attachments that you wanted which was so lame, I’m not asking for 300 attachments like Warzone but something FUN man make it interesting, well atleast it is useful if you want to even have a chance at a 1v1
So, i stopped playong fortnite at the end of chaoter 2, fortnite just wasnt for me anymore. Nothing about when chaoter 3 came out had me excited to play fortnite. So i abandoned the game until fortnite og released and ive been playing it since then again, i do like the game still but i still feel that stark contrast between what fortnite was and what fortnite is now and it was just alot more fun back in 2017 2018 and 2019. The first 3 years of the game were so so fun and its no surprise to anybody that for alot of people after 3 years, it fell off.
I've played since pretty much br released, I remember the game being something new for everyone, cartoon graphics, simple mechanics, nothing too difficult, everyone was still learning how to play. The game originally used to be a tower defense zombie game, I haven't really played since early last year or late 2022, the SBMM did kind of kill it for me, sure there's zero build but I still like the building mechanic, I find zero build just gets boring really fast, a lot of people got good which drives away the casual players, I'm not hating on the good players, just saying. The other thing most people loved about this game was the random updates and the fun weapons/items we had, guided rocket launcher, mini gun, impulse/shockwave grenade, just fun items. Not to mention, the simple game and simple graphics, and none of this weird realistic graphics and movement. The thing epic can do instead of just letting "og" be limited, they should make a new game to make new fortnite, or just made a permanent mode that you can simply select the chapters/seasons you want to play. Tbh, I got drained of this game for the competitiveness, but yall are a diff breed lmao.
my main problems with fortnite - way to many collabs happening at once (i dont mind the collabs if anything i like them its just annoying when they have like 3 collabs running at the same time) - the map is TOOO diverse, i feel like we need more than 1 biome but having more than 3 or 4 is just way to much, and the map has WAY to much going on at once like there is no need to have all these crazy diffrent wepons that are so unbalanced and stuff at the same time - the horrible battlepasses i feel like ever since chapter 3 started the battlespass have just became complete dogshit and none of the skins or emotes r good. - the movement the movement is so unbareable and i cant stand crouching so slowly - the new UI, its so annoying and i dont understand WHY they would change it because im sure 99% of the players were just fine with the old UI and it was just so much easier to navigate and now its just such a mess - the item shop has way to much stuff and its a pain to look through it to find anything you want
Being from the camp of "there's really not much of a difference between hit scan and bullet drop", your point doesn't make much sense to me. If Epic had just stayed with Hit scan, well of course I wouldn't have complained because I wouldn't know anything different and I liked hit scan just fine. But the whole point of those of us with the opinion that it's not THAT much different...is exactly that. I don't have a strong preference either way, I enjoy both, I get satisfaction and challenge from both, and it was not a hard adjustment to make whatsoever. I appreciate people having a preference for hit scan, that's easy to understand. It's when people make overblown claims about how MUCH better hit scan is than bullet drop, or they love one and HATE the other that seems a little over-dramatic to people like me. I like beaming people in Reload sure. I loved the Red-eye and Twin-mag AR, of course. But I also love when I lead and calculate my bullet drop JUST right and still get those tags. I enjoy both. Ninja explained why he prefers hit scan, in that he feels it "rewards" his good aim. Which I get, but he also acknowledged that that's also just his preference and he could see why others might find leading and getting their bullet drop as more rewarding. To me it's just hard to justify that the lack of hit scan is a huge fundamental miss-step. But, I'll agree with you, if the majority of the community seems to prefer hit scan, then they should listen to that and transition back. I'll enjoy it either way LOL.
that was my point that it's something the vast majority of the community enjoys which is why it should go back. But I've also adjusted to the new weapons as well. My other point is I just think the old weapons feel more satisfying to use. If there are people that don't see a difference like you then it just furthers my point we should go back. I don't think we disagree here.
The of graphic style was better and more fun. I miss everything having wacky angles and just looking a little goofy, i miss the vibrant grass we see in ofrtnite reload and the hillsides that all look the same, im okay with more plants and folliage, but stay within that color pallat and art style of chapter 1
The problem with Fortnite is the same problem so many other game developers have with their games. They live in a reddit bubble, completely disconnected from the rest of the world. They don't know what is like to play on anything that isn't a super computer, the way THEY play the game, the weapons THEY like to use, they way THEY think everything should be. Only ever listening to the streamer with millions of subs. They are delusional.
Bold of you to assume i hate current fortnite. 😅 I think it's the only time in fortnite's history where is WANT to play fortnite outside of a season launch week Also the point of "If they never introduced _ , would you have still complained?" Makes no sense. Every change is controversial. There are people that do like it and people that dont. There is no deeper meaning. If they kept season shops, would you still complain about those? :/
