Watch a Pro Wire a 20A GFCI and 20A Receptacle, Any Code Violations?

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@constantinejosephides3312 2 года назад

Great I'm apprenticeship ING with habitat for humanity wiring home's and I was contemplating putting an extra receptacle in my bathroom , thank you for the demonstration it will help me!

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

My pleasure!

@madabz81 2 года назад

Weird I’m working with habitat wiring multi dwelling units as well lol

@BruceLeanTrades 2 года назад

@@madabz81 do you get paid or is it all charity work?

@constantinejosephides3312 2 года назад

@@BruceLeanTrades volunteer

@tricklicker69 2 года назад

It's very sad that most large contracting company is on housing developments do the code minimum of one receptacle per 12 ft wall in a bedroom when you had that one receptacle behind the bed board it's very hard to get the electric blanket and alarm clocks and night lights all hooked up to both sides of the bed for His & Hers the actual cost to put it in an extra extra receptacle is probably less than $10 time and material I have always been one to over Supply the owner of the home in an extra Outlet or two it doesn't cost that much more and it makes people's lives much easier down the road

@avengence 2 года назад

I thought Scotty Kilmer did car videos

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

LOL!

@kllgrogto5838 2 года назад

😂😂😁

@shirkophobe 2 года назад

Maybe he’s Scotty’s calmer electrician brother. 😏

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

@@shirkophobe LOL, that's funny! When I was in Nashville for the Ideal Championships I invited Scotty to the finals. He said he couldn't make it because it was close to Christmas. It would have been cool if he could have made it. I would have done a video with him!

@JohnSmith-lw2bm 2 года назад

I know he sounds just like him, right? Same tone, cadence, inflection, etc.

@mikell3087 2 года назад

406.4 is specifically for replacing non grounding type recepticals where an equipment grounding conductor does not exist. Since there is a grounding conductor that code wouldnt apply

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@brettsalling 2 года назад

Absolutely. Came here to comment the same thing

@hangngoaigiare 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel no idea why he apply the middle of the code but not the whole thing.

@Landesign58 2 года назад

Bill, thanks for showing your audience the use of the silicone bands- they are fantastic!

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

Pricey, but nice. Now, we get to hear from the 'but they cause heat' crowd. And the 'only wirenuts are any good' crowd.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

No problem, thanks!

@ricardobocus6304 2 года назад

Me "Judge, I cant do this job you gave me the wrong outlets" Judge "Correct, Pass!"

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

LOL! What else could the judge say?

@GAMarine137 Год назад

Never thought I would watch a play by play of receptacle wiring 🤣

@SparkyChannel Год назад

LOL! Hope you enjoyed it.

@5_fun_facts123 2 года назад

Its so refreshing to hear "bonding" over "grounding" in your videos.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@rmhanseniii 2 года назад

Why… they are two entirely different things?

@oliverwright8500 2 года назад

406.4 (D) (2) (C) only applies to grounding type receptacles installed after a GFCI if there isn’t a ground. Specifically. So since the is an equipment ground in this circuit, that section doesn’t apply and no label is needed. If you read the section on on screen in the video it specifically says that. But they should have been weather resistant of course.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Correct, thanks!

@michaell4527 2 года назад

Hey sparky this helps, as an apprentice who forgot a few things from school. Wanted to say thanks.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Happy to help!

@netpasyanetpasya6381 Год назад

1. Greg didn't caulk around the box. 2. Greg did not use a level to make sure the receptacles are perfectly straight up and down. 3. Greg did not use a Platinum-Titanium coated screwdriver to prevent scratching the screws.

@hangngoaigiare 2 года назад

I think you wrong about the marking. The marking as gfci protected only apply when you replace none grounding type (2 prongs) with grounding type receptacle (3 prongs). In this case I don’t think you have to say this receptacle is gfci protected because it has to have gfci protected no matter what when installing outside per current code. Still thanks much for sharing I don’t think anyone know everything about the NEC. I see even the whole inspector department of a big city (5 inspectors total) miss understood about 210.12(D)(2) exception too.

@BlueCollarGaming11 2 года назад

This was my thought. That code is in reference to replacing a 2 wire non grounded receptacle with a gfci, or putting one at the start of the line to protect plugs downstream

@songsfromnowhereproject 2 года назад

Yeah you are absolutely right

@garydudgeon 2 года назад

Good video Sparky. He is methodocal and efficient.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Yes, good observation. Good work pace.

@ellsobrien 2 года назад

Great video. I don't think I could do that work with gloves on. LOL. One QUESTION: Why such the long tails in the non-GFCI receptacle?

@IceBergGeo 2 года назад

Makes it easier to install or remove if you have to do just one.

@Sparkeycarp 2 года назад

Yep, try that much wire in a plastic box.

@IceBergGeo 2 года назад

@@Sparkeycarp plastic or metal, doesn't matter. It's the size of the box that does. Just remember, you have to have a minimum length conductor able to pull out of the box, and he's got it for either receptacle, one at a time.

@kevinmach730 2 года назад

My back hurt just watching him squat down like that for 5 minutes. Gettin old is a bitch.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

I hear that! LOL!

@HoosierRallyMaster 2 года назад

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think that that section of the NEC only applies when there is no EGC in the box. Since all the work shown has an EGC then you will have to look elsewhere for the labeling requirement.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

Depends on the inspector, in my jurisdiction, they demand it. Inspectors fancy themselves demi-gods and arguing with them leads to unnecessary challenges.

@matsfreedom 2 года назад

I've never met an electrician who couldn't nitpick the other guys work, nor an inspector who couldn't fail a perfectly good job.

@kevinmach730 2 года назад

Yep. Same thing in the IT field. I appreciate true experience and knowledge in any fiield, but the bottom line is nothing this guy did put the busines owner or contractor at substanial risk, physically or financially. But some people like to geek out on the code, so there it is...

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

True!

@kevinmach730 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel No disrepsect intend, by the way, I appreciate what you're doing and as a person who does some of their own electrical work, I have learned a lot from your channel and grateful for the education.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

@@kevinmach730 That's cool, we all need to help each other. Things work better that way.

@jamesmcguffey3569 2 года назад

The GFCI is a medical grade device, not rated for exterior applications. Also I see no WR stamp on the 20a Duplex Receptacle either.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Yes, correct!

@ip5232 2 года назад

All looks good to me but I see how he just push all the wiring to the back of the box , when I had seeing others and I do it my self to bend them nicely like in a accordion way to be able to be accommodated in the back or if they need to be pull out it can be easy ,my opinion

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@jimbojames9370 2 года назад

Hey J CM, just an explanation of why that technique is not used in this alplication: In your house you would be using romex (NMD-90) which contains solid wire. Here, he is using stranded THHN which won't bend or stay put the same way as solid wire. Cheers

@ip5232 2 года назад

@@jimbojames9370 I know , and agree but I still don't just push them in like that I try my best to accommodate them, it was a bit of a bother thinking he was doing it for a competition and people was going to look at it I would think he would do the best to "try " to bend them in nicer

@jimbojames9370 2 года назад

@@ip5232 couldn't agree more. Part of the judging I'm sure is on speed... just as that seems to be all the customer cares about now... "how fast can you get that done?" At the end of the day it seems now the only one holding us accountable is ourselves... people don't tend to notice workmanship anymore....

@atmacm 2 года назад

He’s using solid wire in this video

@chevinbarghest8453 2 года назад

The earlier shot in the vid showed both items to be marked 'WR', but the items at the end of the vid were not -----hence the infractions. That threw me for a minute. There earlier shot must have been 'how it should be'...

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Yes, the earlier photo was from a previous video of mine.

@miciahk 2 года назад

So far, I stopped the video before you answer, I see the receptacles are not weather resistant.

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

Caught that, too. Sparky mentioned 'outside' so often I noticed, though I'm assuming we cut the video before he could label the receptacle.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Correct!

@ExecOpsN7 2 года назад

The shop I worked with never wrapped devices in tape like that. I know florida code requires it. Is that a stat to state thing? As for the supply chain problems, can cornfirm jobs were held up by lack of bath fans and breakers.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Yeah, the show had to go on with what they had.

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

Inspectors here like to see tape or those expensive ArmourBand wraps. I don't regard code as the maximum limit, if it's not required but good practice, we do it. I want people to look at my work fifty years after I'm gone and say, 'yup that was old Ethel. Despite being a woman, she was good. And, yes, the sexism won't ever leave the trades.

@patrickobrien4322 2 года назад

Not to mention its safer if you have to get in the box while live

@deepPuddlesarefun 2 года назад

Looks like the armor bands took the most amount of time to install...

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

LOL!

@Sparkeycarp 2 года назад

Never seen them in 20 years of being an electrician. Just tape.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

@@Sparkeycarp They're fairly new.

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

@@Sparkeycarp They're up and coming but way too pricey. Two quick wraps do me just fine.

@RB-xv4si 2 года назад

A fourth violation is of 110.3(B). The outdoor device box with 1/2” hubs is only listed for use with threaded conduit (I.e. rigid conduit or IMC). EMT fittings aren’t technically allowed to be used with these boxes. Again, not the fault of this electrician. He used what they gave him to use.

@mikefochtman7164 2 года назад

That paragraph (c) quoted is for replacing non-grounding receptacles with GFCI fed ones. I'd say it doesn't apply since he wasn't doing that. If you DO think it applies, then why didn't you mention the 'No Equipment Ground' label? The paragraph you cited says BOTH labels. Now before you start to reply, I'm sure there IS a paragraph somewhere that says it should be labeled 'GFCI Protected' and it should be labeled. Just NOT the paragraph you show in the video.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks, good attention to details!

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel I admire your tact. I'm not a lady, my response would have been a bit...frostier.

@cadewey6181 2 года назад

Don’t forget the arc fault breaker in the breaker box. With GFI and arc fault, that sucker will never work. There is nothing safer than that!

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

? I don't see the problem?

@cadewey6181 2 года назад

@suspicionofdeceit Just do not plug in a freezer or other cap start device since the GFI sees power charging the capacitor and not returning which may trigger it.

@tedlahm5740 2 года назад

Looking for the breaker end of the install. Thank you.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

See: Pro Round 2 IDEAL National Championship from Nashville 2021 Troubleshooting and Panel Installation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tKfE4mPtdkQ.html

@Orlopez84 2 года назад

Don't like how he has the wires twisted together close to the point of contact and when done wiring one should alway practice folding the wire into the box neatly and not to just mush it all in

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@trope5105 8 месяцев назад

You're Def wrong about the 406.4d2c portion, without a doubt. That code is for replacement of *2wire receptacles with a 3, obviously that isnt done so here, so there is no need for the stickers. By your 'logic' every other receptacle on a kitchen counter would have a sticker, and that's just not so. I'm sure uve already been corrected on this, but for those watching, it's not required IF youre doing new work with "modern" wiring methods..

@foogod4237 4 месяца назад

Agreed. 406.4 (D) (2) (c) *only applies when there is no equipment ground* and the grounded receptacle is rendered safe by means of a GFCI instead. In this application, there is an equipment ground, therefore that section (and _all_ of the requirements in it) do not apply. It is not actually required to mark the receptacle as "GFCI protected" in this case (but still a good idea).

@oshtoolman 2 года назад

How about that!!! I got two right!!! Receptacles not weather resistant!!! I learned that on Sparky Channel!!!! I didnt even think about the label since they're both in the same box.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Woohoo! That makes me happy!

@charlesmclaughlin8845 Год назад

My customer was pissed that WT receptacles cost $10 more, but after i explained that it’s NEC code he came around to buying them

@SparkyChannel Год назад

I hear that!

@jimsummers487 11 месяцев назад

Wouldn’t a used fire extinguisher be cheaper?

@atmacm 2 года назад

I definitely don’t recommend taping or installing the ideal bands on outside GFCIs. Moisture can collect on the tape/band and create a path from the phase to ground, causing a nuisance GFCI trip.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Interesting!

@atmacm 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel not saying this will always happen, just my experience with the humidity here in Kansas. If the box is sealed well it might not be an issue.

@johnhanson974 2 года назад

Whose fault were the code violations? Did he have a choice of devices or did he have to use what he was given?

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Supply chain problem. The show had to go on with what they had.

@VideoByPatrick 2 года назад

Does Lowes sell those Ideal contact rubber band guards ?

@djjammindave 2 года назад

AMZAZON....10 BANDS FOR $9.99

@wingman2k Год назад

@@djjammindave woof, I'll stick to super 33

@tima.478 2 года назад

I could be wrong but why is speed celebrated in this type of work??? Sure you want to be efficient as in any job, but being the fastest seems to be a recipe for potential disaster. But I'm no pro, so....

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

This is how pros work. I think it's not so much speed as keeping a good pace. You need to set a pace that you can handle safely and work at it all day.

@tima.478 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel Thanks for the info. As a commercial aircraft mechanic, we work somewhat differently. Even though we're under strict time constraints, safety is always the elephant in our room. Not saying that it's not a priority for these pro's as well. Speed is something we just don't teach. Great content though, and I appreciate the skills. 👍

@clayadams2068 2 года назад

If you can work that fast and do a good job then fine. If not then slow down.

@willschultz5452 2 года назад

Because you want to fly through the job and go on to the next job asap so the boss makes alot of money😂. I personally don't rush because mistakes get made that way🤷‍♂️. I guess that's why I'm not rich lol. I'm more of a perfectionist

@foogod4237 4 месяца назад

The point here is that they are not just judged on speed, but also the quality of the work, too. Fast-but-sloppy won't win you points. Realistically, good contractors will usually work as fast as they can to get a job done anyway, because wasted time doesn't do anyone any favors. If you can train yourself to do the work _well_ while also moving quickly, then you won't be tempted to cut corners just because you want to get things done fast, so IMHO rewarding people for being able to do an actually good job even when in a rush is a _good_ thing.

@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 Год назад

The gfci is hospital grade? Red dot on receptical

@jragadio 2 года назад

Code violations: no torque screwdriver used on the receptCles

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Not called out by the manufacturer. It may happen some day though.

@jragadio 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel Bill, Leviton and almost all manufacturers now have torque specs for their receptacles.

@jragadio 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel maybe it would be useful to do a code video on torque requirements!

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

@@jragadio Yes, and I adhere to them. Not for everything, though. Fourteen to eighteen INCH-pounds is way less than one might think.

@TimboStang71 2 года назад

Yahhh I got the violations right. Mainly cause I got hit with these few years ago lol. Was installing a underground 200 foot pipe run and exterior outlets for a home depot tool rental, got inspected and didn't pass cause the outlets weren't weather resistant. Fixed and was "saul good man" love your channel and knowledge sparky you da man !!!!

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks so much Timbo!

@tannerbushey9196 2 года назад

I troubleshoot 80% of the time and these push connectors are a problem about 5 years after installed, only takes a few seconds to make a real connection with a wire nut, cheap quick way out not a long term connection, just saying

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@50_cal56 2 года назад

In Some countries you have to use the push connectors and can't use wire nuts

@tannerbushey9196 2 года назад

@@50_cal56 that's interesting to hear, and crazy the do that, didn't know

@Ak3rn0 2 года назад

@@tannerbushey9196 there’s a different style of stab-ins where you manually flip a tab. Supposedly, they last much longer. However, from the tests I’ve seen, they also have a higher resistance than wire nuts and therefore they heat up more.

@hangngoaigiare 2 года назад

Correct I never like this push connector and seen them burning up lot of time.

@dakotavaughan3768 2 года назад

So was this competition participant supplied devices or competition supplied devices?

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

He was supplied devices but they had supply chain problems.

@lucaamplatz1545 2 года назад

why are americans so good in everything and when it comes to an electrical installation, they are living in 1940

@Ramdodge582 2 года назад

How so?

@TheDestineyAngel 2 года назад

@@Ramdodge582 I’m guessing installation in other parts of world is as simple as plugging a cord into an outlet. Plus countries are think it’s weird that the US has a 120v standard instead of 220v at each receptacle.

@Ramdodge582 2 года назад

@@TheDestineyAngel the center tap on the transformer is a pretty slick idea

@Maatson_ 2 года назад

I picked up right away he was not using weather resistant receptacles. Receptacles with the green dot are usually 20amp hospital grade receptacles and they are not listed for outside.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Yes sir, correct!

@BigmoRivera 2 года назад

Thank You 😉👍🏽⚡️My First Time Sein A Brass Fiting

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

My pleasure, thanks Bigmo!

@Adi-S 2 года назад

That is so weird; I have NEVER EVER in my 30+ years here in the US seen a receptacle marked with WR! NEVER

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

It's a thing!

@roo8618 2 года назад

Weather resistant? Really never seen those? And TR is tamper resistant

@R0me0316 2 года назад

@@roo8618 TR isn't as visibly marked but you can sure tell when you go to use it 🤬 would have to live under a rock to not know WR though.

@squarebody8454 8 месяцев назад

In washington state the violation would be not wearing your license visibly. Here you have to actively wear your license at all times while doing electrical work.

@donl1410 2 года назад

Hey Bill. You covered the labeling of down stream GFCI protected receptacles in your video, "Do Stickers Need to be Placed on Grounded Receptacles Protected by GFCI and AFCI/GFCI?". I agreeded that labeling is not required. The article quoted here, as mentioned by others, is for installing grounded receps on non-grounded systems protected by GFCI devices. The only obscure reference might be, 110.3(B) listing/instructions. Leviton GFCI instruction say to install labels on protected devices in the testing documentation. The only time I've labeled is per 404.6 (D)(2)(C). I've never been called on general labeling. Our inspectors test for protection on required receptacles. Corrections are always appreciated to my statements.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

I understand what you're saying. If you know your inspector won't require that the protected receptacle be marked then that's OK with me. I always put on the stickers, then the users know that the receptacle is protected. Thanks Don!

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

In my jurisdiction, it is a bug-a-boo which inspectors love to fail you on. I insist on it, my apprentices think I'm a daft old lady, but arguing with inspectors over the fine points of code is only going to result in the digging until they find something.

@donl1410 2 года назад

@@ethelryan257 I don't argue. I just have them prove me wrong. If I'm wrong , I'm wrong, I'll accept it. Some inspectors have nothing better to do than pick some obscure code reference, like GFCI labeling, and see who they can nail. I don't buy it. We have cross trained inspectors in Oregon for residential, ie building inspectors who take an electrical course to do electrical inspections. They pick some building code that reflects upon the electrical code and can enforce it. like light fixture encroachment into stairwells...Like I really was aware of that! But it proved me wrong.

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

@@donl1410 It just depends on how much your local code authorities let inspectors deviate from UBC and NEC. In my county, they are demi-gods and there is no recourse. They are also vengeful and petty. There is no 'prove you wrong' to it - they can and do red tag and slap up the orange 'stop work' orders on a whim. Now, one county over, totally different. I had an inspector get upset a few years ago because I used Wago 221 connectors. He demanded every one be pulled and wirenuts used. I asked why, when they were not only code but made for a safer and cleaner install on old work. He said they were just like backstabbed receptacles. I pulled the code book, and the listings on the Wago 221s and he realized he'd just been listening to nonsense, it was the first time he'd seen them. Passed. In my county? One does not argue, one does not 'let be proved wrong' one thanks the god for pissing on us and calling it warm rain. Lucky you. As to labeling, I regard it like that rock band who put a clause in their contract that no M&Ms of a certain color could be in their break room - it's a sign of conscientious workman like attention to detail.

@barrybentham5684 2 года назад

With all due respect to my fellow electricians over the pond, watching this video, I think European/UK electrical installations are much better, "Simplification" is the word.

@markwison4286 2 года назад

Ya no, nothing in Europe is better than America. 🤷

@tttarms1970 2 года назад

@@markwison4286 the food is....

@hangngoaigiare 2 года назад

How so?

@kornelsnow3639 2 года назад

@@tttarms1970 and we at least have healthcare america is literally a third world country with a Gucci belt

@josephpimentel4624 2 года назад

@@kornelsnow3639 we have healthcare

@chilIychilI 2 года назад

I waited to see a spring load type wire tuck into the box. I Always feel like I could do that more efficiently and you have to start that plan immediately. But a shove & hold seemed effective enough for the ideal pro 🤣 I know this is not a demonstration for cosmetic perfection but every once in a blue moon, I'll pop a receptacle open and be pleasantly surprised by the professionalism in the wire tuck. Not very often but it does happen. Seeing something straped to the box with 1 and a ½ inches of wire being left is much more common here in philly. Especially if the home owner claims some "crazy unique issue" 🙄 that couldn't possibly be from the install.

@clydenakashima7393 2 года назад

Yes. and the scene at Hapuna on the Big Island.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

If I was there right now I'd be out snorkeling!

@Bushrookie820 2 года назад

God I’m glad I’m an electrician in Australia, we just call them GPO ( general purpose outlet) and we can fit one off in about 35 seconds. This looks painful

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks Dylan!

@Peaches_NZ 2 года назад

Im from New Zealand and I couldn't agree more with you, so much of what they do seems backwards and unsafe just because that's the way it has to done

@Bushrookie820 2 года назад

@@Peaches_NZ yep 100% , something about still doing steel conduit and steel fittings in houses in 2022 seems ridiculous

@jamesmcguffey3569 2 года назад

@@Bushrookie820 What are you talking about having to run steel conduit in houses? Are you referring to the codes where you live? We don't have to run any steel conduit in houses whatsoever in America

@NickFrom1228 2 года назад

@@jamesmcguffey3569 Careful with the absolutes. It's sometimes done in basements.

@benjurqunov 2 года назад

I spotted the non WR devices. But only after I noticed the GFCI was Hospital Grade, then I thought ”wait a minute...”

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Supply chain issue, but you're correct!

@Maatson_ 2 года назад

Exactly what I spotted , the green dot. Dead giveaway hospital grade 20 amp outlet

@Andyw1228 2 года назад

No electrician in Germany would use such a screwdriver! The installation looks wacky and overly complicated (so many screws).

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

What screwdriver would you use?

@Andyw1228 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel a fully insulated. In Germany there are screwdrivers insulated to 1000V for electricians. We mustn’t use these metal workers screwdrivers.

@jamesmcguffey3569 2 года назад

@@Andyw1228 This is a competition where I'm sure the contestants have to use Ideal products or else he would be using an impact drill more than likely. And you have to use a bulky insulated screwdriver in Germany wiring a couple of devices that aren't even energized? That sounds backwards to me. How does this installation look wacky? He installed those devices perfectly. So using your fancy insulated screwdriver set how would you proceed to do this in more of an uncomplicated manner? I'm curious

@Andyw1228 2 года назад

@@jamesmcguffey3569 wacky was probably the wrong term, it’s surely sturdy. But it’s overly complicated imho. One could do this without screws at all. Sockets in Germany and also Europe I might think, have clamps and you only need to push and insert the line. Screwed interconnections are mostly prohibited. The line would change its volume after time because if getting hot and cold and even the screws tend to shrink and expand. Eventually this could lead to a loose connection and thus to sparks and fire. The clamps , like Wagos, compensate this growth and shrinking. Screws are not completely forbidden and used for larger gauges in switches and other stuff.

@WyattH 2 года назад

@@Andyw1228 useless if you are not working live

@DESPYS1LOSTCITY 2 года назад

My opinion I would screw down the grounding entering the water proof box from the emt then run it to the wago/wire nuts last gfci and outlet 💡

@timdyer7692 2 года назад

Thanks, Bill! Another very good an informative video. I appreciate your analysis and references to the code.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks Tim!

@michaelbradley7529 2 года назад

So, the only violation that was in his control to correct was labeling the grounded receptacle as GFCI protected (labels come inside the box of the GFCI receptacle).

@JasonSmith-iz3xj 2 года назад

Also the devices were Not weather resistant type WR...

@michaelbradley7529 2 года назад

@@JasonSmith-iz3xj That was a supply issue and not in his control during the competition. From what the video said.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

@@michaelbradley7529 True, that wasn't under his control.

@johnhill8958 Год назад

I think the video was cut off before he was truly finished. You didn't get to see him re-open the cover and put the label on. Just like Zenith TV's, the quality goes in the cover before the label goes on.

@davidgagnon2849 2 года назад

Two comments; didn't see a nylon bushing on the box connector in the panel. Also, since he was supposed to label the GFCI with a GFCI sticker, was he also supposed to label "No Equipment Ground" as well? When reading that section of the Code it is unclear to me. Thanks, Sparky for another great video!

@illestofdemall13 2 года назад

Why would he label it no equipment ground? There is an EGC (notice all the green ground wires he connected). He just needed to label the receptacle with "GFCI Protected" sticker.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

@@illestofdemall13 Hi Kris! That's the way I see it as well.

@mattolson7037 2 года назад

@@illestofdemall13 Actually you don’t need to label the other receptacle at all. That only applies to receptacles without an equipment ground. It seems like he misinterpreted the code

@stevens4826 2 года назад

@@mattolson7037 This is also my take on it. That code section is for replacement of ungrounded receptacles.

@robert-ne1835 2 года назад

Also, a connector bushing is not required for wires smaller than #6 (or is it #6 and smaller?).

@maggiedoolin4632 2 года назад

I'm and old election when we ran a GFI circuit we had to ground the conduit to the GFI also things have probably changed it created lots of problems.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Interesting!

@erich1380 2 года назад

why not use a decora plug? looks like shit using a standard receptacle next to a gfi

@AZAce1064 Год назад

I feel stupid for not knowing about those amour bands years ago. When I wired outlets for broadcast trucks in the 90s I always wrapped the outlet terminals with rubber bishop tape. So either that hadn’t been invented yet or I didn’t know about it.

@SparkyChannel Год назад

Yes, they are a recent invention.

@BitMatt1 2 года назад

The panel is not WR so why would the recepticle need to be?

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

I don't know if the panel was exterior rated or not.

@BitMatt1 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel there is a panel cover on the floor. Looks indoor to me.

@raay92 2 года назад

No offence to US but this looks like 1930 industrial equipment. Nice video tho. I think he could made the lenght of the "pigtails" shorter so he had more space.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@TheFerrarimovement Год назад

Lol what looks like 1930s industrial equipment? The exterior metal box?

@jeremynelson8496 2 года назад

That was some fancy Ideal electrical tape.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

They are: Ideal Industries 47-110J Insulating Wrap Silicone Blue Tape ArmourBand: Amazon: amzn.to/3AYI5Rk

@kenbrown2808 2 года назад

I caught the WR fault. I spent the whole video trying to determine if the EMT connector on the box was a set screw type or a WR type. and I'd be back in about 4 years to replace that entire assembly, including the wire, because the screws would have all seized; with nonmetallic conduit and enclosure.addendum: you threw a curveball by showing the terminals on a WR rated GFCI.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Excellent points, thanks!

@Sparkeycarp 2 года назад

The EMT connectors on the EMT are compression type. I believe the different color of gold on the compression nut indicates they are weather resistant. I am used to seeing blue for this. If this was commercial I believe you have to use metal boxes and conduit.

@dawsonstinson190 2 года назад

Not impressed with the speed that's for sure

@JasonSmith-iz3xj 2 года назад

Anybody in this big of a hurry, should definitely have on there tool belt... and to the new guys, Line refers to feed in from the panel... load is power fed after...

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks Jason!

@matthewp1682 2 года назад

Thanks I always get line and load confused. To me load sounds like the power load and line is the power line to others lol

@AZHOLEN1 2 года назад

@@matthewp1682 just think of the “load” on ur back. It’s piggybacking on u while expecting u to provide all the power!

@matthewp1682 2 года назад

@@AZHOLEN1 great analogy, that should help!

@DasSnakeBoy 2 года назад

Also was the back plug screw caulked? Nice video

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

No, the competitors weren't given any caulking.

@milantrcka121 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel Supply chain problem or "I forgot"?. I thought this should to be a demo how to do things right.

@seabass22 2 года назад

Are the bands for code? Never seen them before.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Yes, they are UL listed for their purpose.

@Jeff-Lawrence 2 года назад

HI bill from Sparky Channel LOVE IT I didn’t realize GFCI receptacles had a weather resistant option. Thanks for the lesson and all your effort You’re a great commentator as well. Perhaps you should have been a sports announcer 🏎 👍👍👍

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Oh yes, they've been around for a while now. I told them at the IDEAL championship that if anything happened to their announcer I could fill in. LOL! Thanks Jeff!

@88yo88 2 года назад

i will give you a like and subscribe for an excellent video and for the spanish translation (white/blanco), very very good, well done!

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks and gracias!

@curmudgeonextraordinaire1884 7 месяцев назад

OCD is kicking in. I would have used 2 square style receptacles.

@frankortolano5886 Год назад

Wait a minute, what's an armor band

@PaulAllen.66 2 года назад

Non insulated screw drivers.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@jrtishner 2 года назад

We'll close our eyes to that one lol 😆

@hystericalstares7507 2 года назад

Really not practical using them. Testing with a multimeter does just as good and insulated drivers cost like 15 dollars a bit and they wear out fast. Best to save them for times when you have to touch a live circuit though personally I’d refuse that job, or in a situation where power generation is possible: working on solar panels or any sort of electric motor/generator

@tommytommyp7860 2 года назад

Well I’m four seconds into the video and I don’t believe they are weather resistant devices? So that is the first violation I see

@orion7741 2 года назад

dude.... you cannot comment on a video without actually watching it first.... you should really wait to make comments until you have watched the entire video.

@davidmurphy4263 2 года назад

@@orion7741 if you do not start right how can you finish right

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Excellent! Great job!

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

@@orion7741 Not on this particular video, dude.

@tommytommyp7860 2 года назад

I am so sorry for just blurting the answer out. Next time I will raise my hand. That being said, I bet I Could wrap you in 1 inch galvanized with a hickey bender!

@mdunbar008 2 года назад

Well I learned something. I've never heard of or seen these WR devices, nor have I ever seen one installed by a professional.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

They say that any day you learn something new is a good day!

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

I don't imagine box stores carry them in stock, though our local Walmart does!

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

@@ethelryan257 Yes, they are a little harder to find.

@mdunbar008 2 года назад

@@SparkyChannel So are the WR required for indoor wet or damp locations as well? Specifically looking at locations where the receptacle could be expected to be sprayed with water from a hose.

@alfonso704 2 года назад

That’ll be $1300 dollars for adding this new 20A circuit. 💰

@PappyMcPoyle-vj4vt 2 года назад

I'm in the wrong line of work

@alfonso704 2 года назад

@@PappyMcPoyle-vj4vt I’m wiring up a summer kitchen today. $7,000! I used about 2k on material pay 2 guys $500 each and the rest is all mine. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@gregr1672 2 года назад

Wow! Thank you for the quality of your videos & your explanations ! Top notch ! I love seeing tradesman that know their stuff & do clean work . I am older guy who worked doing electrical work under supervision of heavy industrial electricians who had good old school fundamental trainng. The one guy learned in vo tech & then in Air Force , went into industrial work later in life . He really taught me the importance of trouble shooting & not overlooking the simplest things first ! I learned to ask someone when I ran into something I wasn't totally familiar with . I see the electrician in the video used blue non conductive bands around the terminals .I like those . I usually wrap electrical tape around to protect in a similar fashion . I ve been told ,its a waste of time! I like it as an added layer of protection !

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Hi Greg! I agree with everything you said. The basics are really important!

@pauljanssen7594 2 года назад

And if you're going to put in a square receptacle put another square receptacle in please!

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

I know what you mean. Note a code issue, just looks better. :)

@joeturnip4216 2 года назад

As most of the outlets available these days are Tamper Proof which makes it impossible to plug anything into them, might as well call the power company and terminate the account.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Some TR receptacles really are difficult to work with, true.

@freshtype8351 7 месяцев назад

Weather rated needed

@SparkyChannel 7 месяцев назад

That's correct, good job.

@MrTooTechnical 2 года назад

Man can I get a few of those hospital grade gfci. Omg those are expensive. Lol

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Yes, hospital grade is the best you can buy. They are made to very high standards. But they aren't WR unless they are marked "WR".

@chrisavcs 2 года назад

Never seen a fs box used with emt before.

@patrickcowan8701 Год назад

The cover is weather resistant but the sticker on the load side is important for the inspector otherwise it will all work fine.

@SparkyChannel Год назад

Thanks Patrick!

@not_jose904 Год назад

Hospital grade gfci is added and standard commercial grade outlet is added

@willschultz5452 2 года назад

Good points you brought up here Bill. I noticed he used a regular screwdriver to install the receptacle to the box. I use one of those hand held electric screwdrivers, especially when installing a whole slew of receptacles. Saves on the old wrist 😂

@RB-xv4si 2 года назад

Most guys would just use their drill if they didn’t want to bother with a standard screwdriver.

@Josh-pu4wn 2 года назад

Saying hi and wtf from Australia. Your electrical language is not even recognisable compared to ours. I think I learnt something though, I always thought you guys used white for active and black for neutral. Our regulations state only black and light blue (thanks to EU) are allowed for neutral. I'd definitely have some forgetful moments wiring in your country.

@heyitsme1534 2 года назад

White is neutral for 110-120v Black, red, are the hot for 110-240v for single phase wiring. Black, red, blue and white are used as a set in 3 phase wiring Green or bare is used for grounding in single and 3 phase applications. Gray is used for the neutral in 277v applications. Brown, orange, yellow are the current carrying conductors for 277-480v Green with a yellow stripe is the ground

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Check out this video: Cheers from San Diego! IDEAL International Competition USA vs Canada vs China vs Australia: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uPME283FqnM.html Electrical from different countries is really different!

@Quisqueyax 2 года назад

Im not a pro electrician and I knew since the beginning the mistakes. Outdoor receptacles always have to be weatherproof. Even the screws, when we install devices like cameras.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@bloodeagled86zach6 2 года назад

Could've done a much better job on forming the wires in the box instead of smashing them in, neat and workmanlike manner.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@TheForgottenMan270 2 года назад

Paused the video at 6:26 to point at what looks like violations. Neither receptacle appears to be weather resistant nor tamper resistant.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

They are not WR. I think they are TR though. They had supply chain problems.

@tedmcdonald3377 2 года назад

Good morning Bill, have a great weekend 😎🛠️😎🛠️😎

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks, you too!

@graphguy 2 года назад

For the DIYer... why would one ever want to be concerned with the aspects of code that impact cost for a contractor? What I am getting at is all the 'more safer' solutions cost more but are lower restricting code compliant also, so why not just buy the higher cost code compliant downstream products? I typically do this. For example putting GFCI on any replacement receptacle and using "WR" all the time. I get it why a contractor (cost) manage it more professionally, but for a DIY where $2 vs $17... for me it is not a financial issue, I go with the safer and yes costlier product. It is not like it is a huge financial penalty.

@R0me0316 2 года назад

Only an idiot would replace all their receptacles in their house with weather rated GFI's. Code requires GFI's where there is a heightened risk of shock due to damp/wet locations such as bathrooms, laundry and kitchens or outside. Electrical code is heavily based on life safety to minimize any risk of injury, death or property damage(so insurance companies don't have to shell out). There is no use for a weather rated GFI to be installed in a bedroom unless you're REALLY planning on getting wild...

@chrisharper2658 2 года назад

He just jams the wiring into the box. Why all this speed competition? Yea I know time's money but where is the artisan aspect? Shouldn't they be teaching Sparkys to use torquing drivers as standard practice these days.

@LTVoyager 2 года назад

Because time is money and nobody sees the wiring so who cares what it looks like as long as it is safe? And professionals don’t need torque drivers for this kind of work.

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

@@LTVoyager Uh, professional here and it bothered me, I would have liked to see it folded, not stirred (that was a joke, humorless ones) and I think torque standards are overdue. Even I as a young woman sometimes over-torqued and stripped nuts. Yes, today, I have a 'feeling' but, still - the less 'feeling' and more 'science' in our trade the better.

@LTVoyager 2 года назад

@@ethelryan257 It is your prerogative to do things the way that makes you feel better. As a retired engineer, I don’t care much about feelings, but about what added value. Having impeccably placed wires in an outlet box adds zero value, and actually reduces value as you pay a higher price for the same functionality. I believe in using a torque wrench for structural fasteners in critical areas, but screws on an outlet simply isn’t one of those places. Even if a professional stripped and discarded one outlet each day, they would still likely save enough time over using a precise torque driver to make it worth it. And few professionals probably strip even one screw a year. A torque driver is simply a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist in this application.

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

@@LTVoyager Sweet. How kind to mention my lady-like feelings. You know what the torque recommendations are from Leviton for their residential receptacles? Fourteen to eighteen inch pounds. Not 'foot', inch pounds. That's basically my snug finger-tight as a fit woman in her 60's. You really think an apprentice can match something that low reliably? No. Now, of course, I'm only the business owner and the master and the person responsible for making sure my installation doesn't fail or arc or catch on fire today, tomorrow or in a decade or four. You're an engineer. You're exactly the type who would spec. those fasteners for exactly 14 inch-pounds with maybe a tiny safety margin...meanwhile, I let my apprentices try their 'feel' for that. None have ever even been close, all too heavy handed. As to time, it is faster to do the work once, to spec. than to have it fail. We're not even talking about $300 for a decent Klein calibrated torqueing screwdriver. But, even if it were slower, fine - I'm in business to make a profit through high-quality work, not through shoddy un-workmanlike performance. It takes me, after 35 years in the trade, three to four minutes start to finish on a standard receptacle when I'm being slow and deliberate. I figure six for my younger guys their first few hundred, then things should settle in about five minutes - and they do. You know what the trade average is? Between five and ten. My time costs are bids, drive time, set-up and waiting for inspectors. Now, as to folding, not stuffing the wires, you clearly have never dealt with an inspector. They see a neat installation, they are less nasty. There's also this little thing called Section 110.12 in NEC. Those of us who actually do the work take that seriously. You've no clue about field work. None.

@LTVoyager 2 года назад

@@ethelryan257 That’s funny. You have no idea how much installation work I have done. I am sorry you can’t hire people who can reliably tighten receptacle and switch screws by feel. That is pretty sad. As I said, you can do your work anyway that makes you feel good. I do work that is safe and functional and doesn’t take all day to get it done.

@gn4720 2 года назад

I'm impressed but fastest isn't always the best. Cramming the wires in the box could cause damage and a future problem. Also, put a little No alox in the threaded holes on the Bell box and on the conduit hub so the screws and fittings won't seize up. Make your install permanent and serviceable.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@atmacm 2 года назад

STL8 works far better for that

@luckyhiker3434 2 года назад

Wow! You really put a good instructional video together and your narration was just suited perfectly.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Wow, thank you!

@adisharr 2 года назад

I've never seen a wrap like that, pretty neat!. How long are they supposed to last?

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

I don't know. they are quite thick so they should last a long time.

@ryansaunchegraw2836 2 года назад

Not sure. But I'm also not sure about this competition installing electrical equipment faster than fast.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@maestrovso 2 года назад

I am taking the quiz. at 6:20 I don't see the usual test and reset buttons on the GFCI. But I realize my answer was wrong. I would remark too the pros use all these time saving products which most are not available at Home Depot/Lowes. Even if they did they are way too expensive for my tastes. The requirement to use receptacles for wet location seem overboard, as outlets are well protected from wetness because of the in use cover. I refuse the pay the outrageous prices of all these sell up products. In fact the temper-resistant receptacles are major PITA to use and often I have spend minutes to get a plug to insert.

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

The GFCI does have test and reset button but they are white, so they blend in with the white receptacle. Yes, tamper resistant receptacles are difficult to use sometimes.

@foogod4237 4 месяца назад

It's not just about directly being splashed or rained on. Outdoor locations can have a lot of humidity and temperature changes that can result in condensation inside the box (and inside the outlet itself). The protective cover won't prevent that. That's why they need to use WR devices as well, because that means they've been designed to be able to handle that level of moisture in the environment around them, too.

@mathiasklausen3026 2 года назад

bro america is way behind on electricity these kind of outlets look to be from 20 years ago

@SparkyChannel 2 года назад

Thanks!

@jakeseverson 2 года назад

Lol compared to what?

@EvesterGaming 2 года назад

Ya well we invented it.

@benjaminhansen5625 2 года назад

@@jakeseverson norway is one example

@Supertrack238 2 года назад

These do a great job, every single day by the millions.

@bretgreen5314 2 года назад

Good info. I would argue that the "GFCI Protected" label is only required where there is no equipment ground present. The typical scenario is replacement of a non-grounding type receptacle with a GFCI-protected grounding type receptacle (in this scenario the receptacle itself can be a GFCI type, or it can be protected by an upstream GFCI device). Then both "GFCI Protected" and "No Equipment Ground" labels are required.

@saltsidellc 2 года назад

No, when the down stream receptacles have a ground and are GFCI protected they get that sticker, when they don't have a ground they also get the no equipment ground sticker.

@bretgreen5314 2 года назад

@@saltsidellc Could you please reference where this is stated in the code? Thank you

@dazeman27 2 года назад

Agreed. His reference was directly referring to a branch circuit without a ground being protected with a gfci

@yourelectricman 2 года назад

Realistically, imagine those labels in a millionaires home? Not a chance. (they will have them removed instantly.) Even at anyones home, you think the homeowners going to replace that sticker that was on that plate ? Nah. Besides, if your a pro and don't have a gfci tester when troubleshooting, tgan you no pro. I Think that code was for well before the days of having said tester.. We now have breakers arc/ground fault that protect whole floors mainly basements. That code is so outdated.

@williamhortman9454 Год назад

Violation 4. He did not use a torque tool.

@AudreyPowell5904 2 года назад

You should have an electric screw driver!

@michaellindell737 2 года назад

I’m not a professional electrician, but why is there a green grounding conductor to the panel if you’re using EMT? That’s not a requirement, is it?

@joshdoeseverything4575 2 года назад

to my knowledge you are correct

@billrobert3226 2 года назад

correct but maybe the competition specifies a separate grounding conductor

@ethelryan257 2 года назад

I never trust EMT as my sole ground in new construction. I want my path to ground to have the least resistance possible, today and decades of rust from now. Ohm it out, you'll be unpleasantly surprised how poor the connection often is.