watch the first line go into operation as firefighters battle heavy fire in the basement that extends up and through the roof on this cold January afternoon.
Limited manpower, aging equipment, devoted volunteers makes a outstanding response. The cards were obviously stacked against them from the beginning yet they fought on. Awesome work!!! To the armchair quarterbacks, go volunteer or apply for a career position.
Fire is many things - scary, mysterious, dangerous etc. But seeing the fire through the cracks in the front stairs was just creepy. Haven't seen something like that on a video before.
@@ffjsb the stairs left the main floor to go to the second floor the utility (hot water tank, furnace) room in the basement was also located in the basement the area could have also had a washer and dryer in the same area of the basement but with that age of house it is most probable the basement was never finished. So the risers and treads were exposed to flame impingement and were succumbing to the fire as a result. Not saying anything against your comment just adding to it..
Before retiring I was a Shrewsbury, MA., FF. This was a classic cellattic ( cellar to attic) fire. These Uxbridge guys never had a chance of saving the house. They gave it a mighty good try though.
They didn't determine the fire started in the basement, they opened the front door to give the pressure a release location, vented the roof and windows to further the flow path through the structure and didn't apply water to the burning material. This is classic "Bad Firefighting!
@@JB91710 how do you release pressure and further a flow path entering a fire building then finding zero access to the seat of the fire. that would be the same as saying a chimney will draft smoke through it when the flue is blocked by creosote. What happened to your great brain arrogant prideful one.
Will a highly experienced Fire Chief, PLEASE Explain to me why there are SO many firemen opening multiple doors, on the roof cutting holes, breaking out so many windows, going in the window without a hose, and rarely putting water on the fire coming out of the roof, windows or on the front stairway?? They seem to have the Manpower but only one fire hose? When I was a little kid, at fire prevention week, I was told, If possible on the way out of the house, always close all the bedroom doors or all doors possible In order not to let oxygen in to feed the fire. Why are they letting SO MUCH oxygen in, and not putting water on the Fire? I'm not a firefighter, and I'm not meaning to criticize. But am I not getting something here??
@@giocco7303 Not at all... I was asking a question... I was told by firemen to always keep the air/oxygen out until the hoses are set up and ready to go. To close all the doors in the house until they arrived and are ready to open up and ready to put water on. In this case it seemed like they open up Windows Doors and Holes and were not ready with the water lines. And I asked why???
Actually, I worded that wrong. Sorry. You are absolutely correct. They caused the fire to spread to the upper floors. opening the roof and breaking the windows, caused a path for the fire to follow. I meant that a person with no fire training, understands more about flow paths than “professionals”.
@@giocco7303 Oh... Thank you Pal. I did misunderstand you and thought you were mad at my question. I always loved fire prevention week as a kid at school and always remembered everything they told me. Have a good weekend Bud!!!
Search me out in every fire video. Then you'll learn just how bad the American fire service really is. What you saw here is typical, not the exception. This is the Right way to approach fires and search and rescues. Compare what you see in these videos to what you see everywhere on RU-vid. ru-vid.com/group/PLkp0E1ao1XEzg384QZ4ovMA_6P7gCY3nJ
This fire had a hell of a head start. From the first 2 angles I didn't see any exterior evidence of a basement fire. (Just pausing it and doing my own size up) First look it looks like a kitchen fire with extension to the attic. Good job communicating it was a basement fire once inside. Radio traffic seemed calm. Good job though brothers, sucks you had you ass kicked from the start.
@@ffjsb WHAT? Again you can't even put a coherent and informative sentence together. EVERY comment I make is educational. However, it takes people with the ability to THIBNK to understand them That counts you out. All you do is act like an elementary school bully saying childish things. Kinda like your comment here. Why didn't you address my comment based on it's intent? It's pretty easy to understand. I say the work ethic of the manpower is the problem, not having enough of it. You say Stupid!
Except this isn't NY fd it's a rural area and these are volunteers who dont have the extensive training and experience. And keep in mind they had no chance at all with the advanced stage of this blaze. Get all the info before you criticize
Before you ridicule any one particular person stop to think about something, Is it possible that the guy that “loves to go full on” is simply following orders? Or maybe he’s the guy that has the least amount of experience and gets told to take the windows? Or maybe it’s an inexperienced officer or IC that doesn’t know what to do next so the orders are take out the windows. Just because some firefighter is taking windows out doesn’t necessarily mean he is running around haphazardly smashing anything In sight just because he can.
Did you do a 360 to find the fire room before going inside the front door? @ Did you try to break out a pane of glass and reach in to unlock the door? @ If Vertical Venting cleared the first floor smoke, why is there smoke still coming out of the dormer window? @ Being in the attic with all that burning going on is just plain Dumb! That thick smoke plus the air you are supplying it could flashover at any second. Considering the size of the house and all the access that was available, this department failed miserably. I don't expect anything more from a department in Infamous Massachusetts! The LODD capital of America!
It's all through the walls, they didn't have any choice but to do that to hit it from the exterior. In the early stages they were clearly trying to vent limit the fire.
ffjsb vent limit the fire? By turning the building into a massive chimney? There’s ventilating and controlling the flow path and there’s just smashing windows, leaving doors open and cutting holes in the roof for no real reason, there was no tactical thought out into the ventilation here, all it did was give the fire more oxygen to burn hotter and faster. They had 20 guys on the roof at the rear whilst the fire burned through the roof at the front, the fire won’t go out if we don’t put water on it.
@@Jimmythefish577 They busted the windows when they had to go defensive and hit it from the outside. Vent limiting is only for when you're doing an interior attack. At NO time did they have "twenty guys" on the roof, I don't know if they had 20 guys on the scene. Exterior attack was the only way they had to extinguish the fire, and to do that they HAD to take out the windows.
ffjsb Exterior attack would’ve never, ever crossed my mind. This was a bunt of a basement fire with access on ground level. Doesn’t get much easier than this.
@@heavy7799 fire starting in a basement is a dangerous and difficult fire to fight many fires will find the chimney base and will burn up through the surrounding void coming out in the attic. There is a good likelihood that the fire was already in the attic and the windows were smashed just prior to the evacuation order being given.
Had to stop watching at 5min mark. Once they opened the line into a window I was done. I hate MMQ’ing and I don’t think it’ll do any good here. May God bless this Dept and the men who serve it. I must say I do love the old engine that pulled up. Looked like an old Maxim. Other than that I threw up at just about everything else that happened or didn’t happen.
Shawn from what I am seeing the FD arrived long after the fire start whether it was from a late discovery or a slow response I do not know. What I do know is that shortly after this video began the house was a total loss due to fire smoke and water damage..
It is my understanding that when the fire is in the basement that the building is automatically a loss. I liked how the first two guys tried to fight the fire even though it was going to be a loss good job guys
Not always the case. You'll find with adequate manpower and available resources, most basement fires are knocked down pretty quick... They just had one in St. Louis on "Live Rescue" that got put out really quick.
It depends on a lot of factors. This fire had already spread. Type of construction, whether or not the basement is finished, accessibility, all factor in the equation.
Not true at all brother. Aggressive interior attack. Straight stream and correct nozzle pressure and this fire is knocked down on less than a tank of water. Home in time for dinner. And never listen to that clown JB
@@heavy7799 You weren't going to save this house, too much extension before they got there. I'd have to say they put in a good effort with limited manpower. But you're absolutely right about JB.
Looks like there was some initial confusion on how to access the basement and get to the fire room, which prob didn’t help. Maybe a better 360 would have helped. Maybe not. Overall I think they did the best they could given the totality of the circumstances. Good work guys. Nobody got hurt and everyone went home. You learn something from every job.
@@heavy7799 Be specific. While maybe not perfect, these guys worked their asses off on a tough fire with minimal manpower in freezing temps, fighting ice and snow, and no hydrants. You either have never fought a rural structure fire, or you're not a firefighter at all.
@@williamheber2118 Do you not know 2 in, 2 out is not Federal Law??? It's an NFPA RECOMMENDATION. It would be NICE to be able to have 2 in, 2 out, but it's not always practical or even possible. Are you going to tell me you'd wait for two more firefighters to show up before you'd attempt to rescue a known victim??? It doesn't mean you can't attempt to fight fire either. They're not taking a line up to the 10th floor of a high rise all by themselves.
William Heber 2 in 2 out is bullshit. Especially with short handed depts. You’re telling me you’d agree with standing outside while house burned waiting for the next company to arrive 30miles away. Not I
@@wolfpacva Heat rises...basic principle so it was not necessarily fire in the early stages. If it was then there has to be two seats of therefore, arson, but I don't think so.
ffjsb no he’s right, water is fantastic at removing one element that makes up the fire tetrahedron, these guys should’ve tried it, putting the wet stuff on the red stuff is the No 1 way to reduce pyrolysis. At least that’s the system we use on my department, it’s worked pretty good for us up until now, both in structural and wildland applications.
@@Jimmythefish577 you clearly missed the trolling of Don and Robert. Maybe by the time you're done being a probie you'll understand how much of a challenge this fire was to a minimal crew, trying to fight a well established fire in an old house.
