I have a blacked out 2016 Trailhawk, I can tell anyone thinking about getting the Hawk even a little bit, to go for it. NOTHING on this car will disappoint you. It is an absolute beast and breaks necks left and right. With the V6, you would be suprised how many cars you will pull on. This car is the Best car you can get for the price. I don't care if anyone disagrees, but this car is absolutely insane. 👍🏻
@@NitrousExpressCoyote like your MOM, I agree then. No seriously let's hear your argument and I bet it's nothing but hot air, over exaggerations and basically pure ignorance.
@@johnqpublic5938 and apparently you do? Oh wait that's right you didn't even bother to explain or articulate why he has no clue and you do. Maybe you ought to get outside instead of squandering your free time locked up in a basement.
As an extra note, get the tow package even if you don't tow. Why you ask, you get a heavy duty transmission cooler, the tow wiring harness and best of all a lower gear ratio.
I have the 2016 trailhawk and have had no issues and loving it so far. Best part of it all was I got it for a little over $28k with leather, heated seats and steering wheel, 8.4 uconnect and the V6. Everything else I didn't care for so I'm happy. I admit sometimes the tranny kinda marches to it's own beat but I haven't had any problems and I have almost 10k miles. Hope it stays that way!
Great review of all the options! And who cares if you have a note book with notes. I like that, it shows you did the research and no one has a perfect memory.
Just got a 2014 4x4 limited, fully loaded with the 3.2 v6. So far pretty good. Going to lift it hopefully before winter and also use it to haul a trailer. Can tow up to 4,000 lbs
Ok not a bad review, but you left out the most important factory package and that's the tow package! For I believe under a grand, you get a class IV hitch and all wiring for lights and trailer brakes, HD engine oil and transmission coolers and the best part, 3:55 gears instead of 3:23, with The V6, without that package the tow rating is 2,500lbs. 4 cyl or V6, with the package and V6, tow rating jumps to 4,000 lbs! Plus you get better acceleration and better use of the ninth speed! That never is used bellow 80 mpg!
T Hawk yep I discovered that as I first tarted looking at the Cherokee! So I was able to fine a Latitude loaded with Everything but the roof and electronic drivers aid gizmos! But it has the 4x4 drive II that also comes with the 1" lift, everything but the skid plates that I added later, plus mine has the 8.4" UCONNECT 911/SOS SYSTEM with nine speakers plus the cold weather package and finally the tow package! I am very pleased! I tow a travel trailer that weighs just under 3,500lbs with ease, I run down the beach in deep sand! All while average mileage of 20 city 28 hyw while empty just at the speed limits. When towing the mileage does drop to 13 mpg, but that's still not bad! But what I like most is the quiet smooth operation and get up an go!
You bring up a really sore spot with me. I am shopping the used marked for SUV/crossovers, and I am disappointed by how few have the factory towing package, especially the Cherokee. The best way to take advantage of their rated towing capacity is to install the factory towing/trailering package; although things like an aux oil cooler and wiring harness can be installed aftermarket, it's just easier to get it with the vehicle. Some include that as part of the upper trim levels, such as the Pathfinder (although I am not a fan of the CVT for towing). Considering the mission of the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee, it should be standard equipment (at least on the V-6 Cherokee and all GCs).
What all you haters dont realize is they jave ro be in these segments. Its a business, if they have to sell these to fund the Wranglers r&d then so be it or would you rather them just go out of business? Think of it as a means to end. You don't have to like it or buy it and It's not replacing the Wrangler.
Not only that, not everyone wants or needs a Wrangler. In my case, 95% of my driving is for the daily solo commute. It's that 5% when I go camping and want to load up the cargo area with seats down, or want to pull a trailer and need the towing capability. The Cherokee is ideal for someone like me who wants a nice highway cruiser that can pull a good-size load when necessary.
We Lemon Law'd a 2014 Cherokee Trailhawk. Hope they fixed the transmission. The 2014's transmission hardware was subject to failure with a factory software update. Avoid the panoramic sunroof. The little wheels inside the track system for the sunshade rattled constantly. Double check the rear cargo area. It's not that big. When our Jeep worked it drive great. Do get the heated steering wheel. The 8.4" infotainment worked well. The leather seats were very comfortable. The Firestone AT's on the Trailhawk also worked great.
Had my 2017 Cherokee Limited for almost two years. Great spec. Super smooth on long runs. Capable in a Minnesota 14" snowfall. Sufficiently capable on gravel, sand and mud. Yes, in auto there is a split second of lag but pick-up/kick-down is good for overtaking. The 9 speed box ensures you have great mid-range acceleration. Sure, it's not a 'rock hopper'. That's why I also have a 2013 JK. The KL is my everyday, smooth, 30mpg car and I have had no issues at all with it.
I feel better about 2017 and newer Cherokee models. It sounds like the bad rap that was well deserved with previous years' versions of the ZF 9-speed (not just with Jeep but Honda as well) but has been worked out for the 2017 model. I like its V-6 towing capability, and since I am usually the only occupant in the vehicle, I don't need a large three-row for 95% of my driving. I would like to buy or rent a small trailer for occasional camping, so the V-6 and the vehicle size seem to be "just right."
Well I thought this would be a great daily also, so I went a few months ago and bought a 2017 trailhawk. At first I loved the partiality and enjoyed the offroad ability, but at only 7200 miles mine is in the shop now for the 5th time. It constantly breaks, like alot. I'm on my second transmission (after the first one was repaired 3 times) and now my fuel system is messed up and being worked on. Worst of all with all the problems these are having across the board is Jeep is trying so hard not to take them back for lemon laws and keep patching them together to try and get them to 10000 miles so they have no legal responsibility to the people buying them.
Hard to believe you needed 3 transmissions? Myself and the thousands of trailhawk owners on the Jeep forums are having little to no issues with anything
@@OldbayRaven yep and the majority of 2016+ owners aren't having any transmission issues. This is of course the internet and those small percentage of people that will have issues with there transmission, just like with any other brand of vehicle, will be the ones the loudest and to comment on the internet. You have to look at stats. In 2016 transmission complaints dropped by 64% that is because in that year they finally mitigated the issues.
A vehicle that loses 70 percent of its value in a couple of years. This vehicle creates negative equity faster than you can burn through the factory brake pads.
Not every car or truck loses 70 percent of its value in a couple of years. Toyota Tacoma is a great example of a vehicle that holds its value for a long time, even better than a Chevrolet Silverado for that matter. Like used cars you have to be careful when buying a new vehicle because not doing your research (not you) can put you in the hole fast with a new car. To each their own you know.
Nick Duffy True but Tacomas rust rot extremely fast. So fast Toyota fought and lost a $3.4 billion class action lawsuit back in November. The 2016 Tacoma was Consumer Report's Least Reliable Midsize Truck of 2016, the 2017 Tacoma just made Consumer Report's Top Ten Worst Vehicles of 2017, and there are two big recalls on the 2016/17 Tacoma for rear axles that fail and lock up, and for engines that stall and leave owners stranded. Between the rust rot and poor reliability, buying a new Tacoma is a bad idea.
hochhaul Well lucky for me I don't have any issues that the new ones may have due to owners failing to properly maintain their vehicle or the manufacturer cutting corners to save weight due to emission regulations. The newer vehicles run hotter and don't last as long no thanks to obamas asinine emissions standards that also raise the manufacturers cost to the consumer.
Do not buy one of these go carts. Owned one for half a year and had so many problems. The headlights suck, the transmission is a mess, known for many problems. And everything vibrates and squeaks. Also don’t buy this for the backseat, smallest in class.
I disagree. I don’t want 4WD bc I don’t want a differential to have to deal with and would rather have better mpg all the time compared to the few days a year I may need 4WD. But I want the space of a mid size SUV
Paul Montero I had mine from July 2014 to June last year and had it towed 7 times for electronic computer faults and a transmission replacement. Then the car had a computer meltdown and spontaneously pulled to the left. What if that was on the highway? I wouldn't be here to say this. Never the less, I traded it in later that month, due to legal action against Jeep having no possible viability.
I have a coworker who bought the 2016 Trailhawk and that thing has been in the shop for more warranty work in the last year than any car should in it's lifetime!!! No thanks JEEP.
I just leased a 2018 Cherokee and I am loving it, the only issue I had was that it turned off when u came to a stop but I was able to disable it with a push of a button. I am having fun with this Jeep. Ok haven't had any issues with it. I will be back to let u guys know if I have any problems in the future. Ok so I am back as promised and Jeep suuuuucks after 17k miles m tires were bald and I had to change my wipers 7 months in. They use the cheapest parts known to man. I will never lease another Jeep again. Can't wait until its up. 7 months left.
@@krisseguin yes! After 17k miles tbe tires were bald and had to change the wipers (all 3) with in 7 months of the lease. They use the cheapest part known to man.
@@JBM425 nothing serious but the tires went bald after 17k and had to change all 3 wipers 7 months into the lease. They use the cheapest parts known to man imo.
I Use to own a 08 jeep liberty sport junk had so many issues with it could not wait to get rid of it. I switched to Toyota now and love it not cheap made like jeep was
That 9 speed transmission is nothing but garbage. It is in many cars and all have issues, but the Jeep version is the worst in reliability. When it doesn't stand you at a green light, it's constantly trying to find the right gear. Want to pass? Hit the gas and wait 2 full seconds for any response. Just Google this thing and you will not be interested.
Hey Mike the issue was in the 2014-2015. Go read on the stats, 2016-2018 the numbers dropped by 400%. Issue resolved. Honda and Land rover also had serious problems with the ZF-9 and FCA has invested more money on the software than any of the competitors thus they have the best shifting.
@mike Ferris I did google it as you suggested and it says they fixed that issue in late 2016 models and up. Also you state that Jeep had the worst reliability for the ZF-9 which turns out to be False. Land rover and Honda were worse. Matter of fact Jeep is the only one that continue to work close with ZF to eventually resolve many of it's short comings. That is why Chrysler still uses the ZF-9 in there vehicles.
Nice details Tommy. Love Tfl videos. I own a 2014 Cherokee Sport 4x4 and love it. Have to correct you on Active Drive 1 as you say more all -wheel than 4 wheel-drive, which is fine, I admit no 2-speed ptu/transfer case as you said (in AD2), so no low range, but it does lock front and rear axels becuase in all modes of Selec-Terrain other than Auto, both axels receive power (at pre-set proportions or variably, as in Sand/Mud where up to 100% of power can go to rear). What I can tell you this means from owner first-hand experience is that this is a pretty decent 4 wheel drive system as all get power and is pretty capable. I'd like to have 4low just to try and compare or experience a TH, that would be so cool! But this model has been extremely popular and for good reason. Active Drive 1 should be recognized as a 4x4 vehicle, much more so that other Cuvs that only send power to rear wheels as the power to front is lost. I'm excited to see what the refresh will look like for 2018! This has been an amazing model for FCA. And I'm also really excited for next-gen Grand Cherokee when it finally comes!
Chaseya72 Yup. My buddy bought a 2016 Anniversary Edition for $37k, went to trade it for a Wrangler Unlimited and Jeep dealers offered between $14.5k and $22k. Only had 29k miles. Ouch.
These are good now,1st to offer the 9 speed so 2014 model year ,some have issues.. Engines are bulletproof reliable and are a solid,quick,capable suv.. My Brother in law a lifetime Toyota/Lexus and Honda owner,bought one in 2016 and loves it,he says its his best car ever..2016 Cherokee with the 3.2 V6 so far 70,000 problem free miles..65% are highway.. His Jeep,he said is the most problem free vehicle he owned..He bought new Honda's (last was his unreliable failing transmission 2005 Acura) His 2014 Lexus left him stranded multiple times..So he went Jeep and never had an issue.
01trsmar I beg to differ. Our 2017 multiair 4x4 w/ less than 10k babied miles burns oil like crazy and the dealer has to replace the engine, and the transmission is getting ready to go out already too. There is no shortage of online complaints on these.
I just really wish the V6 was standard on the Trailhawk. In past years it was an option and it's stupid to me that in an off road centered vehicle I'd have to pay extra for the best off road engine.
I am looking for the vehicle that never breaks, no vices, looks perfect to everyone, perfect seating, maybe you could help by telling us which vehicle that is, twat.
I really wish they would offer a stripped down off-road model. I don't need or want all the electric add-one. Just a great locking, selectable 4wd system and AC. Manuel windows, transmission, seats, everything.
I'd love to see how the base sport trim with the 2.4l engine and Active Drive 1 does off road on gold mine hill. I think it would be awesome to compare it to some other entry-level AWD crossovers like the Subaru crosstrek and Forester, or the CRV and RAV4.
It's definitely not an off-road car, but we had twelve inches of snow fall one day in January 2018, in MN and my 2018 Cherokee got me home (20 miles) no problem, when all the clown cars were getting stuck, crashing, or sliding off the road.
Hi! Do you think this is a good car for winter then? I also live in MN and drive in the snow freaks me out. I’m originally from Brazil so drive in the snow is pretty new for me. I debating between this Jeep, CRV, CX5 and the RAV4 but I also didn’t want something too expensive
My 97 Cherokee will clobber this thing....heres the deal 2900 lbs vs 4000 lbs, yeah ur gonna need the extra ponies, but it aint' enough to match my off the line torque...simple physics. But that aside, I'll take this to the trail any day....oh yeah and enjoy ur 30K new car loan to go with your college loans.
What do you mean when you say rear locker? When talking about the 4x4. Also, at what speeds are safe or recommended for each of the 4x4 options with the Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk??? Thanks in advance if answered. Cheers
grand cherokee with the new pentastar engine and 8 speed transmission 4x4.... all the off road capability plus all the comfort and 30mpg Hwy driving at 65mph is the way to go
$42,000? For that price you could get a 4runner TRD pro or TRD off road premium with all the goodies. Less efficient and harsher ride but best resale value and it probably won't fall apart in five years.
Even the grand cherokee is only 2wd with option of 4wd. The trailhawk is standard and I believe the SRT's are as well. The wrangler use to even be standard in 2wd
Imagine looking at something with Four eyes. The design of the front of the car must be symmetrical to be esthetically pleasing. I still don't understand why Jeep signed-off on this design. I guess that's why it's mostly corporate and a rental.
non of what you stated is even true. The designed was polarizing and if you weren't lazy and ignorant which sadly you are then you could read up on why they designed it this way. The design team has done quite a few interviews explaining the reason behind this. The knew right off the bat that it was a love it or hate it design. Yet why is it that in 2019, already 5 suv manufactures have adopted the split eye design if "The design of the front of the car must be symmetrical to be esthetically pleasing" as you so authoritatively state. It's called catering to a demographic. The design was ahead of it's time as evidence by many other manufactures in 2019 copying those design cues. It also made the car stand out from the cookie cutter design used in most SUV's. Most Suv's have to much of a similar look and that an absolute fact that even other car manufactures admit. Like I said if you bother to do a simple google search you could read up on the interviews with the head designers.
Love the look. Love the FWD. Hate the name. (The Cher part.) It's a Jeep for people who don't want a Jeep. It's a huge market and they are smart to have a car for that segment, even if it's not a "real" Jeep.
Did I hear, you said that rear diff lock is unique in this class? How about Forester? It can lock front, rear and central diff and send power to one single wheel with the traction. I don't think I need to mention that fully loaded Forester XT is 5000$ less expensive that this unreliable SUV and lasts many many more moons
2:22-I like the Hardy Boys . I read ALL of their books as a kid. However you would be a lot more convincing if you put down your "Hardy Boys" book while you did this video. Is that 'The Sign of the Crooked Arrow' ? My favorite. I couldn't put it down either.
tried to build & price several different Jeep models. they get you in the door with the base model that has the engine and transmission as optional. After that, adding anything of use takes you immediately to 35K. Then you find out that it is two wheel drive. Seriously Jeep?
Why pay for True 4x4 or AWD if all you're planning to use the jeep is on the road? Front wheel drive will also save a few Mpg as well for those who won't go off road.
Ben Dunn AWD or 4x4 can be used in bad weather while on the highway or such like snowy winter or going thru the mountains. It can also be helpful while getting a trailer out of a weird spot.
Kyle MacDonald if you live in Miami and only drive around there or even snow in NYC front wheel drive can do the job.... Not saying there isn't a reason to buy all wheel drive but it's not a must sell in this market where it mostly competes in.
Ben Dunn I totally agree with you about certain markets not needing the pqckage. I know a lot of people who like to pull rvs and such with their SUVs and it definitely would be needed incase of emergencies. I know for myself if I was going to be buying any vechile that had the option of AWD or 4x4 I would definitely get it because I live in a area that gets snow from early October until late March at least and it is a great feature to have when I need to drive on certain highways to get traction at low speeds
I know your a Jeep enthusiast, I have a a 2016 TH. Mine has been fine so far, but I keep hearing about various problems with this vehicle. So much so that it makes me want to trade it in as soon as it's affordable to do so..... What do you say to that TFLcar?
Avoid at all cost! I would avoid any FCA product with the ZF 9-speed transmission. I owned a 2014 and 2015 Trailhawk. Both were bought back under lemon law. I now own a 2016 4Runner Trail edition and have had zero problems. I also own a 2013 Dodge Challenger which has been reliable for the most part.
See you make a valid argument. I agree that the ZF-9 isn't the greatest transmission in terms of performance. Sadly you bought a first year model and you ought to know better. All car manufactures such as Honda, Land rover, Acura etc..had issues with the ZF-9 which was the first 9 speed transverse tranny in the market. By late 2016, Chrysler with ZF had fixed the problems with the 9-speed. I still think they should have found a way to fit the ZF-8 in the Cherokee and mount the engine vertically. My god it would be a perfect mid size SUV.
With the new Compass out, is this even worth buying? I think the Compass is only slightly smaller, and doesn't have the V6 option, but other than that the Compass looks really good! The 4 banger in both is a bit of a shame though, 184hp seems pretty weak for 2.4 liters these days.
If you don't mind a transmission that's a total lemon, it's an OK Jeep. Not joking about the transmission. My 16 has already been in the shop for a reflash before I hit 10k miles. A few tips. Get the v6 and awd. There's no fuel savings with the 4 cylinder and there's no point in not having awd. You'll thank me when you trade it in. If you want the 8.4 uconnect, get a Cherokee that has it already. Dealers are assholes about flashing your ecm to accept an 8.4 after you buy it.
No it's not. Sorry to hear you had issues. Most owners from 2016 upwards didn't. From 2014-2015, yes the transmission was very problematic for a sizable portion of owners. Go look up the stats, from 2016 the complaints for transmission issues dropped by 64% and in 2017 they dropped another 12%, 2018 again another drop. See the pattern. The 4 banger is a joke as you mentioned and makes the transmission performance even worse.
I have had mine for 3 years and I have payed ZERO dollars in maintenance other than oil changes, cabin filter replacement and Oil filter. I do my own oil changes but they will change your oil for free the first 3 years of ownership.
I own a 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk. I just got it back out of the shop for a ESIM switch. I’ve also had an exhaust leak, the rear diff was faulty, the lift gate gave out, my starter is dragging now and the dealership isn’t helping because I’m out of warranty. It’s more of a headache than anything else with only 36,000 miles. Oh yeah and the center console is loose. I’m headed to Toyota tomorrow to check out the 4 Runners and Tundras. DO NOT BUY THIS PIECE OF CRAP CHEAP JEEP.
One the "Jeep" isn't a Jeep. Its a Fiat. So don't buy it because of that. It is a Dart with a 4x4 want to be attitude. FIATS can't stay out of a shop to save it's life. It is a DART remember that. It isn't a Jeep. Look at a Dart and remember this isn't a Jeep. They share the same frame. LoL.
I still hate this thing they couldn't make it look some what like a modernized XJ? Don't get me wrong I'm a realist and don't expect Jeep to ever completely bring back an XJ. But would have expected it to look somewhat like the original. Maybe the grill passes that test a little but that's about it. I hate it when manufacturers bring back a legendary model and fail completely at it. Kinda like when Pontiac brought back the GTO that looked nothing like a GTO...
The design is very polarizing. So it's either you love it or hate it. They knew precisely what they were doing when they designed this. They understood there primary demographic which was sadly Mall crawlers, Jeep status symbol etc....I love it's look and now that we are in 2019, SIX car manufactures in the SUV space have now coped this design. Also when they unveiled it in late 2013 within the next 2 years many other SUV manufacturers copied many of it's design ques.(not referring to the front split lights) The Italians are simply the best when it comes to external aesthetics and design.
I know the older ones were unbreakable. Only jeep offers the best off-road ability all around. Yes the 4 runner is good as well and has far greater resale...
