Watchmen: Doctor Manhattan vs. Ozymandias

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Ozymandias (Matthew Goode) attempts to kill Doctor Manhattan (Billy Crudup) by electrocuting him and Bubastis at the same time. The operation failed and Doctor Manhattan comes back to scold him telling him that he’s disappointed in him.
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@rafaelalodio5116 2 года назад

Ozymandias is the world's smartest man, but you can see in his face that he was really expecting his plan to kill Dr Manhattan to work.

@aaronjjacques 2 года назад

He planned out both senarios if succeed there was no one to stop him. If he didn't his success would convince dr manhattan to protect his lie.

@g00gleminus96 2 года назад

@@aaronjjacques Exactly. He had won before anyone but him knew that he had a plan, much less what his plan was.

@sporf_sporf 2 года назад

In the comic, he really wasn't sure if it would work and I wish they'd kept that line in there. He also wasn't entirely certain he could catch the bullet. There were uncertainties in the plan and variables he knew he couldn't account for and would need to be able to adapt to. A few important cut lines would have made him smarter and less arrogant.

@aaronjjacques 2 года назад

@@sporf_sporf i think most people are smart enought to catch it. Especially if you watch the directors cut and you get plans within plan/to me he was screaming to world speach

@icelakfp788 2 года назад

@@aaronjjacques can you catch it?

@BountyHunter-ep8jk 2 года назад

The fact that Dr Manhattan says “It didn’t kill Osterman” really shows how far gone from humanity he is, besides his powers and abilities.

@Bruhnwhat 2 года назад

So is he Omni poten

@CloroxBleach-qy7vy 2 года назад

@@Bruhnwhat dr m is nigh omnipotent. Just from a showcase of what the batman who laughs was able to do with manhattans abilities its hard to imagine the guy not being auto top 3 or 5 most op comic characters to touch dc.

@Helgrind44 2 года назад

It did kill Osterman though.

@jackflowt 2 года назад

@Miki rin nah but top 5 maybe

@aaronlevy6054 2 года назад

God is all powerful I am just His Speaker 🔊

@ohcrap3263 2 года назад

Dr Manhattan is so OP, you could say the story happened just because he allowed it.

@fredmachine 2 года назад

As Rorschach said in the end, "If you would have cared from the start, none of this would have happened".

@dread1262 2 года назад

Lmaoo

@tylersoto7465 2 года назад

He has the power to create and shape reality to his will , he definitely has the power to rule the world indefinitely as a planetary God , it would be like living in the god of war video games world and zeus being the only god in it and the world is his ultimate prize lol

@WildBillHickums 2 года назад

@@tylersoto7465 I don't think 4th wall multiverse characters like Presence or even Cosmic Armor Superman would allow Dr Manhattan to impose this reality. There are checks and balances to what the super powerful Cosmic characters are allowed to do by the ones above them.

@tylersoto7465 2 года назад

@@WildBillHickums ik I'm just saying he has the power to create or reshape

@RAY.POLARIS 2 года назад

"I 've walked across the surface of the 🌞" . That tells it all.

@whiskeySe7en 2 года назад

Except for immediately after he gets played by ozmandius's plan

@doccarter5283 2 года назад

You think he's hot?

@albertoromero6668 2 года назад

He has seen a man turn himself into a pickle. It was the funniest shit he has ever seen.

@rickrouse7865 2 года назад

he was one of the smashmouth?

@dhritimanbora6675 2 года назад

Yeah! That tells he's bluffing. For there is no physical surface on the 🌞 to walk on.

@Gwoblesto189 2 года назад

The fact that he kills his tiger.... it trusted him so much

@Nugnugnug 2 года назад

You really think Adrian cares about betraying trust?

@Gwoblesto189 2 года назад

@@Nugnugnug do you really think anyone cares what you think ?

@mozart7074 2 года назад

@@Nugnugnug i mean he does care, thats why he killed millions to save billions.

@Nugnugnug 2 года назад

@@Gwoblesto189 facts don't care about your feelings.

@Nugnugnug 2 года назад

@@mozart7074 do the ends justify the means though? Does a species willing to commit atrocities to survive even deserve survival?

@woodjacoodja9544 2 года назад

*Catches bullet. She proceeds to dump the other 5 rounds into him as he's falling. The end.

@Discorded 2 года назад

Bullet didn't even pierce his skin what would that have done?

@woodjacoodja9544 2 года назад

@@Discorded Yeah, he caught it cause he's fast enough. Not bulletproof. Took all that to catch one. She could've lit him up before he'd be ready to catch another. Plot armor.

@ethanhayes7205 2 года назад

@@Discorded shit, even IF he was actually bullet proof, I doubt he'd recover quickly from the concussion caused by bullets bouncing off his head.

@K1NG0FW0LV35 2 года назад

@@woodjacoodja9544 its.a.fucking.superhero.movie.take.your.real.world.logic.elsewhere.

@operationancut 2 года назад

His death didn't matter anyway, He has had already achieved his plan

@synthonaplinth5980 2 года назад

The CGI body language of Dr. Manhattan is so well done in this scene. He knows he can reassemble himself and just goes along with the process.

@elloowu6293 Год назад

Lol, right, he's like "really Adrian?"

@canadianrenegadehunter2730 Год назад

Yes, spreading his arms and allowing it

@josephpoon9276 6 месяцев назад

But can he reassemble some clothes on? Checkmate,

@Krcun774 6 месяцев назад

@@josephpoon9276He needs to be butt naked so he can rizz female Gods

@EvenFive 6 месяцев назад

@@josephpoon9276 In the TV versions of the film he wears speedos

@Yonkage-ik5qb 10 месяцев назад

I love the line, "the worlds smartest man poses no more threat to me than does its smartest termite". It's pretty typical for a powerful being to boast that the power difference between them and a human is akin to that between a human and an insect. But Manhattan takes it a step farther here, saying that the difference between himself and Adrian is so vast that humans and termites are the same thing, close enough in power to be lost in the error margins.

@Academician100 8 месяцев назад

But it wasn't a termite, it wasn't even a god (Dr. Manhattan), it was a man who saved the world. All Manhattan's power and he couldn't prevent armageddon. It took Adrian.

@edwardcarballo5843 7 месяцев назад

@@Academician100 it's more like he just didn't care to.

@TharinduManeesha 7 месяцев назад

@@Academician100 well, read Doomsday Clock...

@FreshArtsy 6 месяцев назад

logic bro, the line doesn't boast that the power difference between them and a human is akin to the difference between human and an insect, it actually means the power difference between them and a human is so large that the power difference between human and an insect doesn't even register on that scale, not equal to it.

@houseoftoussaint9609 6 месяцев назад

@@FreshArtsy But intelligence. Intellectual capacity. I recognize the power and ability being that to God among insects but being that the foundation was human. The intelligence aspect I think should not be discredited. I’m sure Dr Manhattan even without his ultra perspective on reality is a good critical thinker. With his godlike perspective he is formidable true. Immune to being outwitted tho? I am not so sure. Especially since Dr Manhattan was human as well. I would never underestimate humanity to such a degree. Like humanity could never pose a threat. I dunno. Food for Thought and imagination

@fungustheturd4004 2 года назад

Censoring in a nutshell: “bastard” is beeped but total molecular deconstruction from skin to bones is showed perfectly

@Interdiffusion 2 года назад

It kind of matches Dr Manhattan's point. Whoever censored the word is Ozymandias while we watching are Dr Manhattan.

@StereoDreams385 2 года назад

Showing a scene is fine but RU-vid's sensors would pick up cuss words and flag it .

@justinwisdom4950 2 года назад

it's funny you're worried about the spooky skeleton not getting censored when there is a donger flopping about in the middle of frame

@deeznuts23yearsago 2 года назад

And his glowing blue dong is straight flopping around

@dorbid 2 года назад

Puritan America in a nutshell. Sex and language terrifying, but violence the building block of the nation.

@justtryingtoseektruth.5884 2 года назад

"I've walked across the surface of the Sun. I've witnessed events so tiny and fast they can hardly be said to be occurred at all...but you, Adrian, are just a *man* ". Fucking goosebumps everytime. The incredulity, disappointment and little note of astonishment in his voice in front of the narrowness of human ability to understand and alter a universe so complex and unrelenting in its infinite scale levels that these pathetic attempts almost instill compassion. This is one of my favorite part for a reason: it succeds to truly unmask the real nature of human being, nothing more than a meaningless grain of dust in the wind that claims to controll everything around.

@anthonypolonkay2681 2 года назад

I actually hate it, because doctor Manhattan is also just a man that just got his particles ripped apart, and reassembled, and now for some reason he is now functionally a god. But even though this event has transposed him so beyond human capability, and understanding he still has a subplot where he is compelled by sexual desires, and is drawn to "beautiful" women in the exact same way normal, non god men are. Its rediculous, and completely undermines any significance his speech about how insignificant humans are may have had.

@delcox8165 2 года назад

And the absolute irony of that lecture of superiority being directed at the man that was, in fact, a step ahead and playing the good Dr. M for a fool.

@NeoCreo1 2 года назад

@@delcox8165 Amen

@growingstruggle5493 2 года назад

@@anthonypolonkay2681 indeed his behavior confirms his statement, his godly nature is still under the influence of his primordial instincts, no matter his facade, he's still a human with the powers of a god, but if we shall believe that he trascended to something else, we can draw two conclusions: either he's not really the guy he wants us to believe or we should value beauty and youth on an higher standard.

@anthonypolonkay2681 2 года назад

@@growingstruggle5493 it seems more likly that it's the first one. That his whole transcendence is a facade and that he is just wicked powerful physically. Otherwise all the problems for him would not be problems. In so far as if the 2nd thing about valuing youth, and beauty at a higher standard if he is indeed transcendent, that would be implicative that humanity has some form of speciality to it. An imago dei if you will.

@benjamintribe4652 2 года назад

Dr Manhattan: "the world's smartest man poses no more threat to me than does it's world's smartest termite" the words of a god!!!...the dialogue in this movie is of mythical proportions enough to send chills through your body!!😱🥶

@NymbusCumulo928 2 года назад

Um no, the movie sucked ass and the writing was the worst part.

@DHGxMcFlurry 2 года назад

@@NymbusCumulo928 Ok go off, nobody cares though

@thesamsquatch2704 2 года назад

The good parts were taken verbatim from the comic - that’s Alan Moore’s dialogue, not Zach Snyder’s.

@privatename5788 2 года назад

The beauty of it is that Ozzy still outsmarted him. The world's smartest man beat "god".

@MsDragonbal776 2 года назад

Lol I was just mulling over that line. Such a powerful statement lol

@beefchief2320 2 года назад

You want to know what makes this movie so much more disturbing...Ozmandies was right. By framing Dr Manhattan, he brought everyone together and stopped them from destroying themselves at the hands of their own paranoia. He saved billions in a twisted, deranged sort of way. The way that a sociopath would think to do.

@juniusbobbledoonary9667 2 года назад

It would only really work if Dr Manhattan went along with it and showed up every once in a while and pretends to be fought off

@renooblivion9526 2 года назад

His plan was a bandaid solution at best. Greed and war win out against paranoia eventually.

@chaoswraith 2 года назад

Wouldnt dr manhattan need to keep showing up periodically? Didn't he just leave? In 50ish years humanity will be back to its usual old self destruction

@fabianp.2986 2 года назад

When ppl find a common enemy to band against, their animosity against eachother will subside 99.9% of the time

@keenancollett6465 2 года назад

@@fabianp.2986 How did that work for the soviets

@lightknightgames Год назад

I just noticed, Ozymandias is only fearful when someone is emotional. Because you can't predict someone who is irratic. It's probably also why Rorshach is the first to catch on to something being wrong.

@CorbenikClay Год назад

Also why Ozy says that he did not expect Comedian to have a change of heart.

@Fluxion77 9 месяцев назад

Nah, far easier to predict the actions of an emotional person than those of a calm, rational person. You have it completely backwards.

@skeetsvar162 8 месяцев назад

@@Fluxion77Calm rational people tend to act in a calm rational and easily predictable manner. Emotional and irrational people tend act in a predictably emotional and irrational manner. Let's stop pretending humans are actually in anyway complex and accept the fact that we're simply the smartest monkeys on a tiny ball of dirt.

@Fluxion77 8 месяцев назад

@@skeetsvar162 Clearly, you've never studied psychology. A calm person can act ANY way they want, because they're calm and able to think clearly. Their actions can be predicted OR completely unpredicted--which means overall, they're UNpredictable. Emotional people aren't thinking clearly, it's much more difficult for them to be clever, which is what makes them more predictable. Make them scared or angry, and it's much easier to anticipate their next move. Unscrupulous politicians use this to their benefit. Emotion and reason are opposite ends of the spectrum--emotion is very close to instinct, which is a pre-programmed response. If you don't believe me, try playing chess (or poker) against an emotional player versus a calm one, then tell me whose moves were easier to predict.

@paulleach3612 7 месяцев назад

@@skeetsvar162 Apes. We're the smartest apes. Where did you people go to school...?

@justinchapman8844 2 года назад

Other than the ending this movie stays pretty faithful to the source material. I don't know why so many people don't like it.

@danlorett2184 2 года назад

It's really because the original graphic novel was all about developing the characters - something this movie kinda failed to do on a lot of accounts. It also didn't have very good pacing and a long runtime. I do think making Dr. Manhattan the patsy instead of a fake alien invasion was a smart touch tho.

@rururusack 2 года назад

True, mostly they hate it bcs snyder.

@joeykelly5642 2 года назад

Many of the people who saw this movie when it came out were unfamiliar with the source material. This was before edgy superhero flicks were the norm, so it pissed a lot of parents off. Unclear marketing didn’t help in that department either. Additionally, critics panned it for being too narratively complex - in their minds, it either needed to be divided up into several movies (horrible idea), or simplified for the average consumer. Ultimately it isn’t the turn-your-brain-off, cookie-cutter experience that typically leads to commercial success and critical acclaim. Imo there were minor pacing issues, but other than that, it was the best Watchmen movie anyone could have hoped for. If it came out a few years later with a better marketing campaign, it could have done better in the box office - but it was never going to be an extremely popular film

@markjackson3531 2 года назад

it was really good, but they should have kept the "alien invader" and the clues leading up to it....that would have been SO much better than just an explosion, although the explosion visuals WERE good....

@markjackson3531 2 года назад

@@danlorett2184 NO ! Fake Alien was better ! Adrian used Manhattan to duplicate his teleportation, that was enough.

@bubbahottep8644 2 года назад

Given the possibility that ozzy would turn out to be problematic in the future, I'm surprised that Doc Manhattan didn't poof him into an expanding cloud of guts as well.

@user-uq4gr5nl5o 2 года назад

He couldn't see what Ozzy would do because of the tachion technology.

@bubbahottep8644 2 года назад

@@throwaway05 yes, perhaps Ozzy's joke was excessive, but at least it was funny.

@bubbahottep8644 2 года назад

@@user-uq4gr5nl5o nor, apparently, did he simultaneously disarm every nuclear device on earth. I know- like all of our criticisms, that would've been a different movie.

@bubbahottep8644 2 года назад

@@throwaway05 yup. Short movie though. Smartest man in the world ...

@Colin-kh6kp 2 года назад

@@throwaway05 I wouldn’t call the Comedian evil, I’d say he was a broken product of war.

@peacefulguy4145 2 года назад

"I'm very disappointed in you ...reassembling myself is the first trick I learned" love that movie

@kilderok 2 месяца назад

I like how it is immediately followed by failing to snatch him up LMAO

@JumperAce 2 года назад

Dr. Manhattan knows that Ozymandius is just a man, but Ozymandius knows that Dr. Manhattan is not a god.

@keenancollett6465 2 года назад

Closest thing in their universe

@keenancollett6465 2 года назад

Actually would be here too more so even

@thederpinator6636 Год назад

he kind of is

@vrhehdbd3453 Год назад

I mean he is a god.

@KNullHypothesis Год назад

Ehhhhhh not persay. Anything that happens in this film is because of Dr. Manhattan's passiveness. He could very easily stop all of it from happening, pretty sure even the bombs made out of his own energy

@robertwaugh7296 2 года назад

He is the most intelligent superhero. Each of his dialogue is very good for deliberation. The way he feels the delight of uncertainty. He is not attached to the world but still works for the welfare of it.

@NazriB 2 года назад

Lies again? Dr. Martens

@delcox8165 2 года назад

And yet, he wasn't able to save it. Or, "just a man" was.

@4Astaroth 2 года назад

Manhatten is not smart. Veidt is also stupid. The problem with the entire movie is the ending. The rest of the movie is great but the end is dumb. Manhatten likes Veidts plan and doesn't know that his plan will fail in the long run is stupid. Night Owl realizes the bad thing about that plan after Rorschach is killed, that it will leave behind a deformed humanity. Also since the newspapers have Rorschachs diary they will print it and the world might know that Veidt did all of those bad things. And when Manhatten left the planet there is no threat humanity can go against. Since Manhatten was an American citizen they might even combine their forces against America, so Veidt just killed millions for nothing, just to feel better by being "smart". The problem is that both Mahatten and Veidt are idiots.

@khymaaren 2 года назад

@@4Astaroth People are easily deceived and don't like to be made aware of it, lest they have to admit that they were fooled. They believed that Manhattan-someone who many, if not most, were already afraid of-killed millions and would gladly regard a dead man's diary as a conspiracy theory without much merit or outright fiction. So, it's not a win on Rorschach's part, either. It's down to Nite Owl and Silk Spectre to decide if they should convince the world but they would have a hard time even if Veidt-a popular public figure who is viewed as a humanitarian-confessed to the whole world.

@4Astaroth 2 года назад

@@khymaaren Good points. As I know humanity something like that can never be maintained over long time period. Having all people to be nice to each other? That's a lot to ask for. A "win" on Ozymandias side would work for a week maybe or a month if everyone is really cool to everyone else but there will always be a monster who is not nice, and it will awake other monsters.

@sairen5121 Год назад

Oz is the kinda guy who would make Lex Luthor and Batman's strategy and prep look like child's play.

@anthonycarter4 Год назад

Lies.

@sairen5121 Год назад

@@anthonycarter4 explain

@anthonycarter4 Год назад

@@sairen5121 It's self explanatory who both of those gentlemen are. Oz outsmarted Dr. Manhattan. Batman outsmarted the most dangerous person in DC (Darkseid). And I don't even need to say who Lex outsmarted. All 3 are very smart. But saying batman is child's play is crazy. At least say Oz is a little smarter lol.

@smellit Год назад

Child's play 🤡 Batman would easily outsmart OZ

@lordkira9791 Год назад

not even close

@LeonMire Год назад

I think Ozymandias really did think it had a chance of killing Dr. Manhattan, but he still had a contingency plan. As soon as he realized Dr. Manhattan was still alive, he dove for the remote control as if he knew it was the last trick up his sleeve.

@petaisajoke Год назад

The remote control was just to turn the TV on lol, he enacted his plan before this all happened. Do you really think he would explain his master plan if there was even the slightest possibility of it being stopped.

@antourte1 10 месяцев назад

@@petaisajoke Entirely missing the point lol. We all saw the movie we know what the remote did. He dove for it anyway because turning on the TV and talking to Manhattan was indeed his "last trick" available - to convince an angry god he was right all along.

@doriancoreyscloset421 2 года назад

I remember watching this movie in theaters. Everyone *HATED* it! People outraged at this naked blue man on screen. 😂 Only when I watched this at home on dvd did I realize what a masterful work it really is

@user-ol5bj4dm2v 2 года назад

What a bunch of losers lol. So sensitive.

@doriancoreyscloset421 2 года назад

@@user-ol5bj4dm2v well I mean few people went to see this movie with the expectation to see gratuitous blue dong slanging to be fair. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@lindagoad2163 2 года назад

It's a good film but I would recommend reading the comic as well. It's a piece of art (not just in terms of the art part lol).

@EliFarb 2 года назад

@@doriancoreyscloset421 it wasn't nudity for the sake of nudity though. There's a reason Dr Manhattan refuses to wear clothes

@doriancoreyscloset421 2 года назад

@@EliFarb this is true. Thus my epiphany upon watching it again at home

@deolenblanco2323 2 года назад

Dr. Manhattan: "Adrian your just a man" Proceed to give Dr. Manhattan an existential crisis.

@rudyNok 2 года назад

*you're

@deolenblanco2323 2 года назад

@@rudyNok thank you pedant

@mariovazquez7801 Год назад

@@rudyNok Who gives a 💩

@gavin5239 7 дней назад

@@rudyNokshut up

@Bleh200 7 месяцев назад

“I’m disappointed in you Adrian, very disappointed” I love how he doesn’t even sound pissed off that he tried to kill him, he sounds like a teacher telling off child.

@RyanKufang1 2 года назад

People can say what they want about this movie but I was a pretty solid one I love the fact that basically the bad guy won and yes I know it lead to “world peace” but that whole part of how are you going to stop me my plans started 15 minutes ago was just the best I wish more movie villains where like this

@mrtrailexplorer2004 2 года назад

I like movies where bad guys win.

@evanater13 2 года назад

Rorschach "wins". His diary makes it to that journalist, so the implication is that eventually the world learns the truth and things go back to the way they were before

@TheBestCommenterEVER 2 года назад

it's just a direct copy of the comic book, down to the cinematography.

@billyboblillybob344 2 года назад

@@evanater13 Funny how people tended to miss that fact and that Dr Manhattan was somehow unaware of it as well...

@henryptung 2 года назад

It's a crapsack world, so proper "heroes" are always limited by incompetence and anti-hero vs. anti-villain is the best (among humans) the world gets to choose from. Manhattan, because of his nigh-omnipotence and omniscience, is reduced to an alien/unfeeling force of nature because of that power and knowledge.

@FUBUKANI23 2 года назад

Dr.Manhattan pretending to be dead just to gave them a feel of success

@jedmuff5597 2 года назад

Apart from the fact that Ozamndyas did actually win in the end, in his own way

@Johnston212 2 года назад

He didn't do it for that reason. They let their guard down when they thought that he was shot. In doing so he was able to disarm her which, in turn, disarmed the Owl. You honestly believe that he would care about anyone else's success?

@BlackDiamond2718 2 года назад

“I just want you to feel that you are doing well. I wouldn’t want anyone to die embarrassed.”

@nestoreleuteriopaivabendo5415 2 года назад

I like to think that he was indeed dead, and resurrected himself just as he did years prior. In that time he worked on it for weeks. In this case he could do it in mere minutes.

@seraphik 2 года назад

"I have walked across the surface of the sun. I have witnessed events so tiny and so fast they could hardly be said to have occurred at all." I love those lines. They're not just total flexes, they also imply a total mastery of gravity and quantum mechanics, which are arguably the last frontiers in physics. Totally makes sense for a god-like being with a background in particle physics.

@user-xw4hn7lb3x 4 месяца назад

Gravity is easy to understand. I have figured out how it works. Quantum mechanics are easy too. Such as redoxing the pathogens in your body so you can live in perfect health and live longer. I am beyond this world, but stuck in a trap.

@kilderok 2 месяца назад

@@user-xw4hn7lb3x "Quantum Mechanics are easy too" LMFAO not even top experts will ever claim that, it's an "open one door and find another" field. I'm willing to bet you don't know your muon from a gluon. "I am beyond this world, but stuck in a trap" yeah, it's called "your ego". Drop that if you want to actually expand your brain. A true genius knows they know nothing at all. It's why science changes all the time, we can only approximate until new evidence presents itself.

@user-xw4hn7lb3x 2 месяца назад

@@kilderok uhmm...ok. Whatever you say I guess. When you lose a loved one to disease or cancer, just know that I have the knowledge to save them. Good luck.

@prezentoappr1171 9 дней назад

Have yall find other haven than the 1st that are made from jewel like jades?

@seraphik 9 дней назад

@@user-xw4hn7lb3x 🙄 how boring is your life that you gotta make up wild shit for internet points

@backtopurrrfectagain6681 2 года назад

Dr. Manhattan: "What's that? Another ultimate weapon?" Ozymandias: "do I look like a guy with a plan?"

@unluckylife 2 года назад

he is

@hibarikyoya854 7 месяцев назад

I think its a nice touch how Ozymandias hesitated to press the button that would kill his tiger it shows he doesn't like what he's doing but it is the right thing to do for peace. It humanizes him quite well imo

@user-hu9vi7nk1l 5 месяцев назад

It was also to save himself. His plans always included his own survival, even though many more were killed.

@darthdever66 Год назад

“The worlds smartest man poses no more threat to me than the worlds smartest termite” I fucking love that line!!

@jammerc64 2 года назад

I love how giant Manhattan sounds completely different than his regular form. Voice seems to come from everywhere.

@theozlander4629 2 года назад

Kinda was a humanizing moment for Oz that he hesitated when he saw his tiger in the way and asked her to forgive him. It's refreshing to see an antagonist like Oz not painted as a complete sociopath

@ZerpDerp Год назад

It's actually a classic attribute of sociopaths that they sometimes care about animals more than people

@John-115 Год назад

Psychopath*

@The_Keeper Год назад

@@ZerpDerp I would argue against Oz being a sociopath; A sociopath cares only for one thing, him-/herself. Oz could *easily* have constructed a shelter to wait out the impending nuclear war. He didn't. He orchestrated a plan, at great risk to himself, even allowed himself to get hurt (a sociopath would *Never* allow that) for it to work, in order to save humanity from itself. Oz cares about everyone, but he knows that to make the superpowers put away their differences and stop fighting, they need a bigger threat than eachother to unite against. This is even more obvious in the comics. The plan can basically be boiled down to; The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few. He might be a megalomaniac, but a sociopath? No.

@unknownstranger6875 Год назад

@@The_Keeper He was diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He wanted to save the world because he wanted to play hero.

@antourte1 Год назад

@@ZerpDerp Yeah I thought he was even more of an asshole for apologizing to just the tiger and not his colleague/maybe-closest-thing-to-a-friend haha.

@O4C209 Год назад

Funny how everyone thinks this scene shows Dr. Manhattan beating Ozymandias who is being arrogant when it's actually Ozymandias besting Dr. Manhattan by using his hubris against him. Dr. Manhattan was more interested in not knowing what was happening than winning (I could turn the walls to glass) and then thought he was beyond failure only to realize Ozymandias wasn't trying to kill him, just distract him long enough (by vaporizing him) to kill millions of humans and blame Dr. Manhattan.

@prathammishra69 2 года назад

Zack Snyder knows how to adapt an perfect Comic book scene in a legendary way.

@sevvy101 2 года назад

How to adapt "a" perfect "comic" .... Poor grammar is the sign of ignorance and laziness.

@prathammishra69 2 года назад

@@sevvy101 okay

@pram0385 2 года назад

@@sevvy101 shutup

@derpfanatix3168 2 года назад

@@sevvy101 who give a shit except you, we know what he meant by it

@azathoz 2 года назад

@@sevvy101 when you attack the grammar instead of offering a counter argument it's always a bad sign.

@Abominatrix650 Год назад

"What's that? Another Ultimate Weapon?" That's such an OP line. The line expresses the idea that Manhattan not only shrugs off Ultimate Weapons but does so unconcerned. Good writing!

@riceburner6739 2 года назад

the remote control always bothered me, its the most uneconomical design ive ever seen.

@dtoora 2 года назад

Looks sick tho

@cornishalps9870 2 года назад

Ergonomical not economical

@jessejames3040 2 года назад

It was the 80s. What did you expect?

@samueld5418 2 года назад

you always bother intelligent people

@bostongalden1171 2 года назад

😆😆

@michaelzoran Год назад

This version of Ozymandias that we saw in the Watchmen movie was 100% correct. Ozymandias actually did "care" about other people - particularly the entire human race. The logic behind the thoughts of Ozymandias was very simple - it is worth it to sacrifice "millions" in order to save "billions," as we heard him say in the movie. I did NOT like the Watchmen TV series version of Ozymandias. The TV version was more of an insane madman who would kill people for his own entertainment - literally sacrificing the lives of people in plays that were performed in front of him. That version of Ozymandias was NOT accurate.

@KMCA779 Год назад

now I'm even more glad I didn't watch it.

@antourte1 Год назад

I don't mind that you didn't like it - I thought that was a pretty damn extraneous and often annoying subplot - but I don't think current and future Ozymandias are inconsistent. a) The moon men were artificial people with simplified personalities that were essentially replicated with each clone IIRC. While views vary on how much humanity that brings with it, you could easily see Ozy regarding them as not having the same inherent value as regular humans. b) Ozy was probably a bit more nuts than he is in this scene, after all his years in exile.

@ryukshinigami13 6 месяцев назад

As a 40k Imperial Inquisitor once said, "Some may question my right to destroy a world with ten billion souls, but those who truly understand realize I have no right to let them live." Sometimes you gotta torch a planet to save the galaxy.

@Jamietheroadrunner 5 месяцев назад

That thinking means you’re an irredeemable psychopath. That is disordered thinking, a justification for playing god. It makes Ozymandias the most evil comic book villain of all time, worse than even Elon Musk.

@Duma2011 5 месяцев назад

The tv series takes place 34 years after the events of the original comic. Ozymandias could have changed after all those years.

@dmg4mer432 Год назад

I felt very bad for Bubastisa, and in the comics you can see that he truly was upset that he killed Bubastis, who was his pet Lynx

@travonjackson3170 2 года назад

Ozymandias be like: "Cool rant about me being insignificant. Now go tell it you yourself on another planet, cuz nobody wants you here." Completely wrecked Dr manhattan

@XManium 9 месяцев назад

"Challenge accepted!" -World's smartest termite.

@hexagonshorts2186 Год назад

This movie was just ahead of its time That time no one wanted to see superhero dark sides and their consequences while today we have millions of fans who are enjoying the Boys.

@mazinrejabo4624 2 года назад

This the first hero movie that i saw i was in shock to witness the darkness and maturity and mystery so beautiful and so new to what was their and still to this day in 2021 remarkable piece of art

@pvshka 2 года назад

For a similarly gritty tone, check out The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

@l0sts0ul89 2 года назад

@@pvshka which one

@pvshka 2 года назад

@@l0sts0ul89 the 2003 movie, obviously.

@alistairwalker2850 2 года назад

Imagine if Adrian’s pet eventually becomes Bubastis Manhattan.

@Chris-qo4rt Год назад

This is how a Batman vs Superman fight would end if we're being realistic

@eetfuk3571 11 месяцев назад

if it is not for Batman's stupid plot armor*

@gc3k 5 месяцев назад

"I'm disappointed in you, Bruce"

@androssteague Год назад

This movie really was ahead of its time. I truly believe the world would not be as accepting of The Boys as it is today if we hadn't been marinated by this movie first.

@teotlxixtli Год назад

We wouldn’t need thee boys if we’d heeded the critique of superhero media in watchmen the first time around

@_abuanusnarrated_9299 10 месяцев назад

All you ungrateful people. Why you don't acknowledge the good deeds done by VOUGHT 😢

@alfredohumberto2222 10 месяцев назад

And then by Man of Steel

@JoshuanKnode 2 года назад

Speaking as someone who’s been around for the 80s yes, there were remote controls that looked like that. And no, no one really bought them lol

@TriggaC74 2 года назад

😂

@upgrayedd719 2 года назад

"I have walked across the surface of the sun" ...let that sink in. My favorite line from the movie by far

@The_Notorious_N.O.E. 4 месяца назад

"What's that? Another Ultimate Weapon?" "Nah, just the TV remote"

@MegumiHayashida 2 года назад

Dr. Mano is the closest visual interpretation of an almost Omnipotent deity on screen. Ozy really sacrificed his big cat for nothing.

@naynaynay324 2 года назад

The point is Ozy wanted to remove Dr. M from the scene long enough for his plan to come to fruition and preventing Dr. M from interfering. It's more clear in the book, which also is better on account of not making Dr. M the big baddie.

@konosubashi7976 Год назад

What happened to the cat,did the cat turned into manhattan too?

@michelguy5569 2 года назад

When a go out my first watching of this film, I had a strange feeling, except for silk specter (the woman), I feel able to understand every points of view : Manhattan, Ozamndyas, Owl and Rorscharch. I was able to understand behond any moral position. The distance of Manhattan, the cold but necessary choice of Ozymandias, the good man in Owl and the cynical violent vigilante with no pity but obsessed by the truth Rorscharch. They all have a point of view you can understand. And for me, Ozymandias is not "evil". He is the answer of the abnormal presence of Doc Manhattan. Manhattan push the world near atomic holocaust, not deliberatly. Manhattan was an abnormal threat for world peace, changing history pushing humanity to a dead end. Ozymandias respond to save the world with a method equaly enormous. Manhattan was lesser and lesser affected by moral dilemna and empathy, Ozymandias need to answer with a same attitude, cold mind, no ethic, just cold mathematics to permit survival of humanity. The same way than Spock in Star Trek : logic. Accept the lost of a few to save majority. Except Spock sacrifice himself. Not Ozymandias.

@Anarchizer 2 года назад

Well. I understood none of them. Maybe accept Rorschach's.

@thoughtgains6959 2 года назад

lol sexist

@bookofnamzays9477 2 года назад

@@thoughtgains6959 wtf that has to do with this ?

@patrikbanek5278 2 года назад

Englush good

@birddogne666 2 года назад

Nah. Ozymandias is evil af!! He stopped being a "good guy" and became the problem. "The ends justifies the means." That is where Rorschach had it right. He represents the morality, the knowledge of good and evil. The belief that good should win over evil and that the TRUTH of "How We Got Here" is as important as getting here. Ozymandias is just another arrogant idiot savant - someone who thinks he knows more than you and can tell you how to live. Failure to believe in his plan leads to your death. Yeah, he's evil.

@lilbirdmuse8938 2 года назад

Goes to prove ya always double tap (and not walk within striking distance with the "did we get him?" look).

@JamesTAdams 2 года назад

“The worlds smartest man is no more threat to me then is it’s smartest termite” Now _that_ is power. True godhood is total invincibility, not that pansy shit Doc Doom wants and Thor has.

@ashajacob8362 2 года назад

Well Beyonder has

@RandomAmbles 2 года назад

Godhood done got tricked by my boi Ozyclean over here.

@josephmanno4514 Год назад

Doom has, on more than one occasion, achieved power greater than that of Doctor Manhattan.

@armondwilliams2380 Год назад

Number one Dr Doom does not want to be a God he merely wants to save the planet Earth number two keep in mind that Thor in the comics now has the entirety of the power of cosmic

@SelfProclaimedEmperor 7 дней назад

@@RandomAmblesif Manhattan truly cared he could have just gone back in time and changed what happened. His weakness is he just doesn't care about anything. Only way to beat Dr Manhattan in any way is for him to let you win

@markjackson3531 2 года назад

When Manhattan said "What is that? Another "Ultimate Weapon?" Ozy should have said "No, it's a remote control, moron."

@aceofspadesklan8737 2 года назад

😂

@khusustoram3206 2 года назад

Poor kitty

@Eduard0030 2 года назад

😿😿😿

@pekuartz6852 2 года назад

who else randomly started watching this guy and can't stop watching.

2 года назад

Me. I eventually said to myself "why tf do I spoil myself why dont i just watch the movie?" I then watched the movie. Oh boy is it absolutely awesome...

@DefgirRZawa 2 месяца назад

@ I really recommend the comic if you liked the movie (not that I say the movie wasn't faithful, it actually was... it was only kinda rushed, and we talk about a very long movie). Although I like Ozymandias plan for the "great evil to unite humanity" even better in the movie then in the comics^^'

2 месяца назад

@@DefgirRZawa I'm not really a comic reader but thanks for the recommendation xD (Also was kinda surprised when I saw u wrote the movie was rushed haha but yeah I can imagine that actually. Maybe one day I will read the whole story)

@burtybasset 10 месяцев назад

Horzak had the last laugh he out smarted them both by keeping a simple journal

@shanechannel7066 2 года назад

This movie aged like fine wine. I remember watching in this in the theaters. I hated it! Thought it was one of the worst superhero movies ever. Now I fucking love it! It's hands down one DC's best movie ever!

@SamuelGAdamsIV Год назад

Sometimes our tastes mature and change as we get older.

@wdai03 Год назад

Oh this was no superhero movie alright.

@eternalnjem Год назад

As a kid I thought it looked cool and I didn’t understand the deeper meaning

@redskin6146 6 месяцев назад

Why didn't you like it when you first watched it?

@thenegromancer4695 6 месяцев назад

Saw it when I was WAY too young to see a r movie but man I was amazed as a ten year old knowing nothing about watchmen

@St.Maurice Год назад

"I've walked across the surface of the sun." Chilling line!

@justaguy328 Год назад

"I have walked across the surface of the sun" is a great line that really captures that Oz is dealing with a being that is different, not in degree, but in kind. Reminds me of the book of Job in the Bible, where God is questioning/humbling Job by asking him a series of questions about existence, and among them is this: “Have you ever given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place." A being with that type of power is difficult to even comprehend.

@The_Notorious_N.O.E. 4 месяца назад

Yup, that's what it reminded me of. Nothing like God humbling you with just a few words to put things in a whole new perspective.

@liamriddy358 7 месяцев назад

That TV remote is so extra

@nikolaireznov1390 7 месяцев назад

I guess the only man who kill Dr Manhattan still being Batman (In the comics)

@carlosr8680 2 года назад

Dr. Manhattan: Another ultimate weapon?.. Ozymandias: Yes, hold my beer, god...

@KidCalavera Год назад

"It didn't kill Osterman, did you really think it'd kill me?" that was raw af

@zeroderickwilliams6741 3 дня назад

Those events that are so tiny are the size of universes and galaxies. He's actually telling you how large of an entity he is himself to see an entire universes timeliness past by but to also see it slo MO and in an instant is a boost to how powerful he is over himself.

@mrmadmover 2 года назад

The writing for this movie is just 👌 fantastic every time.

@ScottMcMaster-er4xj 9 месяцев назад

The lesson here is that when you are fighting a superpowered villain with incredible speed--who has bragged about being fast enough to grab a bullet in the past--and you shoot him and he topples over, you don't stop shooting. You keep shooting him until you are out of bullets, making sure to plant as many visibly into his head as possible.

@korbendallas5318 9 месяцев назад

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if the situation ever comes up.

@ScottMcMaster-er4xj 7 месяцев назад

@@korbendallas5318 It's the same rule you use, if you ever defend yourself with your fists. When you throw a punch, you don't stop after the first and give your opponent time to throw one back. You keep throwing them, until your opponent is incapacitated and the threat ended.

@bkreativepainting7461 2 года назад

I love how everyone in the comments referring to Dr M as god and Doctor M doesn’t even call himself a god, That tells you something doesn’t it

@Dadecorban 2 года назад

the difference between being a god and being a god-like entity are semantics, and none if it depends on what that god entity says about himself. Primarily the difference is 1. worship and 2. care for souls. Since souls don’t exist....neither of those qualities actually have any impact on the nature of the being. You can add other qualities and they will be just as meaningless

@bkreativepainting7461 2 года назад

@@Dadecorban sure but you forgot the whole omniscience and near infinite awareness part, He’s basically saying humans perception of what a god is and is defined by is flawed and incorrect, and yet they ignored him and called him one anyway, this in no way at all wouldn’t have helped his isolation from humanity, and was a big part of why he went to Mars, to get away from these retards who don’t listen even when they know and acknowledge he’s smarter than them Which also confirms what he perceived

@PredatorChin 2 года назад

Sigma God Grindset

@rafaellopez-fl2hu 2 года назад

He acknowledged what he was a year ago

@markjackson3531 2 года назад

@@Dadecorban I'm not fully in either camp, because I DON'T KNOW if a "soul" or creator exists...and people (like YOU, for example) who are just so sure they know the truth are fools...PROVE to me that the soul exists, or that it does not.

@petaisajoke Год назад

Even after all that, Ozymandias plan still comes to fruition. King of kings

@divakarhosamani4798 6 месяцев назад

How

@headlight31 9 месяцев назад

Tbh this was Synder's peak. I mean, loved his DC trilogy, but this movie was just something else. Cinematography, effects. It was so good.

@korbendallas5318 9 месяцев назад

I'd say 300 was his peak.

@user-hu9vi7nk1l 5 месяцев назад

Man of Steel was his best film.

@mrnevermind 2 года назад

Dr. Manhattan’s curiosity is the only reason behind everything that exists.

@jynxvxa8342 2 года назад

Dude the fact that manhattan doesn’t just vaporise him has always bothered me

@FupaKing69 2 года назад

Jesus dude. I double tap even in video games. That lady has a lot to learn

@PsychoSocialism 2 года назад

I love this movie but the one scene they didn't include which I missed was: "John tell me, this plan, does it turn out all right? In the end?" "Oh Adrian.... Nothing ever ends."

@bananamaniac2 2 года назад

i feel like Adrian is the only other person besides Dr. Manhattan who has a "superpower". Not physical, but he is extremely smart

@josephwilliams5292 Год назад

Nah catching the bullet was superhuman speed. Literally impossible for the human body to react that fast yet we see he doesn’t start moving until after she fires

@blackblurable 8 месяцев назад

I loved how the lines between superheroes and supervillains are blurred. From hero to villain to hero again. I loved it and Dr. Manhattan and Rorschach were my favorite. Awesome characters

@OfficialAshArcher 2 месяца назад

Veidt and Manhattan are two of the best characters ever conceived. Veidt is a phenomenal villain who is perfectly fleshed out and justified, and Manhattan is the perfect example of how to write such an overpowered character, using his detachment from the human condition to give him flaws and depth.

@adriepram 2 года назад

I love both the original comics and the movie, despite some of its adaptations and constraints 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@ryanarchuleta6231 Год назад

Dr Manhattans ability to grow is an underrated ability.

@gothik33 2 года назад

That's what I love about Ozymandias' genius, he didn't simply make a plan in which he would win but he made one in which he wouldn't lose even with his own death. He put his plan above everything else, especially his own survival as he knew the other capes would go for him to get answers as he concealed the details very carefully and therefore made himself the only reliable source to get the necessary intel. He may not be "a comic book villain" to reveal his plan ahead of time so the capes could stop it, but by making himself the center of attention he used those very comic book villain codes he mocked in an ironically masterful way.

@viktorbraginski 2 года назад

I love him for being a Villain that doesn't just get beaten, but I also love the fact that even though his plan worked, its implied that it isn't gonna last cause Rorschach left his journal, and tbh once you think about his plan for awhile you realize it's batshit crazy and isn't gonna last longer than people think there's still a threat.

@SubduedRadical 2 года назад

Is this the "Xanatos Gambit"? I think that was the TVtropes name for the "cannot lose" situation.

@briangriffin5701 2 года назад

Way ahead of it's time and underrated.

@delz5863 2 года назад

saying it doesn't make it true

@briangriffin5701 2 года назад

@@delz5863 Back at ya, too.

@loser.lunatic4089 2 года назад

1:48 I barely know anything about Watchmen, but this scene alone made me love Dr. Manhattan

@Richie_Godsil 2 года назад

The graphic novel is a fascinating read and actually gets better with each revisit because of its depth and nuance. It's considered a GOAT for a reason

@djskelay5157 2 года назад

Anyone notice that they censor swear words but not dr Manhattans thing

@swaroov9236 2 года назад

That's Snyder for your l

@D0G5Coolpat11 2 года назад

@@swaroov9236 the swears aren't censored in the movie, this channel does that.

@TheArcher101 2 года назад

And Veidt's nipple suit

@yutro213 2 года назад

@@swaroov9236 Cringey ignorance.

@MrAntiKnowledge 2 года назад

If he was female they'd censor the nipples. 'MUUUURICA!

@coopernoble6139 2 месяца назад

The real triumph of Ozymandias was not destroying Dr. Manhattan, but creating Busbastis Manhasttas

@guod5165 2 года назад

“Reassembling myself was the first trick i learned”….i would have pissed myself right there if i was the bad guy.

@JetteAMT 10 месяцев назад

The ending of this clip is AMAZING! Ozymandias technically won there; even if he can’t physically harm Dr. Manhattan in any way, shape, or form, he CAN harm his reputation. By releasing that message from the President, he assured that Dr. Manhattan would be hated by the entire world, and would never be able to return. Blue God was technically both right and wrong when he said that the world’s smartest man poses no threat to him. Fantastic film.😊

@simpletora7313 6 месяцев назад

Except Dr. Manhattan doesn’t give a fuck about humanity

@scenczyk1429 2 года назад

This had a MUCH better ending than the book

@mjstwocents4568 2 года назад

What's different in the book?

@gigangreg7837 2 года назад

@@mjstwocents4568 In the book, instead of blowing up every major city and blaming it on Jon, Veidt has a massive psychic monster generically engineered and has it teleported into New York; it dies almost immediately and the physical and psychic backlash kills three million people. The world perceives this as a threat from beyond, a problem bigger than mankind, and world leaders start reaching out to each other, sowing the seeds for a future where humanity is united.

@michaelcarnevale5620 2 года назад

I agree I also prefer the movie ending.. this movie overall is pretty underrated

@ramsses5175 2 года назад

@@gigangreg7837 is the TV show based on the book 2 ???

@mjstwocents4568 2 года назад

@@gigangreg7837 Oh I see. Yeah this is better

@jadelee6555 28 дней назад

"Dan...grow up" is such an underrated and savage line lmao

@danielkelly3065 3 месяца назад

"What's that? Another ultimate weapon?" "Yes" -A suped-up TV Remote

@Rockhound6165 2 года назад

Dr. Manhattan is literally the most powerful member of the DCEU. He could remove Darkseid from existence simply by touching him. Can you imagine if he were evil?

@Mystravian 2 года назад

The DCEU is a specific set of movies, not and dc property in film

@AshrakTeriel 2 года назад

Please do not summon Darkseid-Autists, they are a plague that infest every comment section with their Trueform-bullshit.

@Psycho-th8vb 2 года назад

Until Darkseid True Forms comes out

@enricopucci822 Год назад

@@Psycho-th8vb still gonna get fucked

@MichaelDemiurgos-qr1yi Год назад

@@Psycho-th8vb still gets blinked

@friendme12345 2 года назад

Being a superhero AND a doctor is pretty impressive on a resume...

@luismehh3717 8 месяцев назад

Bro caught the bullet shell too

@crazypantz3492 2 месяца назад

Like that Dr. Manhattan refers to Osterman as a separate person. Not as himself but as something he's grown from. It's a nice touch

@tigwhite883 2 года назад

The Watchmen is such a great movie, it shows how super heros also have negative feelings and they have to deal with them.

@sushanbaretto7558 Год назад

The Boys is also a show which you may like..

@doomslayer7761 Год назад

@@sushanbaretto7558 Yeah and if you like animated superhero shows, then invincible is a great one

@johnanon658 Год назад

Superheros are not real, op

@rejoicingfakepriest201 8 месяцев назад

@@johnanon658Oh wow, who would have known 🤦‍♂️

@user-ln4gd6hx7e Год назад

All I've ever been able to think about is what a Dr Manhattanized version of that cat would be like.

@hunter4229 6 месяцев назад

Man, I really need to rewatch this as an adult. I was a kid back then and thought this was just another superhero movie and was quite confused/shocked at how dark and depressing the story was.

@AlexIsUber 8 месяцев назад

Goode was such a good cast, great work from him

@meatsweatsland 2 года назад

Dr Manhattan brought the cat back to life too. That was how Veidt was able to use the cat to track Dr Manhattan across the Multiverse in Doomsday Clock.

@michaelkeaton5394 2 года назад

Does that mean the pet will come back a cat version of doctor Manhattan??

@pvshka 2 года назад

Not if Jon himself doesn't reassemble it

@michaelkeaton5394 2 года назад

@@pvshka but when john got killed and became Dr. Manhattan there was no one to reassemble him he had to learn, so will the cat learn that too??

@mertcoskun7382 2 года назад

@@michaelkeaton5394 Jon was able to reassemble himself specifically because he was the son of a watch/clock maker.

@KoOkiEzRoCkz 2 года назад

Jon is the exception. He had the will and understanding of how to piece himself back together. Its implied in the comics i think, that Russia tried to mimic the experiment, but none of their test subjects came back because they didnt know how to

@fenrisfastlane1 2 года назад

If so, Mr Cathattan?

@brandon9638 7 месяцев назад

This guy rebooted the DCEU...

@bishnooktawak 27 дней назад

Uh... It just hit me that Dr. Manhattan is probably a pretty accurate representation of what an SGI would be like.

@UltraAwesomeSauce12 2 года назад

For being fully omniscient, Dr. Manhattan certainly doesn’t act like it. Goes to show how difficult it is to represent a fully omniscient being within our limited mindset.

@ryutenmen 2 года назад

If our puny minds cannot represent/understand an omniscient being, how can you say that Dr. Manhattan doesnt act like a omniscient being? Are you an omniscient being and not having a puny mind? Maybe thats how an omniscient being actually behave and its our puny minds who imagine that an omniscient being should behave full of himself, superior, etc, simply because by definition we - the puny minds, lack all those traits of an omniscient being.

@UltraAwesomeSauce12 2 года назад

@@ryutenmen you have a point. I suppose relative to other omniscient beings, he doesn’t act as such

@thatoneguy119 2 года назад

Doesn't Manhattan specifically say he's *not* omniscient, though, when talking to Laurie on Mars?

@UltraAwesomeSauce12 2 года назад

@@thatoneguy119 not sure. I was under the impression that he had full knowledge of past present and future, and even understanding of the multiverse too. Maybe not true omniscience but pretty close