Watchmen: Rorschach's death 

Definitely better then Christian bale’s Batman’s voice

@@jessedellross3245 i know right

Agreed 💯

Well, it’s definitely better than Christian Bale’s. But I actually really like Ben Affleck’s version.

Well, it’s definitely better than Christian Bale’s. But I actually really like Ben Affleck’s version.

I don't think he wants to be mankind's god.

@@Willys-Wagon No one who wants to be a god is worthy of becoming one

It was all in the '85 graphic novel.

He died well

Never compromise, even in the face of Armageddon

@@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire He died with his integrity and honor. Far better than his friends who accepted Ozymandias' actions.

@@danielhaire6677 while I condemn them I can however understand why they would seek to make peace with the situation for the sake of the greater good

Definitely a very well done and memorable scene!

I always loved, too, how he chooses to die as Walter Kovacs, rather than Rorschach.

Rorschach wanted to die. And Rorschach wanted Dr. Manhattan to be the kind of person who would kill him. Because that is what, in Rorschach's demented mind, a hero is: a morally uncompromising killer who will do anything, no matter how cruel or heartless, if he believes it is necessary in the service of what he believes is good. And despite another commenter's opinion, he doesn't die as Walter Kovacs. As Rorschach himself says, Kovacs died in the shed with the little girl. Only Rorschach emerged from that shed, not Kovacs.

@@woodrobin I agree with literally everything you said other than "Rorschach wanted to die". No he didn't, he wanted to expose everything. He merely thought it better and more honorable to die than to accept Ozymandius' plot. And he didn't believe "a hero is an uncompromising killer", he didn't even believe in the concept of a hero; he saw the world in black and white, and himself as a garbage man willing to do what it takes. But I guess art and literature is up to interpretation, so if that's what you took away from the character and his arc, who am I to tell you you're wrong? Watchmen is one of the greatest graphic novels ever, and I'm glad that its characters and messages create discourse to this day.

LMAO and all true

dont forget his service in the military before becoming Nite owl (midway)

Also became an Atlantean and fought Aquaman.

@@christopherregan1654 I didnt even know that was him holy shit

Lol

Adrian was a more stupid idealist than Rorschach lol. Adrian's peppy little plan would have lasted 5yrs tops, and humanity would have been back to square 0. The human capacity for resilienceand rhats resilience of and for everything was lost on him lol.

@@emmanueloluga9770 well that is 5 years of hope right, because that is all humanity is got hope.

@@emmanueloluga9770 humanity will destroy itself anyway . The only way and that way won't work either is to install a global dictator and hope that he stays benevolent

@@wei270 Yes but then what ? As if humanity would have nuked each other. I don’t think they would. Adrian did that to serve his ego nothing more. Idealizing mankind would have been to trust mankind that it would come together through peace not war. Adrian had the resources to save mankind instead he chose to destroy or mutilate it for the guise of sacrificing millions to save billions. His worshiping of Alexander the Great was the problem. He should have idolized Buddha or Jesus. Using his brain and resources to help heal humanity.

@@Legendaryburrito123 you are operationing under the assumption that humanity can be healed. that is an assumption you choose to make, other may not do the same.

Their breakup was mutual He couldn't give her what she wanted.. .."a big hunka wood"

"Tachions are no substitute for a nice hunk of wood.

Cheat*

She knows he isn't interested in "petty" mortals anymore 😂👍🏾

He's not a human. He has no felling what so ever. And he didn't react how humans do when there relationship is ending. He even don't care about humans at this point that's why Rorschach said " Suddenly you discover humanity." " Convenient"

It's what he gets for being such a wimp.

😭😭

>Kill yo friend >Steal yo girl >Leave

And worst for Night owl he can’t do anything to Dr manatthan

@@andrewternet8370 yes that tends to happen with hoes.

The simple wave of his hand and he exploded was oddly scary.

I think Dr Manhattan respected Rorschach, there was a small part of him that didn't want to do what he knew he had to do...

@@johncook9392 true, it does seem like he had a semblance of regret at the thought of what he was about to do, that’s probably a more likely explanation as well

Unless I'm mistaken, Doomsday Clock is a direct sequel to this and that perfect utopia didn't last long either, Ozymandias lived long enough to see it all fall apart and Dr. Manhattan returned with a better solution after observing another, more powerful hero.

@@noobie5324 Watchmen is Canon to DC, DC is not Canon to Watchmen. Both are separate variants of the same Universe, that said yeah Rorschach's last action of rebellion completely shredded Ozzy's new World Structure. The Comedian was right, it's all a big joke.

@@maylabrown4584 i am pretty stupid so can you explain how x is canon to y but not the other way around please

@@ryanhollstein4164 There are two different Universes for Watchmen. There is the Prime Universe where all the events in the Original Watchmen Universe take place and then the DC Variant of the Watchmen Universe where Doctor Manhattan bridged the Watchmen Universe with the DC Main Universe/Earth-1. Think of it like two paintings, both paintings are the same, with Painting #1 staying the same with no changes. But Painting #2 has been changed, recolored and added upon becoming a new Painting.

@@maylabrown4584 thanks for the explaining it in a simple enough way for me to understand

Dr. Manhattan was stupid tho, as everything they did would eventually be in vain after 5 yes tops. Humans don’t really learn from the past lol. A single human can learn from the past, but humans as a group have a harder time doing that for some reason

Doesn't matter because he dropped his journal off to the paper. He had a backup plan in case and it was to imply it was exposed during the ending and just not shown. Roshack could have just walked away but he was too honoree to let things go.

@@emmanueloluga9770 yeah the film turned dr. Manhattan into an idiot. Shit film that managed to ruin the most amazing comic book story I’ve ever read. I’ll always despise Snyder for this movie. Just incompetence at the highest level

@@benjy117 he ruined everything with that journal what a prick.

Genuinely one of the changes they made for the film that I liked. That gutteral scream man... you don't see that in modern comic movies nor Oscar nominated movies. It was raw, I love this scene.

He a had a good script/material

It aged perfectly. When it came out nobody liked it but now it stands out among hero movies

Too bad it got to his head and tried to make Superman in this same way. This aesthetic would have worked well for Batman, but Superman? Completely dropped the ball there.

@@mharouny1 no one gave him any more good scripts to make. sad.

@@mar10ssj1 gtfo. Best Superman ever made. Your opinion is like moldy cheese.

No he became ghost hunter hahaha

No wonder he looked so familiar lol

No he married and became an exorcist

The Deep

bc rorschach was a jerk in the comics

@@hayate503 Rorshach was the exact same in the movie as he was in the comics. The difference was night and day. There are other ways to say You didn't read it.

@@lilkingg82 lmao they didn't show the rorschach that didn't care about the rape attempt of the comedian bc. she was a 'whore'

@@lilkingg82 i read the comic and both interpretations are different. Especially regarding how Rorschach is a lovable badass in this movie, and a scumbag in the comic. But both have their core drive. I still prefer movie rorschach though, because he’s a unique character and almost a hero. I even dressed up as him once.

@@80skidwannabe28 Rorshach is literally about the same. The difference is night and day. Only real difference is some of the lines and how they were said.

Batman said this to owlman

Rorschach is the Question taken to his ultimate conclusion

no the fuck they wouldnt lmao. rorschach is a murderer for his own self indulgence and he degusies it as heroism. that his whole entire character.

@@devinherring5352 ......

@@JF_productions5 you can....... me all you want its the truth

I recall reading somewhere that Alan Moore was horrified to learn that people **liked** Rorschach. That Moore made him to be, basically, an uncompromising fascist that people were supposed to cheer when he was murdered. Allegedly he expressed great disdain for those readers who actually identified with Rorschach saying, in effect, I can't control how people are supposed to act - meaning - the audience was supposed to loathe Rorschach, not see themselves in him; which to me just reinforces the trope of the political Right seeing the political Left as well-intentioned but misguided, while the Left sees the Right as pure evil. It's clear that's how Moore viewed Rorschach.

@@dhunter1133 yeah, he was supposed to be a satire of Steve Dtiko's Mr. A and the Question. It's funny, because Alan also did V for Vendetta, where an anarchist psycho brutally tortures a 16 year old girl the same way the SS guards used to torture people in Block 11 at Auschwitz, to show her the truth or something like that. I personally don't think torturing children is very heroic, but that's just me. Maybe I'm just a fascist apologist or whatever. I'm not one to think that Rorschach is without flaw, but at least he has some humanity, much more than I can say of Dr. Manhattan. The guy walks around showing his dick to everyone and doesn't seem to mind how wierd or uncomfortable that is, he truly has no empathy.

​@@dhunter1133way too many people on the political right want to kill people on the political left for me to buy that "well intentioned" shit. Both sides hate each other, the radicals especially so, don't try to dress it up or make some smoke and mirror shit

That's what's so amazing about this scene. It is the "immovable object vs unstoppable force" on film. They are both dead set in their convictions..

I dont think he stood for whats right, cause he wanted to let humanity destroy itself before he'd drop his ideals

@@vasvas8914 I think his argument is if humanity can only survive with a lie, than it is not worth saving. Adrian robbed humanity of its chance to prove it was worthy of its existence. Again that is all his perspective imo. In my opinion you cant improve when your dead, stopping armageddon was the only rational choice Adrian had if he was truly certain this was the only way.

​@@theyux1 yeah, thats just makes every act he did pointless - what is the reason to kill murderers and rapists if you're gonna let all their potential victims die anyway because you're not comfortable with a lie? He was a stubborn idealist who put his principles above survival of his species, there's nothing heroic about that. Its very selfish actually, unlike what Adrian did. My opinion

@@vasvas8914 again i am just arguing his case which I dont agree with. But before kill the random bad guys in his eyes was killing the random outliers that gave humanity a bad reputation. Not all of humanity was evil, far to much was. However if humanity wipes itself out that is a different story. And worse Adrian did not even give humanity the chance to prove it was worthy of surviving. Rorschach was an absolutist black and white morality. If humanity cant live with the truth. Then it does not deserve to live. Again I dont agree. Humanity cant improve if its dead. Not that I agree with Adrian. He assumed humanity could not be saved without wiping out entire cities which is easily debatable. Especially given he is literally the smartest person in the world and he could have attempted to get Manhattan on board with a myriad of solutions.

It is not brown batman it is nite owl

Hahahahaha that's soooo true! I'm glad I'm not the first one to think that.

NiteOwl does a spin off where he's an exorcist.

@@O1OO1O1 That sounds like a poorly written "joke" from the Watchmen HBO series. Is that something "God" told you when you were going to be sent to hell? That entire "joke" thing was a textbook definition of "Lazy Writing" from unskilled people. I can see why that series got only one season, along with all the "F" words that had no place in a TV show about superheroes.

@@michaelzoran good self-own

@@O1OO1O1 wth was that guy on

@@banjabalst4973 probably the American education system

I think it's more because Rorschach had a point- Dr Manhattan could have prevented this had he cared from the start.

And yet at the end he had to orchestrate the deaths of millions. So much for being a hero.

@@esyphillis101 It's just the trolley problem in a superhero movie form. If you really believe that there's no other way to save the Earth's people, and you save more people than you kill, then he did the heroic thing.

Catching a bullet and it not penetrating his hand is not something he learned working out.

Simple he relaxes his muscle and joint to absorb 80% of the damage. And he do that a the exact timing .Everyone know that bro .

@@nicolasmarand108 bro you're so smart

@@nicolasmarand108 no… lol

@@MontyQueues If you're trying to say he's not smart I'ma sit on you

You watch too much baki

It's all a stupid joke.

I mean he would be jealous, we got a lot of problems but compared to the watchmens universe its night and day. Anyone who thinks things have never been this bad needs to open a history book and just randomly flip to a page.

The Comedian would absolutely, positively adore Donald Trump.

We could have used him during some of that rioting and looting. THIS JUST IN, THE COMEDIAN HAS INCINERATED A GROUP OF HOODLUMS LOOTING PLAYSTATIONS AT TARGET

WTF HOW DID I FIND YOU HERE HAHAHAHAHAHA

@@Quakeh idk who you are but that fortnite compilation goes hard brother

@@Juixe i chatted on ur twitch stream like 2 yrs ago where u told me that u worked at a cinema and shit where u played osu and mc and since then followed u on twitter

who the hell is steve jobs

@@Vapor817 L I G M A B A L L S

I was looking for this comment

As demon man said they'll have to glue you back together in hell. I'm sure we'll figure it out.

@@Duckwithblueandredhat demon man lol

@@diegobrando2750 I was really hoping no one would notice as I was too lazy to edit it

@@Duckwithblueandredhat 'Twas funny at the very least :)

i mean, he kinda was, he wanted to revert humanity back to a state of wars that could and eventually would wipe out ALL of humanity, all because he couldn't live with a lie, and called himself a hero

@@San-lh8us Rorschach is compelling specifically because he lives a contradiction. Just like Ozymandias, he is selfish and self-righteous but also technically correct from a particular perspective; they're both naive in perfectly opposite ways. Only Dr.Manhattan can see all of the perspectives but when faced with that much freedom he simply shuts down. Only one character was truly correct in the end, and it was The Comedian. Any idiot can make a simple thing complicated; for all of his craftiness and wit, Ozmandias was even more out of touch than Manhattan.

@@San-lh8us Rorschach was morally in the right here though. He couldn't be party, even in a passive, accessory after the fact sense, to an act of evil such as the murder of several million innocent people. Also, he had a sort of radical libertarian philosophy, which would make him naturally distrustful of top-down solutions imposed by powerful elites -- and with good reason actually; central planners who want to manage whole societies have a uniformly bad record. Even the most brilliant human beings can't predict and manage the actions of millions of individuals. One of the things I actually liked about the "sequel" DC wrote to this, "Doomsday Clock," was the scene when Ozymandias comes to the prime DC universe, and he finds Lex Luthor (he's searching for him and Bruce Wayne, because he's identified them as this earth's two smartest human beings), and Luthor says "Let's see if I'm understanding you correctly. You... created an 'alien invader' that murdered three million people to unite the world. And you're _surprised_ that it hasn't stayed united? If you're the smartest man on your planet, I'd hate to meet the dumbest." If something like this happened in reality, I'd share Rorschach's skepticism that it could actually work, long-term, and I'd definitely share his copinion that it was crime against humanity.

And sugar

More than that... He killed an innocent to make the plan work, Ozzie killed many to make the plan work. One man vs a city, but that's a question of numbers. Now he's crossed that threshold he has become someone who will do what Ozzie did and for the same reasons. The lie becomes a truth.

@@matthewspencer2094 ozzie killed many "innocent" to make the plan work. We're saying the same thing

He accepted himself as an accomplice

"yo thanks for helping to clear my name mr.rorschach, i think you and i might have a bright futrue together, and you too owl man dont think i forgot about you, you two are my bestest buds" *flash forward to very bright world in a yellow tint of the three eating ice cream, going to the park, using the swing ect, ozy can be seen on tvs in the background to be the real villain humanity unites to stop, peace and truth and justice and freindship gets brought it everyone*

He left and went to the dc universe.

@@znspyder and make superman helpless

@@znspyder Isn't this still the DC universe?

@@lordofthesithvader9430 lemme rephrase, The Main DC universe.

@@znspyder Oh okay

It's symbolism, perhaps you didn't notice the shape of the splash of blood......

yeah the splash is like a snow angel we make while playing in snow

Hey, I hope you are okay. I don't know what you are going through, but maybe professional help is the answer, or talking to a trusted friend about what you are going through. People care about you, even if it may not feel like it at times. Be safe, and take care.

Then there is something wrong with you. Even the creator himself thinks that there’s something wrong with people who look up to Rorschach

Who is Steve jobs?

@@Prinygod ligma balls

@@jc13sec buueeeummmmmmmmmmmmm

@@aarons0z992 Dan Dreiberg: NOOOOEUUUUUGH!

More humane this way, he died instantly, if his heart just stopped he'd be in pain until his brain died of oxygen deprivation

Antimatter has it correct, but adding... They'll need to erase his body. Manhattan most assuredly killed him on a molecular level, it was likely the most painless death in history. He could literally beat any nerve action, go right into his brain and flip all the right switches. He has the benefit for foresight as well, the tachyons won't interfere this time, meaning he can see the end result of his actions and recursively create a better more merciful kill. Likely dismembering him in this way will make clean up easier, but he might not have had the heart to obliterate him further... or wanted to leave something for Veidt to actually have to deal with. There may not even be cells on that ground, simply red water and clumps of tissue that don't have any cells left. He could've gone into his system and caused his entire body to experience euphoria for a millisecond while it tore itself apart. You needn't worry. It looks horrific to us, but to Rorshach... likely better than anything he'd had in a long time. We should all be so lucky to have a literal god take us apart instead of just nature. Then again there's not much difference - human nature took him apart all the same, just in a better way. I'm just talking the logistics of his death. The reason is awful.