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Waterproofing Curbless Shower --- New Flo FX Membrane!!! 

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Tile showers that have a curbless or barrier free entrance need to have the waterproofing extended out 12" past the threahold of the shower. In my opinion, sheet membrane is better than liquid applied membrane in shower pans for a three reasons:
1.) You do not need to wait for the mortar bed to dry before applying. It can take up to a week to for a mortar bed to fully dry before you can apply liquid membrane.
2.) You do not need to worry about correct rate of application or thickness of sheet membranes.
3.) You can tile over them immediatley and don't need to wait for the 2 coats of liquid to dry.
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@michaelkiley5658
@michaelkiley5658 4 месяца назад
Your mom is definitely proud. Keep up the good work, Isaac.
@tonycatalano4338
@tonycatalano4338 4 месяца назад
This video couldn’t have come at a better time. Im installing my first curbless shower using the hydro ban system and about to waterproof the floor. I have taken much inspiration and knowledge from your channel. Many thanks if you see this comment
@anrohtsamaniego4554
@anrohtsamaniego4554 3 месяца назад
You are that kind of person that got the natural talent to communicate Thanks you I'm admire you
@jmcfadden3712
@jmcfadden3712 4 месяца назад
She is watching you! God bless you, brother.!
@jaysmoke3132
@jaysmoke3132 4 месяца назад
My man your videos rock, thank you so much for doing them and for sharing them. It's really appreciated.
@daveclark2458
@daveclark2458 4 месяца назад
The vapor drive part is something commonly overlooked,glad you touched on it,keep rollin brotha 👊🏼
@tofuroshi
@tofuroshi 4 месяца назад
Best to waterproof the entire bathroom floor for curbless showers in my opinion (looks like the crack isolation in this video also serves that function). This will protect the floor in case of water wicking vertically through the thinset/grout and offers a little insurance if the drain backs up since there is no barrier to keep the water in the shower.
@EtreTocsin
@EtreTocsin 4 месяца назад
But the sheets are 78 inches wide. So do you tape / band the joints?
@tofuroshi
@tofuroshi 4 месяца назад
@@EtreTocsin you can transition to a roll on membrane or use Ditra with banding to waterproof the room
@MakesCache
@MakesCache Месяц назад
I had a lady who left a wash cloth on the drain for what she claimed was a few mins but sent water all over the bathroom. It definitely can happen lol.
@kenmoore800
@kenmoore800 4 месяца назад
I watched tons of your videos before I did my bathroom it came out great,3x6 curbless shower a soaking tub with a schluter heated floor in the entire bath plus the shower and bench after watching your videos I used the Flo-fx drain and all schluter waterproofing and all set and because I’m a beginner I hit all the exposed thin set with Hydroban THANKS for all your knowledge.
@HamiltonTileGA
@HamiltonTileGA 4 месяца назад
TileCoach, we're building a shower just like this right now. Two actually, but only one is curbless. We used white 8+9 changes it up a little bit. When you waterproof with 8+9, you gotta wait 3 days to waterproof for the pan to dry, they say. But that blue flo fx membrane and the branding they do on it, is slick. I mean, prep is fun. Try to get this stuff as tight and precision as possible then tiling is fun and turns out better.
@tofuroshi
@tofuroshi 4 месяца назад
Classic red D-2001 bucket chillin in the background
@FriedSpamAndChips
@FriedSpamAndChips 4 месяца назад
Sorry for your loss, mate. It never gets easier does it.
@mankatovalleyseed8557
@mankatovalleyseed8557 2 месяца назад
Thank you for all the work and effort you put into your videos, tests, and tips. You are make me and the industry better! You have also inspired me to start doing my own testing and improve my efficiency. I have a question regular 😮installing waterproof membrane instalation and lapping. It seems to me it would make more sense to install the membrane on the shower floor first, then do the linear corner strips onto the floor, followed by the corner prices and finally, the shower walls. If the wall membranes were installed last, the water shed would be better. It always bothers me that the overlap invites water in if the linear strips and corners are installed last. Am I overly worried about this? Is the bond and seal of the membrane on membrane overlap so good, this is a non-issue? My other question on membrane is; when installing them on shower walls, can I use the NoFlo large sheet, start at one corner, and work the sheet into the corner without cutting it and continue on to the other walls without cutting the corners? Just thought it would prevent a lot of potential failure points and eliminate vertical corner strips. Am I missing something?
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib Месяц назад
Looks like a lot of work, I'll stick to tile redi pans and goboard. Both of which are readily available.
@Dillonmac96
@Dillonmac96 4 месяца назад
What other trade that has so much to do with finished looks and luxury has so many bad jobs outt there? Ur right we should all strive to change that. We have to EVEN out the number of good tile installers. Prevent whoever we can from failing.
@iFortold
@iFortold 4 месяца назад
Do you ship to Canada? Unfortunately, we do not have awesome products like FLOW fx here. The best we got is Schluter, however, I don't really trust them much anymore after following your channel for a few years. Hope we can get these products out here asap!
@nailbndr9869
@nailbndr9869 4 месяца назад
that extra wide width is a great option 👍
@donparr
@donparr 3 месяца назад
New subscriber. I’m learning a lot. Thanks for the video!
@joedime1
@joedime1 3 месяца назад
Another great video Isaac. I've watched a lot of your videos and notice you use a lot of different products. Is it because of different styles of showers, or are you just always testing new products that you think are the best? As of now, what system would you recommend to a DIYer with some tile experience to use for a walk in shower? You mentioned in this video how the tile redi system is good for DIYers, but I'm wondering why you wouldn't always use that? Is it a price difference for your clients? Thanks for the great and helpful videos!
@1bottlefed
@1bottlefed 4 месяца назад
Did I miss the brand of thinset mortar? I am guessing its Versabond by Custom?
@ajducey1868
@ajducey1868 Месяц назад
What was the brand of highly modified thinset you were using?
@eltonnoway7864
@eltonnoway7864 3 месяца назад
It would have been nice if Issac specifically identified the thinset he's using in this video or at least mentioned it in the information section instead of just saying "This is my preferred thinset" 04:20. In one of his replies below he simply states: "Mapei Keraflex Super, Laticrete 254, Customs Flex Bond all would be good choices" (none of which identify what he's using in this video). That said, due to the the color and creamy consistency it looks like Laticrete Multimax Lite! And... in one of his earlier videos titled: "Installing a FloFX Drain in a SCHLUTER KERDI FOAM PAN!!! - He states: "I mixed up Multimax Lite thinset, Multimax Lite has no sand in it, it's highly modified. And this Latecrete Multimax Lite is what I use for all my of my sheet membrane installations and for putting down foam trays when I use them".
@mankatovalleyseed8557
@mankatovalleyseed8557 2 месяца назад
I belive he's using Laticrete MultiMax Lite. He's recommend it in other videos for it's insane amount of polymers stating that impedes water penetration. I have never used that product because it's not available in my town. I ended up order it directly from Laticrete on Amazon. I'm going to do some test with it and some NoFlo membrane and see how I like it. It's super spendy, so I hope it's good. I paid $155 for 2 bags delivered.
@adamnorthville5636
@adamnorthville5636 4 месяца назад
Kirk for the win! Please pass on the good luck!
@masonpetrov2716
@masonpetrov2716 4 месяца назад
What thinset are you using to put down the sheet membrane? You talked about it but I didn't catch the name.
@bsmbB
@bsmbB 4 месяца назад
Make a guidline on the outside edge with a center mark and trowel the thinset then you just have to line up the outside edge and the mark and drop the sheet *edit This way you can run the membrane up the wall easier also Yes im still watching atm lol
@fuegoman45
@fuegoman45 4 месяца назад
Great stuff as always brother. Thank you 🙏
@michaelhartman851
@michaelhartman851 3 месяца назад
In my opinion the waterproofing should be throughout the bathroom if it's curbless, the big problem that no contractors explain to customers is when you have a toilet backup it's going to flood the lowest points first, so the curbless shower makes a guaranteed flood any time the drain backs up even a little bit, which I've found almost none of my customers snake their drains preventatively they wait till the flood to fix the problem, pretty stupid if you ask me...
@donniebrown4368
@donniebrown4368 9 дней назад
Hello I'm Donnie and I really appreciate your video's. I have question about curbless showers. Do you have to have fall in the whole bathroom or just the shower itself? Thanks again Donnie
@eltonnoway7864
@eltonnoway7864 17 часов назад
You would only need to concern yourself with "fall or slope" of the whole bathroom if you were building a "wet room" ...i.e., where the entire bathroom floor area is designed to be flooded with water or get wet. For example having a shower with no doors, walls or curtains and maybe a free standing soaker tub, and a drain located in the center of the room to catch all errant water so it will drain away. If your shower is its own area, contained with walls, partitions, doors etc, then you only have to address the fall or slope of the shower floor to insure it has adequate draining. In regards to a "curbless shower", as Isaac mentions in the comments: "Tile showers that have a curbless entrance need to have the waterproofing extended out 12" past the threshold of the shower." NET: The "sloped area" of your shower should start 1 foot outside the main shower floor area. Other than that the rest of your floor would be level and flat.
@cenzo1962
@cenzo1962 3 месяца назад
Nice work brother!!
@vinhgolf
@vinhgolf Месяц назад
may i ask who makes the thinset that you recommended here? thanks. great video and love your work.
@that_guy_right_there_2945
@that_guy_right_there_2945 Месяц назад
Wondering the same thing.
@chipmhandle
@chipmhandle 16 дней назад
He didn’t name it was surprised!
@eltonnoway7864
@eltonnoway7864 17 часов назад
Although not mentioned in this video, Isaac frequently mention in other videos his preferred thinset for this type of application is to use LATICRETE MULTIMAX LITE because it has a smooth creamy texture with no sand making it easy to spread and work with.
@dovohofficial
@dovohofficial 3 месяца назад
Amazing work!
@craiglm4972
@craiglm4972 4 месяца назад
You didn't state the thinset details. I'm big on prolite from custom for that work.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 месяца назад
Mapei Keraflex Super, Laticrete 254, customs flex bond all would be good choices
@ct9040
@ct9040 4 месяца назад
​@@TileCoach How about Mapei large format floor and wall tile mortar?
@AndreyK415
@AndreyK415 Месяц назад
Is NoFlo rated for Steam Showers? There's basically no technical information or install instructions on their website.
@tedmorris2122
@tedmorris2122 4 месяца назад
Great video! What wall board did you use and the black joint liquid membrane?
@RhondaPerdew
@RhondaPerdew 4 месяца назад
after putting down your deck mud and how do you work without disturbing the sand, is that what your panels were for over the cardboard?
@jt5747
@jt5747 4 месяца назад
What does the lifetime warranty actually cover?
@johnwhite2576
@johnwhite2576 4 месяца назад
Word-has anyone actually recovered on warranties from any of them-Schleuter,laticrete, etc.
@gallardo360
@gallardo360 4 месяца назад
means nothing. try and get a warranty and get the runaround 😂
@pigseye2
@pigseye2 4 месяца назад
Could you please tell us more about the crack isolation? What is the brand? Is it just a liquid or is it a liquid and a membrane? Thank you!
@McDIY
@McDIY 4 месяца назад
How do you stop wicking from the shower tile to the rest of the floor tile? Hope I am describing the question adequately.
@rugerdogg5316
@rugerdogg5316 3 месяца назад
I purchased densshield for my shower walls and ceiling . Should I tape and waterproof each seam and screw or will thinset over these areas be sufficient?
@wolverinegnr
@wolverinegnr 4 месяца назад
What thinset did you use?
@ct9040
@ct9040 4 месяца назад
Wouldn't sheet membrane first then bands and corners running on top of it be a better system? You mentioned it briefly. It might be easier ( nicer to your floor) if you do the corners and bands first, but that system seems like it could fail with all the gravity feed water running down the walls. Any thoughts??
@vids595
@vids595 3 месяца назад
The correct term is "linear foot." This term is used to measure length in a straight line. For example, if you are measuring the length of a piece of lumber, you would measure it in linear feet. "Lineal" is a term typically used in genealogical contexts to refer to direct descent or ancestry, such as in "lineal descendants." Therefore, when measuring length, "linear foot" is the appropriate term to use.
@markpescatrice9783
@markpescatrice9783 23 дня назад
Actually, both terms are correct and interchangeable, at least here in the US.
@TheBillyBlack
@TheBillyBlack 4 месяца назад
What do you use on irregular angle corners that aren’t 90’s?
@FixthisCD
@FixthisCD 4 месяца назад
This highly modified thin-set fall under A118.15? Improved Modified?
@Sal_4289
@Sal_4289 27 дней назад
Did he ever name it??
@brianwatson4647
@brianwatson4647 3 месяца назад
You said that you’re using a “highly modified “ thin set that doesn’t allow moisture to penetrate but you don’t use it to set tile. Why not?
@bluearcherx
@bluearcherx 4 месяца назад
I don't think you ever called out the thin set make and model? Maybe I missed it
@nailbndr9869
@nailbndr9869 4 месяца назад
pretty sure it's multimax lite, he has been using it in the past and from what I saw, it had the same consistency as the multimax... it's really creamy and super sticky
@dsulli7383
@dsulli7383 3 месяца назад
Sierra College!? I played golf for them 07-08
@anthonycolosimo2824
@anthonycolosimo2824 4 месяца назад
I still like the bruce jenner method of installing pan membranes better. IYKYK
@randyperkins4188
@randyperkins4188 4 месяца назад
The tuck
@justinkulow7872
@justinkulow7872 4 месяца назад
Are you running the wp membrane around the room perimiter?? It doesn't take much for water to roll to the edge if the room....
@thetmyers3881
@thetmyers3881 2 месяца назад
Isaac , do you put the membrane over the foam shower pans , or can you ?
@scorpio6587
@scorpio6587 4 месяца назад
We love you, too.
@wolverinegnr
@wolverinegnr 3 месяца назад
Do you do anything to the walls past the band? Thanks
@moroccobama
@moroccobama 3 месяца назад
Hey I wanted to sign up for your $900 float class. Are you no longer doing that??
@RonB84
@RonB84 3 месяца назад
@tilecoach can you tile over tile.. I'm extremely concerned.. I don't have the money to hire another contractor to redo the shower.. I just hired a contractor and its costing me 12k to convert the tub into a shower and they used kerdi board and then "water proofed" it... the mosaic tiles on it look like a roller coaster and they are saying the mortar will fix it.. but I know its not pitched properly. 1 foot around the drain looks like a huge valley to where the drain is, but the drain is actually like 1/4 to 1/3 inch higher than the tiles.. and the floor mosaic tiles by the walls look like they are on angles.. They say I'm not a contractor and don't know what I'm talking about.. just to trust them which I don't.. I know they don't have 95% coverage behind the shower tile as I'm able to see behind it as well.. Not sure what to do.. I contacted another contractor who stated it would be 10-20k to redo the job. I wasn't sure if I could cover their floor tile and tile myself with a proper pitch to fix it? I have no idea what to do and a 10-15k job is now going to cost like 30k if I have to a pay a second contractor to redo the work of the first one who still hasn't finished.
@VladDarin
@VladDarin 4 месяца назад
Why can't you use an extra 4 inches of the floor membrane to put on the wall instead of the band?
@michaelkiley5658
@michaelkiley5658 4 месяца назад
He answered that at 7:30
@VladDarin
@VladDarin 4 месяца назад
My bad 🤭 thank you!
@turboflush
@turboflush 3 месяца назад
curious about the flood test on this? how?
@deeeeeeps
@deeeeeeps 4 месяца назад
How do you finish that corner without cornerbead on?
@stevemullen8457
@stevemullen8457 4 месяца назад
How do you water test a curbless shower?
@eltonnoway7864
@eltonnoway7864 3 месяца назад
By design, if the slope is correct (2% or 1/4" per foot) water will migrate to the drain. In a curbless with the drain plugged you simply fill the shower pan up to the point where it would be just short of overflowing into the bathroom. Granted, with a curbless system the water level might not be 2 or 3 inches deep like it might be in a curbed shower but that's not an issue. After filling the pan area, just measure the depth of the water over the drain at the start of your flood test and check it again in 24 hours. e.g. At start of testing, if you start measure 3/4" of water over the drain... and still have 3/4" of water 24 hours later... you're golden.
@jefffarago8282
@jefffarago8282 3 месяца назад
I thought that non-mod thinset is used between 2 impervious layers because the mod thinset won't get enough air to dry/cure. Whereas the non-mod thinset uses the trapped moisture to cure. But you are using the mod-thinset to do the corners and the banding which is membrane on membrane??? Thanks
@MakesCache
@MakesCache Месяц назад
The opposite, only use non modified if it's open to air. Like laying the tiles onto a water proof membrane. modified dries through chemical cure.
@EtreTocsin
@EtreTocsin 4 месяца назад
Wouldn’t it be better to add the banding then the corner pieces on top of the banding?
@MakesCache
@MakesCache Месяц назад
I don't think they specify, only that you have 2" overlap or the like.
@garrett8073
@garrett8073 4 месяца назад
You used to promote Ardex 8 & 9 quite a lot for shower waterproofing, so I've used it on my pans and bottom 6"-8" of my shower walls. You don't seem to mention it anymore, so was there a problem you ran into? I'm not a fan or RedGuard, and Mapeis Aqua Defense comes apart with thinset on top. Please advise. Thank you.
@TileCoach
@TileCoach 4 месяца назад
8+9 is great stuff!
@garrett8073
@garrett8073 4 месяца назад
@@TileCoach Thank you, Isaac
@sevendust07660
@sevendust07660 4 месяца назад
Can I use these banding and corners with Schluter shower pans instead of getting ripped off by Schluter?
@eltonnoway7864
@eltonnoway7864 3 месяца назад
Yep! Not a problem. Mixing and matching membrane and banding, corners etc. is done all the time... no big deal frequently. The only problem or issue would be if you try to file a warranty claim down the road. All of these companies will deny a claim if they find evidence you married, mixed or matched their product with another brand.
@MakesCache
@MakesCache Месяц назад
Yea I use go board walls often if I can't get schulter and go board screws on everything because the schulter screws suck.
@djokicmetamora
@djokicmetamora Месяц назад
S ubbed and liked, Thanks
@MTips18
@MTips18 2 месяца назад
Its pretty much the same as schulter.
@JeremySpidle
@JeremySpidle 4 месяца назад
Go kirk!
@doubledarefan
@doubledarefan 4 месяца назад
9:45 Please, do not ever let your tail come out.
@thirtytwoforty
@thirtytwoforty Месяц назад
Linear* foot ... lineal is for ancestry
@RawTakes
@RawTakes 4 месяца назад
Im surprised you haven't came out with your own products yet Isaac. You can have a manufacturer OEM all of that stuff for you and keep the money in your pocket. Just sayin! You work too hard not to havw your own brand. Why give all your money away to the companies that have 1500% markups? Lol
@mikedelmonte255
@mikedelmonte255 4 месяца назад
To each their own ! Pretty sure if he would like to have his own product he would done it. He’s an artist, a tile / shower installer and that’s what he love. I don’t see why going in a business already full of different good options and have less time to do what you love.. He probably have good discount for showing up on his channel too! Just my 2 cents
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN 4 месяца назад
RU-vidrs making their own products usually results in terrible products.
@RawTakes
@RawTakes 4 месяца назад
@@mikedelmonte255 100% to each their own. You would absolutely make a ton more if you had OEM make your product. I won't share what i fully know, but Im in business to make money and one day not have to set tile either...can only make so much just installing.
@RawTakes
@RawTakes 4 месяца назад
@@MAGAMAN the difference is he isn't a youtuber..and he wouldn't be "making" anything. That's what a manufacturer is for 😂...I can clearly see Im on a different level business wise as practically everyone that sets tile. Lessen my competition by a long shot, no problem with that!
@ian5780
@ian5780 4 месяца назад
Got nothing but hate from this channels viewers. Wow
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