Wax Slugs 

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Very Very glad that you and your crew are safe so far! I have to ask, What About Cut-shells??? Have you thought about meat target testing these? I think I might answer my own question.....reliability issues and feeding problems, plus more than likely same results as wax slug. I'll have to see if my pump action will run them, reliably

Add a wick and light it and you got a tracer round.

@@christopherbishop4927 I've heard cut shells are basically useless out of any kind of tube or mag fed shotgun, only useful out of a breech. As far as damage, they'd be comparable to the wax slug meat target results at VERY CLOSE range, but with no real long range since they'd break apart after a very short distance, and probably pattern WORSE than conventional birdshot and retain less power at long range. Cut shells vs birdshot isn't going to be "enough of a difference to make a difference" and in any SHTF application you might need a shotgun, birdshot will outperform cut shells. All in all, the advantage cut shells give you isn't worth the effort when you can just get some candles and make wax slugs instead or just shoot unmodified ammo.

@@TheSquizzlet Do the wax variants cycle properly? I would imagine there could be issues if any inclimate weather were to be encountered.

So as you slowly die of internal haemoraging from taking a wax slug to the torso... *I wish I'd been a better person, hope my family is ok...who knew Death smelt like Cinnamon?*

I heard if you fire them out of a Browning Auto-5 they'll smell like Teen Spirit. 😜

Mine are mostly pine and cinnamon scented

@@mattberg916 mine are Lavender. It's calming.

@@BigDave423 bro I just realized what you said lol I was hahahahahaah

If you think a shotgun is impressive, look up a modern, replica blunderbuss. I suggest InRangeTV's videos. So long as you have powder and *something* to act as wadding, you can basically shoot anything out of it. Pellets, roundballs, silverware, literal rocks right off the ground? Not a problem. You might not be hitting anything too far away, but at home-defense/personal-defense distances? It'll do the job. Obviously there are options that do other things much better, but if you're looking for the ability to use basically anything as ammo? Blunderbuss.

That’s the thought behind people who insist the correct home defense gun is a shotgun.

TAOFLEDERMAUS No 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP, or 5.56/.223 ammo on the shelves, but there are pallets of bird shot in the aisles. Good insight on WTSHTF planning.

12 ga slugs feel like a clinic on my poor shooting technique. "Hey - what's that bruise on your cheek?"

How did I know you would be here? :D

I seem to recall a particular wax slug that hit glass and came back to haunt me. 😂👍

Ok, Taoflermaus...the gauntlet has been tossed! Let’s see slow mo of the wax slugs!!

same here, I wonder what he would've thought about all the mess going on now.

he most certainly would not but hes somewhere far beyond the troubles of this world now, a better place may he rest and shoot whatever firearms he likes at the great gun range in the sky for all eternity none could ever take his place

F in the chat for Barry

I learned about cut shells from Barry. He should've wrote a book about his knowledge.

Me too.

Maybe he is telling us to try this at home.... Paul wouldnt leave it out unless on purpose...

@@danieleliahushapiro4280 definitely something going on there. I've got plenty of birdshot.. craft day with the wife tomorrow!

Paul is right. Try it at someone else's house.

If some crazy arsonists is running towards the house with the intent to start a fire, I think anything will work, wax or not.

@@mrpibb7781 lol

This is the primary reason to make a wax slug IMO

Same here, wax slugs and cut shells.

I miss Barry. IV8888 kinda went downhill after he died.

and rightly so! Paul is definitely not the man to try stinging!

I would expect the bees to bring the wax once they learned about the plans to make this video ;).

It's a little-known fact that killer bees can't make their own wax, and buy it in boxes.

@@jic1 Specifically, Remington: black and yellow box.

icopter... and they ain’t no honey up in there!

Agreed! The modern cut-shell master, RIP Barry.

He was awesome! RIP Barry ❤

I apologize for my ignorance, but who is Barry? Another firearm channel host who has since passed, I assume?

@@OGSumo he was a fixture on the iraqVeteran8888 channel, and wealth of info. He was one of the firsts to post the idea of wax slugs(or made it popular) on youtube almost a decade ago, and i think(i could be mistaken...) is what influenced Jeffery Taofledermaus to start his channel ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-crOg6YvBeXk.html

I still see videos with Barry floating around the internet without ever mentioning the original channel. He seemed like a really decent guy and was an ambassador for firearms that will be truly missed.

Except that wasn't a projectile, it was the plastic shot wad/cup. A by-product of shooting shot shells.

Iraqveteran8888 has a few really good videos on wax shells and cut shells the range of both are pretty impressive for an improvised load like that you should check out those videos if you haven’t already Barry (RIP) from the IV8888 channel kinda made wax shells famous in the RU-vid gun world and with slugs and other defensive loads being $1+ a round a bird shot being one of the few things still stocked on almost all gun store shelves wax slugs are going to be more relevant then ever. RIP Barry.

@@Evergreen1400 RIP Barry. A few weeks back I was starting to go through IraqVeteran8888 catalog of videos. And wondered where my favorite character Barry was. As I have only watched 3 videos from that channel, and they all had Barry in it. Sad to see such a wise and funny person such as Barry gone.

Team Cap. Agreed they have a lot of great stuff I’ve been a patreon of TFM for a while been watching them since the beginning it’s channels like TFM , IV8888 , Paul and some of the old school demo ranch videos that taught me a lot about ballistic there was the other one TNoutdoors or something that use to test all the common handgun rounds in ballistic gel he was really good when he still made videos.

Used cut shells many a time back in the 60s on our ranch here in Texas, killed many a hog, deer and coyotes, they are deadly to say the least. I used # 4 bird shot ones, not the 71/2

Thanks for this. Was crossing comments for "why".

I wonder what the over penetration risks would be. Bird shot on its own poses some but not like that of a proper slug. Would the wax slug be in between, be very similar to a normal slug, or would it break up enough against a barrier to be a lower risk option?

yeah, i was a little disappointed that PH didn't go into the "frangible" aspect of them.

Was thinking the same thing, Over penetration protection. Ill have to hit up walmart for the 100 round box and build a couple walls and try it out.

@@Michael-ix7fg The pellets should stop in the second wall. The first wall will have a BIG hole in it, and the second should catch the pellets in the first layer of drywall.

Time to pilfer the kids crayons lol

@@inhumanfilth681 You're a monster 😥

@@inhumanfilth681 your "toob name" is hilarious 🤣👍

Hurry now while supplies last !

Use crayons then their color coded

That's half the reason I'm subscribed.

@ LOL, funny because this could be true. Buncha whining pansies, I swear! ;-)

You'd be amazed how many people in Oregon have never pumped gas before.

@@ScottKenny1978 One of my Oregonian friends had to ask for help on how to pump the first time she left the state. Where we gassed up, we could pump our own gas.

@@Quadrenaro yeah, when my mom was working in John Day with the forest service, one of the things she was asked was if she knew how to pump her own gas. The USFS had it's own gas pumps at the ranger station.

Wait... What... Seriously? People who can drive but don't know how to pump gas? It's either a great joke or a very scary fact. Either way got me laughing

check out this channel called Taofledermaus, he shoot a bunch of odd ball shotgun rounds including these wax slugs

Man this was the right video for the right time huh

Had a friend make slugs out of tightly rolled paper. Was pretty cool, didn't shoot for shit. Still wouldn't stand in front of it.

Only problem with cut shells is that it ruins the hull so you can’t reload them. With wax slugs you can. Another reason during an ammo shortage.

@Joakim Henrikson A "paper slug" is not Paper Patching a musket ball,,,!... Way different.

Used on farms so you don’t go through walls with ricochets when dealing with coyotes and the like. The Aussies use them for their deadly wild house cat infestation on farms. They are absolutely a horrible pest, (but still amazing pets. Lock up your pets mate!)

@@john-paulsilke893 I've heard about the feral cat problems down in Australia. I always thought of wax slugs as a home defense round but that makes a lot of sense.

Nathan Witus I have several friends down there and they are absolutely desperate. Everyone talks about the wild fires but the damn cats are 1,000 time worse. And the bleeding hearts are all about capture and re-home these unadulterated predators, but definitely won’t adopt these monsters. Further they are the worst offenders because they let them wander free as nature intended and don’t have them spayed or neutered because that’s cruel. A single cat can kill 10 endangered birds per day, and they can wipe out entire ecosystems in weeks.

@@john-paulsilke893 listen bro: I don't even condone the existence of domestic house cats in America. You could say I'm for "Cat Genocide Now" If I were the Aussies I'd train regiments of emu to kick cats to death. We all know what good soldiers the emu make. This is a "Great Emu War" joke in case you didn't get it

A tampered round for home defense might not go well, if there is ever a trial.

WHHHAAATTTT??? I CAN'T HEAR ANY GUNFIRE!!

Reminds me of that one video he did. I’m pretty sure the shooter was trying to spite him.

Same, I can imagine hearing just the engine peaking and clipping the microphone and Paul's lips moving making a very detailed explanation while making his usual faces, head motions and hand gestures while we can't hear a thing, then at the end as the engine is shutting down "you be the judge"

@@linkbond08 haha I can totally picture that!

Poor man's deer slug, really.

Wax shells make very good door lock breachers.

Yup Frangible for Home Defense, traditional slugs have serious drawbacks, and still effective at HD distances where birdshot may not be

I think if you just pour the wax in the top of the slug, instead of mixing the shot with the wax, they will frag better.

@@CS-zn6pp Yeah, everybody knows that the average Joe has to breach something like 2-3 doors a week, easily. Gotta love the Counter-Strike players commenting on real life videos.

Nice.

Yeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa

You too?

My Paul Harrell daki shall be snuggled accordingly.

@@coppertopv365 Man, I don't know if comments like this make Mr Harrell uncomfortable or not, he's probly too nice of a fellow to mention it if it does but this stuff is getting kinda creepy. One thing for sure, I have never seen or heard him invite this or the Chuck Norris memes. Compliments are one thing, having him as role model, great but either I'm missing something or....well, I don't have an "or". I as proud as anybody that his channel is growing, that he is being recognized and quoted by the big dog GunTubers. Stay calm tho if your dreaming of Paul's voice, this is my last stroll thru the comments. I enjoy his vids, knowledge without flaunting it, vids without skits, etc. I even find myself using the word "caveat" as has other GunTubers. Has responded in respectful and gentlemanly manner to my questions on several occasions. So Haters/lovers feel free to roast me cause I won't see it. I will still view and support the channel and hopefully become a financial help to him and a few more. Shuda quit readin comments a long time ago. Ya'll take care and I don't mean to disrespect ANYone so if you feel that I have, read the comments as neutral as possible. Mr Harrell, fill free to delete or ghost my comments. Thanks for your time in answering my not great questions.

You too?

Huh. That's a use I never would have thought of! Thank you!

Great tip. Thanks. ☺

@Matt KissMyassSocialist lol! That will be awesome.🤣😆

@Matt KissMyassSocialist have you been poking around in the back of my truck?

And if they're out of crayons at the stores, you can find them in a Marine Corp MRE.

Or when he describes the ammunition he is using.

Cut shells leave plastic streaks in my barrel that are hard to cleen so I don't do that no more

The problem I encountered with cut-shells if you used a shell with a weak crimp it would open leaving the hull somewhere in the barrel.

What is a cut shell?

@@suspicionofdeceit you literally cut the shell with a knife. If you cut a small groove around the circumference of the shell, about halfway into the shell material, near the wad, you basically make makeshift slugs. The projectiles do not open the crimp but send the whole business end of the shell flying. Lots of videos on how this is done.

Cut shells are useless wax slug gives you more penetration and also is like a fragmentation round

We're having a killer birthday party

If you have kids, you probably have a drawer full of old crayons, which work great for this.

@@taofledermaus Sick, Taofledermaus responding to my comment! You guys are how I got interested in reloading, and why my second gun was a shotgun (first was a pistol). But yes, old crayons would be great, 'cause your shots will be "rainbow surprise!" 🌈💥

This is why I'm never mad at my wife's copious candle collection and why I put them out in the shed when she says they've "lost their smell"

Is household wax the same thing as canning wax? The boxes look alike but I've never heard of household wax.

Thank you Mr. Harrell! Appreciate all these videos.

@@paulbaerwald8055 Comment also I don't think he sees all of the thousands only a few. But I'll say thank you for the kind words.

What did he use it for? When a kid,farmers loaded coarse salt and I loaded some black beans as non lethal shot. That was before rubber and plastic riot shotshels. Today I keep my pump with 1 st shell birdshot and 4 buckshot shells in the mag

@@WillyK51 He never said exactly what he used them for, or for that matter IF he himself ever used them. I remember him simply telling me about them.

@@bradbranch6462 Thanks Brad for taking the time to respond. I never got the idea to make one as it had no pourpose to me .I had a job at a shotshell factory when young and got fired for trying to out think what was standard . culd not stop inventing new shotshell combinations that where non profitable.

It's almost like slugs were made to do that better

I would hate to be the guy that would have to clean up that mess.

You heard it here first folks, make a big hole, not many small ones.

Same lmao

Will any crayons work? I was told only crayola

I use the wax from those scented candles the wife has scattered around the house. I especially like the Ocean Breeze or the Vanilla Bean ones.

Do former marines use their eating crayons?

Tracers

Heh, I thought it came from The Karate Kid movie... "Show me , Wax On, Wax Off!"

Pretty sure that's whacked, not waxed.

You won the internet today

unless you are in a lib run city then "he got waxed" means a whole another thing lulz

@@mikec3820 Ewwww😫😫😫

And we're at the range today, so bear with meddling kids in the background.

He's a dental assistant.

Paul is a dental assistant. He knows the term.

Thank you?!

He must just like being a dental assistant because he could easily do nothing but youtube and make a really good living lol

@@ElessarEstel Maybe he does do this full-time now, he hasn't mentioned the day job in a while.

The brass-slug expanding hollow-point a couple of weeks back was a thing of beauty.

IV8888 has a few old videos about them as well.

I've heard that single round ball shells were issued to the Home Guard for use in shotguns.

In the UK these days that would be illegal, on a shotgun certificate at least. It could possibly be legal on a firearms certificate (considerably harder to get, and more restrictive).

@@jic1 Yes, if the shell has less than 5 projectiles or any projectile over .36", you must have authority for it on your FAC.

more "old timer" I think

Point #4 of why a wax slug: they fragment at the first hard object they hit and quickly lose effectiveness from there. So much less over penetration and risk to whatever may be behind a wall.

What people don’t realize is that any round of any caliber that provides reliable penetration likely won’t be stopped completely by a human torso, and every single round available will go clean through a wall if missed. How far it goes/ how much energy it carries afterward is a different story, and depending on the energy of a specific hollow point it might not penetrate clean through, but at that point is it really effective enough if say the target was sideways and maybe an especially “big boy”, that you’ll effectively penetrate through a meaty arm and still be able to reliably penetrate the ribs and carry onto the heart? The human body is very soft, especially if you miss bone, and drywall is basically paper as far as a bullet is concerned. If you have variables you’re worried about hitting beyond your target (obviously within the confounds of your home) it would be much more effective to yell for your family loud enough to wake them to get on the ground so they aren’t nearly as much in harm’s way than to compromise your choice of ammunition. If you have a baby or something that obviously has no way of helping the situation, maybe try to take as high or low as possible as to miss. Know your target and what’s behind it at all times, and react accordingly.

@@shadoraeveon9312 JFC chill dork.

Nah, his jacket is a time machine, like Dr Who's phone booth, so he can film anywhere, anytime. You ever see how much stuff he keeps in those pockets?

@MrCevant sky doesn't look gray enough for that, but that may be a camera artifact.

@vegeta420z you're also sharing that with Idaho. Thanks a lot.

the fire knows better

Fire saw what happens to the meat target and went the other way and apologized for the trouble

Hot glue guns work too. But unfortunately the wax slug is by far the best.

@@john-paulsilke893 unfortunately? Wax in on a head and shoulders above in terms of being more available and cheaper. At least, it is what I see around me

worldoftancraft it has its temperature limits as Koko is expressing. Wax is best for a dozen reasons but heat is an issue, (but not typically a big one).

@@john-paulsilke893 What I really meant was when the lit wick reached the powder.

Guess china virus lock down blues make people come up with weird ideas. Whats wrong with plain old buckshot. Long before rubber and plastic riot shotshels I loaded coarse salt and black bean non lethal rounds to pepper anyone sneaking over the fence. Today 1st round in my pump is birdshot and 4 buckshot rounds.

@@WillyK51 It's not a "new concept"... I've known of wax-shells and cut-shells since the early 80's and learned it from an Uncle that knew about them longer than that. Might be more of a _Rural Thing._

William Kunszt Wax slugs aren't new in any way, the concept was even used in thompson riot control ammo when police had such weaponry, a rubber/paper bullet full of birdshot meant to shoot at the ground and pepper the legs of rioters. Wax slugs for shotguns definitely have a long undocumented history, never been that popular though

@@bluefalconssuck5881 I have been shooting some veird stuff, and reloads most of my life, yet candle wax just to seal some badly crimped shotshels Light 7/8 to 1 oz plincking loads so shot would not spill. I carry my mod 36 with two 38 cal buck shot pellets sized to 358 from a do-it sling shot mould and they wheight about 148 grns and with the propper stiff powder load I have a 5 shell 10 bullet gun. They actually engage rifling. Double tap with a single round. And if you followed Farm uncle advice buck shot gets the job done on the largest game if withing range. Bit old now and looking forward to buy a 300 or 338 win mag( Old time thumper gun raised )and stay alive long enough to teach and pass on this gun my 6 yr grandson to hunt. Have a 12 pack on the line if I can outshoot my Sgt son in law when he comes back from overseas duty. Might beat me( went recently to snipper school). No problem it´s gona be fun

@@WillyK51 The Military tested multi-projectile rounds in the 50's. They worked insomuch as the 2 & 3 projectiles spread out to cover a larger area, but reliable accuracy was lost at even medium range, and thereby scrapped the project. These rounds required a longer neck and _Might_ have worked for belt-fed machine guns, but _Standardization_ is always a key concern for supply reasons. Good luck on your bet. I went through that Course in the early 90's and I can't imagine it's gotten any easier. Your only advantages will be on specific weapon familiarity and D.O.P.E. for that weapon, as I doubt the Military is going to let him bring his Rifle home on leave. 😁 I'm pretty sure he'll have you on training, recent trigger-time (a perishable skill), and shooting under pressure. As for the Wax-Slugs... Concepts and their implemention go back as far as humans figured out how to make things "go Boom". Some of the more "inventive" cannon rounds/shot is scary/funny/impressive as hell.

I thought he was saying something inappropriate. Like you stupid band. Why I outta bang the band bang out of bang you. Just kidding of course. I know this is a live range and all, just sometimes the background noise is very deterring from the video. But I like his opinions on various rifles and pistols.

@sman7290 as far as I can tell they've never made a 12 gauge version.

I just learned about wax slugs and I plan on making some soon especially after seeing their effectiveness trough many videos

Well spotted... either that there is nothing professional about waxing bird shot or maybe Paul has been through a lot lately.

On second thought.... maybe he is telling us to try this at home... Paul wouldnt leave it out unless on purpose

Daniel Eliahu Shapiro , that’s an excellent analysis.🤔

I immediately realized the same thing because I have found myself repeating Paul's usual ending at the end of every video. It may be a "liability" thing. You know how disgusting people....... and some platforms have become. 👍🏼

I missed that trademark line !

Don’t drive through his firepit!

If Paul shot at you, we couldn't hear from you, except through Oda May. RIP.

Doubt that, Paul doesn't shoot 'at' people.

I love how the joke is inaccurate, simply because it implies that he wasn't successful ahahaha.

@@notsatch I'd love to have a group of people nearby to get me more "up to speed" in the world of firearms, but alas....things aren't always going to go our way in life, are they?? As it is, I'm quite thankful for the opportunity to learn via YT from the likes of Paul 👍👍

the fire knows better than to trespass on pauls land!

Knowing Paul, I bet he did it on purpose