Waymo seems to have the approach of avoiding any difficulties, like road works, or your "tricky pickup spots". To me, that sounds like a good way to stop improving your capabilities and stagnate at your current level of capability.
It's a bit more than that, at least for construction. It literally can't drive anywhere it doesn't have HD maps for, as I understand it. So, when there's construction, or something else that changes reality from what they have mapped, they have to block that area off from the nav until it reverts or can be mapped. It's one of the restrictions of Waymo's approach.
For me, the question is what we expect or should expect from this technology and why we should use it across the board in the future. I would like to see a cab service that costs not more than taking other forms of public transport. Thus, we would have to focus on cost efficiency, which what Tesla is doing is more in line with that. If we want to save on human drivers, the cost should not go up again because of the technology itself. How massive do you think the effort is to keep all these vehicles that Waymo uses operational? Constantly providing up-to-date, high-resolution, digital maps of all coverage areas, etc.? Or is it just a matter of making traffic safer? In that case, such systems would have to be perfect, which I think is utopian. Human drivers are not perfect either, and they don't have to be, because nobody and nothing can be perfect and error-free. The way road traffic has been working for a long time, accidents are neither avoidable nor significantly less likely to happen. So what should be the requirement for a driverless system?
Some Ungracious Noise!! Haha! Interesting video. Is the name sign new on the front dash. I don’t remember seeing it when I rode Waymo in January. Too bad Waymo took away most of your tricky pickup spots!
Phhhhhhh wake me up when the release notes say you can safely sit in the back seat and take your hands off the wheel. They have a looooooooooooooooong way to go :P
@@Xanthopteryx As much as we would like one cannot purchase a Waymo enabled car right? Therefore I’m encouraged by how fast Tesla is getting to a level of autonomy that requires less driver engagement.
@@kikidoll7101 You can not purchase a Tesla that can drive itself so... And for now, and for a long time, you still must be alert, and always pay attention. YOU are driving, the car helps you. That is ADAS, Level 2. And no Tesla on the roads will ever reach Level 5 (True full self driving). That is impossible.
@@JJRicks Just curious. I'm learning about Waymo and Teslas technology more and more right now, but can Waymo deal theoretically deal with routes outside Phoenix?
I did get a bit of merch, but only because one of my family members asked them so they could give it to me for Christmas (see: this video's thumbnail) ;D
Did you notice your initials in front window at 3 point turn and whats with roadside team lurkin after every ride, i thought the point was to remove the human aspect
@@JJRicks i went back and rewatched this vid again and it actually shows on all your pickups for this one. also this vid seems to kinda jump around, awsome content as usual but you know i like to see your full rides. Quick question too if you dont mind me askin, wats your actual daily driver car?
Yes, because WAYMO is at LEVEL4 it has yet to achieve LEVEL5 but every ride WAYMO gives someone is perfecting their tech and bringing WAYMO closer to LEVEL5. TESLA, in comparison, is at LEVEL2. !
i didn't like the snarky FSD comment. FSD and Waymo both have their advantages, specializations, and drawbacks. From my POV, they aren't even competing because they serve different markets (at least for now)
For now, yes. They are on an inevitable path to competition, though. And I don't say any way they both win. Either Tesla will reach level 5 soonish and put Waymo out of business (with far less expensive and infinitely more scalable solution) or Tesla's solution will prove fundamentally flawed beyond repair. The latter is looking extremely unlikely though, so I'd say it's just a question of how long until Tesla wins. Unless Waymo can find a way to make their solution dirt cheap. Then they can throw it on a bunch of existing cars and compete. Although, I suppose Tesla could do the same, if they wanted, and a few cameras are still going to be way cheaper than Waymo's sensor array. So, kinda still comes back to whether Tesla's vision-only FSD reaches level 5 relatively soon.
In the time it took for Waymo to fully launch we could've built a new (and far more useful) light rail line. We don't need new roads or more cars, we need less.
Not to hate, but you say "send me a video of FSD beta doing this" and later mention how when Waymo can't do a spot, they just don't allow you to go there anymore. FSD Beta is trying solve autonomy for most kind of possible scenarios, not just the ones convenient for Tesla or in that case for Waymo so it's not really fair judging one compared to the other. Great video though, I enjoy both formats with a solo drive and a few stitched best moments.
:D Yeaaaa I already get a lot of hate so it's fine. My apologies, it's best to remain neutral, but hard not to slip when you're taking fire from a certain side. Should have clarified though, I'm serious. I do want a video. Really curious!
Yeah, taking fire from any side isn't great because at the end of the day whatever company manages to get to the final goal is a win win for everybody. Autonomy doesn't belong to a company but to the people just like science belongs to the people. Just because companies take different approaches and have different progress, it doesn't mean one is necessarily worse than the other. I simply enjoy tracking the innovation on every side of the fight to autonomy.
@@JJRicks I guess the hate doesn't get better if you try to trigger people like this ;) Also the blacklisting approach for tricky pickup spots can be a workaround but certainly isn't a solution. It simply doesn't scale well enough if they wan to deploy Waymo in every bigger city.
Here's the thing about this technology though.. with everything going on in the world I feel like this technology has come out at the very long time with human trafficking going on.. some one can easily just hack the system
@@JJRicks There’s always a back door. There are always people that know how to gain access. It’ll be some Google employee that gets paid off and gives away the information to bad people.
I like the new initials screen on the outside, just like I imagined (well; kind of - it's weird that one can configure initials there himself, I would have thought they'd just show you which number to look for - because this way it can still happen that 2 cars with the same initials come up?)! BTW on the iPhone, the QR code also just brought me to the google playstore -> google assistant (but why!? Why not something like AirPlay? Meh) It's weird how Waymo can drive autonomously but at the same time isn't able to fix basic issues like the "rider support will call you shortly" at the beginning of each right. Also the "working to get you started" thing which sounds like it's stuck and needs to figure out how to get away. Or the car that got stuck and then doesn't get to you but you need to wait for the next car. That's weird.
what is the point of these do you like work for waymo or do you just not have a car and enjoy being driven around to random places in a self driving chrysler pacifica with a big ass camera and wings on it
Yeah that's nice and all but until they put this in MY car I just don't care. That's the whole reason I got a Tesla. Don't get me wrong, from what I'm seeing here Waymo is better. But until this is in my personal vehicle then I'll stick to the Tesla.
@@banjirjir7519 That's my point. They can't tout this as a major success or something "better than Tesla" if I can't have this in my personal car and take a road trip.
@@banjirjir7519 If they take decades then it will not happen because Waymo will go out of business. Tesla is going to have FSD cracked within a decade and their solution is not geo-fenced and much less expensive. That is the problem for Waymo. Their solution is highly effective but expensive and extremely slow to expand.
