You mean in this short clip? I don’t see it. He comes across to me as someone who was very angry at Johnny Carson, didn’t at all like being the butt of a joke, tells a fantastic story about the F.B.I., and may or may not have had mob connections.
Wayne Newton is the epitome of class. He tried for years to get Carson to stop, and, when that failed, he confronted Carson and made his position as clear as clear can be. That is how a good man handles things.
Many people have talked about Johnny Carson's cruelty and meanness, especially when he was drinking. Thumbs up to Wayne Newton for standing up to him because most people were afraid of him.
I'm on the fence with this. Joe Namath said in an interview that when Johnny drank he became mean, but when sober is was a really nice guy. Wayne was not Mr Sweetheart himself and Johnny not alive to defend himself makes me doubt what he is saying. With that said, I really don't know what to believe.
@@usfanlovesjiwoo1978 IMO - Johnny could be cruel; for example, he was horrible to Joan Rivers. Many times celebrities appear to get a way with things that the average person would be crucified for. It doesn't make the behavior OK.
He also got himself into reams of trouble; two examples are not moving from his 'museum' as investors paid him money up front to the tune of 19.5 million, and avoided taxes like the plague, so there is two sides to everything. He also had problems with the mob, though that is another story entirely. Not exactly Mr. Upstanding.
By first contacting an attorney-which is precisely what Newton in the clip says he did? There is at least an implicit thread of a lawsuit there. Whatever else Newton may be or have been, he certainly sounds thin-skinned and litigious to ME.
I heard Joe Namieth talk about Johnny Carson being a mean drunk.. probably had that meanness inside whether drunk or not, but when he was drunk did have normal impulse control.
Respect??? He's a fucking baby... Carson while not the best one he's a comedian they rip on people for a living... and if you react to it, they'll put it on even more.. He's a celebrity and got made fun of "too much", then complained... that's a baby.
The thing with Joan Rivers was that her contract was up and she was waiting for renewal. FOX offered her her own show, and NBC and Carson never left her waiting. She accepted the deal at FOX and she told phoned Carson and told him, he hung up on her and never spoke to her again. She gave NBC and Carson a chance but they didn't renew her.
He also banned her from the show and Jay Leno maintained the ban. I wonder what would've happened if she had barged back onto the show just as Wayne Newton did to stop the jokes?
Carson was married four times, was an alcoholic, Nameth called him a mean drunk, Wayne Newton said he was mean spirited in general and his closest business partner wrote a book about him ripping him to shreds. That's an awful lot of evidence that Carson wasn't a good person.
watch the documentary on Carson. ALL his wives hated him and it seems so did his kids. Carson was a mean spirited person. Seems like Carson didn't really have many friends too
David Letterman who had Carson as his boss during the NBC days said he was always on edge and on guard every time he went out socially with Carson because he knew Carson could and would turn on people at the drop of a hat. Letterman was also sober after having been an alcoholic when young so he always felt awkward even though they were by all accounts good friends. That tells you everything.
Namath may have the reputation of being a drunk (certainly co-owning a bar with Derek Sanderson cements that) but he has never been labeled a "mean" one.
I never doubted her accounts at all. I have seen many different interviews with Joan on different platforms talking about Johnny, and I can not say I ever heard her tell a different story.
Yes. Rivers was unfairly slammed by Carson. I was a fan of Johnny since I was kid, but it's the same as with Sinatra - brilliant in the spotlight, bastards out of it. Fiercely driven people give us wonderful things, but they leave plenty of carnage in their wake.
Wayne was from the same state as me n my family. Clearly there is a trace of Cherokee Native in him. Just like my family. Wayne was a huge American star and an icon. We love him. I liked Carson. Love Wayne Newton❤❤❤
The reason his career didn't suffer was because of his grueling work ethic and his prodigious talent as a one-man show in Vegas. Of course, he would never say that, so I did.
Newton is cool and a good hearted guy..my late mother in-law met him when they were both teenagers and he was already a newly known young singer..she said he was a sweet guy and a gentleman and bought her a fountain drink and they had a nice conversation that teenagers had back in those days..great story
Wayne Newton rocks and I don't blame him one bit for making a stand against Johnny. I liked Johnny too, but he did have a habbit of stepping over the line. He thought he was untouchable and Wayne put him in his place. Good for him.
Johnny Carson's former attorney recently wrote a book about Carson which added credence to what Wayne Newton said that Carson was: “A mean-spirited individual who hurt a lot of people." I also read that the reason Carson went after Newton with the gay-related jokes is because both men, and their business associates, were interested in buying a Las Vegas establishment (hotel-casino) and it was Newton and his backers who eventually ended up on the winning side of that business deal which, according to the article, infuriated Carson.
Mark Giardina-- I read the same book as well. As an added note I have read articles and listened to many people in the past say pretty much the same....that Johnny Carson was so insecure he was quite the pill towards many innocent people and Stars as well. Carson was a Bully long before it was the norm.
The casino hotel was the Alladin and both Carson and Newton were the public face of two competing groups of investors interested in buying it in 1980. Carson suggested publicly that allowing Newton to purchase it would be handing the hotel over to the mob. After the Newton group acquired the property, Carson never had Newton back on his show.
@@strothermartin5368 Right you are, Tracy. Major good point. AFTER he died. LOL. Remember the time Ed did the show while he was very visibly hammered and Johnny ragged the hell outa him?
It has been said that she favored his sister over himself and his brother. She might also have also been a narcissist. In the end, when she died, he did not attend her funeral.
Johnny Carson was a mean drunk, a chain smoker, and a difficult person in private life. However, his comedic is legendary, and I watch reruns of his show with great pleasure and appreciation. Do you know the old Hollywood saying? “If the public really knew us, they wouldn’t like us.” I’ve known a few major celebrities both here in the States and abroad, and let me tell you…
He eventually did give up smoking but it was too late. The damage had been done to his lungs & he eventually died from emphysema. Very talented host & comedian but a deeply troubled man.
Johnny had good writers on his show. The writers even wrote johnny 's comedy. Johnny was just a face for that show and he did a great job with celebrities
@@SunsetBoulevard111 Actually, most great comedians use writers extensively; for example, Johnny’s “friend” Joan Rivers. (Or they “borrow” other comedians’ material.) What the great comedic talents are best at is their timing (along with their stage personality and looks, of course.) But either you have good timing, or you don’t. Johnny was an excellent drummer, and his timing on jokes and retorts was second to none. BTW, I like watching the new comedians on YT. Some have fine timing (the good ones, lol.) But some have the worst timing I’ve ever seen, and the only laughs are from the drunks who aren’t even listening to the routine.
Dunno if the story Newton is telling is true, but he did tell it when Johnny was still alive. Like he says to Larry King "am gonna tell your somnething i have never said on TV" he did however tell the stroy one time on radio or in a magazine interveiw think iv read that somewere.
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It's really no secret that Johnny Carson was somewhat of a jerk in real life. There is nothing wrong with someone being shy and wanting privacy. But Carson was also moody, insecure, aloof, vindictive, and unforgiving of any slight whether real or perceived. Carson was the greatest talk show host in television history, no question about it. But the suave easy-going gentleman we saw on the Tonight Show was not the real Johnny.
It is very likely that Newton's assessment of Johnny Carson was very true. Rich Little for example repeatedly stated that after years of being a guest on "The Tonight Show" that suddendly he was Persona Non Grata with no explaination from Carson as to why. With the rare exception, one does not become a mega-media star in show business without ticking off someone, and Carson was in a position where he could get away with upsetting a lot of people without giving a damn if he did.
If Rich Little or Joan Rivers somehow had made their way back onto the show despite the ban, I'm sure security would've had them charged with trespassing.
Bushkin says the anger from Carson stemmed from his vying for a casino Wayne ultimately bought. The Carson camp dropped out but Carson's pride was hurt.
According to Joe Namath, Carson was only mean when he drank but very nice when sober. So who do we believe Namath or Newton. Newton has issues himself so I think I will lean toward Namath.
Wow...it appears here that LOTS of people knew Johnny intimately. I'd like to go on record as having said that Johnny was one of the kindest gentlemen I've ever known. I think he reacted differently to different people. It's obvious that he wasn't kind to everyone. But I can tell you, firsthand, he was as kind and thoughtful to me as any entertainer I've ever met. I may be the exception here but I knew him quite well.
We don’t have to know him intimately We just have to read his attorneys book on Carson Overall he seemed like a bitter midwestern ass to many people. I think you are an exception By the way how did you know Johnny so well?
Exactly right..Being a celebrity doesn’t mean you need to be endearing to everyone you run across. People like some people and dislike others. The number of commenters who seem to imply they knew Johnny or any of his celebrity guests is laughable.
@@davisworth5114 I’m jumping back into this conversation. At the risk of appearing to be a “name dropper”, I’m proud to say that I also knew Wayne Newton and found him to be a genuine “stand up” guy. He awarded me the gold record he received for “Daddy Don’t You walk So Fast” when I played the record for the first time it was exposed on radio. I also found him to be a guy you wouldn’t want to “cross”. In his dressing room following his performance on stage when he awarded me the gold record, his brother Jerry mentioned that there had been an issue between Jerry and a guy in the audience who was heckling Wayne during his show. As we were discussing the issue, there was a knock on the dressing room door. Jerry was certain that the “knock” was from the heckler. Wayne calmly walked to the door, opened it and was greeted by an obviously agitated guy who shouted, “Is your drummer in there?” Without hesitation, Wayne responded, “No, but he asked me to give you something”. A solid right hand from a very big Wayne Newton sent the intruder to the floor. Wayne calmly closed the door and the conversation continued as though nothing had happened. I knew Wayne Newton to be a man who personally dealt with his own challenges.
I thought Johnny Carson was the best for several decades. I recently started watching reruns of his show on Antenna TV, and i couldn't wait to laugh and enjoy watching a program i used to love. I just have to shake my head. I guess I never really gave any thought to the jokes and jabs Carson made at people. I literally can't stand the guy anymore. He was an ass and looking back from a 2019 perspective I'm surprised no one ever beat the shit out of him.
@April Hernandez no, Colbert full of political hate for Trump and doesnt try to be funny about it with good natured humor...he just comes across as angry and bitter.
According to the Carson book written by Carson's lawyer, Henry Bushkin, the "jokes" resulted from Newton beating out Carson for the purchase of a casino in Las Vegas (I believe it was the Riviera), which seriously pissed off Carson.
Larry King for years was fantastic at giving interviews. Like him or hate him . He did more than 30,000 interviews in his career. One of the best in the business. I'll give him credit.
For all you saying Wayne Newton is a saint... You keep turning a blind eye to the fact that he tried to get with a married woman named Helen Griswold... "Saints" don't mow another man's lawn
Johnny was talented in his own right. Comics make jokes at other people's expense. This is nothing new. That doesn't mean they're intended to be taken seriously. It's no different than a roast. Wayne chose to take it personally like some people do. It's a lot like the Chris Rock/Jada Pinkett/Will Smith situation, only Will actually did get physical with Chris.
Johnny Carson made careers for over 10.000 people mean spirited or not most people in the public eye way too often get tired of being the funny guy all the time ,but for almost 30 yrs he did it .
I loved Johnny... Just would not want to be married to him... But, as goofy as Wayne is lately, he is a 3rd or 4th degree black belt, so he really could have wiped the floor with Carson...
We love Wayne Newton. The night he rode the carousel onto the stage as a very young and handsome man is still one of our favorite shows. Gos bless Wayne Newton. ❤
Actually comedians used to hint that Newton was gay because when he was younger he used to sing with a much higher voice. That is the only thing they based it on.
I really liked Wayne newton when i saw him interviewed at his new 3 bedroom (beautiful) house. The interviewer asked him why he had only 3 bedrooms. He said something like "I don't need any more that" I thought the answer and that thinking was great.
Oh, is that video on RU-vid too? I wondered what happened after I read that he has to vacate his mansion. Then I read that he still occupied the mansion a year back but the public were denied tours as was the go in previous years.
Carson was the king of late night TV. But he was a REAL prick of a person. Read Henry Bushkin’s book about Carson. Bushkin was Carson’s lawyer for many years. Fascinating book.
Good on Newton for opening up about this and providing some clarity...you don't see entertainers rag on one another (from this generation, anyway) so Johnny must have done something quite drastic to cause Newton to publicly disclose what went on. Carson was noted to be a mean drunk, and it obviously carried over to his sober time while taping the show. It was obviously very traumatic for Wayne Newton.
Wayne took care of it well !! As far as him being a " her " that's bullshit !! I saw the man in person in 99' we were in the front row at Atlantis, Reno Nv. and 1st off, Wayne is a BIG CAT ! ( 6'4 or 6" 5 and an in shape 250lbs !) and an A+ Performer !! GOD BLESS Wayne Newton !
Wayne Newton is solid. His voice may not have aged that well, but so what. He pushes himself and has been smiling, laughing and singing for decades, bless his ornately decorated heart!
I just loved Wayne Newton's voice...some years back he was going to sing at Ameristar in North Kansas City Missouri USA, I wanted to see him but his tickets were high priced. A month before Christmas my youngest Sister got me a ticket, my seat was fourth row from the stage right in front of him. My sister passed February 28,2018 in Kansas City Missouri USA at the age of 58 years old of cancer. Thank you again for the ticket and I love you / see you at Jesus's feet.
Comedians made jokes about Newton's high voice the way they made jokes about Mickey Rooney when referring to height/short people, about Dean Martin for someone drinking too much, and so on. Anyone in the public eye is fair game, but other than that, it wasn't personal, it was a cultural reference, a standard. I've come across different versions of Wayne's story over the years, and they never match. At first I thought it was my memory that was faulty, but nope.
...and today he comes out and supports Dirty Harry Reid. So as far as I'm concerned, whatever Wayne-o has to say is very suspect. Hey Wayne, maybe Carson was right.
What happened was Wayne bought a casino in Vegas that Johnny and his investors wanted to buy. Johnny much like his reaction to Joan Rivers, considered this a betrayal and the friendship was over but Wayne stood up for himself.
Now, I first heard Newton tell this story around 1981, and it was pretty simple: he went into Carson's office and asked Johnny to knock off the jokes. There was no physical contact and no" I'm going to kick your ass". Newton has exaggerated this story over the years to make himself look macho.
Carson _was_ a vicious, horrific & violent mean-drunk. Jonathan / “Johnny” was also a selfish & self-seeking loner who was prone to rampant paranoia & blacked-out bouts of creepy “Peeping Tom”-related activities. A ‘comedic tv genius’ or not, this man was dangerous & sick as all get out. Good for Wayne on exposing that cretin.
I was thinking same dang thing... all these people commenting like they actually new either of them personally. I'll make one comment that stands true regardless if I knew either of them. Talk Show Hosts tell jokes, jokes written by them and a team of writers. These jokes often make fun of celebrities. Wayne Newton is the only cough "celebrity" who I ever heard took personal offense and threatened a Talk Show Host? I can't think of one.
When you have dealt with questioning people as much as I have, you get to where you can tell pretty easy by facial expressions when someone is lying. At the end, regarding the Mafia, when Wayne Newton said "I'm an Indian Boy from Virginia. I don't know about that kind of stuff." He was not being truthful.
