We Done with the 90's? Kenny Smith and Mark Jackson Fire Back 

Exactly! They were blindsided when Mike retired and knew the league would take a hit.

They even named mr Poole, Jordan..

EXACTLY

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@@justinr5989 Actually they were put into place to create more scoring and offense because fans didn’t want to see low scoring games. It had zero to do with anything Jordanesque and everything to do with making the game more exciting to more casual fans. Come on man. They created the rules to make players look more like Mike. Haha really. It’s shit like this that makes being an MJ fan hard sometimes. Haha wow. LOVED MJ growing up. Saw him 9 times in his prime including when he scored 20k @ the old Spectrum in Philly.

It’s true, Lebron only faced “champions” because they were able to beat him. MJ denied Drexler, Barkley, Malone, Ewing, Miller, etc, so they look worse in retrospect. If Lebron didn’t lose to Dirk, Dirk wouldn’t be a champion. Etc…

@@justinr5989lol!! He’ll yeah. I’ve never seen it from this point of view

Facts

@@justinr5989 and now those players are considered weak and they say Dirks 2011 Mavs was a powerhouse..gimme a break

​@@justinr5989LeBron hooked up to win his first championships

Simple.. hes not

@@nathanmckenzie904 indeed

Even Grant Hill...how is Lebum one or two?

@@nathanmckenzie904not even close 🤷🏽‍♂️

he's not

An on roids

And only playing one side of the ball while the rebounds just fall to where you stand since you’re not defending either the paint or the corner.

yup longevity only matters if you are winning.. anyone can play through their 40's moreso today because of the lack of effort and all the rest the stars get.. MJ proved he still can play @40 averaging 20ppg thats with years of retirement.. lebron being a play-in team just proves he needs to retire

@@J23LA24 Spot on

and 60 games a year.

it really was!!! That's was so unexpected of a question for me too while reacting.

Word like they don't know about the starks and Oakley trap leading to a facial over my favorite player of all time Ewing or the ridiculous hang time going left and coming back with a reverse on the nets 😂😂😂

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Deez kids are crazy

The 'Go Left' Conversation is such a silly convo... GO LOOK AT THE TAPE - Layed up with his left, went left, dunked with his left, shot A free throw with his left.... -- The footage is out there, disproving anyone that says Jordan couldn't go left.... oh yeah, he could pass with his left as well. 1. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I0Ki-hXm_lE.html 2. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pr2G8Vg5dfM.html 3. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rIFKOXHHZq0.html 4. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iykYXfNmXZs.html 5. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IErL0fs8GxU.html 6. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--qCCm0V4hvw.html There's more but I won't go any further Let us please stop with this SILLY MF'N Conversation for Good

yeah I kinda like this side of Kenny. Podcast Kenny would definitely be something I'd watch

My man said and so was the globetrotters 😂😂😂😂😂😂

The only time I really don't like Kenny is when he's talking to Shaq and Charles like he was on their talent level. Kenny was a great player but he was not an NBA star and those two guys were among the greatest at their position of all time at the NBA level. It stems from his individual and success pre NBA.

Kenny's a hater who tries to boost himself up with the guys he holds court with now. No one respects kenny and his self-serving attitude. He needs to go

That's a lie. That's all they do is hate. They mad these players now are getting paid out the ass.

He's better than a lot of people know but him calling himself "that guy" was a reach lmao

I dunno about him being forth fiddle and basketball knowledge going unnoticed. He was always the most detailed descriptive analyst on Inside the NBA. He even had his own segment every game using the green screen to break down play, just him. Out of the 4 hosts, I would say he was the most detailed and knowledgeable.

it's different when you have less than 30 seconds to offer a soundbyte following an entertaining personality like Chuck. when given the entire floor, he can go into his entire knowledge "bag" in depth...

@@jimmybrooks2000every player who’s been in the league was that guy lol. 99% of them are the star until they get to college or the league. He won an award and had accomplishments before the league so as a hooper he was that guy. He ain’t just a dude on the street preaching “if I didn’t get hurt” 😂😂

@@dacoda0211 That's not my point. My point is him saying "I can go to the champions party and 2 time champion party" so on and so forth. Yea he's a champion but we know why he's a champion. Like I said he was better than a lot of people think but he wasn't that guy in the NBA the way he made it sound

And when Larry Hughes got there

@@potenteon2028Larry Hughes was trash 💀

He couldnt get FG% over 50 until the league implemented gather steps to make Lebron’s crab dribble legal.

​​@@jaydot4956 So was Scottie Pippen his 1st couple years... don't stop Bron fans sayin MJ was 1-9.

@@leonardjackson6210 yeah but nobody expected Jordan to win a championship when Scottie was a rookie, people really trying to say Lebron should’ve won a championship with Larry Hughes as his second option lol.

Yeah he would!

Yep!!!

Anybody would be a star in the NBA now. Let's say, Jason Richardson, Joe Johnson, Jason Terry, Darius Miles, Corey Magettee, Ricky Davis, Gerald Wallace, Jeff Green, Michael Beastly and my man Nate Robinson.

Would torch in todays NBA

Nonsense

And then there are guys that goes illegal defense. I'll trade the illegal defense for the clothesline as they get in the paint and not get a flagrant.

John Stockton would avg 30 pts and 20 assist in today's game, Jordan would probably a good 45 and shoot 65% from the field.

The NBA is in such a rush to anoint the next face of the league that it's devaluing the game and the reputation of the players who actually shed blood, sweat, and tears, and worked regular jobs to feed their families while they pursued their dreams. They weren't compensated enough for the hard work and entertainment they provided as they built the NBA into the multi-billion dollar corporation it is today. When the Old School players retired, they left the game in a much better place than when they came into the league. The current NBA salaries are a testament to the foundation that was laid by Lew Alcindor aka Kareem Abdul Jabar, George Mikan, Nate "Tiny" Archibald, Bob Cousy, Jerry West, Dr. J, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael "MJ" Jordan, and a plethora of great basketball players too many to mention. Unfortunately many youth of this generation are ungrateful or clueless to the wonderful sacrifice and the great players that persevered through hard times and played the game when there was no money in it because they LOVED the game of basketball. Yes they were garbage collectors, doctors, and mailmen, who paved the way, heck one basketball player from the New York Knicks retired and became a U. S. Senator for the state of New Jersey and also ran for the United States of America as a member of the Democratic Party losing the nomination to Vice President Al Gore. Senator Bill Bradley aka "Dollar Bill" was no scrub. He's a 2x NBA Champion with the NY Knicks, played twelve years in the league, averaged 12.4 ppg totaling 9217 points, 3.2 rpg totaling 2354 rebounds, 3.4 apg totaling 2533, won an Olympic Gold Medal in 1964, was the Most Outstanding Player in the 1965 NCAA tournament even though his team came in third place. Dollar Bill graduated from Princeton University and attended Oxford University as a Rhodes Scholar. He served his country in the US. in the Air Force branch of the military. He won numerous awards in his basketball journey, too many to number but here's a few: Mr. Basketball USA 1961, UPI College Player Of The Year 1965, AP College Player Of The Year 1965, 2x Sporting News Player Of The Year 1964, and 1965. Went across the sea and conquered Europe as a BUSF British University Champion 1966, and ABBA English National Champion 1966. His list of accomplishments goes on and on. Let me see Ant-Man, JJ Reddick, or any of this generation of NBA players put their resume against his resume. It wouldn't even be close. They could never compare themselves to him first of all they would have to graduate from college twice before they lace up their sneakers in the league. Ant-Man, JJ Reddick, and Gilbert Arenas better put some respect on the Old School NBA players' names and stop talking crazy. I salute the great Senator Dollar Bill Bradley (who represented my beloved NY Knicks team so well) and the rest of the pioneers of the NBA. P.S. Did I tell you that Dollar Bill is a member of the Basketball Hall Of Fame? 🎤 drop! As Kendrick Perkins would say, "Carry On!" 😂😂😂😂😂

I think Anthony Edwards is a phenomenal physical talent but there is nothing about that dude that makes me think he is intelligent.

Back to the basket, 30 feet from the rim. Not even posting up, just getting to the top of the circle trying to set up the offense, looking over your shoulder.

And what set LeBron apart is his IQ

what set MJ apart is his big hands and 48"vert.. everything else can be copied but those god given gifts cannot be copied and if there was a player with both of those things it becomes hindrance to them.. kawhi with his big hands can do MJ esque things but the dude didnt have the athleticism and health MJ had

​@@legenddaryl537I would have to disagree about that Kawhi statement. Even as big as his hands are he is still not palming the ball and doing the things that MJ did while palming the ball. MJ made an art form out of palming the ball that can't be duplicated at all. The same way MJ's game was artistry, his basketball palming was the same. Another level..

He couldn’t go left

​@@legenddaryl537I think people really miss how having luck in the genetic lottery really helps driven athletes. You're right, work ethic can actually be copied. And genetics can't. But what typically happens is that the work ethic isn't copied, while the genetics can't be.

he was so good pre injury!

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Utah jazz would have at least forced a game 7 if it weren't for Harper's defense. He was so good in every aspect and never gave up on a play.

Even Bryant Reeves would be a Max player today. They pay so much money to role players nowadays in the current NBA.

Besides his stuttering he would be a max player and star on a team today. Respect Ronnie

MJ was a beast on defense. Anyone who watched it knows it

MJ had alot of people... even coaches mind-f'd. Pip was equally credible on defense and he had the advantage of being physically longer with much longer arms. Pip was a defensive nightmare and could guard 1-5. MJ was not physically equipped to guard 1-5. The key to those rings was Pip. MJ could ball out of control, score 63 points... and all of that... but still get swept. If I was coaching against the Bulls I woulda let MJ get 80 points... and watch him lose, just like those earlier teams did when MJ had a 1-9 playoff record.

@@kaydub7079 lol you talking like when pippen came, they started winning. You realize they still lost for the next 4 years with pippen right? Pippen came in averaging 7pts a game. Pippen was on the bench when Mike hit that game winner in Cleveland. Pippen was on the bench in 91 finals fouled out when Mike hit that clutch shot over divac and sent them to it then went on to score most of Chicago's points while holding magic to zero assist and zero buckets in ot. Pippen was out half the season in 98 with back issues and rodman was coming off the bench in the finals while pippen had a bad back when Mike carried them to their 6th ring. Every player needs help. But to act like pippen is just as good as Michael is just insane. Pippen played his part and did it well. Look up their averages in the playoffs and finals and you tell me who was more important. Pippen lead in more blocks and rebounds while Michael lead in everything else literally while carrying almost 2/3 of the offense.

But these clowns today will tell you with a straight face that Pip was the better defender!

@@mikelowrey__ lol too late! Somebody already jumped on this thread and tried to make that point. Lol smh

Kenny don't believe that he already said they would've beat Chicago

@@otisyoungblood And that's where Kenny shoots away a bunch of his credibility.

Yup. And Screaming for Vengeance kicks ass, like almost everything else Priest ever did.

​@@mj23goat3Hakeem and his Rockets where the Bulls nemesis. They have a losing record against them in the regular season, every year they won the chips. I am aware that there is a difference between the regular season and the finals, but it's not that far off. To say that he loses his credibility is.

They use to dominate the Bulls when they played. Who would have stopped Hakeem? Let that sink in.

Prime Lebron couldn't handle old Kobe. Kobe used to bake his ass in their matchups, and yet folks thing Lebron is better than Jordan? Pfffft. Not. A . Chance.

Dude Price was so good!

They have a video said "MJs handles was wack. He couldn't go left" goggle it. Now he cleaning it up because Mark Jackson woulda shut that B.S. down

@@RodneyPillows Thing is, it's easy to find clips of a players' worst nights and just put them together then claim that's how it was for an entire career. Anyone who grew up watching Jordan knows, the guy was a SAVAGE with his left.

Different podcast Kenny said Jordan didn’t have great handle in college. Over the summer Jordan comes back with great handles.

Exactly! How come the self-proclaimed goat can’t learn by just observing all of those Hakeem’s footworks. Jordan learned by just watching on the sidelines from his idols. Maybe it’s true that Lebron got stuck always on the first pages of the books that he’s reading.

Exactly. In 2010 people said kobe was better than MJ. Nobody is saying it now

yup, most athletes legacies don't trancend time. Jordan has though

this.. let the new era taste this shit before running their mouths about who is the best.. NBA could implement this anytime they want

Defensive 3 won’t matter when everyone in a 5 out. The biggest change in rules they haven’t addressed was illegal defense. This forced one on one matchup with no strong side help. No zoning up in 90’s. Once the early 2000’a hit and zone was allowed then it became the hardest defensive era in basketball. 2012’ish they changed rules to make it more exciting and now we have the broken product today of 140 pt games

Yesssssssss..

3 seconds always existed. Just bring hand checking back so dudes have to work for shots and the post play matters

Only thing you forgot.......and call travel again.

I've Been saying this. It's because the media is pushing his legacy and his dumbass face everywhere, even when we don't want it. Kobe will be ranked higher when all is said and done......by anyone who knows even the smallest amount about basketball.

Greatest spectacle in NBA history, and that's not necessarily a positive thing.

You are right about that and LeDiva knows it

😂😂😂😂😂 plot twist

He’s juicing PEDs he’s definitely not top 10’

I agree on both here. The lack of college experience is definitely detrimental to the current nba

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its the start of the decline when they started letting HS players play in the NBA.. KOBE as great as he is even in HS needed time to mature in the NBA.. most of these players needed time to improve even lebron wasnt a complete player.. Lebron doesnt have post moves + cant shoot middies thats because he played with HS players who he can bulldoze everytime.. yes his athleticism translated in the NBA but boy his flaws stands out..

@@legenddaryl537dude I disagree both Kobe and Lebron were special and were league ready. That doesn’t speak for everyone else tho. The overall talent today is watered down aside from shooting which is next level today. This is why we can’t have hs kids anymore.

@@shootthejay7002 7ppg was nba ready for you? even kobe's 2nd year he still wasnt nba ready.. yeah bron was different but he had all the freedom in the world because their team was never expected to win anything but because of that lebrons game never developed until he hunted for rings..

100% he played so much smarter when he got older

​@@TheRealMindCrimehe truly did. He let the game come to him and he scored so much more easily. Actually he did everything more easily as he got older. He did not have to expend anywhere near the type of energy he did his first three or four years. And I know, yes, a lot of that was due to Scottie's development.

Mike used to wipe away the hand check like he was trying to break a dudes wrist. He was a killer.

This isn’t just an NBA problem this is all sports across the board. Its sad. Look at football smh

It’s not about competition anymore, it’s about entertainment, we old guys were entertained by competition, these new folks never seen or participated in real grimy competition, they are all friends and are even friends with their coaches🤣which is weird to me.

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☝️ ditto

​@TheRealMindCrime or you think bron 10 😂 I'm unsubing for that nonsense this why yall word mean nothing 10 all time is crazy

Kukoc and Rodman were both ridiculed for being more focused on one end than the other. But Kukoc played much better defense than Harden

He would of cooked that curry

Or Alvin Robertson.

Can you imagine Bruce Bowen on Stephen Curry 1 v 1 I'm sure Curry would have so much trouble scoring on him.

Gary Payton on Curry

Thats what I think which is really messed up when they was supposed 2 be such good friends supposedly. If he was as great as he says he is he would've nvr said that and differed 2 Kobe or whoever was killing it at da time. But no big dumb lefossil said that 1 right there made me the goat lol please lol maybe the lazyiest all time always leaving his team 4 on 5

Leflop isn’t even top 3 greatest Laker of all time. He’s not top 15 NBA greatest player

And he couldn't even do that

Hate Bron all you want, but he's still the GOAT for millions and winning more and more people over daily. Saying he doesn't come close is crazy.

@@rikogreen7596idk about millions lol. Lebron is only popular in America because of all the media he paid to talk about him. He is relatively small outside America compared to MJ and Kobe. That’s also why nba viewership is falling drastically, because today’s basketball and face of the league isn’t it.

That would be fun to watch! Chambers was really good for the Suns

yup I agree. His two way play was a requirment to be a starter in the 80s and 90s

and he proves he is a winning player.. hes brand of basketball tho not a 1st option is still more valued than bullshit 3pt specialist

@yeelahowah7476 I'm a day one on Jrue... He puts in the work. He's fundamentally strong on both sides of the ball. Curry to me is more a 2 on the court.

@legenddaryl537 not everybody is 1st option... Jrue can play with any team and any style. He's an all around basketball player.

New Joe dumars

For sure. I like that he got up and demonstrated it. He's dead on about it. Things were much tougher when we had to have our backs to the basket at all times

As big of a deal as it was, it was a rough transition for referees, and you can see it in the film. Very little changed for a good 2 or 3 years after the rule was added. For me the bigger impact was when Adam Silver became comissionner, but these former players are afraid to say it. There is a bigger difference between David Stern's NBA and Adam Silver's NBA than the difference between 2000-05 NBA and 2006-10 NBA.

And I’ll add to that by saying no players outside of Lebron and Melos numbers went up after the new rule - HOWEVER, they were also 2nd year players. And if you have watched ball long enough, you know that top draft picks always take a jump in their 2nd year. If the league just started scoring in troves I'd take Kenny's argument, but real ball handlers learned how to deal with handchecks ages ago thanks to Rod and Penny. The off-arm is key, as is pacing. The real issue is guys are allowed to carry, push off, take several steps, and the defense cant do anything about it without being called for a tech. The only defense you can play is offball where the ref isnt really looking

Lebron goat with hand checking. Hed win dpoy 7 times in his prime

Second!

Second!

yeah he was on fire on this one

Lol wow. According to that logic then Bill Russell and Jerry West are the Goats. Silly humans 😆

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His basketball IQ is so high good players, play better when they're not on his team. The statement about LeBron I hate is, "He makes other players better." Like he's Magic Johnson or something. Joker has a better impact on the game offensively than LeBron has ever had. And he's a younger player. We have to stop this.

absolutely!

Thank you!!! I didn't expect this big of a reception to this.

Bro I believe you..I went to a game at 40 and I was like heck no..put me in the game and I'll break the internet..I kept telling girl..this guy's are avg..I would destroy them..I know I would...

@@Shigami-lb6oc FACTS ALL DAY BRO! These guys in the league today are trash. Bro, we could start a 40 year old team, in shape of course, and bust their ass any day of the week.

More like Ed Reed. Go Ravens!

I'm glad i found it! Thank you!

100% That's why i still enjoy watching Kyrie. He can get a shot off anytime he wants too even though he's the shortest dude on the court

well if they really want to know who was the better player the NBA can always bring back those rules.. hand checking, traveling and we will truly see that average players now would be average or below before

And thats 1 of the reasons why world basketball is coming closer in beating USA in basketball.

Seriously. The jet was cooking on this one!

I can't respect a league where 20 out of 30 teams are in the postseason. Less urgency in the regular season, star players disappointing fans by taking way too many games off. It's the opposite of what baseball used to be....4 teams in the postseason.

@@jammiebooker6489and you see how all this is coming towards the tail end of lebron career ? It’s crazy people are blind to this…just to say “lebron made the playoffs at 39 40 Mike couldn’t” they always have excuses for lebron it’s so crazy

@@Judahdabutcher9 I feel you. The fact is one is secure in his legacy and the other isn't. And all the gimmicks (in season tournament banners, Olympics MVP, etc) won't change that.

Absolutely. Mark is a real one

thank you!

Good morning!

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Brain rot exists. Trying to train gen z apprentices is the biggest challenge in being an electrician, no doubt.

exactly

You give Mike a solid starting 4 in his early days he comes out beating bird n Isiah simple as that it’s just that Chicago was horrible

exactly. even just as humans because of the advancements in medical science we typical survive to much older age than we used to. That doesn't mean that the 1900's humans had no skills in survival lol

thank you so much eric!!

Wow! Thank you so much for the kind words!

yup, they both played with and against these dudes. They know

Agreed all the way!

exactly!

Lebron can’t even be trusted to hit game winning free throws with the game on the line and these clowns are calling him the goat.

The problem with Lebron is his behavior, lack of responsibility and even fundamentals. His unacceptable antics would send him on bench or worse kicked out of that old school NBA.

Those are facts

MJ is 9-0. 6 nba rings, 1 ncaa, 2 olympic gold. Never lost in a championship situation

Technically you’re right in championship games/playoffs about Michael. But that would make him 9-9 based on years played. But after NC won the title in 82, with Michael, they failed to make the final 4 in the following 2 seasons.

Yeah its true. Kenny was a monster from the 3 point line

Yeah people in the comments here calling Kenny a scrub blows my mind. Kenny was a key part of the championship Rockets

@@TheRealMindCrime just shows they have no real basketball knowledge. People like that i can't have conversations with. Only see one generation. And not evolution.

I couldn't agree more. Most of those comments i don't bother replying to cuz they are hopeless lol

100% If he was just a scorer than he'd be no better than a James Harden

Thank you so much! I got about 20 comments in here telling me to shut up and stop talking so this is really refreshing to see. Thank you!

I like it!

Yup lol. This was fun to see.