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We FINALLY know why these Operators Joined Nighthaven! - Rainbow Six Siege Lore 

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We FINALLY Know why Ela, Smoke, Pulse, IQ and Finka all left Team Rainbow to join the Private military organisation known as Nighthaven
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0:00 Intro
0:35 Ela
1:09 Finka
1:48 IQ
2:21 Pulse
3:05 Smoke
3:39 Kali
4:13 Osa
4:45 Wamai
5:16 Ace
5:49 Aruni
6:29 Grim
7:02 Mission Report T9
7:18 Mission Report 22L
7:39 Mission Report 3CM
7:53 Mission Report ABX
8:10 Mission Report DK4
8:26 Analysis
10:23 Outro
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@cyberquiz4661
@cyberquiz4661 Год назад
I think IQ just saw her pick rate and entered her villain arc
@Bexs_yt
@Bexs_yt Год назад
fr
@shadownation2410
@shadownation2410 Год назад
@@Bexs_yt she’s going to be the most used attacking operator now because of the new op
@NemuiCustoms
@NemuiCustoms Год назад
Both this and the second reply are W statements lol
@Cuwzy
@Cuwzy Год назад
iq is literally my auto pick op i played her that much (nah jk i played her a little bit but the game is glitched)
@gavin8517
@gavin8517 Год назад
@@shadownation2410 or one of not, the new op has an insane range on her gadget
@tsukikotsutsukakushi9339
@tsukikotsutsukakushi9339 Год назад
I'm still convinced that the real reason for Ela leaving to join Nighthaven is as a plant to keep track of their movements for Team Rainbow. She's proficient in undercover work and using her antagonistic relationship with her sister is the perfect cover story.
@klaykid117
@klaykid117 Год назад
That makes sense although I also thought Ela switching over to nightHaven was the most logical switch seeing as how in her bio she was stated to already have been a private contractor she was actually rainbows first mercenary. I always figured that if there's actually was a plant in night Haven it would 100% be finka as with her close ties to Sam Fisher would make her a better infiltrator (splinter cell double agent) as well as knowing what happens when you get on his bad side and join the bad guys just ask Lambert and 4th echelon.
@martind5653
@martind5653 Год назад
@@klaykid117 Funny I heard Pulse is undercover ops for Ash. Also he has ties with Hibana.
@tsukikotsutsukakushi9339
@tsukikotsutsukakushi9339 Год назад
@@klaykid117 the way i see it finka left rainbow to have a bigger budget and more time in order to help find a cure for her debilitating ailment. lorewise, i'm not sure how i feel about the connection between her and sam fisher since he was essentially tacked into the game by ubi. it would seem like a cop out if ubi gave him a bigger role in the game when they could be working on the splinter cell franchise instead.
@klaykid117
@klaykid117 Год назад
@@tsukikotsutsukakushi9339 true
@kommanderkermit4874
@kommanderkermit4874 Год назад
@@tsukikotsutsukakushi9339 I mean he already has a massive role as he has taken over as director of rainbow if im not mistaken. Harry is now the psych expert rather than credited as Director of Rainbow.
@ArkayeCh
@ArkayeCh Год назад
The Pulse thing is tragically hilarious because in Extraction's timeline, they had a KID LOL
@kofeiNn
@kofeiNn Год назад
as you said, in extraction *timeline* . Events of extraction are non-canon so it could be that they simply never broke up. You think that bisexual people can't have kids? They don't have to be with both sexes at the same time, it's not how it works; most of bisexual people chooses to be with just one partner, male or female
@ArkayeCh
@ArkayeCh Год назад
@@kofeiNn I meant it's tragically hilarious he broke up with Hibana here because in Extraction, they seemed super committed to each other - enough to have a family together and I remember Pulse's bio mentioning how much his family kept him going. It might be a different timeline but they technically are the same characters with the same thoughts and traits. So again, hilarious how in this timeline that relationship gone completely the other direction (for reasons only half explained let's be frank). Idk how to respond to the sudden bisexuality lecture considering that wasn't relevant in the original comment. Bisexuals are bisexuals and that's all. But now that it's mentioned, I do find it sort of weird it's implied that he switched to Nighthaven to... explore his bisexuality? Is Nighthaven somehow more welcoming/queer-friendly?
@AdderTude
@AdderTude Год назад
@@ArkayeCh "Is Nighthaven somehow more welcoming/queer-friendly?" That appears to be the explicit primary reason for Pulse and Osa joining up. Frankly, it's pretty stupid writing. Plus, given Finka's appearance in Breakpoint's Amber Sky DLC, Ubisoft will either address Finka returning to Rainbow by 2025 or disavow Ghost Recon as a separate timeline altogether. The latter case would suck, writing-wise, but I can also see Ubisoft totally copping out by doing that.
@kbthegoatw
@kbthegoatw Год назад
@@kofeiNnwhen did he say bisexual people cant have kids??? Insane reaching your doing rn
@simenvh2353
@simenvh2353 5 месяцев назад
@@kofeiNn why do you instantly assume he doesnt think bisexual people can have kids? like bruh quit looking for stuff to be offended by that OBVIOUSLY wasnt what he meant
@EdenTGG
@EdenTGG Год назад
"Personal note: Follow up with Ace to remind him there's no time for shi-" im fucking dying
@jacobeubanks6080
@jacobeubanks6080 Год назад
What time stamp?
@ProTeuTeu
@ProTeuTeu Год назад
@@jacobeubanks6080 8:04
@Exodus12341
@Exodus12341 Год назад
Smoke liking change has always been his personality. But the bit about his daughter is probably the real reason he joined. From what I’m hearing she is probably under some kind of witness protection type of thing and if things get heated, Nighthaven can get her out of the situation better then Rainbow ever could or if at all
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
Good point, I didn't really think of it that way
@ryansgamingbrownbs3380
@ryansgamingbrownbs3380 Год назад
What if it’s just cause thought fuck it why not
@elecric
@elecric Год назад
@@ryansgamingbrownbs3380 Well, that's how most ideas start. The important part is building on those ideas to tell an interesting story.
@CountChocula-on9ix
@CountChocula-on9ix Год назад
The last thing I would wanna do is trust my daughter with a pmc group. LOL
@ruanvcunha
@ruanvcunha Год назад
I love that Kali's report about Wamai is basically "he is quite a nice dude, he likes to find something in common with people so he can connect to them". Wholesome, 10/10
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
He is her 2nd hand man for a reason
@BigBOTUS
@BigBOTUS Год назад
This is why wamai is my favourite
@andremaube5069
@andremaube5069 Год назад
Wamai is our bro
@hiddenwoodsben
@hiddenwoodsben Год назад
yeah, honestly, wammy is just... cool. all-atound good guy.
@lucasa.3189
@lucasa.3189 Год назад
Ubisoft: "Pulse joined NH because..." Me: "Let me guess, he didn't feel comfortable inside Rainbow because he's an adventurous guy who likes to explore outside his comfort zone. Plus, after the whole tournament, he realized that R6 was holding him back and he needed to get out of there in order to reach his whole potential as a soldier and as a human being" Ubisoft: "Because he broke up with Hibana and now he's bisexual" Me: "Wait, wtf!?"
@INSYA
@INSYA Год назад
Ngl its funny af. "Pulse left cause hes bi"
@lucasa.3189
@lucasa.3189 Год назад
@@INSYA I imagine Pulse doing the Idubbbz meme and having a conversation with Harry like: Harry: "Pulse, what are you doing on the table? Jump down..." Pulse: *Jumps down* "I'm bi" Harry: "What the he-" Pulse: "Anyway, I'm joining Nighthaven. Bye!"
@Kilo_23
@Kilo_23 Год назад
You ever just change your sexuality and go off to join a rogue militaristic PMC group because your ex can't get over the fact you like the D more than the V
@lucasa.3189
@lucasa.3189 Год назад
@@Kilo_23 "The nordic sausage is much tastier than the japanese sushi" -Jack "Pulse" Estrada
@TheShadowNetwork.
@TheShadowNetwork. Год назад
Tell me ubisoft is creatively bankrupt and woke without telling me they're creatively bankrupt and woke. Ubi: Pulse left team rainbow because he's bi. Wtf ubi? Remember when you write stories and not propaganda?
@greasey8695
@greasey8695 Год назад
3:59 “I…remove obstacles, as any good leader should.” *toilet flushing*
@thedbdentity2102
@thedbdentity2102 Год назад
Why does it fit so well
@awesomearsam1890
@awesomearsam1890 Год назад
**Sharts aggressively**
@bigmangabe
@bigmangabe Год назад
I'm glad that smokes daughter still exists in the cannon.
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Год назад
I feel bad for her, since her dad is now a deserter.
@LorisTheUntethered
@LorisTheUntethered Год назад
Ready to be fired at any moment.
@thebehiii5087
@thebehiii5087 Год назад
everyone: having deep personal ressons to join NH . smoke: f* it we ball
@wittyn0550
@wittyn0550 Год назад
I’ll be honest. I don’t trust Nighthaven but more importantly Kali. It just seems like something bigger is going on and our old ops either don’t know or are in on the plan. The whole thing feels weird. Or Harry is bad and rainbow is being led astray. That is a possibility too.
@kuyagab4444
@kuyagab4444 Год назад
If the latter is to be case, it would be safe to assume that Ash, and Mira are the on holding Rainbow together.
@diooverheaven6561
@diooverheaven6561 Год назад
If we went simply on warcriminal operation ratio then nighthaven feels like the good guys
@arielle9933
@arielle9933 Год назад
Honestly, it would be super cool that the twist is that Harry is bad. If that is the idea, I wonder where they'll go with it in the storyline.
@AdderTude
@AdderTude Год назад
@@arielle9933 Harry is now dead as of the Y8 reveal trailer. The new antagonist, Deimos, is a former Rainbow Operator who criticized the direction Harry took Rainbow, saying that in Deimos' time, Rainbow was feared as a group of "apex predators" and that Harry turned the org into "the Ice Capades." The trailer ends with Deimos shooting Harry through the heart and walking away, after promising to take Rainbow down by killing the current Operators.
@arielle9933
@arielle9933 Год назад
@@AdderTude My comment was made before the Y8 trailer was released. Thank you for your reply nevertheless :)
@roseclaw13
@roseclaw13 Год назад
I love how it touches on Aruni want to be somewhere else but wants to be in the field more I feels she wants to be with Thermite but being useful and help people is more important at the moment
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
I want her to be with thermite :(
@TITANia69420
@TITANia69420 Год назад
Pulse was so salty about throwing that ace in Road to SI that he dumped Hibana and became Bisexual
@lenadimitrescu6044
@lenadimitrescu6044 Год назад
"Sorry, babe" 💀
@goatachi7223
@goatachi7223 Год назад
💀
@jacobwhelan45
@jacobwhelan45 Год назад
I didn’t think I cared much but I think it’s actually ridiculous where his character went since then, especially with how torn he appears in extraction over Hibana going MIA. Guess I care more than I thought
@redd3a7h47
@redd3a7h47 Год назад
@@jacobwhelan45 it’s so fisted down your throat like a step for “progress” that nobody wanted or cared about. Seriously, how many people asked for this? 0.
@aerydar
@aerydar Год назад
lmaooo what about their kid together?
@screendoor_
@screendoor_ Год назад
I’ve always disliked nighthaven since the beginning, but now I’m indifferent. I used to see them as the bad guys but now I see them the same as rainbow. I can also understand why each of the former rainbow operators left, and can’t be mad at them for doing so. Even though I still dislike Kali, my opinion has improved for her and nighthaven as a whole
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
Yeah I've started to feel the exact same way
@mr.cubano8081
@mr.cubano8081 Год назад
I still hate NightHaven, i fell they are destroying team rainbow.
@mr.cubano8081
@mr.cubano8081 Год назад
@@KudosR6 btw dude thanks for your content, I always love rainbow background story, and you are doing a great job. You should do a video about Six, because she just vanished from team rainbow from one season to the other..
@gigachad5908
@gigachad5908 Год назад
I love wolfguard
@10ones
@10ones Год назад
I don’t even know what nighthaven is
@DirtyWingGamingPRO
@DirtyWingGamingPRO 5 месяцев назад
The irony of team rainbow making pulse feel uncomfortable about his bisexuality.
@geograymon55
@geograymon55 Год назад
I can understand operators leaving Rainbow for personal reasons, but Nighthaven lore will always make me put my head in my hands. You're telling me that multiple of the worlds best of the best in counter terrorism left a special operations unit and went AWOL from their respective governments to join a private military run by someone who has shown that she is willing to sacrifice comrades to get the job done?
@blarghinatelazer9394
@blarghinatelazer9394 Год назад
Fuckin' preach dude. I hate Kali so damn much lmao
@stayso4py951
@stayso4py951 Год назад
Kali also uses money to achieve skills or inhibitions like the suit she uses in the tournament it is literally bulletproof and the wearer receives no shock and the suit absorbs it all Anyways kali is a wanna be anti hero
@CountChocula-on9ix
@CountChocula-on9ix Год назад
The whole nighthaven thing is kind of forced tbh and out of the blue. I just ignore it and play the game.
@smooth6837
@smooth6837 Год назад
I really liked the evaluations by kali. Team rainbow should re-asses their operators as well
@awesomearsam1890
@awesomearsam1890 Год назад
Harry can be pretty good at that as well
@CountChocula-on9ix
@CountChocula-on9ix Год назад
Let's be honest here the whole nighthaven shtick is forced and out of the blue. It's even weirder having them play together in the game. I get people wanted a campaign or something but they could maker a separate game for that.
@jotarothedixieboo3435
@jotarothedixieboo3435 Год назад
@@CountChocula-on9ixwell duh, ubi wanted to gain extra ESG scores
@cakez8044
@cakez8044 Год назад
Imma just need them to either make a series or start giving us more animated shorts cuz goooood damn
@elitemonica
@elitemonica Год назад
A CGI movie would be amazing
@jewelsvevo8153
@jewelsvevo8153 Год назад
Damn Pulse no longer being with Hibana means the heart charm I got from the 2019 Six Invitational Packs is incorrect
@WesternXC
@WesternXC Год назад
Pulse told Hibana to put her fingers in his butt and she wasn’t having it 😂😂
@tadmartinez4303
@tadmartinez4303 Год назад
I gave it to his new bestie ace
@stayso4py951
@stayso4py951 Год назад
@@tadmartinez4303 ace definitely can take 3+ ducks in his ass
@RembrandtRasmus
@RembrandtRasmus Год назад
@@tadmartinez4303 😂
@spiderninja_1
@spiderninja_1 Год назад
Kali used to be a bit of a villain to me, but now I’m seeing her in a morally gray viewpoint instead. All of the NH operators had something holding them back from reaching their true potential, and Kali was able to offer them a chance to finally reach that potential. As much as it may suck that some of the Rainbow operators left, I can’t deny that they seem to be happier in their new home. And on the other end, this is something Kali herself admits. She is driven by rationality. Kali wants people to reach their full potential, though it doesn’t mean she’s driven by empathy or selfishness. Diving more into her rational mindset, the way her recruitment worked was a way to *mutually* benefit the new NH recruits as well as her own company. Most likely, she saw these operators being held back by something and thought about how she could use this to benefit both sides, rather than just them or herself.
@joelrobinson5457
@joelrobinson5457 Год назад
Traitors are still traitors, breaking into someone's home and blackmailing them is something that crosses the line
@GetDougDimmadomed
@GetDougDimmadomed Год назад
Kali's a mercenary, which means she gets a much better hand to play. She can choose her assignments, rather than have a government entity telling her what to do. For that reason alone I trust her, even though she's kind of a bitch.
@blarghinatelazer9394
@blarghinatelazer9394 Год назад
@@joelrobinson5457 This, Kali's actions business-wise and on a person-to-person level are morally reprehensible and selfish. Imo.
@joelrobinson5457
@joelrobinson5457 Год назад
@@blarghinatelazer9394 agreed
@waywardhero1177
@waywardhero1177 Год назад
Pulse leaving is weird, he comes from a military background and had to breakup with Hibana in order to join nighthaven, I wonder if him, Hibana, and Osami have something planned
@Orciwan548
@Orciwan548 Год назад
I like your mindset but sadly it’s Ubisoft I doubt it’s that deep.
@AdderTude
@AdderTude Год назад
Yeah, but Ubisoft wrote his story so that he hated his military dad, which explains why he's Jack Estrada (his mom's maiden name) rather than Jack Peterson.
@danshaw99
@danshaw99 Год назад
so why join a private MILITARY @@AdderTude
@JudeOhHecc
@JudeOhHecc 11 месяцев назад
They made it an excuse for him to be gay. Shit ass game.
@british35
@british35 3 месяца назад
@@danshaw99Opportunity to stick it to his dad
@DonPatrono
@DonPatrono Год назад
Kali: "A distracted operator can't be expected to reach their potential" Meanwhile Ding Chavez: *watches as some IRA terrorists ambush and kill Rainbow's Team 1 and attack the clinic where his mother-in-law and his 9-month-pregnant wife work, specifically targeting and threatening to kill both women, and he still manages to commandeer Team 2 and lead a high-speed chase on a stolen Porche coordinating with Col. "Bear" Malloy, managing to arrest the leader of the terrorists* "Sorry can't hear you, much distraction, many obstacles"
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman Год назад
The virgin Kali "No distractions or you will fail" vs. the Chad Ding "They do not hamper me" Chavez
@enterprisecrypto2683
@enterprisecrypto2683 Год назад
Ding Chavez OG Gigachad
@kman1893
@kman1893 Год назад
Ding is such a legend
@EchoBoomer1987
@EchoBoomer1987 Год назад
I understood how freespirit Operators like Ela and Smoke could leave Rainbow. I know in the lore, the Russians threw a fit because none of them made captain, so Finka leaving is understandable. But what surprised me was IQ leaving and Pulse leaving with out Hiabana. Edit: I just saw a video, I think it’s in the new Nighthaven map. There is a recording Kali talks about Pulse breaking up with Hobana and confirming Pulse is bisexual which explains the responses to my comment.
@bigbrain2317
@bigbrain2317 Год назад
why’d he break up😭 and now he’s bisexual like the fuck ??
@thunderlord7321
@thunderlord7321 Год назад
@@bigbrain2317these writers are annoying they’re like “gay, gay, bi, gay, trans, gay”.
@bigbrain2317
@bigbrain2317 Год назад
@@thunderlord7321 no literally. they are trying wayyyy to hard to be "inclusive" we just want tactical ops that are realistic bruh. next op is gonna be morbidly obese to include body positivity.
@bennetth.929
@bennetth.929 Год назад
@@thunderlord7321 The vast majority are straight lol. Throw in 4 non-straight characters and yall act like the worlds ending
@Kilo_23
@Kilo_23 Год назад
@@bennetth.929 to be fair the games about shooting each other, sexuality and what the operators are attracted to/wana fuck shouldn't even be in the forefront, if they never mentioned it everyone could be hypothetically gay or straight and it really wouldn't matter at all...but soon as you start listing characters as this or that then your making your own problems not solving them.
@rsa.crabguy7583
@rsa.crabguy7583 Год назад
I barely cared about Siege's lore (because I didn't really think there was a lot of lore besides the surface-level stuff in game). But after your videos and your excitement, it's growing on me. I hope your theory video from a little while ago (about NH being set up by, potentially, the White Masks) is at least partially true. The NH operators have always had a bit of unruliness about them, Kali and Ace especially, but they get the job done, and they wouldn't have joined Rainbow in the first place if they didn't care about helping people.
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
I'm glad that my videos have helped, means I'm doing something right:)
@strawberrana
@strawberrana Год назад
That's not a bad theory, though I feel like all of the Nighthaven ops (besides Kali and Grim) don't really seem at all like they would associate with, let alone work for, terrorists
@rsa.crabguy7583
@rsa.crabguy7583 Год назад
@@strawberrana Sorry, that's probably poor phrasing on my part lol. I meant that they were being framed, not working for. I completely agree that they don't seem like they'd associate with terrorists at all.
@strawberrana
@strawberrana Год назад
@@rsa.crabguy7583 oh yeah agreed then, that would be an interesting way to bring back the White Masks as a threat
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Год назад
They don’t care about people, they do the job and get paid, rainbow fights because of the cause it was made for, counter terrorism. Nighthaven fights because they are hired and paid to do whatever it is someone wants them to, at the end of the day, rainbows deserters chose mercenary work over fighting for a cause.
@UnkleSanik
@UnkleSanik Год назад
Yeah it could be related to his daughter, but it could also be Six had a meeting with Smoke about reinforcing the Geneva convention that we do not know about.
@bandarsalh1338
@bandarsalh1338 Год назад
puls, a grown asss man, has changed his career due to sexuality this feels like a fanfic on tumbler who wants to be validated so fking hard
@MrDeathBoss
@MrDeathBoss Год назад
It's so curious that Pulse, the bisexual, left team rainbow. Haha
@Kaminex
@Kaminex Год назад
At this rate... I wouldn't mind a full fledged story campaign that costs $60. Like you get a story campaign that was tailored for each operator. Ye sure it doesn't sound feasible or would be possible with the amount of operators but a man can dream. PS. Keep up the good work. You are the necrit of r6 lore. Kudos to you!
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Год назад
That ship sailed 7 years ago dude.
@dj11o9er
@dj11o9er Год назад
Sailed ever since the writers ditched the roots
@TypicalCynic_
@TypicalCynic_ Год назад
The romance and drama going on with Pulse is just weird.
@alonelyperson6579
@alonelyperson6579 Год назад
I agree it feels random and very unecesary
@garrettswanson3435
@garrettswanson3435 Год назад
@@alonelyperson6579 I agree with you!
@Maximus0451
@Maximus0451 Год назад
It literally came out of nowhere.
@TypicalCynic_
@TypicalCynic_ Год назад
@@Maximus0451 exactly
@NohrScum
@NohrScum Год назад
Facts
@shiraori5450
@shiraori5450 Год назад
Kali's report on Aruni really highlights the issues with her leadership skills, yes she's good in combat, yes she's able to coordinate attacks, but she only sees people as property, "You had a falling out with your sister? Let's take you away, throw away the key and be finished with her." "Oh you poor thing, you're having identity issues? Well let's make sure you can't see the person you used to love ever." "Oh you made friends with people in a different military, welp you're mine so no defecting." At this point I believe if something were to go wrong she'd lose everything she "owns".
@droganovic6879
@droganovic6879 Год назад
I'm actually quite disappointed that Dokkaebi didn't join Nighthaven. Cause like Kali, i like her kit but i absolutely _despise_ her personality. And it'd be so much easier if all the annoying people were just on one team 😅
@stayso4py951
@stayso4py951 Год назад
So all shield ops
@penzesadam
@penzesadam Год назад
Kali only looks out for her own interests and uses ex Rainbow soldiers to achieve these. I trust that Ela is only there because of Harry's instructions and is spying on them.
@Shoot_to_chill
@Shoot_to_chill Год назад
I think lesions suit was in the night haven labs exo suit room bc he was a spy for team rainbow getting trained by zero and that’s why he is in ghosteyes
@dsantiago1000
@dsantiago1000 Год назад
Pulse: “uh yeah I broke up with hibana… oh and uh… I’m bi” idk if he’s supposed to be faking it or that’s terrible writing which isn’t uncommon for Ubi 😂
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Год назад
terrible writing, like most things ubi publishes today. Ghost Recon Breakpoint is the perfect example of a story with shitty writing and development.
@dsantiago1000
@dsantiago1000 Год назад
@@djtrac3r935 god please don’t remind me of that. I still have ptsd from fighting nothing but machines with poorly made class types
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Год назад
@@dsantiago1000 Breakpoint is only fun if you turn the drones off and don't play the main story. Other than that, the game is just tactical barbie simulator.
@Algebruh2407
@Algebruh2407 Год назад
I think that it is mostly just bad writing. Everyone knows that they get back together and have a kid, so it seems like more of either an undercover operation that he gave a terrible lie to cover up or Ubisoft is trying to do the fling trope that has been done to death.
@memecliparchives2254
@memecliparchives2254 Год назад
@@dsantiago1000 I mean that premise is fine, but Ubisoft screwed it up somehow.
@traysonplayzz9003
@traysonplayzz9003 Год назад
I loved all of the ops reasonings but elas was just so godamn simple and great lol
@PsychoSamaritan
@PsychoSamaritan Год назад
My money is on Pulse being an inside man for Rainbow. If memory serves, he had so much love for Hibana they even had a child together, I doubt he'd throw that away.
@kyteoaguon
@kyteoaguon Год назад
I was thinking something similar
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
They don't have a kid in siege lore
@PsychoSamaritan
@PsychoSamaritan Год назад
@@KudosR6 Huh. Noted.
@awesomearsam1890
@awesomearsam1890 Год назад
@@PsychoSamaritan don't worry, the lore you got it confused with is Rainbow six :Extraction lore. In that game which is not Canon, they are married and the lore mentions they have a kid
@redacexv5310
@redacexv5310 Год назад
@@KudosR6 They do
@Jaded1916
@Jaded1916 Год назад
Man, Idk why but Siege lore is always fun. Some points: It's quite strange how in R6 Extraction, Pulse and Hibana end up marrying and having a kid or two where in this timeline, they seperate (Everyone gotta do Multiverse now lmao) Fuze being interested but backing out is in a way, a good thing. it means that their methods either didn't align with him or maybe he's a double agent as some others say but I doubt it. If Fuze doesn't like nighthaven though, there must be a good reason, considering Ying hates him for his lack of care with Civi's. IQ Makes Sense tbh even though it was the one that surprised me the most in it all at the time. Lastly, I am a subscriber of the theory that the real double agent among them is actually Ela. It's such a simple reason for her to leave, yet in a way, doesn't feel right she did it now. I believe she is undercover considering her past showing she is quite the specialist like bandit, in terms of being undercover, perhaps feeding info directly to Harry, not telling anyone else save for maybe Sam. It will also be interesting to see if Nokk will back out considering Brutal Swarms comic
@Dude-do8vo
@Dude-do8vo Год назад
I actually heard someone that Ying misread Fuze...Fuze isn't that psycho apparently he also doesn't want innocent people die (but heard it a long time ago and only the fact that he actually has a consciousness stuck with me XD)
@dj11o9er
@dj11o9er Год назад
Fuze is a military man at the core iirc. He would stick with Rainbow AND the Spetsnaz, plus his best bud Glaz, over some PMC at least thats my take on it from foggy memory
@jacobwhelan45
@jacobwhelan45 Год назад
As I said in another comment, kinda annoyed what they did with Pulse. Makes it much more complicated to follow and no build up makes it seem so forced and out of the blue
@AdderTude
@AdderTude Год назад
Finka's defection will have to be addressed at some point down the road, considering she's back with Rainbow by 2025 (the events of Breakpoint's Amber Sky DLC). And since Operation Archangel from Wildlands is pretty much canon (unless they explicitly state otherwise), Ubisoft will have to figure out a way for Finka to be disgusted with Kali enough to join back up with Rainbow by the time she goes to the Auroa Islands in 2025 with Ash, Thatcher, and Lesion.
@Iminyowalls
@Iminyowalls Год назад
I like pulse's reason for performing good isn't "oh joining a new work environment really gave me the boost I needed." No, it's fucking "I broke up with my gf POG"
@awesomearsam1890
@awesomearsam1890 Год назад
That what makes him sus. a bs reason for joining while in reality he's just a spy for Rainbow
@stayso4py951
@stayso4py951 Год назад
@@awesomearsam1890 mf even looks like a spy
@owensalinas1646
@owensalinas1646 Год назад
That pulse one was goofy
@drillofthedeath879
@drillofthedeath879 Год назад
2:51 "Breaking up with Hibana" NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-
@horse1889
@horse1889 Год назад
People who are down bad: 😏
@lucasa.3189
@lucasa.3189 Год назад
-Make Rainbow pay you a fair amount of money to join them in -Take some of their best operators -Make Harry look like donkey -Refuse to elaborate further Kali, the true Gigachad
@nathantower5565
@nathantower5565 Год назад
-Get put in your place less than a year later Common Kali L
@bingus6437
@bingus6437 Год назад
-get ass beat by ash who is shorter -get kicked out of rainbow -everyone hates you for taking ops with you -get ass beat by rainbow in less than a year common kali L
@GordonFreemanFN
@GordonFreemanFN Год назад
I was destroyed when smoke left rainbow, my boy is now on the villain's side
@mrbuddha7575
@mrbuddha7575 Год назад
the whole reason pulse joined nighthaven is that he was salty he lost to hibana essentially
@AdderTude
@AdderTude Год назад
Given Breakpoint's timeline as of Amber Sky and her appearance in it, something will happen at Nighthaven that will cause Finka to go back to Rainbow.
@onji5213
@onji5213 Год назад
Oh lord I can already see the Pulse x Ace fanarts
@andrewcosta5001
@andrewcosta5001 Год назад
hope they are as funny as the Lion x Doc fanarts
@stayso4py951
@stayso4py951 Год назад
@@andrewcosta5001 they hate each other 💀
@andrewcosta5001
@andrewcosta5001 Год назад
@@stayso4py951 yup and some still make fan art of them as gay lovers
@kestrels-in-the-sky
@kestrels-in-the-sky Год назад
This is very much a side point like it’s related because Sam fisher is in rainbow but there’s a radio drama for splinter cell on the bbc this Friday
@dylantomlinson8164
@dylantomlinson8164 Год назад
I get his feeling that when we get rainbow six siege 2 in the future i think they are gonna give up this whole training ground and have it be like rainbow vs night haven instead of it being attackers vs defenders which could lead to new game modes like for rank if you die with an operator you can no longer use that op in that match going forward which could lead to some interesting plays
@louislee9544
@louislee9544 Год назад
I'm curious as to how these plot changes will be resolved in light of Extraction, which takes place in the future. To note, no mention of Nighthaven, Team Rainbow is still a whole, Pulse and Hibana had a kid...
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
Extraction isn't canon. Different timeline, writers etc
@awesomearsam1890
@awesomearsam1890 Год назад
Think of it as another universe. that game's world is completely separate from the main game
@TheShadowNetwork.
@TheShadowNetwork. Год назад
@@KudosR6 the better timeline imo
@DA_VU
@DA_VU Год назад
Pulse lowkey a L rn for breaking up with Hibana.
@La_Ke
@La_Ke Год назад
So what we learn from Pulse is that you get jacked when you reject women and let the homies hit
@commanderpjt
@commanderpjt Год назад
Honestly that’s how they made it sound. Show that to anyone that barely knows anything about the lore and they would think it’s a parody
@RexVergstrong
@RexVergstrong Год назад
@@ITriedI I mean, I'm bisexual but I love my wife. Being bisexual doesn't mean you cheat on your significant other. Maybe they made up and married.
@kingblackthorn4195
@kingblackthorn4195 Год назад
It’s liberating ya know
@WesternXC
@WesternXC Год назад
@@RexVergstrong you’re very lucky to have your wife. Most women wouldn’t date a guy who’s bisexual.
@Wolfy-qf5pe
@Wolfy-qf5pe Год назад
@@WesternXC Source?
@vkrs6048
@vkrs6048 4 месяца назад
Pulse confirms being bisexual made him more powerful
@chingas9378
@chingas9378 4 месяца назад
that's because bisexuals do +10% damage to everyone
@bookmaster621
@bookmaster621 Год назад
I see all of these comments about who could be a double agent but no one is going far enough. What if everyone is a double agent but they don’t know about the others in order to not break their covers?
@reubenpx1809
@reubenpx1809 Год назад
Pulse and Hibana could hv been a great dynamic duo for the end... Sad they developed his character poorly...
@JudeOhHecc
@JudeOhHecc 11 месяцев назад
Yup. Some woke bullshit.
@oscartux
@oscartux Год назад
Oop the siege lore gets spicier
@ItsLifeJim_VB
@ItsLifeJim_VB Год назад
I just still find it hard to believe that some of the highly trained military operatives from the most esteemed special forces across the world would switch to a PMC so quickly. A PMC that could very easily become a terrorist organisation at a moments notice. Ela has always been someone who thought and acted outside of what GROM wanted, her transition was no surprise. Finka doesn't make a lot of sense to me, seeing as she is Spetsnaz someone who is trained to be a strong and loyal soldier wouldn't break so easily. But CBRN operators humanitarian implications can always move someone towards a loyalty to people rather than a military or a nation. But this is russia we are talking about, a military that have loyalty DRILLED into them even outside of special forces. IQ is where I really begin to not get it. Tech was her incentive? Yet being GSG9 she has access to the worlds most advanced weapons and tech because thats what germany SPECIALISE in. It makes no sense that she would betray her country like this in pursuit of more tech. Pulse makes no sense. Betraying America, leaving his FBI job, and Leaving Rainbow all because of relationship issues? That makes zero sense, and I want to know the real reason he left. Smoke is an SAS soldier, the best of the best. But it makes some sense that he likes change, that's perfectly fine. But can a PMC who is all about playing outside of the books really help his daughter's situation better than the SAS? Hostage Situations are the SAS' top thing. Ever since Operation Nimrod (the Iranian Embassy siege) the SAS have shown their amazing ability to complete missions with great success saving lives. Surely if his daughter were in danger, those boys could pull her out of the thickest of trouble. But if Ubisoft want to do this I guess we cant do anything about it. But its just sad to see actual good military personnel that kept rainbow feeling like the organisation in Clancy's books, all of a sudden disappear from that organisation. Rainbow (to me) is the United Nations greatest and most helpful organisation, being able to best any terrorist, help every hostage, and keep the world at peace. John Clark made it that way, its what he wanted it to be. Chavez kept that dream alive. Arnot brought the dream back. And Pandey was able to bring those operatives closer, and show the new generations that teamwork is the ONLY way they were going to do their jobs. He showed them that understanding each other and their abilities was they key to success, just as we the players have to understand our pieces in the Rainbow games (Even before siege). The introduction of Nighthaven to Rainbow was already a dangerous and bad decision. Them leaving was good, but taking real soldiers with them, that takes down the very dream Clark had. TLDR: I like Rainbow, I like army, I don't like PMC. I like breaching and Teamwork, I don't like PMC.
@koenyboy500
@koenyboy500 Год назад
I agree completely with everything you said here.
@RoboticKnight0Z
@RoboticKnight0Z Год назад
What I think about NH is that their going to be the opposite of RB, not as villains but with more force in operation of search and destroy and killing the white mask but no rescuing civilians in danger also the white mask is non-existent but I think the white mask will let these two companies fight each other so they can strike the right moment when all their operators are tired or dead.
@svelt8336
@svelt8336 5 месяцев назад
Oooooh~ I seeee.. It seems that Pulse maybe trying to hook up with Ace, because Ace is a NightHaven team membeeeeer. Because that log about how Ace doesn't usually do anything if it isn't for his own Ego, Kali seems to be confused about how it doesnt make much sense why Ace was being so buddy buddy with Pulse since he has just joined, and not any of the others. And was confused as to why Pulse was so receptive to Ace. Maybe a new couple???!
@adrianatienza3483
@adrianatienza3483 Год назад
nighthaven is becoming a more amoral rival of rainbow than being an enemy. this makes it better imo
@andrewcosta5001
@andrewcosta5001 Год назад
I mean, if they became enemies to rainbow they would be considered international terrorists and not a private military contractor
@Oskar_.
@Oskar_. Год назад
All of my mains lol
@loganmorningstar9122
@loganmorningstar9122 Год назад
I'm still feeling kinda sus of Nighthaven. Idk, I just feel like something's kinda off with them?
@solomonthegrundit8737
@solomonthegrundit8737 Год назад
Same. I dislike kali an immeasurable amount. She talks about Ace's ego, but really it’s her's which she needs to keep in check.
@primej485
@primej485 Год назад
Because their purpose and vision seems to be misleading and if any, a bit confusing. As a private sector it doesn’t need a lot to be understood is that they need fundings; which also translates that they have no loyalties to any of their contact and contractor other than to themselves (they’re loyal to the highest bidder). Kali mentions a lot about charitable and philanthropic action and that they ensure safety while also on the other hand encouraging their ops to be bold and get things done by any means necessary. This dynamic view that contradicts each point just shows that NH is a very volatile organization in its core and the short on Azami’s release confirms how passively dangerous the organization seems. It takes deals without further concern of the consequence; in Azami’s case whom they sell their weaponry to, because as Kali probably would say, “their reason is not our interest”.
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Год назад
@@primej485 So nighthaven WAS the people who assassinated Azami's client?
@dj11o9er
@dj11o9er Год назад
@@djtrac3r935 From what I seen it was folks who had Nighthaven ordnance According to Kali
@primej485
@primej485 Год назад
@@djtrac3r935 well they're not directly the one but from Azami's trailer, they are somewhat responsible... and from the recent Solis' trailer, it is revealed that their "ordnance was stolen"... for a PMC with recent event of them getting their tech stolen, getting intruded, and somehow their leader (Kali) got took down in 1 to a whole battalion xD shit's funny
@FriedSpicyChicken26
@FriedSpicyChicken26 Год назад
Hibana and Thermite have a way better chemistry anyway, she even quotes him! I hope they improve on this relationship.
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
Thermite has an even bigger relationship with Aruni
@xyiux
@xyiux 6 месяцев назад
Thermite gives me aroace vibes
@Hamun002
@Hamun002 Год назад
well my Pulse and Hibana matching charms are feeling kind of awkward right now
@Dashlab_
@Dashlab_ Год назад
everyone seems to love osa, how interesting
@senorsoloq
@senorsoloq Год назад
Iq left so she can get her nades back.
@redd3a7h47
@redd3a7h47 Год назад
Really? Pulse? The whole reason pulse is troubled is because he’s bi, and the whole reason he joined is because kali was like “go for it”. Shit, expertly designed writing.
@callmemaybe1337
@callmemaybe1337 Год назад
Elite operatives, the best of the best, now behave like a bunch of highschool kids who are unable to suppress their emotions, for the sake of the case, and whine about every little thing. One of them is a hikikomori who was apparently being bullied in Rainbow Six, the other one has broken up with his girlfriend and decided to come out of the closet. Honestly, I feel like I'm watching a Netflix series.
@rennac3152
@rennac3152 Год назад
Can’t say the why matters as much to me. But to each their own. You’re either with em or against em now.
@MaestroVGM
@MaestroVGM Год назад
The one thing I feel forced is Pulse being bisexual. I'm all for representation but this just seems forced. Him being in a dark place due to his breakup is an interesting idea. But due to how it was put here it just feels like something that was only ever an event in Pulse's character history to reveal that he is bisexual. This especially sucks because the Hibana Pulse relationship was one of the deeper, more detailed ones in Siege lore, seeing it tossed to the side like this is disappointing. Just to make things clear I don't have a problem with Pulse being bi, I just don't think it was executed well from a narrative standpoint.
@WesternXC
@WesternXC Год назад
Let’s just call it what it is. It’s pandering.
@RyanMK666
@RyanMK666 9 месяцев назад
I know it’s all fictional, but wouldn’t leaving rainbow the way they all did be literally world treason given what rainbow is and stands for?
@petiteexplication6249
@petiteexplication6249 Год назад
So Wamai is the glue holding them together
@dj11o9er
@dj11o9er Год назад
By the way of the wamai dance
@ODSTlonewolf257
@ODSTlonewolf257 Год назад
Call me crazy, but maybe all the operators that joined Nighthaven are an undercover unit in different areas, IQ with the tech, Finka and Smoke in CBRN, Ela and Pulse with the core combat units, all to investigate whether NH is clean or not.
@andrewcosta5001
@andrewcosta5001 Год назад
I was thinking that, but why would Ghosteyes(Cav's team) infiltrate Nighthavens base to steal info when they had 5 people already on the inside?
@jesselambert6663
@jesselambert6663 Год назад
That sounds promising🤔 because all the agents are not just outliers but many of them have experience in infiltration.
@AdderTude
@AdderTude Год назад
Meanwhile, Fisher is practically forgotten, given the amount of resources he has with his group, Fourth Echelon.
@shaunbarber2325
@shaunbarber2325 Год назад
Conspiracy theory: Pulse is a double agent for Ash
@gabeargenti7931
@gabeargenti7931 Год назад
One of the ops that left rainbow have to be one for sure
@xyiux
@xyiux 6 месяцев назад
Real reason they left Ela haha relationship burned Finka we needed a excuse for her elite skin Smoke we wanted to reveal a sas members gas mask so you would watch the sisters cinematic Iq we needed a excuse on why some random new op gets a advanced version of her gadget Pulse haha relationship burned part 2
@Nathan-uc6rn
@Nathan-uc6rn 3 месяца назад
The writers took one of the only straight relationships on the team, broke them up, and made Pulse bi, which is even more ridiculous when literally ever lore entry we've seen about Pulse mentions how dedicated he is to his friends and family. These mfs really just hate anything that's normal huh?
@secondcoming9789
@secondcoming9789 Год назад
Pulse really found a way to switch teams while still playing both. Respect.
@Wayfaring_Stranger
@Wayfaring_Stranger Год назад
so OSA is the future... i see what you doing there ubi! 🙃 also pulse droping hibana for ace i can see that coming already 🤣
@MrTask4ce
@MrTask4ce Год назад
They're setting things up to eventually kill off some of the Operators for Siege 2. Theory.
@andrewcosta5001
@andrewcosta5001 Год назад
nah, unless siege two was like overwatch 2 and they carried all progress over, it would split and kill the community
@redthewifeyhunter4034
@redthewifeyhunter4034 4 месяца назад
I fucking laughed when Pulse’s excuse to join NH is because he broke up with Hibana. Dear fucking god who writes the lore?
@thehttps_dox
@thehttps_dox Год назад
me not knowing it’s a whole ass story line bc i skip the scenes 😅
@theninkyn0nk463
@theninkyn0nk463 Год назад
As an avid player from day one, I just can't be bothered with siege anymore
@AzureVoltic
@AzureVoltic Год назад
Bruh, what did they do to my boy Pulse??
@andrewcosta5001
@andrewcosta5001 Год назад
Felt emasculated by Hibana being a better op and decided to change teams, on two fronts😂
@Juiceboxhero9001
@Juiceboxhero9001 4 месяца назад
Hilariously, in the Arknights collab from a while back. Ela and IQ, got art in the style for the game for the event story but didnt get a playable unit Just thought that was funny
@jesselambert6663
@jesselambert6663 Год назад
Is anyone else getting the strong feeling that something else is happening behind the curtain? that neither Rainbow nor (most of) Nighthaven realise? Maybe a third-party pulling the strings pitting them against one another? I don't trust whoever is in charge of Nighthaven even if the operatives themselves don't know what's going on. Maybe we'll finally getting answer and hopefully they can pull the whole band together. Team up and take down the BIG BAD
@jonahalvarez4325
@jonahalvarez4325 Год назад
lol you guessed it
@e1eventy7t
@e1eventy7t Год назад
im sorry for cackling at pulse's reason, but that shit came out of left field after coming out of a field even farther to the left. "he wanted to leave because he broke up with his gf and now he's bisexual by the way". no hate, I don't belittle people due to their sexuality, but I do find it entertaining when a change like this is slapped onto a random character out of the blue with a dumb reason to boot-- particularly in the context of him and hibanananaana having a child together.
@Deku20235
@Deku20235 Год назад
Bwhahahahahaha pulse broke up with hibana and his bisexuality I am dying, this can't be real 😂😂
@KiryokuFR
@KiryokuFR 4 месяца назад
“Pulse broke up with Hibana and he’s bi” Everyone else: this is shit writing Me: Hibana’s single? 😏 (she ain’t real but damn she’s good looking)
@RXSlime-
@RXSlime- Год назад
If ace and pulse get together I'm out
@bettinman24
@bettinman24 Год назад
It's sad R6 went full woke I miss the early days with no agenda
@Wolfy-qf5pe
@Wolfy-qf5pe Год назад
A game about military fighting terrorists had no agenda, interesting take.
@dotnox5e
@dotnox5e 2 месяца назад
woke!!😡😡😡 woke woke woke🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😠😠 me see woke!!!!!!
@Maximus0451
@Maximus0451 Год назад
Yeah, we still don't know why IQ joined, I think the writers don't even know themselves lol
@jesselambert6663
@jesselambert6663 Год назад
My money is on either one of them or all of ALL of them!
@ryrysmom2004
@ryrysmom2004 Год назад
I’m calling it right here. Pulse and ace are gonna end up together. Everything happens for a reason and pulse becomes bisexual right as he becomes friends with ace, doesn’t seem like a coincidence
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Год назад
I've said it before and I will say it again, Ubi is making him bisexual to get attention from the LGBTQ community and so they gain traction in the media. Much like how Blizzard made Soldier: 76 gay for literally no reason whatsoever out of literally nowhere.
@WesternXC
@WesternXC Год назад
Ayo chilll 😂😂😂😂😂
@GetDougDimmadomed
@GetDougDimmadomed Год назад
Cap
@ecookie14
@ecookie14 Год назад
pulse being zesty is crazy
@ser-render-ser-vivor-ser-junn
Extraction shows that Estrada and Imagawa had a daughter together, so I wonder if this'll be the definite end of their relationship.
@TrexxReflex
@TrexxReflex Год назад
Thank you Kudos👍
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
Of course 🤝
@tylerhall158
@tylerhall158 Год назад
I would love to see a ghost recon operator they crossover all the time the ghost recon games, but why can’t they do it in rainbow?
@jairoulin6235
@jairoulin6235 Год назад
Cause we all know that ghosts outclass both teams just like Sam
@trebie5924
@trebie5924 Год назад
PULSE THE BICON WE NEEDED
@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477
2:58 nice
@iqshubbytrigger2958
@iqshubbytrigger2958 Год назад
Honestly if they're happy then im happy with their decision and respect them for it
@iqshubbytrigger2958
@iqshubbytrigger2958 Год назад
IQ happy makes all of us happy
@awesomearsam1890
@awesomearsam1890 Год назад
@@iqshubbytrigger2958 happy German woman Me happy
@WesternXC
@WesternXC Год назад
@@iqshubbytrigger2958 As a black man, I’m always happy to see my German women happy 😃.
@andrewcosta5001
@andrewcosta5001 Год назад
Except they committed treason by abandoning an international task force while still being contracted to their perspective military branches
@Wolfy-qf5pe
@Wolfy-qf5pe Год назад
@@andrewcosta5001 Oh no! Anyway...
@unknown_skull7605
@unknown_skull7605 Год назад
It's probably just some random coincidence but at about 10:20the guy that ela shoots kinda looks like lion with the mask he is wearing and the outfit as well but like I said probably just a coincidence
@yupitsvibe
@yupitsvibe Год назад
after listening to pulse and aces evaluation it sounds like the ace one is affirming they are starting a relationship between the two
@KudosR6
@KudosR6 Год назад
Idk, personally I see Ace as a straight guy with an ego but always fails to pick up girls, that's the vibe he gives me
@yupitsvibe
@yupitsvibe Год назад
@@KudosR6 it would make sense, but at this point it seems ubi is just changing ops we thought we knew before. not to mention its a way for them to keep making siege more "inclusive" but well see. p.s keep up the great work your lore videos are very solid
@mitchellucchino2078
@mitchellucchino2078 Год назад
Honestly curious if any of them are a double agent and undercover.
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