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We Found the BEST Sounding Honda Civic Type-R Exhaust! 

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If you are looking for the best sounding Civic Type R exhaust that you found it! The new VR Performance catback exhaust system for the Civic Type R FK8 is full titanium featuring a valvetronic design that allows you to go from quiet to race mode. Huge gains in HP and TQ, the exhaust features a brilliant ION plated finished muffler with 3 titanium tips that include the VR logo.
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@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
If you guys enjoyed the video, please SMASH the LIKE button! It helps the channel out tremendously and makes sure RU-vid puts it in front of other people like you! Thanks for watching!
@VivoY-cp1pn
@VivoY-cp1pn Год назад
Kirem keu si di
@VivoY-cp1pn
@VivoY-cp1pn Год назад
Padup peng bg
@Rliang7070
@Rliang7070 2 года назад
This vehicle will be my FIRST sports type car that I will buy in the future, I will save up for it 💵💲
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Awesome!
@tybarker5038
@tybarker5038 2 года назад
If I can get one, I don’t see why you can’t I believe in you
@yungstew3100
@yungstew3100 2 года назад
32k just work at McDonald in half a year you’ll be able to buy it
@coreyr1990
@coreyr1990 2 года назад
It's definitely a vehicle worth going into debt for.
@MustangRms
@MustangRms 2 года назад
I have one 2019 for sale in california
@joshb2386
@joshb2386 3 года назад
Does sound very good. Well done. Love a titanium exhaust
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 3 года назад
Thank you
@brodyglasgow3442
@brodyglasgow3442 Год назад
Just bought a 17 type r. Its wicked. I love it i would take it over anything else any other car any day.
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing Год назад
Let's go! Congrats on the new buy!
@italianmiltyfriedman6264
@italianmiltyfriedman6264 3 года назад
2019 type R - Greddy HG with RV6 catted downpipe, get compliments on the sound all the time
@italianmiltyfriedman6264
@italianmiltyfriedman6264 3 года назад
Exhaust in this vid makes the type R sound like an Impreza
@erikakristen9917
@erikakristen9917 3 года назад
my dream car tbh
@TrackRecord3455
@TrackRecord3455 3 года назад
That titanium exhaust system is hot looks awesome sounds awesome too
@clo289
@clo289 2 года назад
I love it. Sounds just like stock but a little louder. Nothing extra. 👍
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
We love it too, just a good amount of loud is always best! Thank you for watching!
@elboritorres7499
@elboritorres7499 22 дня назад
Ive been looking into 2020-2024 camry trd then the 2022-2023 hyundai elantra N then the GR corolla...i overlooked the civic type r and IT HAS EVERYTHING IM LOOKING FOR...its growing on me
@austinmuldoon9369
@austinmuldoon9369 3 года назад
I’ve never said “look at those mufflers!” Before today. Sick build 👍👍
@RevolveAuto
@RevolveAuto 3 года назад
Sounds great! I'll never get my FK7 sounding like this lol
@rezz5570
@rezz5570 3 года назад
will get*
@friendlygamers3642
@friendlygamers3642 3 года назад
Fk7?
@zachariahdouglas3024
@zachariahdouglas3024 3 года назад
@@friendlygamers3642 yeah it’s the hatchback spott
@zachariahdouglas3024
@zachariahdouglas3024 3 года назад
Sport*
@MOPAR_scatpack
@MOPAR_scatpack 2 года назад
FK7? lmao they still do the names?
@giganoob1968
@giganoob1968 Год назад
Had my vivid titanium exhaust installed today. It is soooooo sweet.
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing Год назад
Lets gooooooo
@giganoob1968
@giganoob1968 Год назад
this pipe sounds so good I don't listen to music in my car anymore, just the exhaust note. thanks for such a quality product, it changed the entire character of my car for the better.@@vivid_racing
@pro-motionmedia
@pro-motionmedia 3 месяца назад
@sivakumar103
@sivakumar103 2 года назад
In my teens i used to watch vivid TV. They werent doing cars back then. Nothings changed though. Good stuff.
@chowyy
@chowyy 3 года назад
wow! i ordered an exhaust from you guys 5 months ago, and you guys wont even give me an update. Ive called 5 times and every time you guys say youll ship it... What is going on?
@Downnoutcrew
@Downnoutcrew 6 месяцев назад
U paid? No way
@gamerdave7581
@gamerdave7581 2 года назад
My dream car
@tanichiro
@tanichiro 3 года назад
definitely sounds better than most aftermarket exhausts.. but still abit raspy
@sgsuck109
@sgsuck109 2 года назад
0:31 This guy is moving like he's straight outta GTA San Andreas
@sir_christmas_leopold_duckson
@sir_christmas_leopold_duckson 2 года назад
Would love to have one of these... if they weren't almost 50 f*cking grand.
@hdogg21
@hdogg21 2 года назад
Msrp right now is 30 grand, also 50 grand isn’t an end of the world price..
@sir_christmas_leopold_duckson
@sir_christmas_leopold_duckson 2 года назад
@@hdogg21 It's not an end of the world price, but it's definitely not worth it for what you're getting. At the end of the day, it's still a Civic. There's nothing special or luxurious about it to justify the insane markups.
@hdogg21
@hdogg21 2 года назад
@@sir_christmas_leopold_duckson Your partially correct, and I somewhat agree. But I see it this way, the Civic Type R is visibly pleasing and already has the aesthetic as a performance car. Only small changes are needed to make it sound and feel like one, just like the exhaust modification this video was presenting. These prices will maybe mount up to 2-3 grand, which I see all as worth it.
@roderickh04
@roderickh04 3 года назад
5:40 first time I’ve heard the vtec on an 10th gen
@jakedean8560
@jakedean8560 3 года назад
Barely
@speedisf
@speedisf 2 года назад
I got a 2017 civic type r sence brand new now has 62.000 miles and I pay it off in 2 years pay $46.000 !and still drives amazing great buy
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Awesome to hear that your Type-R is still performing well, if you need help on your build - feel free to reach out to us at sales@vividracing.com!
@speedisf
@speedisf 2 года назад
@@vivid_racing thanks I will
@shaldonjohnson375
@shaldonjohnson375 2 года назад
pick up mine for Christmas
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Awesome, I'm happy for you!
@gwappo4852
@gwappo4852 3 года назад
5:11 What it says in the Thumbnail, thank me later.
@danny_fk8
@danny_fk8 3 года назад
I think imma stick with my Tomei Type D exhaust on my fk8, this doesn’t really sound like the “best” exhaust to me ngl, but hey this is my personal opinion
@rjbriscoe860
@rjbriscoe860 3 года назад
Doesn’t the TOMEI drone like crazy though!? I’m stuck between J’s exhaust, tomei, and HKS spec L
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt 3 года назад
@@rjbriscoe860 Does a bear shit in the woods?
@DramaVII
@DramaVII 3 года назад
@@rjbriscoe860 bro it’s a civic, almost any exhaust is gonna drone
@rjbriscoe860
@rjbriscoe860 2 года назад
@@dre32pitt thank you for your contribution to the conversation
@rjbriscoe860
@rjbriscoe860 2 года назад
@@DramaVII the new generation of turbo civic’s aren’t like most civics. Either way, I prefer minimal to no drone regardless
@WG05gaming
@WG05gaming 7 месяцев назад
Now you made me want a type R now. Like I need it😆
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 7 месяцев назад
GET IT
@gtgodbear6320
@gtgodbear6320 Год назад
I wish I had the resources for the go-ahead to make my own exhaust. I have a very good idea. It should kill any drone and just have raw engine noise. The resonator and Muffler would be the same design. Design resonator with 2°-10° triangles with a baffled silencer design and the muffler with circular offset 2°-10° triangle baffled the whole length of the muffler to silent any drone. Put the inlet on one side and have to triangles offset to the opposite side so there's no direct line out the exhaust before the triangle swallow the Drone. Like a silent room.
@Niconico_t
@Niconico_t 10 месяцев назад
it sounds like cartoon bubble blowers at idle but still soothing
@NvSrAgE679
@NvSrAgE679 3 года назад
Oh I like that. Titanium that doesn’t sound too raspy. Was saving for figitsubu. But maybe not now… how much?
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 года назад
Yea $$$$
@NvSrAgE679
@NvSrAgE679 2 года назад
@@jimmysapien9961 just ordered one.
@sameermavi7503
@sameermavi7503 2 года назад
I have a civic but I really don't know that modifing exhaust gives me this sound. Love to modify my civic😍😍
@adamlassen1185
@adamlassen1185 3 года назад
Didn’t sound much different open and closed.
@dimitrismamatsis6496
@dimitrismamatsis6496 2 года назад
This is my dream car I own a 2007's civic and i also had a 97's Love this car and hope honda continues the civic model Only thimg i can say for the new exhaust is that it sounds lile an airplane during takeoff
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Hey Dimitris, glad you love the Type-R as much as we do! We must agree, the new exhaust sounds pretty good during takeoff. 😎
@subarujaygarcia8390
@subarujaygarcia8390 2 года назад
Don't have a honda but definitely looks super sick!
@Camhill182
@Camhill182 3 года назад
I REALLY like this exhaust. How bad is the drone with a catted downpipe?
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
The drone was not really existent!
@OMG_FK8
@OMG_FK8 2 года назад
Was sup Cam! Lol
@NvSrAgE679
@NvSrAgE679 2 года назад
I bought one Cam. Putting it on today.
@billybob765
@billybob765 6 месяцев назад
@@NvSrAgE679how is it?
@NvSrAgE679
@NvSrAgE679 6 месяцев назад
@@billybob765 I love it. I wouldn’t change it
@c.mokicks5461
@c.mokicks5461 2 года назад
Lol! Sooooooo GOOD! Still my favorite car and this exhaust! Sheesh!!!!!!!
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
We absolutely loved the way this car turned out as well, stay tuned for more Type-R content coming soon!
@paulstabin6233
@paulstabin6233 2 года назад
Sounds good. But there are at least several good options out there. My FK8 is still...stock. But I do like the idea of a valve switch. I would not want annoy my neighbors. If it saves weight and adds power as well - might be worth it. Drone would be a deal-breaker for me. So glad this exhaust seems to be better on that.
@diino978
@diino978 2 года назад
I’m now wondering how it’ll sound on my fk7 😩🔥 sounds sooooo nice man.
@Blake-ld7mx
@Blake-ld7mx 3 года назад
Man that things quiet
@GNP999
@GNP999 Год назад
Sounds really good
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing Год назад
We agree!
@OBSav
@OBSav 3 года назад
Js racing FTW
@BGcontentproduction
@BGcontentproduction 3 года назад
That’s a rly nice like ‘spirited’ noise
@repairaholic4858
@repairaholic4858 2 года назад
Beautiful car 💞
@thealexzandriaeffect
@thealexzandriaeffect Год назад
The closed valve… is making me feel things
@vedantraghunathan75
@vedantraghunathan75 2 года назад
This honda civic type r is for me but when i grow as a grown-up it should blue fire its own-nitro!
@kn19kn19
@kn19kn19 2 года назад
Just ordered mine and a PRL catted down pipe.
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Thank you!
@firegamermetal1071
@firegamermetal1071 2 года назад
Where to buy this? Tia
@speedisf
@speedisf 2 года назад
Wao amazing sounds 😍 👌 🙌
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
We agree as well, thank you for watching Ricardo!
@poulr1130
@poulr1130 3 года назад
Do you have weight? I’m probably gonna pick one up next year. I’ve been looking for a perfect mix of loud enough to have balls but not to loud to piss off neighbors. But having an active is the best of both worlds?
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 3 года назад
Will get that added to the product description this week!
@JJoslyn.Z33
@JJoslyn.Z33 2 года назад
The stick ain’t that bad too wow
@craigp4883
@craigp4883 2 года назад
according to the video, it sounds very similar to my HKS legamax.
@Yasin5791-d7u
@Yasin5791-d7u 2 года назад
This is what it should’ve come from the factory What’s the exhaust brand
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
This is our own VR Performance Exhaust system! The link is in the bio, thanks for watching!
@yoltsbp
@yoltsbp 2 года назад
Didn’t realize a stock type r is making only 260whp for some reason I was expecting somewhere around 270-280. Haven’t lined up with a type r but I guess I’d lay the smack down on one of them with my si pretty easily 🤨
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Our dyno reads a bit low, so a stock Type R would typically make around 270-280whp in rather good conditions. 👍
@TheFK8Life
@TheFK8Life 2 года назад
lmfao - a basic tune on an R will smack up an Si unless its got an upgraded turbo and FBO/flex fuel - full fbo e50 R is 430-450whp and demolishes every Si on the planet unless its got motec/full race turbo setup/full e85 fuel system which only a handful on earth do.
@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC
@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC 2 года назад
@@TheFK8Life bull**** walks 🚶‍♂️
@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC
@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC 2 года назад
@@TheFK8Life a kraftwerks supercharger rotrex kit with just FBO nets 400 to 440 whp on an 8th gen Si. Full turbo setup with lower compression pistons to go high on the boost will net you 600 plus whp on a stock k20z3 block Hell if you build the cylinder head to rev to 9000 and take advantage of the rotrex, you could see close to 500whp with e85. Insane amt of money though.
@TheFK8Life
@TheFK8Life 2 года назад
@@Kdubz_Auto_HVAC We are talking about 10th gen Sis and my R makes 434/417 stock turbo - Ill run a rotrex 8th gen anytime - going fuel system and p600 drop in this week - shooting for 520/490 on e45 Ive owned my FA5 for 11 years and my 10th Si for 4 years before buying my R I know these cars first hand - my R makes mlre than 400ftlbs at 4k rpm - let me know hoe much torque a rotrex Si is making at 4k lol
@akashiseijuro4817
@akashiseijuro4817 3 года назад
I wish You guys make a new exhaust for non sport hatchback
@tommy-jy5ig
@tommy-jy5ig 2 года назад
Similarly, back in the 60's colored guys would walk around with a blaring, 3 ft. long boom box on their shoulder.
@c4sb2008
@c4sb2008 3 года назад
Wish i could get this for my 2021 ex hatch
@slimv3.162
@slimv3.162 3 года назад
That's what the type r should sound like straight from the factory. Still not quite as good as stock veloster n but still sounds good.
@justpalms9978
@justpalms9978 2 года назад
How embarrassing comparing a Veloster to a anything type R
@slimv3.162
@slimv3.162 2 года назад
@@justpalms9978 I know it's embarrassing that the type r costs so much more for not much performance compared to veloster n lol
@TheFK8Life
@TheFK8Life 2 года назад
@@slimv3.162 Velocesters are slow - not even close to an Rs potential - its why they stopped making them
@yokochan_fk8
@yokochan_fk8 2 года назад
very cool! I want this🙌🙌 What should I do if I buy this in Japan?
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Hello, our guys here would love to help you out, feel free to email us at sales@vividracing.com!
@wickedgames8768
@wickedgames8768 3 года назад
I would just get one big 4 inch exhaust and throw it on there
@mkxiong6427
@mkxiong6427 2 года назад
I’ve been 1st on the waiting list for 8 months. Good luck on yours. Lmao.
@rinconhacker
@rinconhacker 2 года назад
Is he not running a catalytic converter? Isn’t that bad or som?
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Stock down pipes with cats :)
@jeremymowery9556
@jeremymowery9556 Год назад
I love mine best car I've ever bought I've only bought 1 car new before in my life it was a 2000 mustang gt I think this car would kill it 1/4 mile
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing Год назад
The Type R is legit!!
@andreweldridge9075
@andreweldridge9075 3 года назад
Thought I heard a lil VTEC around 5:44?
@ElChapoDel8
@ElChapoDel8 3 года назад
No, that doesn't even sounds near the best sounding civic type-r. The best exhaust setup for a civic type-r fk8 is Js Racing 70RS SUS with rv6 front pipe.
@humbletrends2937
@humbletrends2937 2 года назад
There talking about for government and public ear
@mahlok8210
@mahlok8210 2 года назад
Ni klu test dgn gr yaris terang kena tggal... Gr yaris padu
@DemonHunter0069
@DemonHunter0069 Год назад
Can't even beat a type r polo
@Mrhukaka88
@Mrhukaka88 Год назад
I feel loud although it's original exhaust. When cruising at high speed too booming noise into cabin.
@Hathhe
@Hathhe 2 года назад
This is far from the best sounding exhaust..IMO it probably places somewhere around the bottom. There are so many better options out there.
@runevidz3456
@runevidz3456 2 года назад
I have a Veloster N and it sounds exactly like this with my stock exaust,opened valves lool. It"s my first time watching Type R exaust sound vid too RIP, i feel ya.
@drewstopher6696
@drewstopher6696 2 года назад
What would you recommend for a deep sounding exhaust with minimal drone when paired with a downpipe
@Hathhe
@Hathhe 2 года назад
@@drewstopher6696 martelius, without a doubt
@terrys7680
@terrys7680 3 года назад
Granny shifting not double clutching like you should 😂🤣 Seriously tho that exhaust is sickk I’m gonna get a boosted blue type r soon and this is the exhaust I want!
@thinkforyourself5672
@thinkforyourself5672 3 года назад
Awe Touring, PRL Downpipe / frontpipe, PRL HVI Intake for me. And it's almost too loud
@bgarza18
@bgarza18 Год назад
4:17 for the aftermarket exhaust startup
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing Год назад
Chef's kiss right there!
@richardcassidy3148
@richardcassidy3148 5 месяцев назад
Hi What exact Exhaust system do I ask for when ordering and how much ? Lead time delivery to UK thanks Richard
@swervo1841
@swervo1841 7 месяцев назад
my friend nate has this car but it says si lol
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 7 месяцев назад
Flamed
@opadilla123
@opadilla123 2 года назад
A lot of nice exhaust systems have come out for the type r , the real problem is the DRONE
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Our custom VR Performance Exhaust system has little to no drone, it's hard to capture that aspect of the audio through a video! Thanks for watching.
@Barrettcoronalight
@Barrettcoronalight 2 года назад
Sold
@sabrina.pianist
@sabrina.pianist 2 года назад
When the VR with the closed valve came in???😗
@Fat_cicada12
@Fat_cicada12 3 года назад
I've seen so many stock type R's In my home town
@thefifthbelfry92
@thefifthbelfry92 3 года назад
Some people wanna keep it as OEM as possible
@carjuncky1
@carjuncky1 3 года назад
Ooooo boy!💥💥💥
@carest1983
@carest1983 2 года назад
Plan on getting the 2023 Type R. That exhaust sounds awesome..is the downpipe stock?
@phonglam4889
@phonglam4889 Год назад
Get your car yet
@carest1983
@carest1983 Год назад
@TP no..they want to mark it up 15-25k around here....if it doesn't come soon I will buy something different..thinking Camaro SS would be more fun anyway
@carest1983
@carest1983 Год назад
So yeah I bought a 2023 SS 1Le instead..Jordan getting to greedy with the Type R anyway
@KarinHonda
@KarinHonda 2 года назад
Triggered by him resting his hand on the gear..
@mickyo9223
@mickyo9223 3 года назад
It’s alright. I expected a better sound. Sorta feels late to the game tbh but I am glad that this a solution for some people
@YTkingcherry
@YTkingcherry 3 года назад
It’s not even late to the game…car is still fairly new especially to the states…car has been hard to crack too not a lot of ppl pushing much bc the after market is so limited on these FK8s and this might be my set up for my type r too
@YTkingcherry
@YTkingcherry 3 года назад
But nothing comes close to the AWE or rampage exhaust imo
@cybercityoedo808
@cybercityoedo808 3 года назад
@@YTkingcherry Milltek Non Resonated is better then both of those.
@Moonlight-hq3gi
@Moonlight-hq3gi 2 года назад
@yt 1234 why so honda's don't sound good?
@de-andrelindsay8796
@de-andrelindsay8796 3 года назад
Nice
@theariesexperiment4642
@theariesexperiment4642 2 года назад
I'm not sure 15hp is worth what that exhaust will cost you. I imagine it's wildly expensive. You'd be better off throwing a turbski on it. Imo.
@leonelsantiago9196
@leonelsantiago9196 2 года назад
Stock OEM EXHAUST sounds much better...
@fixxta-j
@fixxta-j 2 месяца назад
future car,🚗
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 месяца назад
Love it!
@bjornsama9649
@bjornsama9649 3 года назад
I have the AFE power Takeda. Only other exhaust I'll get when the time comes is 27won. Theirs is the "ONLY" full 3in exhaust.
@cybercityoedo808
@cybercityoedo808 3 года назад
Not true, Milltek Non Resonated is a full 3 inch and sounds way better then 27won.
@christiandevos9280
@christiandevos9280 Год назад
Foot off that gas when you shiftin boi
@gamegeekx
@gamegeekx 3 года назад
Turned into a car into a commercial plane LOL. Now you just need to add airplane wings to the side as a decoration and it's perfect.
@jomathanturbyfill4720
@jomathanturbyfill4720 Год назад
Does this exhaust require or need a tune?
@noahcharette6536
@noahcharette6536 3 года назад
How did you guys wire the system
@Riknos
@Riknos 3 года назад
they didn't it's a remote, look at the vid...
@promodelred
@promodelred 3 года назад
Was that stock exhaust modified? Sounds like res delete
@vedantraghunathan75
@vedantraghunathan75 2 года назад
Hi dan
@LCDsim
@LCDsim 3 года назад
Sound good but i love more my remus sound...
@tahjo7
@tahjo7 3 года назад
Drop the glove box, unplug the fake engine sound generator, 10 hp gained! I just want subtle gurgles honestly
@jimmysapien9961
@jimmysapien9961 3 года назад
Tru
@eljefe3993
@eljefe3993 3 года назад
Heads up brothers, please don't rest your hand on the shifter as it's not a hand rest, think about it
@davidjin8147
@davidjin8147 2 года назад
what wheel do you use? they look very clean ! what's the size?
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 2 года назад
Hi David! These are the stock FK8 Type R wheels!
@tegarthbishop34
@tegarthbishop34 3 года назад
Does it have drone cancel technology? It can sound great but drone is horrible, really annoying at highway speeds
@gamerdave7581
@gamerdave7581 2 года назад
Want to sound like an evo
@jovanniherrera615
@jovanniherrera615 Год назад
tbh sounds the same when it’s open or closed
@MATRIXS84
@MATRIXS84 3 года назад
Curious to hear it on a FBO catless type R🤔
@italianmiltyfriedman6264
@italianmiltyfriedman6264 3 года назад
I listened to a bunch while I was researching for my Type R and I truly think they sound better with a catted pipe
@k20a15
@k20a15 3 года назад
Catless is way to loud
@erickz118
@erickz118 3 года назад
Don't think this would sound too good Catless. Most exhausts don't, catted is the way to go.
@KoolMB
@KoolMB 3 года назад
I honestly hate how they put plastic underneath the cars now. looks dumb and makes under-car maintenance a pain. Ripped mine off before I left the dealer LOL
@turbo95eclipse
@turbo95eclipse 2 года назад
Congratulations sir...you just ruined some of your car's aerodynamics! 😂😅😂
@DavidAnderson-ge6tk
@DavidAnderson-ge6tk 6 месяцев назад
I can’t see link to buy I am in uk do you ship there 👍
@CAutomatic
@CAutomatic 3 года назад
This is what yall are doing while I wait 4 months just for my exhaust to ship from yall :(
@vivid_racing
@vivid_racing 3 года назад
Hello! Please send us an email or a phone call! cs@vividracing.com or 1-480-966-3040
@typerfk8
@typerfk8 3 года назад
I think this is ok, but Milltek Non Resonated is still the best in my opinion. Maybe can consider Remus if that is your preference.
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