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Seeing as you're going to modify the machine, I would suggest the first thing to be to replace the old limit switches for the faceplate. You never know when those feel like failing and new ones is a cheap life insurance
I'm not a machinist but regarding the manual handle that nearly took out your knee could you put a gentle spring with two washers that would eject the handle when not in use? A spring that not to strong to be annoying while holding in and spinning but enough to eject the handle.
As a now 71 year old ex Toolmaker from the UK I can only say you Sir are an exceptionally lucky boy, I worked one of these in the early 1960s, it is such a solid machine you will never be able to replicate it, so if it needs some restoration do the work, you will not be sorry.
Kurtis as a customer you just made my day. You stuck around and let the truck driver unload after hours. You didn’t goof around unloading. Way cool dude
That is a cool machine!The look on Kurtis’ face when talking about the handle flying across the shop “Ask me how I know” ! Lol 😆 Have a Good Day and Be Safe!
That handle could of been used for a vice and been hammered on by the looks of it looks very similar to was I use and do but ye same concept as a drill chuck drift been drilled into my head as an apprentice never leave them in there
LOL I'm only 20 seconds in, from the US, and my first thought was why is he going to talk to the passenger. It hit me right away. Bloody Ausi's drivin on the wrong side of the road.😅 I'm a welder/ fabricator and this channel gets more of my time than my girlfriend does. Love what you do here. You really know your shit.
You are really assembling a state of the art 1950's machine shop there! Nothing more satisfying than a good manual machine job. Any tech school grad can run a CNC, Takes a real machinist to do all the long hand math and setups.
Any Tech school Grad maybe can PROGRAM a CNC.. if you don't know anything about machining.. it is like giving a computer to a Monkey..Running a CNC requires the same skill as running a manual machine + programming the darn thing..
As a 70 year old from the UK, I can well remember using a K&W Radial Drill during the manufacture of diesel engines for UK trains. These drills were bulletproof, and I reckon you have a great machine there. Have a great weekend, and thanks Homey for giving it your seal of approval.
@@Gorbyrev The one that had the K&W was a Company called Deep Sea Seals, they made high pressure shaft seals for submarines, that was the first time I had to sgn the Oficial Secrets Act :) :)
Hi I hope the following information help you with the machine. It was made by A kitchen & D walker ltd of hexagon works peloton lane Halifax Yorkshire. The company was established in 1961 and this is one of the first machines they made year 1961. John brown & co sold the Halifax machine tools business to James.H. Vickery 1980s. It is a fantastic machine. Other information regarding this machine can be found at. Grace,s Guide To British Industrial History there is a file on it. Hope this helps you take care.
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering I used to own the Halifax Factory that this machine was made in ,we used to do steel fabrications in that factory .Kitchen /walker .Kitchen /Wade was very well known in Halifax
I didn't realize you could broach key ways with a face milling machine , but you are a talented man. It's good to see people are still honest and human when they make mistakes. As always, Curtis, I really enjoy your videos. I think that my sons and i have watched all of them as a matter of fact!
I love these videos showing older machines and they're history. These machines just give a sense of pride that you don't feel with newer machines. Like the hand drawn schematics and all that It'd be cool if they had a little history book with them saying what companies previously owned them and what kind of parts they made PS I think you guys are doing awesome things for the machining world by showing all this stuff and in my opinion you have made the best machining channel on RU-vid
Hi folks. I ran a machine much like this years ago. It was mostly used to machine the intakes and exhaust of 48 inch, 40 ton natural gas pipe line compressors. I believe the chuck/table was a round 55 inches with the bed in the floor. I don't remember who made it but it was capable of 1/2 thou accuracy. What a beast it was. What a blessing to have the written material along with it. Seeing this first setup I can see why you picked this one up. It is pennies spent compared to a new one. I wonder if they still make a piece like this. The table was fixed and the machine itself ran on rails in the pit below. Much like a vertical mill/drill they had. 50 years ago it was a tape machine that had an one inch perforated paper tape. Led's were in it's infancy. I sure looking forward to seeing it on a production type job. Thanks a bunch Kurtis. Take care eh.
I love how this starts. The last time I had some equipment delivered to my home shop (in a standard neighborhood) it arrived at about 2 o'clock in the morning and took an hour to unload with the diesel rig running the whole time. Neighbors were thrilled.
Just proves you got the wrong neighbors. I would have looked out the window and exclaimed, ‘looks like Charles is getting a new toy’, thrown on some clothes and ran outside to check it out.
Thirty years ago, I worked around machines of that size I barely knew what they did. Now I know what they do, but I'm retired, dreaming of the old days. You've got some really excellent old machinery that shows its quality by the very fact it's no less productive to day as sixty years ago. I really enjoy seeing the quality of work you regularly do. Thanks!
It's cool watching you guys expand over the last year when I first discovered your channel. I'm not a machinist but I've always been fascinated with all types machines, the skilled tradesmen that master them, and guys that keep them running like myself.
Built back when they made stuff the last. That's one of the reasons I like my old machines. Keep up on the maintenance they last forever. Have a good weekend guys see you next time.
But how can it work without a cloud subscription? And where is the supplier contract for servicing? What about bi-yearly mandatory electrical inspections? Software updates? How could it possibly work!?
The absolute best in videos for us, thank you ! The historical significance of the machinery, snack time love for the pet, the sincere laughter of the loving companion 💝💝💝💝
What a beauty, I operated and set up machines such as yours Horizontal Facing & Boring machines along with universal boring machines during my apprenticeship at HM Dockyard Devonport. I was trained as an Engine Fitter and Turner. They were my favourite machines to operate, and I got as much enjoyment out of them as I did operating centre, capstan and turret lathes. Sheesh your machine takes me back 52 years. Once you have set this machine up and ironed out any issues, I am sure it will serve you well.
Absolutely love how you keep bringing these old workhorses in to do the jobs you need. Very much looking forward to the series of transformations you have planned.
Kurtis, you must have balls of steel and nerves of ice to move such huge machines so well. I've done this work and am always impressed at how smooth and simple you make it look. Excellent rigging every time.
That is very nice machine, I can tell it has been taken well care of, looks like a 1960’s era, that’s when machines were built tuff and heavy, started my shop in 1968.
Hello from Anstead, Brisbane Curtis. Glad to see old machines being appreciated, used and admired by all. I have a 1963 Colchester 3 phase lathe with all of the attachments. Everything in perfect working order. I like my machine very very much.
I started my apprenticeship in '65 and I'm still learning about British machine tool manufacturers, Kitchen and Walker is a new'un on me although I have heard of Kitchen and Wade. A few years ago I was up at the Middleton Railway in Leeds and saw a Swift lathe {Halifax) also a lathe made by Sentinel (Shrewsbury) who are best known for steam waggons and railway locomotives. Got to respect a bloke with the bottle to admit to dropping a bollock on the internet. All The Best from Somerset, England.
@@brucepickess8097 Think of an artist playing his violine. Ease of use also not so good. Needs practice. But after learning to master his instrument, the artist will deliver the most beautiful works of art. :)
13:52 easy fix for this: Add a spring which pushes the handle off the head if you don't press it down. This way you will never leave it there, as it will just fall down :)
Have worked on a identical machine for about five years when employed in an engineering workshop. Behind that tool mount on the face plate there is a quill with morse taper up to 5 morse with a power feed on it used for boring smaller diameters.
It shows the workmanship of those machine makers from the 50's and early 60's they made them to last they're 60+ years old and with proper maintenance will be here in another 60+ years amazing machines
My home town has produced many killing machines (aka lathes, borers etc) over the years but with its spinning and flying handles this appears to be one of the finer examples.
As I watched the description of this machine, it became obvious that it has the potential to kill or cause serious damage if you make a tiny mistake. This machine could never pass any safety standards review under current safety regulations. But she is a beast.
That's fancy looking old machine. Gonna be interesting to watch the modification process. Have you ever considered playing around with Arduino's? (Lego for micro controllers) Potentially, and without too much effort, you could use one to drive feed servos you're going to install which would mean you could automate some of the processes. It would only have to stop at the end of some operations to manually change out tooling, but for things like boring, where multiple passes are needed, potentially you could make it "set and forget". Locking off the axes though, might be a bit of a trick. (maybe small servo driven locks?) Automating single processes wouldn't be much of a time saver, but if there are common dimensions, you could save profiles. Perhaps with some input menu to set zero offsets. On a side note, it's very refreshing to hear someone say "I smashed a tool bit" or "I sent it the wrong way" followed by "I drove the tool...", rather than things like "It broke the tool", "It drove itself into the job", "It went the wrong way". People will argue that "It's just a turn of phrase" and that there's no difference. There is a difference, and it speaks volumes to the character of the person saying it.
Love your videos, and the bloopers obviously. A quick safety add-on for the feed and traverse issue. You can add 2 microswitches to the feed lever and 2 led rows on the in and out lines under the buttons. This way, the right row illuminates according to the lever's position. Thus, putting an end to the inserts chips flying around the shop.
Forgot to mention in my earlier comment.When doing the mods to the machine ,you may want to think about installing a dc injection braking unit to the spindle,it seemed on the video to continue to turn after hitting the stop button,just a thought.👍
@@brucepickess8097 you'd be surprised how many modern CNCs and stuff don't have a spindle brake after an estop..most of the ones I've run use a controlled short to the motor to stop it, once you e-stop the electric is cut and it drifts to a stop instead of actually stopping.
I considered adding a braking mechanism to my SawStop table saw, but abandoned the idea when I realized that it might cause the blade's fastening nut to unscrew itself (with unpredictable but certainly bad results :-). So, be sure that any braking can't cause a similar problem for this machine.
That machine was really well made. The fact that it's still working is evidence of that. They made things to last back then, not like now that things need replacing at short intervals. It will be interesting seeing the modifications you make to the machine to suit your requirements.
I've been reading some comments on the schematics and manuals Curtis found. Such items are often invaluable treasures for such an old machine, but also fragile! I'd urge you, Curtis and anyone who has such things, to get them professionally scanned and a work copy printed. Put the originals in a safe place! Maybe send a copy of the scan to Keith Rucker at Vintage Machinery too.
Great content again guys and what a fantastic old machine and in perfect condition. Being from the UK it gives me a sense of pride that a lot of engineering machinery was manufactured here back in the day and is still going strong nowadays. It’s such a shame that we virtually have no manufacturing industry left in the UK but at least the stuff that is out there is still going strong. My Grandad worked in Coventry at a firm called Alfred Herbert’s making lathes and milling machines in the 1950s until the late 70s. As a youngster when I stayed over with him and Grandma he would get a massive world Atlas out and show me where some of the machines he built were sent to. I was absolutely amazed and couldn’t believe a machine that big that Grandad had help make was going all those miles away - happy memories. Keep up the great work and videos Kurtis, Karen and of course Homeless you are my Friday morning fix here in the UK along with a cup of coffee before work 😀👍🏻
You might want to ponder WHY British industry has been decimated and perhaps do something about it.....it would require a radical overhaul of the country and the first positive step would be to get rid of the Windsors who have reached their sell by date.The newspapers are FULL of crap about these idiots.....they contribute nothing and simply leech off the economy.
We are using those machines still in reduction gear housing production. For parallel axis reduction gear almost all machining is done on one of these machines, including bearing positions, grooves, facing and fastener holes, usually without even repositioning the part.
@@garyhost354 The problem is deindustrialization under successive conservative/neoliberal governments. Don't be a chump and blame brown people lower on the social ladder than you; that's what they want. You need to be blaming those at the top.
@@hayleyxyz You a clear on the point, bankers and investment gurus do not care about a country´s wellbeing and don´t know a bit about production or even manufacturing - take a look at the Boeing-Desaster.
Mr. and Mrs. Curtis, you satisfy our desires each time by performing and then outperforming yourself in these videos. Machines, just like a child's toy, ought to be played with. Thank you for the great job.
You find some of the coolest toys. I see them and I'm like "I want 1!".. just 1 problem. I'm not a machinist. Never done anything like that and wouldn't know what to do with it, but I still want one. Don't think it would fit in my 216 square foot little tiny workshop though.
I enjoyed this video immensely. Your presentation skills are first class. The lady doing the recording and editing deserves a medal. Well done to both of you.
Reminds me of the great machines we built here in the US to build the many, many parts that won WW2. Some of them are still running today and are prized for the jobs they do. They aren’t computer controlled but in the hands of a skilled machinist, they can make just about anything. Sadly, we don’t make anything like them anymore.
If you go to a workshop in the uk where there's heavy machines and blokes in brown cotton smocks with a selection of well sharpened pencils, a good quality Parker pen and a 6 inch rule in the breast pocket, you can guarantee they're doing good work, almost certainly work very few people can do. Still plenty of places like that, though they are becoming less common, sadly. Even before the war these guys were producing excellent products on machines most of us would struggle to name, let alone run. The industrial revolution is fascinating and something worth every moment learning about i reckon. I easily get lost for hours learning about the history of machining and industry in general
Recall seeing a massive Farrel machine (told it was made in the US) hobbing a crankshaft out of the biggest block of steel you could imagine. Block of steel was fixed, tooling rotated around the workpiece, so much swarf they used a garden rake to pull it away. Once all the throws were cut on the flat, they clamped the block, heated the main bearing areas and rotated the big end to form the correct angle for the crank.
Long time ago produced parts for ROLLS ROYCE diesels,worked on parts with 5 thou tolerance on parts 36" diameter,no optics,no digital readout.I thought this was history,till working in an different engineering industry, service call on hydraulics, there were 10 of them in a line.Manager "what's up " looking at machine at one machine.I used to work in that.That was 40 year's ago.One of the tool slots still had a" indentation" I caused.Still working to same tolerance.Time to retire.
I think you'd be surprised how many of those old machines are actually still working. Probably closer to 80%. I have 4 of them in my shop all from the late 30s through the 50s. The two lathes I have can out do most of the machine shops in my area with newer equipment when it comes to machining long lengths without cutting a taper. South Bend lathe Axleson lathe Carlton drill press Bridgeport knee mill
While I laugh at the out-takes, I am in awe of your skills, expertise and professionalism! Hey Karen thanks for capturing all these great videos! Looking forward to more and more…..Regards from Banana-Land….
Nice little item! I look forward to seeing it in action. My grandfather was a machinist, as was my late wife's father, and I can imagine them working with machines like this! Amazing what one can find for sale out there in the world!
I love looking at these old machines I work in Sheffield uk and there is a lot of metal working shops and can see the old machines still in use when they have the shop doors open on a warm day 👍
So, it's a video about some old machine and 98% of the people watching it will never be even close to a machine like that, BUT it's very interesting to watch and the explanation how the thing works is clear and to the point. So, great video! Thanks!
That is a fine and cool old machine. I look forward to see the tooling and modifications you make. Also I look forward to a good laugh of Friday's, you never let me down and make my day.👍
Ran three horizontal borers for a company making cat loaders and graders. Very versatile. The Kearns had 14 ft left to right travel, about 6 ft vertices and about 5 ft in and out. It had a 5" quill that went out for ever. It had an early dro fitted on the three axis. Totally manual measuring on the quill. One job was cat 950 bits. front and rear frames and lift arms. We made a massive "fly cutter". Actually a 30" disc about 30mm thick with insert holders bolted into a pocket. Great for facing down between brackets like steering ram faces and loader arm bosses to width. Could cut on either side and down about 12" behind a member. Like scratching your back, hard to reach spots! Good luck.
You always bring something new to the table and that machine is at the top of the list. That boring bar that you made is scary as hell. Can't wait to see the additions and mods that you intend to make.
Metric v imperial. Whilst serving in the RN, the two most popular measurement systems were the Firkin and the BSH, both had 2 units, ie, the Firkin came as Too Firkin big or too Firkin small. The BSH translates as British Standard Handful which came as a Slack BSH or a Tight BSH. Both applied to anything.
Gday, what an absolute bargain, definitely a big asset and the results from the test cuts are very promising, I’m keen to see the modifications, awesome video as always mate, have a great weekend, cheers
Hey mate we are happy to get our hands on this old girl, can't wait to put it to work. Karen also says great work on the editing in your new videos! 😎👍 Chat soon mate
What a deal you got, back in the day they really made things to last and it shows, real quality and after your modifications and updating it will be priceless to you I'm sure. Congrats! Javi G.
Very handy machine. I used one for machining castings/fabrications. Boring, line boring and turning short shafts on the castings. The table is great for jacking and setting up so you an clean up all faces.
Worked in a cable making factory for 18 years. The place opened in 1950 and the machines they used were second hand back then. They were still using them til the factory closed in 2016. Bloody good quality workmanship from the get go. Love the videos and the way you "say,show,do" is really informative for the likes of myself who has no experience of your industry. Good luck guys. Keep them vids coming 👍
Nice, love the old timey control style with feed and rapid on the same buttons but backwards, makes it way easier to create a good machine crash video. One thing that I've seen done is to put flip up safety covers on the buttons, that way you can just have one button uncovered and it would be the right button for both infeed and rapid out.
A wonderful story about this machine. Kitchen & Walker was a company in Halifax, West Yorkshire specialising in precision engineering machines. I grew up no more than 150m from the site of the original works and still live in the area. Members of the my family worked there in past years including my wife and mother.
Really enjoyed the vid - thanks. $4000 AUD is fantastic value in so many ways: * New (British 😎) machine for the workshop. * Vids of the various modifications. * Vid of the Hydroptic jig borer in action. The anticipation for this vid is immense 🤤 All the best, Paul
Love your channel, provides me with pleasant escapes from rough times. Lightens the atmosphere by your easygoing natures. Calms the sense’s allowing for ability to be mesmerized by the multiple talents you have in machine operations and repair knowledge. Filming is expertly performed, director is fabulous, and editing is a remarkable work of art. Well done, your all appreciated, I make sure I watch all ads all the way through, and not skip them. Great job!
Interesting borer. Had friend who was scapled by 1. Lots of respect and no rush with this machine. There were more than 8 borers in machine shop. Never operated 1 but liked the table borers best.
Hi Kurtis! I suggest you another mod to this machine. Changing the electric motor who feeds the "spindle" with one with brakes when you press the stop button. The fact that is continuing to turn when you stop it is giving me anxiety 😃
Hearty Congratulations on the acquisition, Mate! Love to see owners investing in their business to augment and expand their capabilities and services! Cheers from Up Over!
That machine wants to be fed! Another interesting video. Really appreciate you reminding us in the United States that Metric really is simpler, more precise, and easier at EVERY point in the shop, on the machine, and under the bonnet!
I haven't looked yet and I see no links, but I do hope that there's are videos of you giving this machine a good clean and going-over and of of you working on those 'modifications' and making the tooling somewhere. Great content as always.
great machine.something rare these days ,you dont see "made in england" much anymore.built to last a lifetime this one.great chomping sound from homey getting his treat.haha.all the best.
Cool addition to your workshop. That switch panel looks like it could do with some mods when you are rebuilding. It's probably worth adding in a couple of cutoff switches to prevent power feeds from turning on while the handles are engaged. I've seen it on some machines and always wondered why something so simple and easy to do isn't done by all manufacturers.
yes i said the same. but may need to change feed motor to one designed to use a freq drive.need class F or H insulation . the current motor will work but if you go low freq it may burn up.
Thanks again for introducing us to a Classic piece of heavy iron! Once again, a lesson in problem solving as it was done 75 years ago. Your technical explanations are great!
I am a retired guy, who thoroughly enjoys your channel,- the lady you and the dog. If i had opportunity, I would have become a machinist. I have been in newspapers all my life, so I have always been around BIG machines.
Love your vids mate and pragmatic approach. There's a lot of old pommie machinists going around minus "bits and pieces" that used this old stuff and invariably you had one guy that ran the same machine for years as there was a "learning curve". I would say a small PLC and sensors could and would prevent "righting off" anymore inserts etc. Directional interlocks etc would be simple to program in to avoid "operator error"! Failing that be just like "old Harry" served his time and retired on the same machine. :-) Missus does a great job too and only laughs in the edited bits!
Kurtis this new series sounds very interesting. Great content. The design, fabrication, and modifications of an old machine to perform new operations is very interesting. I always cringed when you use the line borer on big pieces. The extra time and wear and tear on the power driver must be hard on the bearings. The blooper out takes are the best!
Just made a tailstock chuck 'like yours', and a lathe mill set-up, BUT making NOTHING like one of them. You have a wonderful following here, laugh with them on their input. A joy.
I've always loved the line borer segments but am so looking forward to seeing this unit doing similar work. Really engaging installment, congrats and good luck with it! Excellent call to not make the table feed reversal fail an outtake - testing is all part of the process and you'll not make that mistake again.
A week of learning for young Karl! (Just blame everything on Karl when it doesn’t go right). This is probably another reason why Kurtis and Karen haven’t hired anyone, because I would have tried to see how far I could launch the handle. Great video y’all.
I truly understand messing something up when figuring out a machine you have never seen or used before. Many years ago, I bought a Warner and Swasey OAC at an auction in Sydney for $200 and had to figure it all out with no manuals at all, the first part I ran in it was a 300gm Brass elbow billet, at 3000 rpm, it moved in the 2 jaw chuck, and before I could hit the emergency stop button, it came out of the chuck and blew a 1 foot round hole through the perspex door and hit me in the shoulder, damn lucky it didn't kill me, but I mastered the bugger in the end and had it doing exactly what I bought it for, I even picked up a 2nd one. 😁
Having watched this vidoe for the second time, it was like watching a giant horizontal fly cutter. Similar to the adjustable one you use on your mill that had a lot of noise from it's gears. I know you did a brilliant job of attempting to rectify that, and to some degree you did. That is quietend it a little. I love how you are utilising machines of a by gone era and letting them breath again.
For the confusing button issue, make a two sided plastic instructor to between the two buttons (due to the emergency stops, probably 1/2 circle cutouts on each side of a strip). One side in big letters says FEED and the other EXTRACT with big red and green circles. Flip as required for each operation while learning.
Or better still just simply disconnect the rapid function from the buttons when machine in feed mode and rewire the circuit to 2 new buttons seperate from the originals to stop alot of grief.
