We Killed The Multiverse

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Hey, how ya doin’? I hope you’re doin’ well. In this HiTop Films video, HiTop discusses how our fan expectation and nostalgia has begun to destroy the possibility of seeing good Marvel Multiverse, DC Multiverse, stories. We Killed the Multiverse. It all started with Spider-Man No Way Home, an innocent idea of doing what we have dreamed of, bringing Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield, Tom Holland together. Maybe it started with Spider-Verse before that.
Now, that innocence is now gone, lost. With The Flash being a Beautiful Lie filled with horrendous soulless cameos, Multiverse of Madness barely working due to the soul of Sam Raimi, and the future looking ever so predictable, why don’t we dream bigger.
I guess this is a HiTop Films Spider-Man Video, a Spider-Man Video Essay. Or Maybe it’s a MCU Video Essay. Maybe a DCEU Video Essay. I dunno. The point is something needs to change. We need to start dreaming bigger.
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Hey - 0:00
Why Does The Flash Movie Have No Flash Villains? - 2:59
Why is Tom Holland’s Green Goblin, Sam Raimi’s Green Goblin? - 4:15
Why, in the middle of a Doctor Strange movie about trying to find happiness, is Patrick Stewart there to get his neck snapped? - 6:39
Why do we keep traveling through the Multiverse, yet see nothing New? - 8:41
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@HiTopFilms 9 месяцев назад

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@HishamA.N_Comicbroe 9 месяцев назад

@@chillstorm2341 Nah let him get the bag

@VonJay 9 месяцев назад

Are "We the problem" as in Disney is a company that utilizes Research groups and committees that honor the wishes of fans? Because I think it's a combination of that, and fans not being good writers, while also the lack of creativity at Disney since Disney didn't create the infinity saga. Infinity Stones for instance is one of the best themes or devices in storytelling history. It's a caper on a cosmic level. Just like there are ideas in Star Wars, The Matrix, even Indiana Jones that come around a few times a century. So I think the biggest issue with disney is their reliance on fans, not knowing what themes work, and Disney's lack of creativity which really centered on their wish fulfillment. All they need to do, imo, is return to traditional storytelling in that a story or a film is really the artistic expression of an individual. And not the most requested item on social media. The biggest problem they'll face is the fallout from the expectations they engineered through fan service over the years. But they'd overcome that by getting back to the basics and just hiring good writers and directors.

@Robin_Is 9 месяцев назад

Ok.

@tachytack 8 месяцев назад

sellout.

@rockstar-made 9 месяцев назад

"AI generated Andrew Garfield" oh god we're so close to this it's terrifying

@IdentifiantE.S 9 месяцев назад

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@tonygoodwinjr9293 9 месяцев назад

Soon, studios are only going to pay actors once for their likeness & then just put them in with AI. But before then, well have AI written scripts...

@zaksharman 8 месяцев назад

This won't happen that's why the SAG AFRA strikes are happening@@tonygoodwinjr9293

@DARESTDEVIL 8 месяцев назад

Star Wars is doing this right now, lol. AI Luke skywalker. It is pretty chilling

@mr_lagerkvist 9 месяцев назад

Willem Dafoe’s Green Goblin is so badass that he keeps killing off Spider-Man’s closest allies even DECADES after his demise.

@rockaveli1013 9 месяцев назад

the only allie he killled was aunt may.

@EternalNightingale 9 месяцев назад

Bro literally woke up and chose violence

@matityaloran9157 8 месяцев назад

Agreed.

@flamesofchaos13 8 месяцев назад

They got lucky once...Not twice.

@blue_ig1 8 месяцев назад

Comes into the mcu Kills aunt may Fucks up his life Leaves

@izrael820 9 месяцев назад

The whole intro is why across the spiderverse is doing well. Utilizing the culmination of all these great stories to tell a deeper over arching story that brings decades of writing and character development into a utter masterpiece. Maybe it's because we riot if you BOMB a Spiderman film or maybe Spiderman is just thay great of a character but so many franchises could adopt what they're doing to some degree.

@shroomer8294 9 месяцев назад

I think it’s because it isn’t a movie about Spider-Man the character but a movie about Spider-Man the idea. It’s a movie with a million different Spider-Men and Spider-Women and despite being all different and unique yet they’re all still equally Spider-Man. Even the Peter Parker we get isn’t the same high school Peter most adaptations go with, he’s a like what happens after those stories end. It’s world building with the Spiderverse and canon events is just the perfect adaptation of the legacy Spider-Man has. I can rant about my praise for both movies endlessly. How they gave us Miles instead of Peter #11 or their masterful exploration of transgenderism trough Gwen. How Hobie gets like 5 minutes of screen time yet absolutely steals the show and I haven’t even gotten into the animation yet.

@izrael820 9 месяцев назад

@@shroomer8294 These 3 Spiderman affected timeliness and univeres yet all came from their own individual stories to make something that means more than all of them. Ironically it's a coming of Age story for our new Hero yet still OLD character. It's not necessarily a new Spidermen but new characters/ humans that dawn the Name to reinforce this Heros legacy and what "Spiderman" stands for🤌🏾 love it all

@mottom2657 9 месяцев назад

@@shroomer8294 What does Spider-Gwen have to do with tranny ideologies anyway? This whole narrative is one of many Twitter nonsenses people are supposed to believe... well, screw this. Gwen's theme is just like this.

@marktheshark7588 9 месяцев назад

@@shroomer8294 ,But that's why I had a problem with Across the Spiderverse.Peter Parker's Spiderman has become a watered down version of himself with all these different versions of him.

@SkeletonLord 9 месяцев назад

@@shroomer8294Comment was looking good until I detected the comfort headcanon being stated as factual 🙃

@yash_kapoor 9 месяцев назад

It’s sad that Blue Beetle, which is not a multiversal superhero movie, has received the least marketing out of all the superhero films released so far from the big 2. It’s a self-centered, stand-alone, grounded, actually good film and it’s seen as having such a low chance of making its budget back that they would rather pump that budget into a multiverse movie.

@rcbmmines4579 9 месяцев назад

Just saw it, and man I hope to see Alex make a video on it. As both a longtime Blue Beetle fan (from animation as well as comics) and a Karate Kid/Cobra Kai fan, I absolutely loved it.

@FormalFilmsProductions 9 месяцев назад

I love the character of blue beetle. I’m planning on seeing it.

@kamikoto1558 9 месяцев назад

@@JDelvaMusicdefo doesn't

@rcbmmines4579 9 месяцев назад

@@JDelvaMusic Nah It’s no Across the Spider-Verse but it’s good. I’d say really good. Far above Shazam 2 and better than The Flash.

@theAwkwardAvocado 9 месяцев назад

When the trailer had George Lopez calling Batman a fascist, I knew I wasn’t going to watch it. Even though I’m Hispanic, and probably should support it, the movie just seems it’s gonna be awful

@Pssybart 9 месяцев назад

Everything, Everywhere, All at Once is such a deep movie because it uses the multi-verse to ask questions we've all asked ourselves: What if I pursued my dream of becoming an actor? What if I married someone else? Will I ever get my chance at true happiness again? Sure the movie is also having a lot of fun with the sheer chaos of its plot. But it's really about finding true meaning within that chaos. And that's pretty much how we feel now. The world is chaotic and scary. Sometimes it feels meaningless. But everyone has something that is really valuable. And sometimes that value is just staring us in the face. Dreaming about multi-verses is fun. But what we already have is more important.

@ytunnuyt 9 месяцев назад

I genuinely believe that without studio interference, Sam Raimi could have made something truly special with the multiverse in Doctor Strange

@bk7064 9 месяцев назад

Absolutely not. That movie was a complete mess from top to bottom. No writing and story development for America Chavez, inconsistent direction, etc. Add that all with the misleading name and you have quite the mess lol. Just my opinion though.

@tetros5265 9 месяцев назад

@@bk7064the movie was doomed from the start. The previous director left due to how strict marvel was about the movie. I do feel there is a good movie idea it was just from the get go not the direction they wanted unfortunately

@truegamer_007 9 месяцев назад

It wasn't his movie in the first place, HE was the studio interference brought in after the director of the first Dr. Strange left, because of, obviously, creative differences.

@al112v4 9 месяцев назад

THIS. He wanted to truly have fun, and then Sony/Marvel told him "No it's not 2002 anymore, you can't have personality anymore in big budget superhero movies!".

@truegamer_007 9 месяцев назад

@@al112v4 He only got the job cause he agreed to do whatever the studio wanted. Scott Derrickson, the director of Dr. Strange 1 didn't want any of that and so he left. Raimi is a fan of Dr. Strange (hence the Easter egg in Spider-Man 2) and I guess he didn't want to pass on a chance of making the movie, even if it meant not getting full creative control. I thought Raimi directing this would be a positive when it was announced. But once I understood the background of the movie, after watching it and getting disappointed, I realised it was doomed from the beginning.

@plipplopproductions4347 9 месяцев назад

Imagine a Batman movie that went full wacky and was like that one episode of Brave and the Bold where he fought alongside a psychic Batman, steampunk Batman, monster Batman, and more against Owlman. That’d be so cool.

@shawnwilcowski 9 месяцев назад

That’s what i want from the DCU paying respect and homage to the comics vs laughing at them like MCU does

@damiantirado9616 9 месяцев назад

Literally your comment doesn’t understand the video. Your idea is a stupid multiverse idea

@Luke101 9 месяцев назад

Batman works best when he’s dark and serious in tone. We had a decade of wacky batman movies and they nearly killed the superhero genre

@plipplopproductions4347 9 месяцев назад

@@Luke101 I disagree heavily. Batman’s cool because he can work in any tone. The Lego Batman Movie is a top-tier Batman movie and Batman: Brave and the Bold is one of the best Batman cartoons out there. To say he can only work in a dark tone is just a narrow look at the character when there’s so much storytelling potential to take advantage of.

@IronElephantProductions 9 месяцев назад

As much as I'd LOVE to see that, (my reaction is the problem) I can always rewatch that episode on MAX or whatever (I don't have a Max subscription). I'd prob pay money for them to do that again when the animation is already done and ready for my eye balls to watch. let me ask for some thing new (idk caveman batman animated movie that I just made up)

@RocketCyrus 9 месяцев назад

I dream of making a horror movie using the multiverse some day. I plan to make it the complete antithesis of EEAO.

@MB832 9 месяцев назад

That sounds awesome!

@dumi_chenu3730 9 месяцев назад

I hope you do It would be super cool

@FifthRobin 9 месяцев назад

What medium? Film, show, book, comic?

@sourlab 9 месяцев назад

Can you make videos about it

@wiggy009 9 месяцев назад

What is EEAO

@PJmachine 9 месяцев назад

As long as we keep getting movies like "Everything, Everywhere" and Across the Spiderverse, they cam keep doing multiverse. Even No Way Home was a lot of fun and respected the past.

@milesmorales-intothespider9861 9 месяцев назад

Agreed.

@blue_ig1 8 месяцев назад

People are turning on no way home for no reason, it does so much things rights and a few things wrong but still is a great movie

@spider-man500 8 месяцев назад

@blue_ig1 I don't get it. Sure it definitely has flaws, but it is so earnest and authenticly wholesome. Not just for honouring the past Spider-Men, but finally giving MCU Spider-Man a truly meaningful and classicly Spider-Man ark. He never felt like Spider-Man before until now. So the huge change for his character in No Way Home was necessary.

@blue_ig1 8 месяцев назад

@@spider-man500 what? How would it be unnecessary if you said it finally made him spiderman?

@jacobfleming3926 9 месяцев назад

It’s ironic, because in my opinion, the two best comic book movies ever are Multiverse movies. The two spider verse movies

@neilhannan7525 9 месяцев назад

Everything and Everwhere at once and Spiderverse Sitting on the thrones of Multiverse Stories done right ❤

@berserker5551 9 месяцев назад

the abilities didnt make a lot of sense in everything everywhere since you need to actually practice a skill to be good at it and ur muscles to remember it

@adiprasetya2207 9 месяцев назад

Agreed, the existencial philosophy in everything everywhere were truly explored. It's truly a multiverse of madness

@mccarney4207 8 месяцев назад

Yes!!! I was so confused to hear him say in the beginning that Everythjng Everywhere didn’t bring anything new to the table

@aroccoification 8 месяцев назад

Spiderverse was only good because of the legacy roles. By itself it's a just okay movie

@theamazingspooderman2697 8 месяцев назад

bro really said Spiderverse

@jskrabac 9 месяцев назад

Spiderverse nails it. Just a small touch of nostalgia, while mostly exploring new worlds we've never seen on screen before. And it's all done with intention and a potent emotional through line.

@hhattonaom9729 8 месяцев назад

The new one sucks

@MCKidProducer 8 месяцев назад

@@hhattonaom9729the first one didn’t explore new worlds tho? but the first one is a great classic Spider-Man story with a multiverse backdrop, I think the new one played with the idea of multiverse/ canon with depth but kept the story personal to Miles and Gwen. Personally thought it was a great sequel to an animated masterpiece

@samil679 8 месяцев назад

@@hhattonaom9729 Its a two-part film. ATSV is a perfect setup for BTSV.

@Commander_Shepard. 8 месяцев назад

@@hhattonaom9729 why?

@moisuomi 8 месяцев назад

@@hhattonaom9729 Big L

@jacobfleming3926 9 месяцев назад

I want comic book projects to dive more into horror.

@billmcdermott9647 9 месяцев назад

Venom should have been horror

@jacobfleming3926 9 месяцев назад

⁠@@billmcdermott9647I agree. I think one of the reasons why I really like the werewolf by night is because I just felt so different. It did feel like a classic horror movie in many ways. And I think that you could do a horror movie with the character like the Hulk.

@billmcdermott9647 9 месяцев назад

Oh absolutely even some spider man stories are pretty scary so you could touch the horror even if you don’t fully embrace it @@jacobfleming3926

@_CPP_ 9 месяцев назад

@@billmcdermott9647 YES YES YES. It had to be a psychological horror movie where Venom takes hold of Eddie and then he slowly becomes more and more insane and falls deeper into the symbiotes temptations

@billmcdermott9647 9 месяцев назад

Agreed and then there’s carnage…should have given him a proper MO and got into the serial killer aspect ….of what these people like @@_CPP_

@yupyeah1959 9 месяцев назад

we need more multiverse movies like spiderverse and everything everywhere all at once. using the multiverse as a story telling device and not an opportunity for fan service. but hollywood will never understand

@Terminal_Apotos 9 месяцев назад

We got a shit ton of Multiverse Media in the span of like 3 years, and most of the times it’s for cheap nostalgia and cameos

@TheUnintentionalWildCard 9 месяцев назад

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@HiTopFilms 9 месяцев назад

Thank you :)

@ftrwrwbg 9 месяцев назад

I skip them all every time especially fucking Raid Shadow Legends how is that still a thing

@IdentifiantE.S 9 месяцев назад

@@ftrwrwbgRaid Shadow 💀

@thurstonsmith4376 9 месяцев назад

As undeveloped as it is , I think the chronoball scene from the flash is how to do the multiverse right (not the lifeless Cameos) but the 3 versions of Barry coming face to face , dark flash isn’t just some cheap variant for cheers and crowd applause but a visual representation of Barry’s guilt , I think we can all relate to that in a way , holding on to something so desperately it essentially breaks us as people , ah man I just love that shit , wish they would of focused more on it .

@thurstonsmith4376 9 месяцев назад

And I know it’s like basic as hell , but I adore the dark flash design , the way his scars form , the way spikes stick out of him and his suit gets absolutely fucked , and the fact he’s like a fucking horror villain that just pops up in Jumpscares ah man , I’m a shill for dark flash

@izrael820 9 месяцев назад

Yes somewhat what spidervese did. These 3 Spiderman affected timeliness and univeres yet all came from rheir own individual stories to make something that means more than all of them. Ironically it's a coming of Age story for our new Hero yet still OLD character. It's not necessarily new Spidermen or Flash but new character that dawn the Name to reinforce this Heros legacy🤌🏾 love it all

@platinumcomplex1335 8 месяцев назад

They straight up copied the CW show version of Savatar and somehow managed to make it even worse than that absolute nonsense and you're applauding it as if that shows genuine effort and originality lol

@thurstonsmith4376 8 месяцев назад

@@platinumcomplex1335 never said it was genius man , just personally enjoyed the idea and execution in the movie , could of been better , but it worked for me , personally

@danielduff 9 месяцев назад

I think the cw actually did a pretty good job with the multiverse, slowly building it up over multiple seasons. Crisis was a bit of a let down, but at least they built the ground work to get to it, instead of jumping straight to it

@bobkane432 9 месяцев назад

At least they tried

@TheSpeedForceProject 9 месяцев назад

Cannot agree more!!! Plus I also loved how it was also used to play with the main characters’ emotions and develop them further as characters!!

@chippy5933 8 месяцев назад

Difference between, using multiverse to tell stories and stories to tell the multiverse

@PaulavenXIII 9 месяцев назад

It really bums me out that with these Multiversal films, the greatness of Spiderverse and (imo) No Way Home are usually treated as the exception but in reality it should be the standard of these kinds of movies.

@Treck533 9 месяцев назад

No Way Home isn’t a good multiverse movie, it’s not a bad movie but it doesn’t utilize the multiverse to its greatest potential.

@ethankleinman1067 9 месяцев назад

@Treck533 It dosent really need to though when it's still about MCU Peters Story.

@PaulavenXIII 9 месяцев назад

@@Treck533 I personally don’t think it’s very far off from how ITSV utilized the multiverse and that’s still hailed a great movie. Don’t get me wrong I think ITSV is still the better movie but I thought NWH did its job for the MCU’s Peter’s story👍

@theofficialretardschanneld1260 9 месяцев назад

NWH is a terribly written film

@platinumcomplex1335 8 месяцев назад

No Way Home wasn't that good. I wouldn't say it's terrible, but there's a lot of total BS in that movie and it should absolutely not be the standard for proper utilization of the multiverse.

@yashbetgeri4090 9 месяцев назад

I think we haven’t really tapped into the multiverse’s potential at all. No Way Home was really about Peter’s world (the MCU) and the responsibility in him to help people despite all odds. If we saw the other universes there it would really bring the movie down in my opinion. As far as the villains go, they were definitely part of the plot for “nostalgia”, but I think Watts and co. smartly made that story about responsibility its consequences through the alternate self (the villains, tobey, andrew, and even strange being cruxes of that) work pretty damn well. As far as Multiverse of Madness goes, I think the Illuminati was also personal to the central theme which the video touches on as well- can Strange be happy while doing what he does? I do think the title is extremely misleading however, because MoM is very much a personal story rather than an exploratory one. The Flash, well, it’s again about the alternate self. As far as Batman goes, I got nothing. I wasn’t really huge on how they used him, Zod, or Supergirl despite their performances being fantastic. I think the multiverse is a concept that has FAR more to offer within these comicbook realms. I hope when the time comes that potential is utilized, because it would be quite sad if these entry point stories are all it ends up offering.

@thestarkknightreturns 9 месяцев назад

Actually The Flash gives Batman in general a decent arc. And Batfleck and Bat-Keaton kind of share it.

@thealjohnsonshow2188 9 месяцев назад

+yashbetgeri4090 You took the words right out of my mouth.

@VonJay 9 месяцев назад

I think No Way Home worked where a lot of Marvel films don't work for me in that he had a pretty amazing central theme: "Fixing people that don't want to fixed." Its an astoundingly universal theme in that a lot of people, even on the most basic levels, can identify "problems" in someone else. Some people go out their way to try and show them "the best way." So it was something that I could follow. At first I thought it was a glitch and they would revert to just basic superficial predicaments, but then they gave the theme to the villain, So much so that when the theme flows through the villain we get lines like: "I'll fix you Peter" in Goblin's belief that Peter is too weak of a person for his powers, which then leads to lines like..."Good enough to have it all, too weak to take it" and "poor peter, too weak to send me home to die." I thought it was one of the most focused films out of all them. Which brings me to my second point: Disney is not creative. The Infinity Saga works (not for me but I can see why people pay attention) because of how simple yet complex the central theme to 20+ movies is. It's a caper on a cosmic level, with stones representing the most humanly intriguing aspects of the universe. And guess what, Disney didn't create the infinity saga, they co opted it and stretched it out through multiple movies. But imagine if someone like Nolan had that type of central theme. He'd redefine time and space and make it like visually artistic yet believable. Disney's model, by proof of their structure is through research groups and committees. And not through the artistic expression of an individual, which is how art has been made since the cave paintings. So how do you honor wish fulfilment for fans, entertain fans when they're not good writers(the basic fan doesn't know how to write but Disney takes their requests anyway), and you've run out of creative material? I think the easiest fix is to hire the best writers you can and fire your committees and research groups.

@theoutsiderjess4869 9 месяцев назад

Cw's Flash/Arrowverse, No way home and The spiderverse trilogy are the only ones to explore the multiverse properly

@peterparker3997 9 месяцев назад

The title isn’t misleading. We wanted Tobey and Andrew to come back as Spider-Man. We wanted John Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic. We wanted to see more from Zod and the DCEU. We want and want, and that’s all the studios care about and disregard WHY we want it.

@Azaro_64 9 месяцев назад

I've been thinking this exact thing regarding Multiverse Fatigue, which is why I liked Blue Beetle so much, it's been a while since I saw a movie that's just concerned with telling a simpler story on a smaller scale without relying on multiverse cashgrabs.

@John-ns5se 9 месяцев назад

I’m glad someone appreciates Micheal Shannon’s Zod portrayal. He was very under rated character that a lot people seem to not really appreciate. His portrayal of Zod is my most favorite interpretation of the character because He was by far the most tragic and most compelling villain the dceu had. He wasn’t just some run of the mill generic villain but someone who believes the end justifies the means. He was a man truly broken and had lost everything and was willing to do whatever it took to save what was left of his people and to ensure their survival even if it means destroying another sentient race to do it. You can definitely understand where he is coming from. I’m sure if we were in a similar position we would have done the same

@joshualopez9175 9 месяцев назад

Is this sarcastic

@John-ns5se 9 месяцев назад

@@joshualopez9175 what’s there to be sarcastic about? He was one of the better villains DCEU had to offer. No debate.

@amazingjay3957 9 месяцев назад

@@joshualopez9175he’s right Zod’s reasonings made perfect sense and his emotion was all there too he was a great villain

@mottom2657 9 месяцев назад

@@John-ns5se I agree. While Terence Stamp couldn't do that much with his Zod, Michael Shannon does a lot more.

@shawnwilcowski 9 месяцев назад

💯 love his Zod even if i have qualms with MoS he and Cavill did PERFECT( cavill with what he was given did perfect, he’s a nerd he also knew it wasn’t “superman” superman)

@logan2b 9 месяцев назад

I also feel like no matter what they do with spiders villains it would be kind of difficult to use a new version of one of the villains from no way home, like Norman Osborn has so much potential but idk if they’d use someone who isn’t willem dafoe

@PhantomLantern2814 9 месяцев назад

I’d rather them actually TRY than cave to the standards of sweaty manchildren who can’t let go of their nostalgia long enough to see something new.

@aochel4 9 месяцев назад

Loki is honestly the only live action MCU thing that has introduced multiple timelines/universes and actually used them in a meaningful way.

@Ft.Gagiano 9 месяцев назад

Its ironic that "everything,everyhere all at once " is still the most accurate depection of the multiverse. We'll ever get.

@pawnhearts8785 9 месяцев назад

And sadly, it still contributed to Multiverse fatigue.

@Jayozranger 8 месяцев назад

I really like your critique of spy man Norway house. I hear them say stuff like ”well there will never be a better version of green goblin!” And I think about that, and I think about characters like the spectacular version and realise that there is a new original green goblin who’s just as good

@adbricks 9 месяцев назад

That’s why I think blue beetle came out at the best and worst time. On one hand everyone’s tired of multiverse movies which makes it so refreshing, but on the other hand everyone has lost they’re trust in dc which is sad because it’s a pretty fun movie. Will you make a video on it?

@ethankleinman1067 9 месяцев назад

Not everyone thats going too far.

@joju997 9 месяцев назад

When I realized I was mainly excited to see Doctor Strange for a potential cameo by Patrick Stewart's Xavier, it broke my ability to care about the MCU. It did shatter the illusion for me and killed most of my enthusiasm for the multiverse. I also realized that this is just the endgame of the cinematic universe. When the MCU caught on and everyone tried to copy them, they tried to make Avengers movies immediately. Batman v Superman was DC's attempt to skip the worldbuilding needed to get characters in place to make a Justice League movie, and it showed in the quality of that product. The multiverse is the natural evolution of skipping to the end, where you don't even need to invent characters anymore if you can just get the guy who did the thing ten years ago to come back. This time, even Marvel isn't patient enough to do what Marvel did to make these movies work in the first place.

@TevyaSmolka 9 месяцев назад

A Flash movie shouldn't be that hard but easy but WB somehow screwed that up very badly.

@ammaralrai7022 6 месяцев назад

Conclusion: The Multiverse concept can be great. It just can't exclusively be used for cameos.

@kianhughes6309 9 месяцев назад

“Now it’s our turn to deal with the consequences of our achievement”

@sng3939 9 месяцев назад

I agree. We all as fans were dying to see the multiverse of characters meeting. Especially with the 3 Spider-Men is when it really took off. Studios saw this and were like let’s do more of this. Antman 3, doctor strange 2, the flash and now apparently deadpool 3 and invincible season 2 will explore the multiverse. Kinda makes me miss single personal stories like The Batman in recent years.

@PiperAtTheGatesOfYourMom 8 месяцев назад

What do you mean “miss”? There’s still TONS of non-multiversal stuff releasing like every damn month lmao. Come on

@Tygajakoleromoby 5 месяцев назад

@@PiperAtTheGatesOfYourMomlike the blue beetle

@prowthegamer 9 месяцев назад

I am so glad I wasn’t the only one bothered by the fact that MCU Spidey fought a different goblin instead of his own. It bothers me that he finally learned his lesson because of another Spider-Man instead of himself.

@ShelJones 8 месяцев назад

Film nostalgia as fan service Contrarians: We want something new. New take on the genre Contrarians: This isn't accurate to the source material.

@vanhunts6238 8 месяцев назад

I really think that if these studios want to keep making movies in their connective universes, they should hold off on the multiverse until the very end. The multiverse is about as high as superhero stakes can get. When you have every earth crashing into each other, or every universe being snuffed out by a super being, then where do you go from there? You would need to end it and then maybe start again.

@demontamerbf18 9 месяцев назад

In my opinion Multiverse movies end up being mediocre or bad because it's way easier to start adding all the cameos people want than actually making good, meaningful stories. I agree, as long as everyone keeps going to the movie theater to watch the character they loved when they were little come back they won't stop doing that, I mean I think you can do both but that means more work I guess.

@ddsjgvk 8 месяцев назад

Thats why after civil war it just became all about cameos. But lets ve honest the inly good flim after the first avengers is the second cap movie Ironan 2+3 bad Thor 2 bad. Everything else forgettable.

@demontamerbf18 8 месяцев назад

@@ddsjgvk Agreed, I loved Iron Man 3 but it was only because I really like the character, I know it's bad and yes, the rest go from mediocre to terrible, even Endgame I'd argue it's pretty bad written.

@AnglesSol 9 месяцев назад

I remember a Dexter’s Laboratory movie that had him team up with alternate versions of him from different points in his future. That was managed better than a lot of the mcu/dcu multiverse

@elijahbrown3551 9 месяцев назад

Dexter's Ego Trip.

@Mitcheck315 9 месяцев назад

I'm really hoping that EEAAO, both Spider-Verses, and Invincible S2 later this years shows studios that audiences want multiverse stories that aren't just a vessel to peddle nostalgia

@rangereric18 8 месяцев назад

I didn't personally experience any of the issues you pointed out and I believe the reason why is because I don't listen to the fanspeculation. By not inundating myself with all that noise, I walked into a movie and was pleasantly surprised.

@MacnS 9 месяцев назад

Amen brother. Another video that makes me wanna scream out to the world " get this man a job as a director and a writer at the same time so he can save these movies" but alas no hope. Only darkness... Great video tho man! :)

@tylerzimmerman757 8 месяцев назад

This is the “I’m 14 and this is deep” of Multiverse movie videos lmao

@jujuteuxOfficial 8 месяцев назад

he just turned coat, he said the opposite in all his videos he just caved in because it's not popular anymore and he doesn't stick to his standards, he just says what the current popular opinion wants to hear, he's not worth even spitting on.

@samwidgemayo6104 9 месяцев назад

Even beyond the multiverse, sometimes I think… could our generation ever have its own original character? Like Batman was way back in the 40s? I love films like Guardians 3 and ATSV, but I would KILL for something completely and utterly fresh in storytelling. No reboot, no adaptation, no legacy addition. Just something incredible

@FireElFreak 9 месяцев назад

Those characters are in anime and manga to me an example Luffy

@NickPiers 9 месяцев назад

Into the Spider-Verse did right about a multiverse story that the live action ones haven't: it did something new. It didn't rely on nostalgia and hang on old favourites. They gave us something new. Admittedly, it was something new taken from the comics, like Spider-Gwen and Spider-Ham, but they were new for theatre goers. The average theater-goer didn't know who Miles Morales was. They didn't know about Spider-Gwen, or Spider-Ham, or Spider-Man Noir. Sure, Into the Spider-Verse had little references to stuff we knew, like Dancing Tobey, but that was a quick gag, not the main hook. Heck, it was new for comic readers because they were new interpretations of those characters. Miles, Gwen, Spider-Man Noir, etc. They're similar to their comic counterparts, but they were very different. Hell, Peter B Parker is the kind of Spider-Man we've almost never seen before. And yet the live action ones are more interested bringing back old faces for a "cheap pop" to use a wrestling term. I was so happy to see my man Charlie Cox in No Way Home, because it signaled we'd see him again in the MCU. But his appearance amounted to nothing to the storyoverall.

@shrimpfixing18 9 месяцев назад

Alex, I’ve been a fan for years now, and what I love about you, that I have seen other RU-vidrs fall victim too, no matter how much more popular you become or how many years pass, you have always stayed consistent to your values and style. Keep them coming, I’ll always be watching!

@marktheshark7588 9 месяцев назад

One of the many problems that I had with No Way Home was that they rushed the story.Look at something,Aunt May's death didn't had any emotional weight is because the audience didn't connect with her.Because they made the bad choice of making her a sex symbol instead of a caring and loving aunt.Also I think that the multiverse story ,especially relating to Spiderman is watering down Peter Parker's version of Spiderman.

@Luke101 9 месяцев назад

Her death scene still had weight. I agree that they wasted her character in the MCU but Holland’s performance was so raw that I was totally invested in Peter’s emotions during that scene

@TravionMusic 9 месяцев назад

@@Luke101yes, during THAT scene. But our attachment to Aunt May in the trilogy as a whole ruined what could have been an even better scene had she been used correctly. This was my only issue with that scene as well, or her character in No Way Home in general, they waited til the last movie to utilize her how she should have been utilized

@blue_ig1 8 месяцев назад

She is basically his emotional support in homecoming, and is the motive to even save the villains

@crisis98 9 месяцев назад

I get annoyed at so much of the discussion about "multiverse fatigue", because it so often seems to assume that the multiverse is an inherently creatively bankrupt concept that can only be used for nostalgia and fanservice. So I am happy to see you point out that the problem is not the multiverse, it's how studios have been using it. The multiverse has incredible storytelling potential, and we've barely scratched the surface. But studios seem to think of it solely as a way to get nostalgic cameos.

@MacnS 9 месяцев назад

Your Jason movie looks insanely good. Showed it to my sister that is super hard to impress and she loved it and said " when is this in cinemas?". Im really hyped to see it

@HiTopFilms 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! I hope we deliver! Jason deserves it❤️

@stijnvandenheuvel8117 8 месяцев назад

Sorry but I can't resist with this tone. Gonna cry?

@suto5704 9 месяцев назад

It's crazy that in No way home they didn't do something interesting with the visuals when Tobey and Andrew were introduced. They just walk in awkwardly... ok fine what about the rest of the movie? And it's not much better in terms of differing the style of Tobey and Andrew

@adiprasetya2207 9 месяцев назад

Agreed, although the overall movie was good but the intro of those two spideys were.. meh

@tomtudorweaver1078 8 месяцев назад

The thing with big franchises today beyond just the multiverse is you hear people say they want it to 'recapture the feel' of what came before. Star Wars, Halloween, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, Jurassic Park, Terminator and so many more, now Marvel and DC are all about doing that, whether its sequels decades later or cameos from across the multiverse. The thing is that they mostly recapture only surface level things, literally something we've seen or heard before, whether its a character or a weapon, a vehicle, a one-liner or a piece of musical score, the stories around them almost always fall to the wayside. The stuff we've seen before like the Millennium Falcon, Michael Myers, Proton Packs and lightsabers, we liked because of the stories they were first featured in, that's why they worked to begin with. They weren't glorified or held above the story as some iconic thing, they served the story, stories which became iconic and thus they became iconic too. The mindset now with 'recapturing the feeling' is often in truth literally bringing whatever that popular thing was back no matter how awkward or shallow it may be. The multiverse is so often the same 'remember that' feel only more egregious.

@Cris-ed7yg 9 месяцев назад

my dude you talk about superhero movies like they are world altering events because that's how you feel them and i love you so much for that

@Sinnik22 9 месяцев назад

you're doing amazing stuff

@HiTopFilms 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the kind words. Could not do it without you.

@luisrosero1059 8 месяцев назад

They did try a different take on Green Golbin. It was called the Amazing Spider-Man 2, and no one liked it. The audience told Sony/Marvel who they preferred. I’m surprised this kid bothered to make a video essay trying to counter that point.

@AlexBeene 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for making this. I know you'll take some grief for it, because many people - including myself - love seeing this actors come back for these roles one more time, but you're right: at the end of the day, it's starting to feel like a cheap tactic to cash in on nostalgia instead of drive the plot forward. Long-term, it's bad for the genre.

@yourrivalgary 9 месяцев назад

The real problem is the whole concept of multiverses in the first place. They are an easy cop out for a writer who lacks the creativity to work their story into existing canon, but also lacks the follow through to create their own unique universe. They are fun for us to imagine, like you mentioned, but they will always fall short when adapted to screen because studio execs simply aren’t as creative as we are and don’t care about the source material.

@Chris-lu4vm 9 месяцев назад

I mean yeah every film is only impacted by a certain amount of people in marvel. Every movie only follows so many patterns to flow into the next Mcu film. They don’t have time to care about actual creativity and they never will. There’s a reason the Spider-Man film is doing so well, because when a good film stands out it’s being compared for the rest of marvel and it’s too bad, but essentially it means we’re gambling whether the 1 in 6 films that are good will be the next one. No one knows

@Yahavogdan 9 месяцев назад

That one clip of Spiderman:shattered dimensions hits hard! Its a good example of what potential the multiverse gives! Having 4 different spider men that each has something to learn and teach the others,and fight the best version of Mysterio (in my opinion). Really proves your point.

@kasam0308 9 месяцев назад

As a Gen Z, Shattered Dimensions was my No Way Home. The only difference was that it was a love letter to Spider-Man in general, not just the comics or the cartoons. And it worked perfectly as not only one of the best examples of the multiverse, but also one of the best Spider-Man games.

@S4ns 8 месяцев назад

Amazing how critics and channels who gave these films positive reviews when they came out have suddenly magically changed their minds once general consensus settles. They check to see which way the culture wind is blowing and suddenly "No, these films were ALWAYS bad." But I guess shills gotta shill.

@improbablyyourdad8458 8 месяцев назад

To be fair, I think these people genuinely love movies and these characters, and they want them to be good, so they overlook issues in the moment. Then they rewatch the films after the hype has settled and realize that they were just hyped. That doesn't take away from your statement, tho. Some of these mfs are just shilling for their audience.

@domesticdragonwaffle 8 месяцев назад

The biggest problem I believe is actually the failure to properly utilize the multiverse. I mean, with No Way Home being as successful as it was, people started rewatching Andrew Garfields Spider-man movies and realizing he was actually pretty great and was royally screwed over with bad writing, yet Sony has has nearly two years to green light a new movie for him to properly give him a real trilogy. We could also get a Spidey 4 with Tobey, possibly even give him a live action Mayday

@ethandoyle4978 9 месяцев назад

You make a great point, and it may seem/feel impossible now , but I still thinks there s a chance to come with new and original/creative ideas for superhero films, we just have to make it through this strike and keep holding onto hope.

@ethankillion786 9 месяцев назад

I honestly think it's early to tell. What we've seen so far in the MCU is just snippets of what the Multiverse is. The MCU is introducing new characters while slowly building the Multiverse. We'll probably get to it in Kang Dynasty and especially in Secret Wars. The Multiverse is definitely happening, but for now it's more in the background, so to speak. I'm sure people would complain if the Multiverse had more spotlight too. Let them introduce new characters so then we can see their variants in the future.

@theonechillbeing9317 9 месяцев назад

The multiverse is full of untapped potential when it comes to storytelling and the limit is one's creativity and effort. The multiverse has great storytelling when it is well executed. The multiverse storytelling recently did right is the movie called Spiderman Across The Spiderverse.

@avidcule 9 месяцев назад

That movie isn’t even that good, heavily carried by the animation, the plot was weak and I refuse to believe that any of the Spider People would agree with Miguel, Spot was also incredibly uninteresting.

@platinumcomplex1335 8 месяцев назад

@@avidcule You refuse to believe that out of pretty much infinite Spider people, some of them might not want to risk destroying their entire universe? And Spot was fine as a villain, he just got overshadowed because Miguel was absolutely fantastic. And what about the plot was weak? Name 5 actual plot holes, I'll wait.

@SuperSpectrom 8 месяцев назад

Its official folks, the internet has officially turned on NO way home after hyping it up for awhile. It only took a year and a half lol

@trevorthompson572 8 месяцев назад

The problem with multiverses is that the stakes go away. The wins aren’t wins and the losses aren’t losses because somewhere else they don’t exist. How can I care about ‘my’ hero and their struggle when there’s countless other versions of that same hero?

@Zombiesnyder13 9 месяцев назад

They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits of NO WAY HOME But do you know who else deserves a big thank you? LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy and TASM1 had depth Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toysThey gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits But do you know who else deserves a big thank you? LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy and TASM1 had depth Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toys

@may21136 9 месяцев назад

Avi Arad is still doing some job (unlike countless firing at Disney HQ, including bob chapek). Avi envisioned the idea of spiderverse, which is why we got to see ITSV and ATSV. I get he made some bad decisions once in a while, but he and amy pascal are very much responsible for taking spiderman to the pop culture. I mean kevin feige also takes credit for numerous avengers and mcu films, where the real work had been done by someone else like john watts or John favreau. If you are pointing finger at avi, it is equivalent to pointing at kevin feige.

@may21136 9 месяцев назад

We got to see symbiote suit in the movies only once. Spiderman 3. Never since then have we seen symbiote spiderman. Guess why it exsits? Avi Arad.

@MiguelNdiweni 9 месяцев назад

Hollywood can't write a great storylines about the multiverse in movies, but tv shows like Rick and Morty, The Flash perfectly explored and explained it very well. Spider Verse helds the storytelling well. Be

@Thebestskier12 9 месяцев назад

I was super excited to see a new upload. I’ve been binge watching all the Spider-Man films and your Raimi videos. I couldn’t agree more on the points made here. Watching the Rami films made me appreciate the solo films before multiverse.

@asafmiller11 9 месяцев назад

You are slowly becoming my favorite youtuber, every single thing you say feels right and your videos are so well edited. Im alredy exsited for your next video

@manashjyotigautama 9 месяцев назад

Wow Alex! Now unarguably after watching this video I'm sceptical about Deadpool 3, well I don't doubt Ryan Reynolds he is a versatile actor + comedian, also Deadpool is my favorite Anti-hero and his take on the character always makes me love this character more and more, also now it's confirmed that Deadpool 3 will be Rated-R so that means that they'll get the full creative liberty, but still I hope that there will be a meaning behind this, there must be a reason for why this story will exist, otherwise it will be another cameo fest with nothing inspiring 💔.

@gerybock6568 9 месяцев назад

1:44 Your favourite thing about raid is the money they offered you nothing more

@nickg01 9 месяцев назад

Yay new hi top vid. Love your work and the jason Todd trailer was great!

@level5650 8 месяцев назад

In the end, I think it’s inability of the people at the top to see the art under their control as something more then a product to sell in exchange for the wealth they think makes their lives meaningful then a chance to give their thoughts, their fears, their dreams shape.

@GamerSlyRatchet1 9 месяцев назад

A great recent use of the multiverse is in Justice League Infinity, the comic that follows up Justice League Unlimited and made by JLU writers and artists. They only explore two or three alternate universes and none of them are easy fanservice. They’re used to support the story’s themes about the potential goodness within everyone, regardless of circumstances. I really recommend it.

@rocketraccoon2339 9 месяцев назад

The reason I loved the Marc Webb Spiderman movies was because it focused on emotion

@Zombiesnyder13 9 месяцев назад

#AviAradOut

@motionkings 9 месяцев назад

Raimi?

@rockstar-made 9 месяцев назад

@@motionkings Both TASM films are extremely emotional? Wydm

@izrael820 9 месяцев назад

@@rockstar-made yea but tbf the only Spiderman films that don't seem to drive any emotional investment into both the characters and from the audience is the MCU films.

@motionkings 9 месяцев назад

@@izrael820 yes

@JcgLounge 9 месяцев назад

He’s right. We’ve abused the multiverse trope. Maybe it’s time we bring it to a close, and focus on smaller stories that actually have meaning.

@jaydenson3849 9 месяцев назад

This is one of your best edited videos. Great job Alex!

@ivankekic8411 9 месяцев назад

I agree with everything you said man. But I also believe that it's not just the peoples fault to. It's the STUDIOS fault as well. I personally think that these studios should have never had these fictional icons at all. For as for as I'm concerned, these big board excecs only give a damn about money! That's all most rich people care about is money! We need to stop fighting with each other and start coming together. As a team not just as comic book people. Not as normal people. But all the people as one thing. Why? Because the whole world right now needs HEROS!

@MakiPcr 8 месяцев назад

This is 100% studios fault, not the people; people didn't demand bad movies with cameos as the only selling point, they demanded *good* movies (with cameos as a gift)

@ivankekic8411 7 месяцев назад

I agree.

@pianist150 9 месяцев назад

People got mad at me for wanting MCU Peter to have his own Ock and Goblin but seriously, imagine if in The Dark Knight they were like "Hey we'll never do better than Nicholson and bringing him back will sell tickets so lets do that instead." I'm not saying a new MCU Goblin would have been as iconic as Heath's Joker, but how much does it suck that we didn't even try

@MakiPcr 8 месяцев назад

People are stupid; as much as I love the Raimi trilogy I don't want it remade and remastered, I want something original

@Gunvillain 9 месяцев назад

Give us a Batman Beyond movie. With a good story, heart, meaning behind the characters. Not cheap jokes for laughs, but not to serious either. Just a solid story of a teen who needs to be Batman!

@colinftp3288 9 месяцев назад

Invincible multiverse is amazing hopefully they do it right in the show

@thearbitersteven6503 9 месяцев назад

The Multiverse should be a way of introducing different universe Heroes and Villains. Not be constrained on saying oh yeah this version of this character shares the same morals as the other version but does things differently. I want alternate outfits, alternate morals. How that universe ended up going through a full on conflict. Where it would affect the current timeline. Fighting through different realities and multiverses. That's something that Loki does right. It shatters the Multiverse abit more than the films. Where there are different versions, outfits and species of Loki. Both MCU and DCU have zero clue on how to do the Multiverse. The comics and animated universes are there, they just don't know how to utilize those universes.

@reyesreviews 9 месяцев назад

Imo I feel like when it comes to the multiverse, Hollywood wants to try to do something, but we as an audience want to see old characters again, Tobey, Andrew, Hugh are characters that made Spiderman and Wolverine so iconic we don't want to see these actors return, but complain that nothing new is happening for them so I agree with everything your saying

@jackhamilton9604 9 месяцев назад

I never see anyone ask why a Doctor Strange film didn't have a Doctor Strange villain

@bironjames9948 9 месяцев назад

Like fr smh stupid Wanda movie tricked people to go see it under a doc strange label lol

@ItzFmod 8 месяцев назад

Who's we?

@ManiacX1999 9 месяцев назад

I thought Multiveruse of Madness was about trying to have it all and killing off the fan favorite characters was apart of that lesson. That we cant have it all *EDIT* Wanda did go through to every multiverse to get "her" kids back

@c4productions951 9 месяцев назад

Yeah I honestly thought the multiverse cameos were utilized perfectly, and to pretty hilarious effect. Gives us a little bit of exciting fluff between seeing a legend return and getting a peek at some new variants of other characters, but doesn’t allow them to take over the story. I absolutely loved how the teased this epic team-up and built up the hype, only to strip it away like, “No, Strange is gonna have to figure this out himself.”

@dylanpowell4837 9 месяцев назад

yh i really like the movie really @@c4productions951

@retro_zz9738 9 месяцев назад

bro im still waiting on that the batman full video. love your work btw

@kingkobra6290 9 месяцев назад

After seeing that Jason trailer bro you should’ve have your movie review privileges revoked

@jacobfleming3926 9 месяцев назад

I want comic book movies to dive more into horror. I love what they did with werewolf by night. Imagine a hulk movie with a horror twist.

@ignaciojacintolopez8232 9 месяцев назад

So basically inmortal hulk😂😂

@jacobfleming3926 9 месяцев назад

@@ignaciojacintolopez8232 yeah why not

@bironjames9948 9 месяцев назад

Werewolf by night is my guy but they played him in that goofy mcu light I didn't like that

@pr0z00m6 9 месяцев назад

I think the reason we cant see the proper villians or perfect costumes or one moment with a characters mind Is because the investors genuinelly dont think thats what we want

@DCR_RANG 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for talking. I enjoy hearing your opinion and the way you describe and explain how you feel about these movies or these concepts

@weston407 8 месяцев назад

It's hard to take videos seriously that have non-ironic Raid ads at the beginning

@MakiPcr 8 месяцев назад

"We"? That's sounds like a lot of people, *I* didn't do anything, I didn't even watched Spider-man legal (and I didn't like it) Don't blame the people for the choices of high end executives who don't care about art nor what audiences actually want

@HishamA.N_Comicbroe 9 месяцев назад

Kinda crazy how after just recently getting introduced the multiverse trope's already getting tiring. I feel like ppl learned the wrong thing from ITSV on how to do those type of stories & EEAO, parts of MoM and NWH should be how it's done.

@zacharia1446 8 месяцев назад

A 400k sub channel that deserves 4mil, love the work, as always

@itsinfinite551 9 месяцев назад

i think this is one of my favourite videos you have done

@the_wolf_bear1327 8 месяцев назад

What's this "we" stuff I haven't paid for anything since end game

@daniboypicazzo 9 месяцев назад

It's very, very sad that No Way Home, the (in my opinion) better live action superhero multiverse movie at the moment, got carried by the mud of the weird choices of Doctor Strange and the soul-less choices of The Flash.

@ThatCrunkCoco 9 месяцев назад

"FOTIFY YOUR MINDS" Wong

@jackwilliams8514 9 месяцев назад

It’s fascinating that multiversal storytelling has completely worn out its welcome before we even got close to the MCU doing their big Avengers Secret Wars attempt. Makes me wonder what the response will be like to that