we're back with another internet analysis! today I want to discuss kids that go viral and/or become memes. (captions will be up soon, apologies for the delay!) // thanks again to Sourse for sponsoring today's vid! use my link cen.yt/sourse_tiffanyferg to get 30% off your first order when you use my code TIFFANY30. TIME STAMPS BELOW: 0:00 - intro 0:45 - similar to my concerns with family vlogging 1:41 - privacy 2:10 - little girl looking at Michelle Obama portrait 3:24 - BBC dad 4:02 - shout out to Sourse 5:47 - out of control memeification (tbt to Rebecca Black & Friday) 7:00 - capitalizing on a viral video (Lily's Disneyland Surprise) 9:00 - side-eye Chloe meme 12:45 - meme kid money 13:47 - Mila & Emma Stauffer 18:24 - Ava Ryan 20:40 - Gavin Thomas 24:40 - sponsorships and ads 25:39 - the limited longevity of internet fame 27:52 - Mason Ramsey 29:45 - reinventing yourself after going viral 30:33 - thank u, watch more of me plz lmao
I've always questioned the idea of monetization when it comes to kids. I think there should be an age limit placed on them so that they don't get taken advantage by companies who use them for promotion or parents wanting a pay day. This is just my opinion.
What’s actually really terrifying is that so many of us can recognise those kids even with censorship, that’s how familiar we are with these pictures and videos :(
I think thats only because we recognize the images, not the kids themselves. I knew the look at all those chickens photo but if that girl was in front of me I would never know
Well the song is funny and kinda cringe but it's important to note that all of that wasn't Rebecca Black's fault; also I don't really understand why some people literally hated her when a bad song doesn't really harm anyone and if you don't like it, just don't listen to it. But I guess some people are just shitty :(
a lot of people take pictures of strangers and post them online, not asking for permission or anything. it's crazy when you think about how many times you did something maybe embarassing in public or wore a fun outfit and someone has it recorded on their phone?
Yes! I live in NYC and I constantly see people doing it especially on trains when they’re completely unaware. It’s so disrespectful!! And it gives me so much anxiety.
When I was 13 I had to go to English classes at 6am (I am from Peru) and I put on whatever clothes I could find that I didn’t have to iron and ended up wearing a full outfit of leopard print, pants, a sweater and my backpack had leopard print. Only my tshirt and my cocerse were just black. So a guy took a picture of me and posted it to a man’s fashion fb group saying that I was a fashion disaster or something. The picture was taken from behind so you couldn’t really see my face. But a friend from school saw it and sent a screenshot to me. There were a lot of comments saying mean things about me, not only about my outfit. Like some thought that I was trying to get attention, others were fat shaming me, etc. I was tall for my age (but I haven’t grown anymore since) so no one noticed that I was in fact a child. My friend defended me and then I just told him to forget about it. It hurt me at the time but then I just forgot since it didn’t get out of that group. At least that I know because the group has 20k members and the post had almost 300 hundred comments. I hope no one put it anywhere else :/
I’ve been saying this for years. At one point people just lost the common decency to acknowledge the rights to privacy, some people telling me that when you step outside of your house you lose your right to privacy.
That happened to me in my chemistry class. Some jerks took photos of me without me realizing it because they thought I looked funny. My high school chem teacher made the other kids delete the photos. I was working on a chem lab, and I was stimming to help myself concentrate (I'm autistic). It was really invasive and embarrassing.
In Germany this would be illegal. You legally have the right to pictures of yourself and can sue people that violate it. I got taught this very early on (like primary school).
I'm always concerned about kids online. The more I think about it the more disturbed I am. The fact that for some of these kids they have had the entire history of their life uploaded to the internet. Literally since they were in the womb and that kind of like digital footprint or history before you can even truly consent just bothers me. And just follows you
I'm interested to see the fall out of having a digital footprint start when you're in the womb. Wait till the next generation of kids start blaming us 😅
Imagine how many icky people have visited those channels. I get worried when my mother posts pictures of me or my siblings as a kid even now, and we're all adults. But posting pictures of kids who are still young and vulnerable? It's horrifying. It's like we've forgotten all about the Lindbergh baby or something. The internet is not a safe place for children period!
The thing about Rebecca Black reminded me of when twitter was dragging Jojo Siwa for doing a crazy dance, a lot of whom are adults. Idk why kids can't just be cringey without grown ass nobodies needing to make them feel bad about it. I think the mockery of "cringe culture" ie; what kids like/do, especially young girls is it's own subject.
Right? It's also weird too when they're pretty much the same kind of people who discourage kids for growing up too fast and or trying to do adult things so it's like, well make up your minds. You either want children to grow up or you don't, which is it?
@Mario mario i think it's really the thought that counts. even though we know who she's talking about and we've seen their faces before, i think the choice to hide their eyes really emphasizes the message she's trying to get across--they're still children and they didn't choose this level of recognition. *hiding their eyes humanizes them from memes into the children they are.*
covering their eyes is a powerful message to send, considering how famous these literal children are. we've def seen these meme kids before, duh. but when i see their eyes covered in the thumbnail i'm reminded that they were minors when they went viral and their privacy should be protected.
This is so important. I’m a very private person and don’t have any social media profiles. If a stranger took a picture of me or recorded me in public without my consent I’d be pissed- and I’m an adult. Doing this to other people’s children or even your own child is gross
so was no one gonna tell me "i smell like beef" "frickin bats" and "im sixteen!!!" all came from the same girl or was i just meant to watch this video and find out
To be frank, I think the average RU-vidr would have (even considering the topic) not censored the children's faces since their images are already out there. The fact that you did sets a great example. It's the principle that matters and I love your respectful, thoughtful approach!
@@lostintranslation57 no it is not people that go to different countries and take pictures with random kids are criticized all the time, if it was becoming normalized this wouldn't be
I too always hated the kids acting or saying stuff that clearly have been fed to them , or kids cursing or dressed like adults , i only find them funny when they're messy and natural . great video
@@TwelvetreeZ i agree. I teach kindergarten and they do say some interesting things that sound very grown up sometimes. However, most of the time, you can tell they are just repeating something other adults have said.
I think privacy is such an important thing for everyone, including children. It really saddens me how some parents will post pictures of their kids online for anyone to see, sometimes before they can even talk. Everyone deserves their own privacy!! Thanks for covering this Tiffany! I love you! 💕
@Faffy Same. Sadly it's a long-standing trend for parents to follow the "my roof = no privacy for you!" kind of thinking. And it really drained me so much mentally to not have any form of privacy (which goes to show how fundamental it is for the human psyche-- we need a reprieve from monitoring our own behavior and having eyes on us. No one would argue that depriving a human of social interaction and colors/visual stimuli is "understandable and humane". Why is privacy any different?). I got reeaally good at sneaking around and lying because of this, but I'd MUCH rather have a healthy bond with them where I can talk to them personally without judgment or authoritarian lectures. Even when I was in some DEEP shit in my personal life, I wouldn't tell them because sharing it with them felt like sacrificing what little ownership/privacy I still had, even though in hindsight telling them could've gotten me resources to make things better. Just goes to show the damage this disregard can do to a kid.
Yes! This is a huge issue in the disability community as well. A lot of “special needs mom”s have blogs and Facebook pages and post every detail of their child’s medical and general life. The big problem is that this often is without the persons consent because either they’re too young to consent or because they don’t have the faculties to consent no matter what their age. Medical stuff is especially private and shouldn’t be shared publicly without the persons explicit consent. Imagine when they are old enough to understand and realize that their mom (or dad, it’s just often moms) have shared every detail of every meltdown and medical procedure and embarrassing moment and that everyone knows about it. What a terrible feeling that would be.
One of my relatives likes to post videos of her kids to snapchat/facebook, and you can tell that her kids don't like it, but she pushes them to continue. :( one time, she tried to film a cute daily interaction between them (I assume), but her son didn't want to do it and said "you just want me to do it so you can show your friends," and she got upset and told him to do it anyway. Made me so sad. :{
In the uk parents always post their kids dressed in the school uniform on the first day of school like ok now I know where ur child goes to school, I could literally just turn up
Over the years I have developed a profound respect for parents that rarely post their children or even for those who don't at all. Kind of shows how they already respect and care about their children's privacy and well being. There are so many creeps, specifically pedos out in this world and for these influencers to know and simply not care yet still exploit their offspring is just telling. Don't even get me started on those who create separate profiles for their underage kids dressed as mini adults 🤦♀️
Just recently I was thinking back in time and thinking about Justin Bieber. Idk how well it fits into this topic but looking back on it how popular it was to just *hate* this kid very openly and almost universally. How graphic and violent much of the hate was. Even if you don't particularly like him now that he's grown up, this was really messed up. It keeps me up at night and makes my stomach ache, man.
@@tiffanyferg this all feels really topical with the free Britney stuff, if you watch the documentary there are some real parallels to how the media treated her
this!!! i think about this so often, it makes me sick how EVERYONE (including myself) hated on him for no reason! looking back now i hadn’t even really listened to any of his songs when i started saying that i hated him. and when a friend of mine and i decided to give some of his music a listen, we actually kinda liked it? and what’s also funny is that nowadays everyone screams along to baby but back in the day we all pretended to hate it?? make it make sense!!
My daughter is a very famous meme, with her image appearing on several tv shows, in magazines, books and even in a few games, a cartoon, and 3d print. It amazes me how many people have used her image, particularly as almost no one (except one kid who was making a video game for a university project and one of the books) know who we are or asked. So this was really ingesting to see how other people capitalised on their kids popularity. We lives in a small english village so the idea of finding a manager was laughable. Funny enough, my other daughter went viral but never been turned into a meme. I still see the other picture pop up occasionally too, recently as part of a viral marketing ad for some travel company in India. Both are much older now and enjoyed being a meme and viral. But as a parent, it was a mixed bag of weird seeing your kids pop up random places and fun to just enjoying the fact i can whip my phone out when swapping photos with other adults and get a good chuckle when they realise it really is my kid
A non-Kate viral kid mom!! Thanks for sharing this; your experience is about what I would expect and such a hard thing to balance as a parent. Glad your kid's are able to see it as a 'fun' thing about themselves that is part of what makes them unique.
We definitely don't talk enough about the post "going viral phase"... How their self-confidence, value, relationship to the world are completely wrecked, at such a young age :/ I can't stop thinking about that when I see kids or young adults that are currently in the "viral phase"..Thanks for regularly addressing this topic, it still does not get enough attention outside the internet world
There's a video of the red sweater guy from the 2016 election and he had some issues post viral fame. Would recommend to watch on the things it does to adults. Also buzzfeed has a video series about becoming a meme. I would check those out too.
The Rebecca Black thing is also so poignant because the family had to kind of battle it out to be able to get revenue from the video. The company behind it was so shitty. It definitely falls into the people taking advantage of kids thing - the company was making money while this poor girl was getting bullied by the whole world.
Released on the 10 year anniversary of Rebecca Black's "Friday" AND the remix release! We stan a timing queen. Everyone go watch it to make up for the childhood shame
I ran into Gavin Thomas and his mom at a concert a few years back. I was starstruck as I was a huge Gavin fan. I chatted with his mom for a while and she asked Gavin to pose for a picture with my friend and I. He stopped what he was doing, posed and smiled with my friend and I, and then immediately went back to playing. For some reason it really rubbed me the wrong way and made me feel bad for him. It seemed almost robotic and has made me feel weird about kids in his type of situation since.
Look I'm not meme but I am the son of a semi-famous blogger who among other things used to post a lot of pictures of my child self. The older I grew the more angry I would get. The blog wasn't a parenting blog, but it did feature a lot of photography. Random people would meet us on the street and know who I was. They would ask about me online. He would try to take photos of me and I would get angry and he would get angry in return about me being fussy and making it into a big deal. I grew up to be trans. I hate that my dead name and gender of child photos are just out there. I have fairly recognizable facial features, and I'd hate for anyone to recognize me. Also, said father is racist and very much not in agreement with my own views, and having to be associated with that? It's embarrassing. I never asked for this. I have pictures of me ages 0-13 easily available if you Google my dead name in a certain language. Pictures I never knew where posted. And I wasn't even required to do any labor, so I can't imagine what it's like for the kids of family vlogers and the such
Yes!!! i was hoping someone would talk about this! Just today i was watching some tiktoks and was severely shocked about how normalised it is to expose little children, they can't give any consent for it! And in one of these videos i saw this kid actually asking his mom to stop recording. I was pretty surprised.
@Mario mario i'm no Karen. And yes, you have to be responsible for the privacy and integrity of your child because until they are old enough to make their own conscious choices, you are the one in charge (as their parent) of their protection. Especially from the internet and the exposure that that implies. A minor can't give any genuine consent because they just can't dimension the danger of exposure, you as an adult must do that.
Ugh yes. I only take pictures and videos of my kids for myself but if they say “no pictures” or “no videos” I stop. The oldest is only 2.5 and he definitely knows when he doesn’t want what he is doing to be documented and I respect that.
@Mario mario there’s a difference between family photos and photos put on the internet. Family photos don’t get spread around, Tiktoks and vines are here forever. I know that if videos of me crying were on the internet before I could understand how being famous worked, I wouldn’t have been happy about it. I think consent should apply in those situations because of the difference and permanence of it.
There is a solid distinction between the family photo album where your family might maybe pull them out to embarass you in front of your future life partner And Mom posted a family photo every pedophile and creepy skeezeball has access to your picture untilt the end of time. Plus everyone else who doesn't have ill intent but might misuse it anyways.
@Mario mario no one is trying to say “don’t take family photos or videos from your children”. I mean, to each their own. But over exposing an underaged person (and by over exposing i mean exactly the examples used in Tiffany’s video) is dangerous. Maybe to you is not that big of a deal, but you don’t know if this type of things could trigger some issues to that child in the future (social anxiety, for example). Every human being deserves privacy, and that includes self image exposure. Yes, an isolated video of a toddler playing with a dog is super cute and probably boosts your happiness, but acting sketches, modeling, constantly recording a kid’s emotions, actions, etc and posting it to the internet (where nothing really gets lost or deleted) is severely dangerous. Can you get our point?
"The sweet spot is between two and four [years old]" from the mouth of an adult man unrelated to those aforementioned kids is the most horrifying quote I've ever come across
It’s 2021. Can we just make it a thing that we *don’t* take photos of strangers in public without their consent? I never noticed it before but, since I got my service dog, I spot random people taking photos of us all the time and it’s very frustrating and embarrassing. I know my dog is cute, and yes, I love dogs too, but it’s not cool and not appropriate. Sometimes people will ask permission and 99% of the time I will politely decline because I don’t want to be turned into “that amazing girl in a wheelchair with her service dog” inspiration p0rn that the media (and the general public) so deeply love.
it's wild how people treat service dogs, people see one and act like they're seeing a service giraffe and have never seen a dog before in their life i mean, i get it, dogs are cute, and it'd be fine to look and think to yourself "that's a cute dog" but it's a completely different think to gawk and coo and try and touch or photograph the dog, there are plenty of dogs on the planet, i'm sure you'll find one that's fine to pet eventually, just keep waiting for that
off topic but you really seem more relaxed now that you're done with college, I'm really happy for you :) (also love that organisation thing for your sewing)
I love a a good thread rack! You can get them from eBay pretty cheap, in either a 60 spool (like Tiffany’s) or a 120 spool (like the one I have. I have a problem with collecting sewing notions). They’re great because you can put them on a flat surface- the have a A frame type of build, or, you can hang them on a wall. Kings like a picture frame. Very useful.
@@xXJokerAtWorkXx thankfully, my kid is a teen now and I don’t have to worry about her doing that sort of thing. And surprisingly enough, my cat leaves it alone too.
I never realized the "I smell like beef" girl was the same as the "i'm a grandmother" girl. kids all look the same, I just assumed... but i agree with all your points!!
It’s a little girl named Katie. In general I don’t think kids should be on the internet but her videos seemed very natural and not like her parents are exploiting her (just since her videos are all skits that she comes up with)
I‘m really confused about all these parents acting like they didn’t know what was going to happen - obviously it’s very unlikely but as soon as you post a picture/video of your kid online publicly, strangers are going to see them. Why would you upload a video to RU-vid (and make it public!!) when you just want to share it with family & friends?
I heard one story about a mom who was super private with her kids. She wanted to have an unlisted playlist of family home videos. On one she thought she made it unlisted like the rest but it wasn't and it went viral. She was obviously suprised and did talk to the news but afterwards, she went right back to being private and even unlisted the video as intended but it lives on forever on the internet. I forget who it is but that's just how one accident can lead to a meme kid
I think that’s assuming that they are aware of all the RU-vid settings though, and aware that things had the potential to go viral. When I was growing up it was unimaginable, when I was in my 20s it just started to become a thing. People did literally used to use RU-vid for sharing videos with people they were close to or just for fun etc. The nearest thing we had when I was younger were these programmes where you could send in home videos and if it was shown you got money. Things can change within a relatively short space of time, and things which seem obvious now, simply weren’t obvious back then
That's what I thought too! If they wanted it to share to friends and family only why not via a private messenger or something? Everything what you post online has a fat chance to go viral these days or like in the situation with this girl and the picture of a stranger where he didn't even ask for permission.
I'm old enough to remember RU-vid in its early stages, before it fully developed into the global content machine that it is now. I'm talking 2005, 2006. Charlie Bit My Finger was 2007. People uploaded all kinds of random shit, many of them home videos, because it genuinely was the only way to share videos even with your inner circle. Most messaging/email servers didn't have the capacity to support large file sizes (or videos at all). Hell, when I was a bored middle schooler I uploaded a ton of embarrassing videos of myself singing off key because it was fun and the internet just felt smaller back then. Online privacy for children wasn't really a conversation beyond stranger danger (e.g. To Catch A Predator). Like someone already mentioned, shows like America's Funniest Home Videos felt totally benign because at the end of the day most of those kids were allowed to fade back into anonymity and not be riffed and remixed into endless memes the way things are today. Things really took off around the mid 2010s as kids started having more of an online presence and becoming the content themselves, in worst cases driven by parents clearly trying to profit off of them. I do think in 2021 people are wising up to the power of social media and potential of virality, for better or worse (either trying to get famous or taking more precautions around privacy). We have no excuse now.
Honestly when you just wanna post videos for your family and you're not too familiar with how the internet works, I can see someone not realizing the consequences of posting a video or photo of their kid
I went to high school with a man whose kid’s photo became a meme. He was so angry and tried his damndest to get people to stop using his child’s photo. It was sad to watch.
PSA: Don't take pictures of children you don't know. If you're a photographer and see a magic moment, ask their parents if it's okay. Maybe offer to email them a copy. Don't post it online. If you have photos of you grandkids, cousins, neighbors...ask their parents before you post them anywhere. If it is not okay with them, then don't post.
rebecca black is actually a musician in her own right today. she's just dropped a 10 year anniversary remix to friday and it SLAPS edit: which is something you said at the end of the video lol gg
Can I just say that as a kid I. Unironically really liked "Friday"? It was shared on a kids forum site (probably ironically but I didn't know) and kid me just kept vibing to it lol
Jesse Slaughter is the one that really messes me up to this day. she was being victimized by an adult predator and the internet humiliated and harassed her and ruined her relationships w her family instead of helping
I'm so glad you made this video. Another thing that always freaked me out with ''meme'' kids pics is adults using them on twitter or ig relating to sexual/18+ content. Like, I get it, the reaction or the expression is what's funny, but it's on a kidddddds faceeeeeeee. So people are literally using gavin or chloe meme reactions when talking and laughing about sexual content and that's a really bizarre and dodgy situation, and I always wondered why no one talks about it. I guess because of my personal experience of knowing lots of latin american memes (those are just... wild, and terrible, and blur all of the ethical lines) where people just laugh at kids with cigarettes, dancing to ''funk'', where people juxtapose kids faces with kinda risqué sentences, it's just... a lot. I worry all the time about what kind of behaviour is meme society normalizing here.
"Kids say the darkest things" - sooo true. My mom is a kindergarten teacher and one of her kids lately asked what my moms age was. When the kid heard that my mom is 59, she said "If you get coro*a, you might die because you are so old. That would be a sad thing". And my mom just had to agree xD She is a sweet girl though.
blow ups like that must be scary like I would grow up thinking "what if that was my peak" or something. Reinventing yourself after being a meme must be so hard
As a former teachers' pet it was pretty emotionally devastating to be known and loved by basically every adult in the school, to becoming nobody in their eyes (because my grades dropped). I can't imagine how internet kids must feel if that happened at a global level.
Ideally teachers wouldn’t pick favorites or decide how to treat students based on grades, but it’s especially terrible that you “lost favor” in their eyes. Kids are already under enough pressure to keep grades up, it really sucks to lose the support of adults around you
I am sure people have said this to you before but I feel the need to express this. I don’t care wether it’s a shoutout or not you never fail to mention the exact people you’ve gotten an idea from. Whether they thank you or not give you a shoutout on their own page or don’t, you never fail to give credit where credit is due and It’s just beautiful to me.
You should have to be older than middle school aged to use social media. It's scary that kids can independently consent to violating their own privacy at the age of 12 and be held responsible for it for the rest of their lives.
@@hayleymarse2853 So you think they should wait until they're 18 and can do anything they want? Part of parenting includes teaching kids how to do stuff like use social media. Only stupid, lazy parents who don't deserve kids think that telling their kids No means that those kids won't be on social media. You think abstinence-only education prevents pregnancies? They'll sneak around and do it anyway, won't know how to be safe, and then not go to you when there's a problem. My daughter is 11 and was allowed to start on social media at 9, with me and her dad, and we've gradually stopped watching over her shoulder. We talk a LOT, and when she saw someone exhibiting signs of being suicidal, she came to me for help. You have to teach your kids, and that means actually letting them go online.
@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria no I never said any of that. I think it’s extremely important that kids learn how to use social media and the internet properly. I just meant that seeing teenagers like Danielle Cohn, Mackenzie Ziegler, Piper Rockelle and other young girls who have been posting bikini pictures is suggestive poses since they were quite young. If a teenager wants to post a picture in a bikini, I don’t care but when very adult clothing brands are sponsoring kids who aren’t even teens yet (a lot of them start around 11 or 12) to promote their brand, it is really messed up. In no world should a minor be posing in a thong bikini with their butt right towards the camera. If they want to on a private Instagram, that’s still not right in my opinion but that’s on them but on a public account with a large following, you KNOW there are going to be creeps who are following just for those types of pictures. I’m not a parent but I am a teenager and I am still really bothered by it because of all of the messed up people on the internet
@@hayleymarse2853 "I honestly think even older kids shouldn’t be allowed on social media." Kids can't learn if they're not allowed online. Parents like the shitheads that Danielle Cohn has aren't the rule.
Imagine being a child and making an embarrassing face, then a stranger takes a picture of you and posts it without asking. Then it goes viral and you go on the Ellen show and people recognise you everywhere. I would hate that as a kid.
The way some of these parents exploit their kids reminds me of lil tay. I know some of these parents or strangers have good intentions but recording your kids having mental breakdowns or private moments to be posted on the internet is terrible. Adults make the internet not safe for children.
I am super interested in learning about the effects of family vlogging and meme kids in the upcoming years. I really hope no one else has to go through what Rebecca Black did.
there was a video of kids talking with their parents about internet over sharing. i, as an adult hate pictures of myself and have to yell at my father to not post anything of me on fb so can't imagine how powerless kids these days must feel about their privacy.
I feel this, my mother constantly takes photos of me and posts on Facebook. I really dislike when she does it even though it is with friends and her account is privated. She practically forces me to take a picture to post to Facebook. It's not good at all, this has been happening since I was like 3 or 4.
Hot take - I'm even weirded out by friends posting pictures of their newborns on private Instagram accounts with 100 followers. As a millennial this was so normalized, posting babies and toddlers to enormous accounts with tens of thousands of followers - and now that I've done a lot of reading on it I am just so stressed out by it.
I can't deny that I love seeing the pictures or videos, but at the same time I'm concerned about them, especially when the parents already have a large following 😬
I think people are going to do this less as time goes on, i.e. gen z will probably not post pics of their kids online. My aunt was always protective of pictures of my cousins being available online, to the point where she asked people to take them down if they posted them without her permission. My mum thought she was being fussy, but nowadays I think she had the right idea
Idk. When I was growing up, we got a lot of holiday cards from extended family and friends, many of which would enclose physical photos and stuff. Way less than we'd have been getting, though, if addresses, etc. of old friends weren't lost track of with moves or job changes or whatever over the years. So I think for a lot of people, an easy to use online version of that sort of thing with adequate privacy measures serves a cool purpose. But...ofc _none_ of these tech companies have given us reason to trust them with that stuff, and digitization's ease of use is a double-edged sword if anyone with access (ex: your cousin who's the worst) decides to share, say, photos of your kids beyond your okayed circle. A conundrum tbh!! 😩
Well at least a photo of a baby csnt really be weaponized. All newborns basically look the same. No one will recognize a particular newborn ya know? I think its worse when the kids are 10+ because they become much more recognizable, even when they become adults.
As a coincidence, just a few days after this video was published, France accepted a law that states that the money made by children in these sorts of situations must be saved for them, and not used by the parents. Also, the parent has to apply for a permission before using their kids in commercial content, since it could almost be classed as child labor.
As a mom I've always been hesitant to share stuff of my daughter publicly. She's adorable and so funny even though she only knows a few words. Everyone who meets her thinks shes the sweetest and funniest child they've met. Her comedic timing is wayyy to good for her age. I know she has a future in entertaining but I worry about her being exposed early or someone getting too attached to her and feeling entitled to her life. I loved hearing about how other parents have handled their child's fame, your videos never fail to entertain and inform 💕
Also, it doesn’t exactly relate, but my brother modeled for a high end designer brand where they featured his and others image on t-shirts and hoodies. A lot of celebrities and influencers were seen wearing them. I’ve also seen them on outfit styling collages. Some kid who has a lot of followers including people who work in or close to the fashion industry started posted a rumor that he went to the brand’s store and heard that my brother was the only one that didn’t get paid. People started running with the story “i heard the black kid didn’t get paid”. That was so annoying because it wasn’t true, and the store employee knew nothing about the hiring process and how the models were taken care of. And the guy who posted it didn’t want to take the post or caption down when we asked him to.
i think its also that people dont have boundaries with children too. like so many times ill meet my parents friends child or a young cousin and ill ask for a hug and the kid will say no and i'll say oh then can i get a hi five but all the parents around me will get mad at them for not doing what i want, like people just dont respect children as people
Yes I agree! A lot of kids feel obligated to accept hugs or kisses from any adults in their life but it’s so important for them to learn bodily autonomy and feel comfortable saying no. Sucks when parents try to force them to
I loved that you talked about this! This topic worries me a lot actually, and thinking of these kids who will grow up and maybe hate the level of exposure they had since they were very young makes me sad. There's a famous little boy in my country whose dad has used for so so many ads and publicity campaings, it's disgusting to see how he takes advantage of his kid and uses him to make money. I hope that boy sues his father for all he's worth when he grows up tbh
On the note of Gavin's cow add- I'm in AP Environmental Science right now and, according to college board, "only cattle burps produce methane. You will not recieve any points for 'cattle farts'."
Speaking further on publicity of children, I think it’s interesting that a lot of A lost celebrities rarely post their children & try everything to keep them private, while some lifestyle/family vloggers do everything in their power to share their kids online
i feel like celebs already get enough money and don’t need any more clout. plus, they fully understand the implications of being famous (hate, bullied, trauma, etc) and don’t want that for their kids which is so admirable. the kardashians could never 😒☹️ then, the family vloggers just want fame so badly and it’s very easy to get rich and famous off of cute and funny things, ie their kids. such a shame that they resort on their young and impressionable children to pay their mortgage!
I love that Ava and Gavin are friends. I can’t imagine how it feels to be that weirdly famous and all alone. Because if they talk to their struggles to other kids that would not understand the feeling.
I feel so bad for the girl who’s mom recorded her crying about going to Disneyland. I was really sensitive as a kid, and it was really beaten out of me by how mean people are to sensitive people and children. If my mom had done that to me, and it went viral, it would have destroyed me.
I feel this way about people who post autistic kids meltdowns, but i I relate so much here, i grew up crying a- LOT only for school ridicule and family to beat it out of me. why are people so mean to sensitive people and people who naturally cry alot?? Its natural 😂
i feel like these parents try to make entertainment seem like play, like something fun, so these kids will do it thinking it's just a fun activity. but it's just.. so troublesome. let children just be children.
this totally made me think of the jimmy kimmel segment where parents film their kids reactions to saying they “ate their halloween candy” and of course it’s to take pleasure and humor in the extreme reactions from the kids......i’ve personally never seen bc kids crying isn’t entertaining to me BUT yeah definitely exploiting kids for views
The Rebecca Black episode on Terrible, Thanks for Asking was really good. I had no idea she was so young when all that happened. She was straight up bullied by literal adults on national tv. Also can’t stop 👀 your sewing machine. Very curious what you’re making!
Every time you said Kate, I was waiting for a Kate Gosselin effect joke. Nonetheless, it's weird to put up a picture of a kid not related to you in your office even if they are a meme.
oyy so real what you say about: are the kids so willing to perform because it gives them connection and approval from their parents.. man consent with kids is such a tricky thing hey. and kids can endure a lot of damaging things out of survival just to please their parents ... thank you for making this video. it’s good to have these conversations, our generation needs to be guides you know, critically thinking about this so we are able to be there to help uplift and empower these kids as they get older and speak up about this stuff
By the way, i think you're such a great youtuber. I really like the way you treat and talk about topics, always being very respectful but also very convincing and accurate. You go, girl!
this is such an interesting topic! when you started talking about parents living off their kids - the kids being the "money maker" of the family - my mind just went to the D'Amelio's twins... I think they are also worthy of a Internet Analysis video!! x from portugal
the girl who did that song “my jeans” had to take a body guard to school because she was harassed so much, people threw pairs of jeans at her, she had a really hard time over what she thought was going to be a fun singing opportunity
This has also got me thinking of children on reality shows from things like Dance Mom and Toddlers and Tiaras, heck even stuff like John and Kate or the Duggar’s. It’s probably awful having someone else decide your life is for entertainment purposes and then not having any other options but to continue to pursue that life because so much of your formative years were spent in front of a camera.
It's awful enough that that man posted a picture of the child looking at the painting online without the parents' consent. It would freak me out as a mother even more to know that I took my daughter out on a trip and some strange man snapped a picture of my little girl to keep on his phone...whether or not he posted it I feel sick even imagining it being there.
As a parent the thought of this happening terrifies me...geez. I don't add many pictures of my child on social media for privacy reasons, but it scares me that someone could literally snap a photo without permission and put it out there into the world.
I just love how consistently you feature and reference other RU-vidrs! I've never been on another channel that does that so frequently! And I love how you mention and recommend small, medium and big channels! Bc recommendations are the best way to discover new content.
I remember how trendy it was to hate rebecca black 10 years ago. Amidst her fame an all the hatred I remeber that she did an interview where she said that she was being bullied so hard that she couldn't go to school and that she was feeling suicidal. She really did no deserved all the hate that she received back then. She was just being a teenager and doing what teenagers do. I'm glad to see that Rebecca is doing better today and that she's found a place in the music industry.
In regards to the scripted videos of kids saying adult things, part of me think it's shatters the illusion so to speak. Everyone grows up and you have your entire life to be cynical, why put cynical thoughts into your kid's head before they need to be there? It seems kind of unfair and possibly detrimental to their mental health in the long run.
I always felt really uncomfortable with a lot of vines for this reason. A couple of videos stick out in my mind that we’re so unsettling; one. the girl hysterically sobbing on the bed watching adult content on a tablet saying “don’t tell mom!” i mean, i assume it was probably a teenager that posted that too but the fact it wasn’t removed and has ended up on so many vine compilations makes me feel sick- like how is it funny in anyway and not alarming at all. which takes me to the second video; “miss kesha miss Kesha! oh she’s fucking dead” girl- i think there may of been a few videos of her in which she was showing violent aggression towards her toys as “play” and her use of curse words. again, videos that kept showing up and kept in compilations. again, not funny, it’s concerning, if the child is reflecting this in play what are they being exposed to in their home life? are they at risk? do videos like this trigger safeguarding? viral videos and memes reinforcing possible dangerous situations and how the context can be skewed as humour but would be absolutely jarring if they were edited into a documentary etc. Why is there positive reinforcement to videos which could have dangerous repercussions?
that first one upset me too bc it reminded me of finding adult content online at her age and the humiliation/hysteria at my mom finding out :( Also that one vine of the little girl in a convertible where the guy filming starts closing the roof of the car over her & yelling like she’s gonna get hurt and she (understandably) starts freaking out & crying like, how was that ever funny?? it’s so fucked
oh my god you just reminded me of a Vine that mortified me for the kid. I will try to be as vague as possible so that I won't give war flashbacks to anyone - but do you remember the Vine of the kid who had his pants off and who was getting humped by his dog ? And his brother (I suppose) came into the room laughing, filmed it and posted it online ? I'm still mortified for this kid, what happening to him after this...
@@kerizella I have not watched nor heard of it, but wtf. Even if the brother was a teenager, he should have known better than to post it. And he should have been concerned, not amused! Wtf
I respect your fears but I think you're taking it a little far, it's not that deep. I pretended my littlest petshop toys got kidnapped by a serial killer. I'm totally fine and was never abused or had violence in my life and I'm now a well adjusted adult. And I mean it is a little funny that a little kid looked up porn and might get in trouble. I do agree the kid was a little too upset to find it really funny, maybe if I knew the kid never got tattled on it would be funnier. But while it may be embarrassing for the kids in the moment, its not going to follow them through life. I would never in a million years be able to recognize any of these kids if they walked right past me, even at the original age. They all look older now so it's even more impossible. Nothing in those vines were dangerous at all, just kids being weird, which kids are.
@@pinkpink-kb6dl It was a hypothetical extreme as I was just suggesting that when children are shown in situations like these, as the audience, you can never know the true context. Is it merely play or is there a risk involved? The more you see things like that displayed as humour the more it blurs what’s in the child’s best interest. Even if it’s just goofiness from the child’s innocence... it’s still a private moment in their home that they didn’t expect to have filmed and then posted online. Plus, just because you and I wouldn’t necessarily recognise them that may not be the same in their own communities and who knows what those repercussions could be. Also, I don’t think the child being caught watching adult content should have been shared. It was an issue that should have been dealt within the family and treated as a sensitive topic. I know children are naturally curious but there’s a difference between a science book and adult content etc. but my main point is it shouldn’t have been shared publicly because it’s a topic they should learn to feel comfortable with and know they can approach someone close to them for help and information and that it will be dealt with confidentiality without shame. Some kids are able to shake off situations like this and in others embarrassment and shame sticks in the back of their heads forever and snowballs into something they can never quite process without something negatively getting in their way. Whose to say what grasp they have on the content they’re watching and will they then mirror what they’ve seen and instigate it during play (a lot of abuse occurs between children) Plus, when it comes to abuse, videos like that would really appeal to certain individuals. Would that child then be at risk because someone knows she’s been exposed to it etc? With the aggression, again that’s something that happens within children. Cops and robbers. Wrestling. Dramatic soaps with twists and turns performed with barbie dolls. There’s play violence we get from TV and Films and then there’s mirroring what’s going on around you etc. Even if everything is all fun, it’s not fair on a child (who is underage) to be filmed and posted without their consent. It’s their age that makes them vulnerable because they’re still at a point where they may not be able to clearly express wants or fears and because of their age their thoughts and feelings are automatically overruled- just for temporary affirmation and attention the senior party / guardian receives for themselves.
a lot of people my age who were the subjects of their mom's mommy blogs are coming forward to discuss the effects on them, this is only the beginning as children on the internet become old enough to understand what has happened to them.
