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Internet Analysis: why do youtubers stop posting once they get popular?? let's discuss some possible reasons and my theories. // small youtuber submission form: forms.gle/1mZdrTY5Un3Gga9q9
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 - intro
1:27 - what it's like to "blow up" on youtube
3:13 - quality or quantity of uploads?
4:10 - popular youtubers can afford to take breaks
5:10 - increased pressure & perfectionism
7:34 - the longer since the last upload, the more pressure
8:12 - Safiya Nygaard's "where have we been?" blog post
10:14 - fear of criticism, self-doubt, & overthinking
13:19 - lose passion, run out of ideas, burnout
14:15 - personal issues
14:44 - move on to projects outside of youtube
17:01 - move on to instagram, tik tok, twitch, etc
18:18 - moving from main channel to second channel
19:58 - from main to vlog channel
21:17 - the value and support of Patreon
22:15 - content creators are craving smaller, more intimate spaces again
24:13 - same reasons people have finstas
25:56 - shifting priorities
26:33 - btw some youtubers are making bank on adsense even without posting
29:31 - submit your small channels to my google submission form!!!
videos & creators referenced:
Kelly Stamps - / @kellystamps
Khadija Mbowe - / dijybaby
Maddie Dragsbaek - / partylikemaddie
ModernGurlz - / @moderngurlz
Mina Le - / @gremlita
Swell Entertainment - / @swellentertainment
Sarah Z - / @sarahz
Jenny Nicholson - / jennyenicholson
PhilosophyTube - / thephilosophytube
Contrapoints - / contrapoints
Courtreezy, "something happened" - • something happened.
Safiya Nygaard's "where have we been?" blog post - www.safiyasnewintrosong.com/s...
As Told By Kenya, "having internet friends is fun... sometimes" - • Video
#internetanalysis #SafiyaNygaard #wherearetheynow lmao
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@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

after an unintentional break... I'm back to discuss why popular youtuber stop uploading, in my opinion!! TIME STAMPS BELOW: 0:00 - intro 1:27 - what it's like to "blow up" on youtube 3:13 - quality or quantity of uploads? 4:10 - popular youtubers can afford to take breaks 5:10 - increased pressure & perfectionism 7:34 - the longer since the last upload, the more pressure 8:12 - Safiya Nygaard's "where have we been?" blog post 10:14 - fear of criticism, self-doubt, & overthinking 13:19 - lose passion, run out of ideas, burnout 14:15 - personal issues 14:44 - move on to projects outside of youtube 17:01 - move on to instagram, tik tok, twitch, etc 18:18 - moving from main channel to second channel 19:58 - from main to vlog channel 21:17 - the value and support of Patreon 22:15 - content creators are craving smaller, more intimate spaces again 24:13 - same reasons people have finstas 25:56 - shifting priorities 26:33 - btw some youtubers are making bank on adsense even without posting 29:31 - submit your small channels to my google submission form!!!

@user-nt8hq1vb7q 3 года назад

Haha the irony of an unintentional break before uploading this

@ukaikeishin8212 3 года назад

Hi Tiffany, thanks for all the videos you've ever uploaded. They're amazing.

@nagitoe7909 3 года назад

damn yall are fast

@98schild 3 года назад

Thanks Tiffany!

@ramayanaroxas5457 3 года назад

Remember how bestdressed said she had a stalker and had to move out?

@eyexha 3 года назад

I have never seen so many verified people in a comment section, all at once.

@ssoomee 3 года назад

Lol it's a RU-vid convention 😂

@Ella-gb7no 3 года назад

ikr wtf im only now seeing this video- i scroll down and i'm like woah... so many check marks

@s29nv1sr1 3 года назад

And so many verified people that I'm _actually_ familiar with, it's insane. This comment section is basically VidCon

@pretty948 3 года назад

Yeah all of our peasant selves comments is buried deep down where no one can see it 😂

@shzarmai 3 года назад

Honestly me neither

@simplynailogical 3 года назад

This pops up in my recommended... I think.... Tiffany is telling me to post a video... 😂😂 Thank you for your well balanced analysis of the reasons behind people may stop/slow down on uploading! I think people forget that many who 'became a big RU-vidr' did not necessarily set out for it to become their lifetime 40+ year career like in the traditional job sphere. E.g. once a young worker gets settled in the average corporate job, they start planning their career trajectory in that industry, looking into group insurance/pension offered by their employer etc, because they expect to work there or in that industry until they retire when they're a senior. The lifespan of a RU-vidr is much shorter for so many reasons but I think one of them is that few RU-vidrs really sought out on this path thinking they would do it forever.

@SO-vw8nx 3 года назад

Omg Cristine! Take your time we’ll be waiting :)

@jomariejg 3 года назад

We love your content Cristine! Your newest videos have been comforting in these times.

@abbyblack 3 года назад

I was just thinking of you and how much content you upload!

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Appreciate you Cristine! 💗

@folded_pizza 3 года назад

Lmao I read that first line in your voice 🤣

@JennyNicholson 3 года назад

I was going to comment that meme like "I'm in this image and I don't like it" but then I turned out to literally be in it and I didn't want to sound like I was actually angry so I guess I'll just comment like, Yeah

@ylhocvhe 3 года назад

and now you’re in the comments too! 💗 this comment section has had the most youtubers commenting i’ve ever seen which is cute, but they’re all a little bittersweet bc they’re relating to the stress and commenting their own experiences.

@liannsmith7317 3 года назад

Jenny and Tiffany would be the crossover event of the century

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Jenny!! 💞💞

@alexandergoodwin-elam6996 3 года назад

I love your channel so much. Take your time, prioritize your mental health. You’re amazing :)

@ethanpierce7382 3 года назад

Yo its my favorite RU-vidr

@ContraPoints 3 года назад

yes

@nour6158 3 года назад

Yes

@mlc2200 3 года назад

Hope you’re well, Nat!

@AiPheeScott 3 года назад

❤️❤️❤️❤️

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

a single word of affirmation from Natalie is all I need

@citizeninsane8518 3 года назад

oh no

@stupidlysublime 3 года назад

Maybe it’s just me, but when content creators (even ones I’m subscribed to) stop posting I literally forget them and forget how long it’s been. Then when they finally post again I am just happy and pleasantly surprised to see them again. People who put pressure on creators to have a constant output need other hobbies. Jfc.

@marissahicks3529 3 года назад

Yo same. It really helps having 1000+ subscriptions across multiple genres.

@littlewyzard 3 года назад

same! My life is pretty busy anyway so i’m not exactly going to notice if one channel i’m subscribed to hasn’t uploaded recently. I hadn’t even noticed that Tiffany was gone! This video was definitely a pleasant surprise though :)

@lindseydejesus1877 3 года назад

lol same! i'm subbed to 3 or 4 of the channels she mentioned and i literally forgot about them until she was brought them up again

@loveland852 3 года назад

That’s exactly what happened to me when Safiya posted a couple months ago.

@naufrage0 3 года назад

Because you’re an adult with a life. It’s usually kids and teen who are freaking out. Which hey, that’s part of childhood. Enjoy your youth and time.

@5am_nightmares 3 года назад

I’m honestly never mad because someone doesn’t upload, I’m never aware on what schedule RU-vidrs are on anyways 😌 Every day it’s a nice surprise who uploads for me ☺️

@blueandpurple5467 3 года назад

same but also it’s very noticeable for me when a creator becomes my absolute favorite but then suddenly stops uploading :(

@kaitycookedwhat3510 3 года назад

Same here haha

@nitzeart 3 года назад

Yes! Besides I follow too many channels to notice when they don't post, most of the time and unfollow people randomly of they don't fit with me and my life now, not because the stopped uploading.

@stupidlysublime 3 года назад

Agree 100% maybe I just have terrible object permanence after all lol

@JauntyAdventures 3 года назад

Same. I've got bad adhd time blindness so everytime a youtuber apologizes for not uploading I'm wondering why they would tell on themselves.

@solpan6828 3 года назад

Tiffany: *makes a video about RU-vid content creators* RU-vid content creators: *gathering in the comments section* Us: 👀🍿

@michaelaf6580 3 года назад

Interesting that they all got here so quickly

@raaadaaa526 3 года назад

@@michaelaf6580 The algorithm do be like that...... It's pretty creepy in a way that it knows what we want to click though

@heatherlee2967 3 года назад

@Stormy38044 3 года назад

@@michaelaf6580 maybe more videos like this one need to be made and then we'll see them again 😂

@Cake-um7je 3 года назад

For bestdressed specifically I feel like her living alone in a pandemic for a long time, having a stalker and then moving again may have had an impact... I hope she's ok, I love her videos.

@kaydwyer6926 3 года назад

Have u recently seen her on Instagram.. she haaaaasaaaa taken fashion to another 2 different hair colour 😝

@leticiaabreu2815 3 года назад

And also people shitting on her for nothing... Honestly, I wouldn't have the mental health to deal with people shitting on my BREATHING.

@Cake-um7je 3 года назад

@@leticiaabreu2815 Yeah, it was getting insane... I respect her taking time off, I just kinda hope she will return one day? I miss seeing her videos, but ofc her happiness comes first.

@raziakarim2223 Год назад

Omggggg sameee I loved her soooo much and her vids were soo fun to me. I literally miss watching her every now and then so I watch older uploads. I really hope she returns tho

@MadisynBrown 3 года назад

being a successful small channel is such a weird flex because people applaud you for having quality content cause it's not expected and the community feels like a fun secret club. in the beginning, everyone wants to see you win but once you get huge that's when people start to turn on you or want to "take you down".

@Chotibunder77 3 года назад

I just started watching your videos the past 2 weeks 😊 love your style!

@MariaSantos-uo3pb 3 года назад

This is a great way of putting it. It’s that switch from the universally popular ‘underdog’ story to becoming another form of the ‘status quo’. Maintaining that golden balance found between the two extremes seems like you’re on a set timer, although obviously some creators can speed up the process of ‘selling out’ by dramatically changing their set up, or, if a vlog channel, showcasing a much wealthier lifestyle as a result of their fame. That disconnect, however substantial, is the key to the eventual shift in perception

@maxworks 3 года назад

well said

@alextroy9202 3 года назад

Yes

@estrellasjournal 3 года назад

you are amazing tho :)

@tom_harlock 3 года назад

oh good god, this video was so reassuring lmao

@sskyla5865 3 года назад

hi king

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Hi Tom!! I’m glad 😌

@lauram7929 3 года назад

I was searching for this comment 😝

@jp93207 3 года назад

Quality over quantity

@pussypussypussypussypussy 3 года назад

aaaayyyyyy tom what are u doing here

@SuperRaedizzle 3 года назад

I love the amount of youtubers in the comments agreeing here. It’s so validating and makes me feel less alone. :) thanks for making this video!

@thebookwyrmslair6757 3 года назад

😍😍

@savannahmroz4106 2 года назад

Rae!!!

@RPGDrone Год назад

If you want to feel even more validated you should give me 1000 dollars.

@Star-c6n Год назад

@@RPGDroneNO.

@LexCroucher 3 года назад

One thing I'd say is that early RU-vidrs actually *didn't* think about careers beyond RU-vid for the most part, because we were just pissing about for fun. So it wasn't that we thought we'd use RU-vid to do something more legit. We had zero plan! Because RU-vid wasn't anything to do with income! Imagine.

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Yes absolutely! I remember watching (and making) so many videos filled to the brim with copyrighted music bc why not?? It was a very fun time. Even when the partner program started, I think it was a few years before it became widely available

@kgal1298 3 года назад

Considering early RU-vid had no way to make money 100% this is true. I have a friend that did RU-vid News back in the day before being monetized and worked with me at Maker. During our time at Maker he stopped his channel completely and moved onto a career behind the scenes in gaming even after he monetized because he knew it wasn't forever, it wasn't fun anymore, and the mental side of being on all the time is hard. He's 100% happier now, doesn't face criticism, and can enjoy his hobby of hiking. For every RU-vidr trying to stay in the public eye is hard to even for traditional celebs the constant barrage of criticism and people being generally creepy can really tear down your mental health so more often than not I found they went their own way for their own mental health and some have gone on to better careers. Though for others they had a harder time transitioning off RU-vid and may still do occasional uploads, though I have no idea where they are now. I think the major lesson I learned from my years working behind the scenes is that if you do make it on RU-vid find a way to diversify your ability to make money and if need be go back to school or find a solid career path that has nothing to do with being on all the time.

@nia0marie 3 года назад

wow hi lex!! a youtube OG right here

@promostk 3 года назад

So true

@Courtney-zl4ge 3 года назад

It feels similar to how people adore small/indie bands when they have a small audience but when they get too “mainstream” or gain a larger fanbase they’re considered “sellouts.” Everyone loves the underdog and will say they deserve more success until they get it and then they’re not a fun secret anymore

@360shadowmoon 3 года назад

Ugh yeah this is so annoying. I actually discovered some now "big"/popular RU-vidrs when they were just starting out, and it's crazy how the tide suddenly shifts from being very encouraging to thinking they are "overrated". Granted, the people who think they are overrated are probably not the original fans, but it's clear they got popular for a reason.

@larsswig912 3 года назад

I see the same phenomenon in the metal community as a metalhead. people love underdog bands and hail them to be the greatest, say that they deserve more success.. then they get that success and old fans bіtсh about this band "selling out". like what _do_ you want, Kyle? it's exactly what had happened with Metallica.

@moose6815 3 года назад

@@larsswig912 Okay but like, i get it. The sheer frustration of someone going "oh you found them through ________" is just so annoying. Like Absofacto being a good example. I loved his shit back in 2013 but i can't listen to it publicly anymore without people mentioning that they heard it on tiktok and things like that. It hurts because when it was you and a few thousand people rather than millions, you felt more connected to the artist and to the people who were in that community. It is irrational, but the best way i can describe the feeling is like an unwanted step parent. The new fans aren't like the ones you are used to, they feel awkward and different and very out of place. It takes time to adjust to it, but eventually both get along.

@larsswig912 3 года назад

@@moose6815 oh I get it. but there are niche sub-communities for even Metallica fans that you can find, ones that are actual die hard fans who dig into everything about the band, make analyses about the music and stuff, unlike the casual ones. so that's cool :) if you just stay away from the mainstream section of whatever fandom, I don't think you'd come across the tik tok people

@Bob-jm6no 3 года назад

I am still amazed that noone mentioned filthy frank/ joji... the guy invented the harlem shake and completely ditched youtube to become a pretty popular singer. I watched the guy bake a hair cake with idubbz and the australian guy (forgot his name), eat it, vomit on camera (and eat said vomit) and now he makes great musik. Sometimes creators get tired of only showing one part of their creativity or they grow out of it. I think he would have been a good example to be mentioned here, even though his departure from youtube is not very recent.

@gremlita 3 года назад

i definitely think people do place certain expectations on big youtubers to maintain a level of "sameness" over multiple years (an unrealistic standard to apply to anyone) but at the same time, there have been so many trends on youtube (comedy skit channels, curated lifestyle vloggers, "relatable" lifestyle vloggers, now i think commentary channels are the most popular) where people who do the "outdated" kind of content lose favorability with the algorithm. it's a catch-22. but i also totally agree that the "woe is me" youtuber whining is tone deaf, and even those i've watched for a long time who have lost viewerships over the years still get hefty sponsorship deals/outside-of-RU-vid opportunities so it's not too bad for them either.

@gremlita 3 года назад

also i totally agree with everything, but especially the part where you talk about "the underrated to quickly overrated" pipeline. i definitely get meaner comments now than when i started because people think that because i have a bigger platform, i "won't see" the remarks or something and the comment section is viewed as a free for all vs. a place to genuinely discuss (i'm speaking about a minority though!). oh and thanks for the b-roll shoutout tiffany! 🥺

@flowergirl5962 3 года назад

Our girl got the check mark ❤️😭 so glad to have found you because of the algorithm, your videos are never overrated they’re pure gems every time

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Yesss the (mean) commenters that don’t expect you’ll read their posts! Sometimes I’ve replied and they’re like “oops sorry I didn’t think you’d see this”

@annieb408 3 года назад

mina!! i love your videos! why am i squealing seeing two of my faves being awesome and insightful together

@flowergirl5962 3 года назад

@@annieb408 same!!!

@leahsfieldnotes 3 года назад

flashback to watching u cut ur bangs years ago and then binging all your study abroad videos, yt was a different world then

@skylerpoduska 3 года назад

I read that as "white" lmao

@applepi3703 3 года назад

MY LOVE

@justineleconte 3 года назад

Very comprehensive summary. I don't do RU-vid full time and yet I can totally see how the pressure (from yourself and others) increases over time - this and the workload are elements that viewers don't always realize/see. And the pace is sprint-like, while it actually should be a marathon.

@heatherlee2967 3 года назад

I love your channel! It's crazy to see you in this comment section.

@heatherlee2967 3 года назад

Thank you for offering your point in this discussion. "The pace is sprint-like, while it actually should be a marathon" -- wow

@deadmeatbones6742 3 года назад

Omg Justine. I love you❤️❤️❤️❤️and your channel ofc 💕

@dananabread6632 3 года назад

justine!

@tnbella7 2 года назад

I love your channel and content!

@dextertravis2611 3 года назад

dangelo was on twitch yesterday saying something along the lines of how he had a realisation of not needing to make a video on every youtube drama or trending topic, chat was being supportive cos hes got a great audience. but i wish more audiences were more like that, i know its more normalised these days to have more support if your saying you need a mental health break, especially compared back to the danisnotonfire days, but still needs more normalisation of youtubers taking breaks, and yay for therapy. sorry this was very stream of consciousness disclaimer: very paraphrased what i said bout dangelo i was jus browsing twitch it was a quick pop in

@KandraOfDreadlight 3 года назад

Does that mean no David expose? I know lotsa peeps been asking him for that 😮

@yulinapoon7237 3 года назад

@@KandraOfDreadlight He talked about that on the stream he did on Tuesday, he was talking about doing other things than just his current commentary basically(wants to do growth and exploration).

@gibigabi1651 3 года назад

@@KandraOfDreadlight he said he’s mostly going to be continuing commentary in 2021 but will shift to something else next year. (Music? Art? Modeling? Who knows!)

@ghoster7600 3 года назад

People on twitter anticipating on a David dobrik vid. Don't if they are the same audience but I'm seeing a disconnect here.

@imani0nline 3 года назад

Why does Tiffany have the ability to answer questions I did not know I had

@user-gt2bn5el2f 3 года назад

IMANI! I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS.

@killerbootz6306 3 года назад

Haha, yes! Exactly right ❤️❤️

@helenamaiste 3 года назад

a summary of her entire channel

@mediocreatbest9203 3 года назад

this comment has the ability to articulate the passing thought I didn't realize I had

@kfcchicken1610 3 года назад

Not related but your so pretty. Like your gorgeous 😊

@CydBee 3 года назад

This video is so validating, you have no idea. I constantly gaslight myself and think I’m over reacting. Thank you for talking about this! 💕

@MsJeanneMarie 3 года назад

Cydneeeee ❤️ Love ya!! hahah and love how all these incredible RU-vidrs are commenting on this video. lol

@meows6811 3 года назад

love u queen 💖

@jaune-soleil 3 года назад

Um... where’s your verification check 👀 who do we need to call?!

@fionnualac4632 3 года назад

I love your content!

@desturner1299 3 года назад

Cydnee!! Luv u

@ColourMeScarlett 3 года назад

A point that I'm surprised you didn't touch on in relation to RU-vidrs such as Best Dressed is the Real Life consequences of becoming "famous", especially for women. At the end of one of her most recent videos (still several months ago), Ashley shared that she was moving out of her apartment that she'd only been in a few months because she'd had a literal stalker turn up outside her apartment more than once and felt unsafe there. BIG YIKES and I can understand how that experience would make her want to take a step back from the internet

@TheAsherShow 3 года назад

This topic reminds me of the wise words of riff raff - 2014 "my main goal is to blow up, then act like I don't know nobodyyyy...."

@theadskipper2928 3 года назад

*dale dan Tony

@lotsofuwuenergy3983 3 года назад

@@jair4320 i too always interpreted "blowing up" literally 💀

@viovenda8922 3 года назад

Our forgotten king

@Em-sd8zm 3 года назад

Very well said

@kennedyjojackson1202 3 года назад

Or the wise words of the rapper ILoveMemphis "I paper chase then vanish" He really dropped "hit the Quan" then dropped off the face of the earth 💀

@aksez2u 3 года назад

I think RU-vidrs are WAY harder on themselves than necessary. I'm particularly thinking of Safiya and the schedules that she sets for herself and then beats herself up if she doesn't meet them. As a viewer, I really couldn't care less if a video comes out on a specific day of the week. I honestly don't know the upload schedule of any of my subscriptions; I'm just happy when I look and see a video from them. I think to be a successful RU-vidr, you have to be super self-motived and driven and that can create internal pressures that lead to burn-out.

@isaniart 3 года назад

The only ones I know are the ones that upload on the same day as me because I watch them after I upload as a treat 😂

@CatMoca 3 года назад

I think part of the issue is that being self-employed (which is what RU-vidrs do) requires a lot of self-motivation. So if you fall behind your deadlines you feel like you aren't accomplishing as much as you used to. But I really think that Safiyaa can afford to take breaks. Her content is great. I don't think RU-vidrs should burn themselves out

@priyabuddhavarapu 3 года назад

Yeah, the line between healthy drive & motivation and unhealthy pressure is so thin. I remember reading Safiya's blog post and just thinking, "poor girl needs a therapist and a nice long break!". In such a public facing position, when so much of your personality and life is up for judgement, you really need a strong support system to help sort out what is and isn't helpful. It seems a lot of RU-vidrs who consistently burn out or have issues putting out work always have some tipping point where they need to come to grips with that sort of thing. Definitely not their fault - 15 years ago this kind of job didn't even exist! We're all figuring out what pressures and pitfalls come with social media fame as it comes, for sure. In Safiya's case I hope she can find a way to move forward constructively

@larissatom6910 3 года назад

Agreed. The amount of RU-vid content a creator posts is a personal choice based on multiple factors. No one should believe the creators owe them. It is okay to miss them though.

@nitzeart 3 года назад

Exactly. Like I follow a lot of people and I have no idea what their schedule is. I am just happy when they upload because it's always a nice surprise. (Like this video haha). I feel like youtubers should work up a pace that works for them. As your followers, we understand. And seek help or rest before burnout. Butnout isn't fun in any job or occupation.

@ArielBissett 3 года назад

This video made me feel so CALM because jokes on us: we're all feeling the same things and worrying about the same things and are all on that precarious edge! It's so solidifying to hear these career anxieties said out loud! And then to scroll down and see so many amazing RU-vidrs feeling the same way.

@dovelyy 3 года назад

damn all the youtuber communities are on this comment section lmao

@heatherlee2967 3 года назад

@zaynabmimi612 3 года назад

OMG DIIDN'T EXPECT YOU HERE HIIIIIII ARIEL, AND YES I TOTALLY AGREE.

@HannahElise 3 года назад

Feeling very comforted knowing so many of us are in the same boat here

@lyndsey5080 3 года назад

Hi hannah! You’re my favorite youtuber...! Nice to see you here. I fully appreciate all of your contents! ❤️

@sarahmbarik7051 3 года назад

Hi queen 🥺

@ayeshag1176 3 года назад

It's always fascinated me how people turn on creators, without being prompted by a scandal or anything. It's almost as if there's a threshold of how many followers you can have before you're overrated. Be successful, but not that successful! Must be so frustrating

@folded_pizza 3 года назад

I think it's the parasocial relationship. You want your "best friend" to succeed at what they do, but once they do, you feel more like "one with the crowd" as if you've lost that "friendship" because that person is too popular. It's also the "I was here in the early days" mentality, you like having a fave that nobody knows, that's indie, but once they're popular or mainstream they become "basic" and you can't flex your unusual and ✨ different✨ taste in (what the fave does). The thing I could compare it with is gamers gatekeeping gaming because "they were there when it wasn't cool" so people who recently started (especially women) are seen as inferior.

@smelliiee 3 года назад

tale as old as time "you sold out man!"

@CupOfTae_SugaKookies_Sprite 3 года назад

Honestly, the word overrated is so overrated 🙄🙄🙄 people throw that word around like it’s nothing. It seems like every time a person doesn’t like some one or gets tired of them, or thinks they’ve received too much love and attention all of a sudden they’re “overrated”. They judge other people for liking them a lot and don’t stop to think that maybe those other people like them because they have different preferences. Overall, people are obsessed with the “underdog”. The hidden gem that they feel doesn’t receive any attention. But when that underdog makes it to the top people turn against them and say stuff like “you’ve changed. You’re not the same anymore. You’re not relatable.” Well uhhh......DUH. Millions of subscribers, fans, views, and money of course will change someone who never had that before. And even without YT, people “changing” is a natural and completely normal part of life and growing up. I don’t freaking get it.

@Bellatrixstrange09 3 года назад

The way people turned on bestdressed... yeah that came out of no where. I remember a few months ago I was trolling around RU-vid and I found a “bestdressed is problematic” video and I remember being super confused...

@ThatGirlMoi 3 года назад

Yeah, I also think when they take breaks, it makes room for smaller creators to grow an audience. They already make a lot of money. Let other people shine! Lol

@maddiegeier 3 года назад

Makes me think of Joana Ceddia who stepped back for medical reasons. I hope she's doing better

@daniboy4153 3 года назад

Yeah, I hope she's doing ok as well

@cheyenn3nic0le 3 года назад

what happened to her medically? i’ve only ever watched a video now and then

@sok8557 3 года назад

@@cheyenn3nic0le correct me if i’m wrong but i think it’s due to her eczema

@oomay1925 3 года назад

@@sok8557 ya you're right. She's had an insane flare up that's just makes her life very difficult right now:(

@cheyenn3nic0le 3 года назад

@@sok8557 oh thanks!

@solarcowgirl 3 года назад

My heart breaks with the Ashley thing, she literally had to move out of her apartment because of a stalker, and she basically announced that in her apartment tour-

@SpecialBooksbySpecialKids 3 года назад

I have nothing to add but just wanted to say I always enjoy your videos!

@AVspectre 3 года назад

Love your stuff! :)

@AVspectre 3 года назад

I think that people miss out on your content as they think it’s primarily books, while it’s actually learning from the first-hand experiences and lives of kids/folks with unique perspectives (often highlighting life with a particular condition etc.) I think many people who enjoy Anthony Padilla’s more recent style of interview content would really enjoy the conversations you have as well.

@murfymurf 3 года назад

I love your channel 💖

@youllbemytourniquet 3 года назад

I love this channel so much, it’s very sad we can’t comment on the videos

@VoidedMirror 3 года назад

I really miss Safiya. Her content is really binge worthy. Also, I feel SimplyNailogical has really taken over the JennaMarbles space ever since she left.

@kathrynsinger3198 3 года назад

I feel like SimplyNailogical is too Holo Taco focused now so I’m not as into it since I’m not super into her brand. Which like I don’t blame Cristine, get that money

@charlottehollingsworth9125 3 года назад

Yeah it feels like Cristine has leaned more into her innate Jenna-ness now that there is no more Jenna.

@trtotally 3 года назад

I watch/listen to her podcast rather than her videos in her main channel. Cristine and Ben have really interesting thoughts.

@ryliedarlington2095 3 года назад

@@trtotally Same here! I listen to her podcast more than her regular videos. I look forward to it every week

@blueandpurple5467 3 года назад

@@trtotally yesss I actually prefer their podcasts and stopped watching her regular uploads, I feel like the content on the pod is much closer to just commentary stuff which I like

@mallorismith3126 3 года назад

I miss Ashley's (bestdressed) videos so much. they were like me self-care ritual where I could at least pretend to hang out with the cool "older sister" type girl but then her videos got less and less frequent. I was really disappointed, but then in her most recent video, she talked about *having to move out of her apartment* because she was uncomfortable with a fan stalking her apartment to ask her out. I get it now. posting content to RU-vid isn't worth the stress, mental health, and *SAFTEY* of people I genuinely wish the best for (or anyone for that matter) So, Ashley if you read this, I hope you do whatever you feel is best for you. you're content is wonderful but so are you. YOU ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR CONTENT!!!

@monevrar7728 3 года назад

She was STALKED? OMG I hope she's safe now. I dont sub to her but at one point i binged her videos and she seems like she makes a great friend.

@sasonali3606 3 года назад

I miss her so much.. Hope she's doing good.. Ashley you're best..

@someonerandom9731 3 года назад

At what minute does she start talking about bestdressed? I feel like I missed it, and I miss Ashley too

@sasonali3606 3 года назад

@@someonerandom9731 I started watching this video on the second I see Ashley’s photo. I didn’t hear her name.

@mallorismith3126 3 года назад

@@monevrar7728 It was in her latest undecorating apartment video. She said a fan discovered what her building was and was able to find her apartment by the window decorations. She woke up one morning to find a note on her fire escape: "You seem so hot and funny in your videos. will you go out with me? I promise I won't be an axe murder and dump you in the woods lol"

@meghanhughes 3 года назад

on the patreon note, MAKE ONE! the freedom is incredible. i really enjoy having it as a separate platform for not only the smaller community & connection i have with my viewers, but also because i don't have to be a slave to the algorithm LOL. also for me personally, i have struggled in the past with youtube demonetizing my content due to me talking about anything from bras to BLM sooooo it's really nice to not have to deal with that bs!

@moonmaiden13 3 года назад

But we can't pay for patreon for each youtuber

@booksnlipstick 3 года назад

@@moonmaiden13 let alone the international currency exchange rates to support creators on Patreon.

@bloodorangemoon 3 года назад

@@moonmaiden13 I'm a patreon for Christine McConnell, she's incredible and completely worth it. But that's the only person I have a patreon with. Just couldn't help myself. She is kinda unreal and so entertaining.

@heatherlee2967 3 года назад

@dr.m6152 3 года назад

How do you get to it??

@lucymarshall1090 3 года назад

this comment section is like a hangout for all of my favorite creators

@DriftingMiasma 3 года назад

Me: enjoying Tiffany's video as usual Her mic: 🧍

@amymarie9107 3 года назад

This comment made me laugh out loud for real ☠️☠️

@Bronnybronny 3 года назад

@brideoflevi 3 года назад

Thank you I could not figure out what that was!

@angeliquehumcke3050 3 года назад

This made me lol too!!!

@JREG 3 года назад

Therapy gang 😎

@whale_inc9646 3 года назад

is that actually a cool thing?

@charlottehollingsworth9125 3 года назад

HELL yeah

@littlesimsfreak2931 3 года назад

I didn’t expect you to be here-

@ideatician4280 3 года назад

@@littlesimsfreak2931 Me neither :o

@holymessengerofbibble3363 3 года назад

@@whale_inc9646 Yeah, it's cool to improve your mental health.

@aliciadear 3 года назад

Micarah Tewers is one who def does quality over quantity. Her personality actually reminds me a lot of you despite the fact that her content is not at all like yours. She doesn’t post often but I found her VERY early and watched her channel explode!

@julzmarlin9260 2 года назад

Same. First video was vacation wardrobe and now she has so many viewers. She is living her life without being a slave of RU-vid

@jasminele 3 года назад

i needed this

@sophiasieczka 3 года назад

I remember having that small youtuber preference. I subbed to Joana Ceddia when she was SUPER small-like 200 subscribers small. Once she became "mainstream" it didn't feel like a cute little exclusive club anymore, and I found myself being less interested in her. I try to call myself out on it because it feels like such a "I'm not like other girls, I like small underground youtubers" thing. However I cannot deny the distance you feel when you start seeing big sub numbers, and I tend correlate that with being overrated, or changed, even when the content is as good and relatable as ever. I really gotta stop bleh

@phosphenevision 3 года назад

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with preferring smaller communities, you don't owe any creator your continuous support. You don't need to feel guilty about how you prefer to spend your time online, you can just move on to where you prefer to be, I think the problem is just criticizing creators for being successful, which is absurd because of course they want to be.

@sophiasieczka 3 года назад

@@phosphenevision Yes I agree! I didnt make that point, but I definitely criticized them for being successful. I guess it was just me being bitter? Also I never felt shame for prefering smaller communities, it was that I saw it as superior to other people more popular choices. It was ridiculous, but yeh not trying to shame people for liking small creators.

@malec56 3 года назад

Yeah i know what you mean, i like both big and small channels but small channels have the upside of an community where the youtuber for example answers to mist comments etc.

@myextraaccount4340 3 года назад

Not to be rude, but I’m pretty sure Joana blew up from her first Emma chamberlain video and gained around 50k subscribers within the first month of RU-vid. She was only small for a very very short amount of time and the calibre of her videos didn’t really change all that much until the Brad Mondo phase.

@sophiasieczka 3 года назад

@@myextraaccount4340 not rude at all !

@Motley14 3 года назад

I don't know if it's because I'm a little older (32) and didn't grow up with social media, but when RU-vidrs I like stop or infrequently upload I just shrug and say "this might suck a little but they ultimately don't owe me anything". I could never fathom being mad at a RU-vidr, who I don't pay a cent to watch, for not uploading. And there a dozens of others frequently uploading I can always watch instead. However, if I pay for someone's Patreon (or... Onlyfans haha) and they don't upload I'm not pleased because I'm directly paying them for content they're not providing. But even in that case I'm still not actively mad. The whole thing kinda reminds me of rock bands back in the day. When they're indie, people love and root for them to get more popular, but when they reach a higher level of fame, people get mad and say they sold out. Kind of a lose-lose.

@gpgp1841 3 года назад

Yes! As a 31 year old I totally can relate to your description! Plus, I didn't grow up with following RU-vid channels at all. I remember we used it just for listening to music and maybe some super silly videos but that was it. I didn't feel attached to any creators. And now I have fun discovering specific channels but I don't have so many expectations.

@helenavasic9989 3 года назад

Agree totally! (Especially with the end sentiment i hate when people do ads and people call them a “sell out” unless Ofc they have ever claimed to never want to do a sponsorship) I think I don’t 100% fall into this as lol I’m younger (19) but I have various interests and subscribe to different content so I’m definitely like you in the sense that when people start doing slower uploads I can move on, I will say like this video seeing those faces I do feel bad and miss them. (Mostly the ones that you’d watch every video too) I’m not gonna lose sleep over it but I definitely feel nostalgic from time to time. That’s my take lol

@lorrainehackett4786 3 года назад

I completely agree with this sentiment too except In 19 and basically did grow up with youtube and social media. For me, its really just leaving a youtuber alone (or interacting with their other social medias) until they post again and then I get to watch.

@jokl89 3 года назад

I’m 31 and I totally agree! When a RU-vidr doesn’t upload fir a while I’m more likely to think good for them for taking a break or if they are absent for really long I start to worry a little about their (mental) health

@Tom_Nicholas 3 года назад

I only realised recently that this is why (even as a medium-sized creator, if that) I like Patreon so much. Particularly when I’m between videos, I don’t necessarily want to tell EVERYONE what I’m working on, but I also feel weird if NO ONE knows what I’m up to as I have no idea whether it’s interesting or not. I love sharing updates on Patreon as it’s a nice middle ground between sharing EVERYTHING with EVERYONE all the time and feeling like I’ve completely gone off the radar for a month.

@heatherlee2967 3 года назад

@soccerruben1 3 года назад

‘Sup mate! Saw your video critiquing fellow content creator Johnny Harris in regards to his sponsorship and how it ties into that video you called him out on.

@comradepolarbear6920 3 года назад

@Dorothy Zbornak it's a political philosophical type channel but more political

@KelliMarissa 3 года назад

I think it'll be interesting to see how things change in the future, with young people now considering "content creator" as a long-term career and planning for it. As a lot of people have mentioned, I think most of the original creators weren't planning on being RU-vidrs forever.

@thebookwyrmslair6757 3 года назад

😍😍

@LivyRivy 3 года назад

Yoooo Galaxy Gang

@KristenLeo 3 года назад

I've been wondering where half my favorite creators have been, this video came right on time

@sdf23888 3 года назад

You're amazing!!

@arrahmasyafrani9010 3 года назад

Sameeeeeee :(

@ouioui1104 3 года назад

i feel so bad whenever I see Ashley's(aka bestdressed) name pop up on youtube cause her fandom is so toxic. I understand why she wants to post less, cause her "fans" want her to fail so bad even tho she seems like a genuinely good person!!!

@fesique 3 года назад

Seriously though. I don’t understand how such a sweet person managed to attract so many wackos

@ouioui1104 3 года назад

@@fesique YES!!! she has never said or done anything that would justify this much hate! People are mad at her for making brand deals and going to fashion weeks, but she's an influencer, that's her job, clothing is what she does! her name is bestdressed for a reason!!!

@sophiabroom 3 года назад

Yes she never seems righteous in what she says but she aware which is what I expect from a 20 something old. I follow British study tube a lot and my issue is that some present themselves as if they have the answers but Ashley doesn't which is what I respect

@phosphenevision 3 года назад

@@fesique it's a lot of jealousy

@nicolegoose567 3 года назад

Not me 🤢🤮 I want her to WIN

@beckiejbrown 3 года назад

I have been on here 14 years. Golly it is difficult to keep it going unless our life changes too. The lack of career progression, engagement, marriage, new home content or pregnancy, in addition to my appearance changing due to illness... killed my following. The pressure to showcase life in an order to continue to grow... is overwhelming. If you dont adapt or cater, you die or slow and disappear. I've basically died out, but keep going for myself. The abuse, harassment and the stalking too its toll too. I had enough years ago and its had lasting impacts on everything in my life. The internet loved it when my Grandad was dying with cancer.... I still havent got over that yet. When my Mum was diagnosed last year, people told me they wanted her to die. The endless abuse changes how we are and feel about our lives, bodies and selves. It's not fun or safe anymore.

@lisamedla 3 года назад

I'm sorry about that...nobody should have to go through it.

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

I remember your “she takes a photo” project! I was doing a 4-5 year long selfie everyday project too so it was really inspiring. I’m so so sorry you’ve faced so much harassment and abuse.

@AnneMaaikie 3 года назад

Just here to let you know I still follow you on IG and RU-vid❤️ It kills me to see people be so rude to you 😔 Still here to support you since your photo-a-day post ✊

@toniamark 3 года назад

Never understood why people were so mean to you 🙁

@teszter704 3 года назад

Sometimes your video in the loft when you danced around pops into my mind. Also, you introduced me to Doctor Who, which became my comfort series. Thank you Rebecca.💛

@ItsGins 3 года назад

I can't speak for everyone personally but I agree with Nailogicals comment in a sense where most of us didn't expect this to be their career as they started and SO so SO many of my youtuber friends have also started at a very young age, in highschool (me included). Doing this full time doesn't give you much breathing room in terms of figuring out what you want your actual career to look like and it causes a lot of burnout and hesitance 5-10 years down the line, since you become way too hyper focused on content creation to think of other, more secure avenues.

@EldenaDoubleca5t 3 года назад

Oh hey something I actually have personal experience with (kinda)! I'm a medium sized channel and I stopped posting for months because a) I realized that I didn't enjoy making the kind of videos that made my channel blow up, and b) I don't actually want to do youtube as a full time job so my motivation to do something on here I'm not crazy about is VERY low. I'm in the process of switching up my content right now and it feels great to get back to making stuff that's not a slog to produce

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Totally understandable! Hope you find some fresh inspiration in a new direction 💗

@JauntyAdventures 3 года назад

Any tips to someone starting out on how not to get boxes in?

@pomskol 3 года назад

Whatever you do there will always be people there to support you :D

@griffoverbey2863 3 года назад

Love your podcast!, Min and Yang is the best rwby content around.

@bimbonationalism 3 года назад

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy making them because it's why I subscribed.

@EmmaAnimalWelfare 3 года назад

You'll never please someone who's committed to misunderstanding you. General words to live by that can help manage anxiety over expressing our beliefs publicly.

@illchangemyusernamewhenith9130 3 года назад

Wow that is a powerful sentence, I'll be thinking about that one in the future. Thank you for sharing!

@EmmaAnimalWelfare 3 года назад

@@illchangemyusernamewhenith9130 honestly, it's helped me to not be scared of just going for it and putting my content out there. I know there'll be backlash over my content eventually, but it's not meant to convince everyone to agree with my view - just to inform people and guide them in a more positive direction 😊

@Allisonsaul 3 года назад

Wow this sentence really resonates with me! It’s a great “life motto”....

@EmmaAnimalWelfare 3 года назад

@@Allisonsaul 😊 it is! Glad I could share it with you

@Longhairprettynails 3 года назад

This was in my recommendations and I feel RU-vid is trying to tell me to get back to uploading lol. I feel slightly attacked 😂. I definitely can relate to all of the reasons some creators slow down or stop uploading. For me I realized having a work life balance is so important. Many don't understand the hours of work that goes into every upload (for me at least) from filming to editing. The work hours can get out of hand if you let it. Year after year of it on top of other pressures that come with being a "Big RU-vidr" can be taxing on the mental health. I am super grateful that I am able to take a step back without the pressure of worrying about finances. That's a luxury I couldn't afford in my previous job. As with anything in life balance is key. On another note, great content. I'm about to binge some more 😉.

@dannaalquati 2 года назад

I love you for making this video, seeing the comments made me feel less alone. I thought I was the only one feeling insanely anxious over RU-vid/Social media creator pressure.

@Dina8485 3 года назад

bestdressed was briefly mentioned and her last upload she mentioned that she was having issues with a stalker so she had to move 🙃

@Mockingfray 3 года назад

Isn’t that the same video where she said she slept with a Republican and smiled proudly about it? Yikes. Maybe she should stay off RU-vid

@AmatisoveLove 3 года назад

@@Mockingfray so you can only ever have sex with people who have the same views as you, even though it was clearly meant to be a one time thing? yikes, sounds like shaming a woman for her sexual life to me

@jennasabourin8179 3 года назад

@@Mockingfray this reply was ugly, you should probably stay off RU-vid, you’re reaching

@BuddleDuddle 3 года назад

@@Mockingfray Yikes, seems like you're plagued by some black-and-white thinking. Such thinking is very damaging, to yourself and to others.

@BrendaGarcia-ty2ml 3 года назад

She’s also a covert narcissist and incapable of apologizing for what’s she’s done, so he just leaves.

@alli_sonc 3 года назад

something really interesting that i was expecting you to bring up is a large majority of the creators you mentioned (especially in the beginning) are women. we’ve seen time and time again that women are more critically viewed on the internet - even (and especially) by other women. bestdressed and i are the same age and i’ve always loved her videos, and i miss her a lot, but her comments sections can be difficult to read - and i’m not even her. that absolutely has to take a toll (like saf mentioned) and makes other smaller, more positive platforms look much more enticing.

@beccamatilda8621 3 года назад

I 100% think this is what was/is driving Ashley from YT, I wasn't super early with her content but her comment section is pretty rough anymore with her videos. it makes me sad that she felt she could be so open about her mental health issues and people are still so harsh.

@marts3104 3 года назад

tbh this even applies to youtubers who are part of a minority or marginalized group: youtubers who are from the lgbt+ community or are people of color. theyre more prone to criticism or are usually regarded in such a high standard-if they underperform or make a mistake theyre suddenly a 'flop'.

@myextraaccount4340 3 года назад

I totally agree! I was an early subscriber and watching how the comment section changed overtime from supportive and delighted (her early videos have very refreshing social commentary that was pretty novel at that point) to overcritical and nitpicky was pretty heartbreaking because it changed the way she could express herself and obviously affected her confidence. I think also when people started to make ‘bestdressed problematic’ videos, this probably ate at her self esteem in a way that most people will never know about. I think it’s so sad that her fan base was obviously a huge part of the reason she left :(

@cookieaddictions 3 года назад

Great point. People are so harsh on Ashley and I don’t know why. Nothing she does will please them. Even if she goes out of her way to acknowledge privilege and not step on anyone’s toes when she talks about her personal experiences, people seem set on taking everything she says in the worst way possible. I hope she’s doing well.

@m.josena4485 3 года назад

@@marts3104 yikes😭and here I thought of starting a yt channel

@stephanielange 3 года назад

im only halfway through and i LOVE this video! you've put how i feel into words (especially the anxiety / health anxiety stopping you being able to work). I appreciate you!

@juliar.3702 3 года назад

Not sure if it’s just me, but if my favourite creator stops posting, I won’t necessarily think they’re lazy or ungrateful. I’ll think “Oh I wonder if there’s something wrong” or “Oh I miss their content but I’m excited for them to return”. As a viewer, to all the creators who may be struggling with this, know that so many of your viewers eagerly await new content and won’t judge you at all! Edit: super interesting video!! So well done

@meganchambers8108 3 года назад

When she was talking about second channels, all I could think was "This is where I like to get a little bit crazier, a little bit goofier, and drink La Croix."

@PanicattheDiscourse 3 года назад

And even he started a third he never linked in anywhere just to play games in a chill manner, and it hit 100k+ organically in days.

@PanicattheDiscourse 3 года назад

Not organically* specifically, but through algo recommendations.

@solevazquezmaria 3 года назад

LOL, I was thinking exactly the same

@leenaf8322 3 года назад

@@PanicattheDiscourse he mentioned it on his Instagram, many people probably found it that way

@Cayla2015 3 года назад

What I learned from this video: Tiffany and I watch A LOT of the same content

@MoonlightJewel 3 года назад

This was wonderful. I’ve been feeling this a lot lately. Especially when you are creating art stuff it can be so draining to make videos because your artworks already take so long to make and then you still need to edit the video and make everything look perfect. And that’s all things people usually don’t see. Thank you die this insightful video ❤️💖

@mochienn 3 года назад

love u and dollightful sm

@sarahbethyoga 3 года назад

YES. I’m so glad this is being talked about! Thank you Tiffany, love your content but this one was 😘👌🏼

@madeehamirza8944 3 года назад

I think a good example of this is what happened to Ryan Higa he was a huge RU-vidr and still has a large following but he talked about how he went through a crisis which really shifted the content and he hasn’t posted on his main channel in a long time

@thefrancophilereader8943 3 года назад

Yeah. Ryan Higa immediately came to mind

@hibashams 3 года назад

love the content he’s producing on twitch now tho!!

@ALA516 3 года назад

Ashley from best dressed gets hounded on so much for her humour too... as if there aren’t male youtubers who have the same type of humour. Honestly, it feels like creators often can’t win, especially female youtubers. It just hurts to see the baseless remarks made against them instead of what could be valid criticism. They’re human too.

@SuperLegoman345 3 года назад

I love ashelys humor so much I really don’t get why people were so mad about it. Everyone does sexual and self deprecating humor but ppl were making her out to be a bad person for it??? Like those are well established forms of comedy inside AND outside of the RU-vid bubble!

@fa1ruz 3 года назад

Oh. I was not aware of this

@SuperLegoman345 3 года назад

@@fa1ruz there was like a wave of cancel videos about her during quarantine (spring 2020) about like her humor, her parents being well off, and her Amazon partnership and then there was a second wave in the fall after she did the video about HER personal covid experience. Ever since she moved from LA a considerable amount of her fan base turned on her for no reason.

@minxx. 3 года назад

bruh when I read “best dressed” for some reason I thought about Animal Jam 💀💀

@meh5872 3 года назад

@@SuperLegoman345 fr I literally saw this girl comment like a whole ass paper trying to convince people Ashley was this racist hypocrite just because she didn't credit a street artist on one of her videos since she showed a 3 second clip of their artwork that was on sidewalk. (she even later credited them) People just need to get a grip and stop borderline obsessing over someone they literally do not know. I'd understand if she was out partying everyday and literally risking peoples lives like other influencers but she's not.

@ColinandSamir 3 года назад

This was phenomenal 👏🏼👏🏾

@MelinaSophie 3 года назад

Extremely relatable. Greetings from Germany!

@rachelgrant2401 3 года назад

I feel like SO many youtubers are always like, "Sorry about the lighting, it just rained and this is what I'm working with," or "Sorry my self-tanner looks weird on my hands," or "Sorry if you notice this one tiny hair out of place, I can't get it to stay down," stuff like that. It's constant, so many disclaimers and breaks in videos to explain every single tiny thing, especially as of late. I totally get where you're coming from with anticipating criticism - I almost feel like it's a catch 22 though because so many RU-vidrs call it out before anyone in the comments does and that almost draws more attention to it. I am not a RU-vidr so this is just an observation as a viewer. This video does a great job at explaining why things like that seem to happen!

@dressrelief 3 года назад

I notice this too. Tiffany even did it herself at the beginning of this video, mentioning her bleached hair and needing to get a haircut! (Which was unnecessary, her hair looks great!)

@LivyRivy 3 года назад

Thank you for bringing this up!! It honestly drives me kinda crazy. I'm like staahhp apologizing for everything.

@cristlewrite7944 3 года назад

Lolll all RU-vidrs are slowly becoming Canadians

@ebgbjo2025 3 года назад

I think this is also what made earlier YT more enjoyable. So much of YT is more about production quality/over production rather than content and far too much of everyone doing the same thing. Not much unique content these days.

@_Sharon_J 3 года назад

My favourite one is 'I look disgusting today' or 'my hair looks disgusting today'. Meanwhile, hair looks amazing!

@Katherout 3 года назад

one of the paradoxes of doing youtube FT is that it's NOT a 40-hour, 9-5 job yet thanks to ~capitalismo~ so many youtubers are still throttling to work as much as possible! IMO success as a self-employed content creator would look like LESS labor than my corporate job not more. tbh it's admirable that kelly stamps says she works 15 hours a week and is able to support herself and still grow her channel

@mentallyunstable1926 3 года назад

this feels unrelated but i wanna see a wrestler named el capitalismo where it’s just a businessman who sends other people to fight his opponents and then takes the win

@helenatube 3 года назад

That Kelly Stamps is a frighteningly smart girl. I don't think most are like her.

@qwertyboo 3 года назад

Kelly Stamps is a weirdly unique gal

@QuarterCastle 3 года назад

I understand Kelly's appeal, however I think her video production looks like it definitely took that amount of time.

@Ethan-jr3xu 3 года назад

I fail to see how capitalism is forcing these extremely wealthy creators to continue to work constantly.

@angelofmusic3044 3 года назад

So many RU-vidrs I watch sparingly or like a lot in this comment section lol interesting. I guess the video spoke to them!

@KhadijaMbowe 3 года назад

*Laganja Estranja voice* I FEEL VERY ATTACKED LOL jkjk But seriously, thank you for this. I had/am having such an interesting time "blowing up" as the kids say. But that point about research and not wanting to post a video that doesn't have as much of it...AN ENTIRE MOOD. I'm like, "Khadija, if you don't cite at least ONE scholarly essay do you even have the right to post this???" It's wild.

@hannahstolzer2085 3 года назад

I love you! I love just listening to your opinions. I’d find videos listening to ramble about nothing soothing. You always have the right to comment on things

@grimmgoosegoose216 3 года назад

I would watch you rant about a bird you saw for 20 minutes no questions asked, I love your in depth analysis but sometimes you just want to hang with your Auntie you know? -From a newly subbed nibling

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Hahaha after watching your essays I’m like... wow I need to read more. Brb heading to Google scholar!! but as a viewer I watch for your personality and your perspective, no pressure to be super academic all the time 💞

@KhadijaMbowe 3 года назад

@@tiffanyferg *cries* thank you LOL but seriously, thank you. You ever want to do a collab you let me know girl!

@KhadijaMbowe 3 года назад

@@grimmgoosegoose216 LOL I love that hahaha

@qwertyTRiG 3 года назад

Tom Scott now takes a break every January, and has guest videos instead. A way for him to have time off and to boost some smaller channels. I've discovered some great people because they've had guest spots on Tom's channel.

@qwertyTRiG 3 года назад

ru-vid.com/group/PL96C35uN7xGIIU-rdtWNC3LnDsam8NQii is the playlist of guest videos.

@authenticallytrish 3 года назад

Remember when RU-vid was just people uploading what they wanted, when they wanted to and there wasn’t this pressure to be like a full on tv show for everyone each week?

@DoraWinifred 3 года назад

I’m honestly forgetting that the RU-vid audiences are really young because older ones should know and understand that these people have lives and do not exist to constantly entertain us, what’s even more messed up is that provide us content for FREE where did this entitlement for free entertainment come from?!

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Yep!! I’m glad my audience is pretty much all 18 and up because everyone’s generally very understanding

@Gross126 3 года назад

I think this is what happened to Janelle the van girl. She grew way too fast and couldn’t cope with it.

@uchenitsa 3 года назад

What happened to her?

@bediracule4600 3 года назад

She definitely came to my mind as well while watching this video

@jewelialexi 3 года назад

She was popular immediately on her literal first video, when I saw the hype it was getting, I was so amazed! I don't see her pop up on my homepage as often or check in as frequently now :( Her videos were so good and she deserves more love nowadays :(

@thechrisverhoeven 3 года назад

wow yes, that was quite the blow-up. Did you see her interview with Philip DeFranco? I don't think Janelle couldn't cope with it. It just came as a surprise to her. Don't forget that it was never her intention to become a full-time RU-vidr or anything like that.

@Gross126 3 года назад

@@thechrisverhoeven yea maybe? I think most of it still applies though. She started making only commercials videos and her supporters weren’t happy with her posting schedule. It’s better to grow slowly.

@helenross3037 3 года назад

in case you read this - honestly, I do prefer internet analysis out of all your series HOWEVER I think everyone on here would agree that the main reason we watch your videos is because we love listening to you talk about things you're interested in. I still love your more chatty videos because it's content you care about so it's engaging and fun. xx

@KarolYuuki 3 года назад

Yeah, I love internet analysis, it was the reason I subscribed. BUT, I also enjoy the reality show videos and the nuuly reviews so much. Even when the videos are more relaxed than others, I'm here because I like to see Tiffany's take on things (also because I love clothes and her style)

@cinemoni 3 года назад

you're so right. having a small, tight knit community is so nice because you are able to read and reply to every comment, you can even recognize almost everyone that comments on your videos and support you, and you mostly get no negative (hateful, not talking about constructive criticism) responses. it's like you form your own little family. at the same time, you definitely want to blow up and have your channel and content be seen by millions, but with that comes sooo much negativity that can be harmful to your mental health. it's a weird internal struggle but i can definitely understand why a lot of big channel disappear. i can imagine the pressure they must feel to know so many people are watching and therefore criticizing... it must be overwhelming :/

@tamerebel 3 года назад

Thanks for your insight! I enjoy your channel because it feels so cosy and not commercial so I get the small community part

@JiixBooks 3 года назад

Deffo agree especially also on how the community feels like a little family group chatting away and enjoying themselves Love your channel btw 🌻

@tamsinsylvie4331 3 года назад

i love your channel Monika!! ❤️

@ss-hc7tb 3 года назад

hey film fan ! me too

@rowana.eltahir9948 3 года назад

Gurl omg ❤️❤️❤️❤️ i love you so much

@swarny6 3 года назад

it almost seems like there should be therapists who specialize in the needs of youtubers ?? i'm sure it's been a thing for entertainers before... but my therapist is a 60 year old lady and it would take a lot of explaining the context to begin with

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

hahaha I specifically sought out a young-ish therapist for exactly this reason, hoping they'd be able to at least loosely understand what I'm talking about!

@swarny6 3 года назад

tiffanyferg that makes a lot of sense! it’s kind of a toss up, older therapists may have a lot of experience but give you weird advice about dating apps 🤷🏼‍♀️ anyways, I’m just thrilled you saw this! Your work is great and I hope the anxiety is becoming more manageable ❣️

@Chotibunder77 3 года назад

There is a therapist on RU-vid called The Healthy Gamer, obviously he specializes in treating gamers, but he just released a video with Jacksepticeye. I wonder if he’ll branch out to work more with other RU-vidrs.

@katherinemorelle7115 3 года назад

@@Chotibunder77 is that Dr K? I know he’s also done a video with Natalie Wynn of Contrapoints.

@Chotibunder77 3 года назад

@@katherinemorelle7115 yes, that’s him!

@stinkygorl 3 года назад

I have sm sympathy for Best Dressed. As much as I miss her content, she’s def having a hard time balancing it all and I don’t blame her, people r so critical of her

@raveng8217 3 года назад

Yeah, people criticize her for literally everything that she does. In the last video she posted though she mentioned that she has a stalker, and I've seen a lot of people saying that she stopped posting because she had to move and she doesn't want them to figure out her location again.

@charmsz566 3 года назад

In my weird fairy-tale optimistic mind, I'm just hopeful she's living her best life, throwing all her time and attention to decorating her new apartment, making new friends and enjoying her new relationship. That girl moved to New York RIGHT as we went into lockdown, I felt so bad that she couldnt get out and meet new people. I'm really hopeful that whenever she does upload again, the stalker issue will have calmed down and she will have lots of positive updates for us. But again thats just me being optimistic

@WeiYinChan 3 года назад

The way people go after Ashley for the smallest things is disgusting and frankly misogynistic. She’s criticised for her self-deprecating racey sense of humour while men can get away with pedo jokes, and they act as if her upbeat personality is inherently problematic. She even got cancelled for having “rich” parents. I’m not even joking. She was said to be problematic for not randomly bringing up that she’s from upper middle class on her fashion channel when she was already independent from her parents and maybe want some privacy for them. The people who go after her are young women as well such is said. It’s literally schoolyard bullying behaviour disguised as “valid criticism” when they just her personality annoying or unlikable. But instead of just not watching her they decide to bully her relentlessly

@tesserzzz 3 года назад

I think the criticism continued because she has not addressed the original criticism, which was on her kind of tone deaf portrayal of covid and quarantine. Then the whole sustainability versus Amazon thing...I’m not saying that was right or wrong, she can do whatever she wants - but I don’t think her, or Haley Pham for example, will come back into favor with their former fans unless they at least address and/or apologize for some of their missteps.

@Oosij 3 года назад

@@WeiYinChan this is not to rag on ashley - the hate she got for her rich parents mostly came from all the times she portrayed herself as this lower/middle income kid who was struggling like the "rest of us." if she had been upfront about her privileged background, she might have gotten much less flack for that.

@itsjustmoss1281 3 года назад

I never get mad when you-tubers don’t upload but it does make me sad because I’m so invested in these human beings that have no real connection to me so when they stop uploading I can’t text them and ask if they’re ok. I always understand that being a person online can’t always be easy and I as a stranger have an not entitled to have any answers from them but it does almost feel like when your table partner in a class that you get along with but aren’t exactly friends with and don’t have each others numbers and disappears for half a semester or drop out without telling you.

@StarJester 3 года назад

yo this is EXACTLY how i feel, i just wanna know if they're doing ok but also they need their space!

@choosyduchess25 3 года назад

I'm a big fan of hers! Glad you mentioned her.

@san1883 3 года назад

THISSSSS

@leenanorms 3 года назад

Your comments on anticipating the criticism HIT HARD. If you ever want to talk Patreon, hit me up, I AM EVANGELICAL.

@slena 3 года назад

hi leena!!! ur very cool

@ApequH 3 года назад

That's why I turned of commments :/

@AngelaFelicia 3 года назад

Love your twenties/adulting/general random trains of thought that are very well said, Leena. You and Tiffany are 2 of my faves. From a Filipina fellow nerd in Melbourne.😊

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Your creator chronicles have been encouraging me! 💗

@paigemorley3114 3 года назад

my two faves

@emelong3152 3 года назад

I was JUST stalking Ashley's Instagram wondering why she stopped making videos- GET OUT OF MY HEAD

@redorangeyellowgreen 3 года назад

Me tooooo!

@gollumeats1997 3 года назад

Me too!! I miss her so much

@Dlkny321 3 года назад

she took youtube person out of her bio too

@folded_pizza 3 года назад

I get so excited when she speaks in her stories, I can't believe I miss a person I don't even know, that much.

@phosphenevision 3 года назад

@@Dlkny321 damn maybe she is trying to branch out and eventually leave? I dont blame her tho, the type of content she does is a bit hard to do in this climate (and be well received), it mus be a lot of pressure to have "yourself" as the content too, I don't think I would handle it well personally

@gabestewart2278 3 года назад

I miss communitychannel so much but I totally understand why Natalie Tran stopped uploading

@pistachiosandpopcorn7146 3 года назад

Now that one truly is always entertaining. She's the funniest woman on here to me. I also miss Lisa Nova..controversial or not.

@phosphenevision 3 года назад

Natalie is a legend, she really perfected to solo RU-vid skit

@Hannah-vz3hr 3 года назад

I was looking for this comment!! :)

@lyndsaycrivello7815 3 года назад

i think the dynamic of para social relationships is so interesting. the viewer feels like it’s a one on one friendship but the creator sees the subscribers as a group, almost like a mob of expectations. i think that’s why people can take it personally when a creator stops uploading, because to them it’s like losing a friend

@samwithouttheantha 3 года назад

I find that dynamic very interesting, as well. It's very one-way. The viewer might feel like a friend checking in, and use over-friendly or overly-casual language because you hear about the creator's life and know things about them, when really, you're a stranger watching them in the internet. It's sometimes tough to understand that boundary.

@thatjillgirl 3 года назад

I've seen several people who started RU-vid as teenagers, enjoyed success for a while, and then just wanted to do something else. And I think that's pretty normal. Unless you're very lucky, it's pretty common to get tired of any one job after you've been doing it for several years.

@isaniart 3 года назад

Even as a small RU-vidr, I struggle with perfectionism. I want my content to be as good as possible, but I don’t have the skill set to get it to that level. I don’t want to “blow up” until I feel like I have the skills to meet the level expected, like you talked about. As much as I want to spend days on a video, I’m in school right now and honestly don’t have the time.

@0Lottee0 3 года назад

I think it’s easy to forget that the majority of channels are run by just...one person. They’re not this big movie scale production team, its just a regular person doing something that matters to them and hoping it matters to someone else out there. People have grown to expect the production value of Game of Thrones from one dude just chillin at home but also don’t want the creator to feel too ‘inaccessible’. It’s like no matter what a creator does they always lose to someone’s expectations.

@ChelseaElizabethIZMIR 3 года назад

9:50 “a lot of work behind the scenes” omg thank you for saying that😭 Even mg friends get confused about why I’m stressed about pushing out more content. They think uploading a 15 minute video must equate to 15 minutes of work, in reality there’s soooooo much work behind the scenes. It becomes so hard to balance especially if you’ve got other jobs.

@sanderstar1000 3 года назад

15 min video = 15 min work 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 omfg

@lainiwakura1776 3 года назад

It's even more work if you do something requiring research, like history and true crime.

@sophiaeck 3 года назад

the concept of popular influencers leaning towards their channels with smaller audiences for comfort and support, is similar to drew goodens video on rich people and how they curate these smaller, cozier rooms in their houses because they crave that normalcy and intimacy. all these huge influencers and rich people trick themselves into thinking they need all these views and this popularity and money when deep down they crave what we as “normal” people have (small circles, comforting homes, trust worthy confidantes)

@sophiarose5743 3 года назад

I also think there’s a type of goal based issue with RU-vid. When it comes to best dressed, I remember when she got 1 million subscribers, which is a huge achievement, and she felt kind of disappointed bc she didn’t feel the way she wanted to. It’s like you’re hustling and you’re going and you get what you’ve been striving for and it doesn’t feel as good as you had hoped. Then I think you feel disheartened.

@98schild 3 года назад

I miss Dan Howell so much and the 2012/2015 youtubers

@KarolYuuki 3 года назад

I don't know if you know, but he and Phil are making lives on Stereo twice a week! It's really fun and we get to interact with them a little. I recommend!

@98schild 3 года назад

@@KarolYuuki Thank you !

@Maya-sz1pw 3 года назад

@@KarolYuuki Yes I just listened to their latest, it is so disturbing and yet also lovely and they seem really happy :)

@maedaydreamer8386 3 года назад

I am just happy that they are back even just on stereo. Maybe once Dan's book is released and once dan&phil finally move in to their house, he will post 1-2 videos and eventually resurrect danandphilgames.

@alexandravranou7958 3 года назад

i was scrolling through the comments waiting for someone to mention dan, i missed him very much 😭 using past tense because those stereo shows have REALLY been feeding us lately and im happy to see they are both doing well

@justme7410 3 года назад

I miss bestdressed so much her humor, editing, and her fashion videos are my therapy during quarantine but if Ashley’s busy and working on herself rn I still fully support her 🥲💕

@WeiYinChan 3 года назад

@liv97497 3 года назад

I never mind when it's people who only post every once in a while because it's something they *want* to post. Like Jenny; her videos are always delightfully weird and it seems like she's having fun, so it turns out I absolutely will sit for over an hour and watch a video about bronies. Or about a fanfiction trope I never even knew existed and its subsequent legal battles. Or about a failed tumblr convention. Because it looks like they *want* to be there and *want* to make those videos. What turns me off from a channel is when you can just tell that they're only there for the sponsorship, the subject isn't even something they care about, and they're not having fun. It feels.. disingenuous.

@SamiLoft 3 года назад

This was 30min of Tiffany putting words on things I could explain but that are 1000% true and what I feel like

@katherinemansfield4722 3 года назад

hello 🥰 am new here.... hope am welcome? am from new york. and would love to make new reasonable friends.

@dannichs1995 3 года назад

I would totally support RU-vidrs operating on a TV show basis. You wouldn't expect an episode of your favourite show to air once a week year in, year out, so why would you expect it of a RU-vidr? It's also nice to see people waking up a bit and realising that RU-vid is much more difficult than it seems

@AnimalLover101195 3 года назад

"Until you post a video. it doesn't feel like you've done anything." As a writer. I 1000% feel this. I can write 1,000 words but if I don't show it to someone, then I feel like I've done nothing.

@idontevenknow9758 3 года назад

I honestly don’t mind anymore if a creator takes a long time to post because production and writing is a very long process. I can kind of see that being an issue for any source of quality media. I run a blog and I try to put out something at least once a month but it’s a lot of work to research, writing, editing and make it at least entertaining to read. I can’t even imagine for a video. I think that’s the Better half of RU-vid, the daily stuff gets hyper repetitive and very low quality with a few exceptions based on the type of content it is but for the most part that is the case. I think buzzfeed is great example of why quantity over quality ruins a channel over time. Eventually you burn out or run out of ideas then in turn it pushes people away and before you know if your channel is kind of dead in the water. Sorry one last thing I forgot to mention. I think people are now understanding that quality over quantity is the more sustainable path for RU-vid because while I still see daily or really poor quality channels out there that are very “kid focused” aka using kids to get a lot of subs and money. They seem to die off very quickly as another one takes it’s place because kids don’t stick around forever especially as they grow out of those channels.

@lotsofuwuenergy3983 3 года назад

Having been in a videography course in school, I agree 100%. For us, just a 1-5 minute video would take a lot of collaboration (okay-ing with people we're filming, teachers, going back and forth on campus for scheduling) and a week to edit. Ofc it was all on top of our other classes; most of us were AP. I can't IMAGINE how much work goes into making 10+ minute videos and keeping up with a ruthless algorithm such as RU-vid's, along with keeping thousands (sometimes millions) of people happy.

@idontevenknow9758 3 года назад

@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 that’s the other issue, people have other stuff going on besides RU-vid especially if it’s not your main job. Working full time and/or going to school takes a ton of mental and physical energy already. Just one video alone is a massive project.

@aniimako 3 года назад

"congrats" for picking up therapy again! I feel kinda weird saying congratulations over it but I think it's worth a mention, It's great you're going and I hope that you'll notice a difference :) I'm currently on a waiting list and I'm excited to work on myself.

@PossiblyAlena 3 года назад

I am a very forgetful person and if a fav doesn’t upload for a while I’m not gonna get mad or anything. Literally all that happens is I’ll see their new video in my subscriptions list thing and be like “oh yeah they exist!!! That’s dope!!! Imma watch the new video now” I feel like it’s easy as an influencer who’s job and income is directly dependent on their fans to fall into the “what if they forget me” mindset. It’s crucial to remind yourself that even if they do “forget” you they can quickly be reminded of you and start actively supporting you again as soon as you post a new video. It’s a very unstable relationship that can act as a really good or bad thing, it’s just easier to focus on the bad possibilities than on the good ones.

@phosphenevision 3 года назад

Literally I usually only notice they were gone for a while when they mention in the video 😂

@eurekamreum5458 3 года назад

This! I'm now subscribed to soooo many good channels that even if I really like someone's content, I never actually ran out of interesting things to watch, so I tend to forget about a specific creator's schedule until they upload again.

@AlexWolf1203 3 года назад

I find some of the healthiest top creators comment sections saying things like "theyre not our little secret anymore🥺", which is sweet bc it truely does show that closeness in communities that you talk about.

@folded_pizza 3 года назад

I think that with the rise of social media and their role in children growing up there should be a "social media basics and etiquette" class in schools. We can no longer depend on what each parent knows and what each parent is willing to tell their children, but we need children to be educated on these topics. I see many comments from kids on big channels pressuring for face reveals, and more content, and "your content used to be better" that are a mix of kids not knowing how to behave online, not realising content creators are people too, and not understanding how to respect the creator's choices. Education is everything. Of course that's great hypothetically, but being in a country with absolutely no sex ed in schools (not even abstinence only) this will not happen at least for the next twenty years. But alas, a girl can dream.

@ber1779 3 года назад

Which country if you don’t mind sharing

@sophieleitao7219 3 года назад

I was just talking about this yesterday! Me and some friends were discussing how different people text and how some apparently don't know the unspoken rules of texting (for example using periods in text is usually seen as more serious and almost mad and some older people don't know that) and how it would be so helpful if beyond learning about our own language and a foreign language in school we could also have a chapter about internet talk and internet etiquette!

@folded_pizza 3 года назад

@@ber1779 Greece 💙💙💙

@ZhariyaAleice 3 года назад

you know it’s pretty interesting because i feel this way right now and my channel isn’t blowing up rapidly like kelly stamps but i reviewed sia’s movie and its currently at 35k views in less than a month when usually my most viewed videos get at max 3k views, within this time i got monetized and it’s honestly so stressful because i want to keep on making videos so my channel is successful but my imposter syndrome is just out of control i get so scared of people hating my content and my ideas not being interesting enough either way once again you made another amazing video ❤️

@tiffanyferg 3 года назад

Right! It’s exciting to get more views but can also be scary and overwhelming. You’ve been doing great though, keep it up!! 💕

@marissagonzalez6725 3 года назад

I'm a graphic design student in college about to graduate. In high school I just tried my best and I received a couple of scholarships and awards for my work and I was grateful. When I got into college I had this constant nagging about keeping up the positive momentum, applying to scholarships and awards, try your hardest even if you have to sacrifice your mental health etc. I wound up having to take a gap semester because of this. It completely drained my confidence and I had to re-find my artistic style as a junior in college (and then covid hit ugh). I think sometimes we forget that we received admiration, recognition, positive reactions, whatever you want to call it just by being genuine and allowing everything we do to come from a place of honesty. People will sometimes like what you do not because you tried hard, but because its a reflection of you. Not sure if that makes sense.

@tolumnia 3 года назад

This.

@katiedelkey1333 3 года назад

This reminds me of Joanna Ceddia. I subscribed to her when she only had around 1000 followers, and as she got bigger it didn’t feel as personal. I’ve always felt bad about that, and I felt even worse once she came out about her medical issues.

@leilanidru7506 3 года назад

Lmaoo that’s perfectly valid to feel that distance or move on from a creator for whatever reason that serves you. People just don’t need to be abusive or as sholes about their exits. Or make it the creator’s fault for being successful. I wish more people practiced *quietly* stepping away from content that doesn’t feed them in anyway. It’s actually the best thing ever.

@SO-vw8nx 3 года назад

Do you guys remember Andrea’s Choice? She blew up years ago, but hasn’t posted in years. I’ve truly wondered how she makes money

@pistachiosandpopcorn7146 3 года назад

Yep. Kalel made a new video like a day ago.

@peddlingfalsehoods6321 3 года назад

i used to watch her so much and she dropped off the face of the earth without any heads up. she ditched the whole popsicle stand

@NesBambi 3 года назад

She's on TikTok now, was pleasantly surprised when she came up in my feed.

@Momosaymkay 3 года назад

She made a video talking about how she got depressed. It was taken down. I’ve also wondered how she supports herself. Some people claim she got part ownership of maker studios years ago and made a lot of money once they sold. I have no idea how true that is. It’s a rumor that’s been around for awhile.

@Athenation2010 3 года назад

I remember seeing something about her being a partner with IPSY? I could be wrong though, I used to like her videos too! she had that big sister vibe, she's on tiktok now and looks like she hasn't aged a day

@ALittleBitShabby 3 года назад

At the end of the day most of us are watching RU-vid for free, but it seems a strange dynamic sometimes with viewers feeling like they deserve content because they've clicked subscribe. I'm grateful when a new video is uploaded but I don't feel like I'm entitled to a certain schedule or number of videos 😕