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We Need To Stop Romanticising Mental Illness 

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MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES AND SUPPORT
Samaritans (UK)
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CALM (Campaign Against Living Miserably, for men aged 15-35)
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Mind
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National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (USA)
1‑800‑273‑TALK (8255)
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SOURCES AND FURTHER READING
The EDIT lab blog: How the media glamorizes mental Illness and why this culture is dangerous: The Virgin Suicides
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The Guardian: Having a mental illness doesn’t make you a genius
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The Guardian: 'It's nothing like a broken leg': why I'm done with the mental health conversation
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The Irish Times: Mental illness is dark. It should never be a fashion statement
bit.ly/2uJIzgM
Logicat (Blog): The glamorisation of mental illness and ‘mental health merch’
logicat.wordpress.com/2016/09...
Mashable: How being sad, depressed, and anxious online became trendy
mashable.com/article/anxiety-...
National Eating Disorders Collaboration: Mental Illness in Media: Glamorisation and Other Issues
nedc.com.au/research-and-reso...
The New York Times: Please Stop Merchandising Mental Illness
www.nytimes.com/2018/07/28/st...
Northwestern Medicine: What TV Gets Wrong About Mental Illness
www.nm.org/healthbeat/healthy...
Rolling Stone: Does ’13 Reasons Why’ Glamorize Teen Suicide?
www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-fe...
Salon: Lights, camera, depression: Why does mental illness on TV rarely look like real life?
www.salon.com/2019/11/11/ligh...
SELF: Here’s What 7 Mental Health Experts Really Think About ‘13 Reasons Why’
www.self.com/story/13-reasons...
TalkSpace: Trust Me, Having a Mental Illness Isn’t Fashionable
www.talkspace.com/blog/having...
TeenVogue: Social Media Reacts to Ban.do's Mental Illness Jewelry Line
www.teenvogue.com/story/bando...
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@juliasantana4926
@juliasantana4926 3 года назад
it's the same w van gogh, and how "he ate yellow paint because yellow is a happy color and he wanted to be happy", like no, he ate paint because it was toxic and he wanted to die
@bread4237
@bread4237 3 года назад
I completely agree with you, but btw I read this in a tone where you were so done with people's shit and it sounded kind of funny.
@juliasantana4926
@juliasantana4926 3 года назад
@@bread4237 i mean, you're not wrong
@lasofi5510
@lasofi5510 3 года назад
Wtf? Ppl say that?
@juliasantana4926
@juliasantana4926 3 года назад
@@lasofi5510 yep,, people romanticize the weirdest shit
@skyisherelol3492
@skyisherelol3492 3 года назад
Wait he what
@SaraiMay
@SaraiMay 4 года назад
There really needs to be a middle ground between “mental illness makes me disgusting” and “mental illness makes me beautiful.”
@pretelquetzal
@pretelquetzal 4 года назад
Mental illness makes me mentally ill
@jackiearnolds
@jackiearnolds 4 года назад
Mental illness doesn't make me.
@pidgeon2699
@pidgeon2699 4 года назад
"mental illness makes me human."
@ViktorJ957
@ViktorJ957 4 года назад
"Mental illness makes me hurt."
@edgyintellect177
@edgyintellect177 4 года назад
Being abnormal makes me beautiful
@leasagna2202
@leasagna2202 3 года назад
The Media also ignores the "gross" side of depression... Like not having the Motivation to shower and do hygene in general or stuff like that.
@cigarettediet1185
@cigarettediet1185 3 года назад
imagine forgetting it
@rayne2260
@rayne2260 3 года назад
Litterally all the 'pretty girls' are like I'm depressed and then I come into school like gross and haven't showered and they're like 'ewew ur n0t depressed ur lazY'
@ditzylion5774
@ditzylion5774 3 года назад
Exactly, or the fact that self-harm can turn into an addiction, your mind never shutting off and telling you that you’re worthless, feeling pretty much nothing, having time being blurred so you don’t know what day it is or how long ago an event was, having no motivation to do the things you used to like, not being able to tell people how you’re feeling because you’re afraid you’ll hurt them, etc, etc.
@nEmette28
@nEmette28 3 года назад
Right? Tumblr posts always have quotes about having no energy to leave their bed yet the photos show a girl with beautiful mussed hair, skillful makeup, pouty lips, great contours streaked with a single artfully placed tear... but no they don't have the will to be awake, move or even live
@iexist1300
@iexist1300 3 года назад
@@ditzylion5774 as someone who self harms, even though I do it for attention, i have become addicted to it. I'm not in any physical danger from it, but it is a dangerous thing that people often don't realise.
@squibitybeebop
@squibitybeebop 3 года назад
what angers me even more is that so many of the people who romanticize depression and anxiety are the same ones who bully autistic kids for being “weird”.
@suzannax
@suzannax 3 года назад
Ikr, like the entire #BeKind thing after Caroline Flacks suicide was put up online by the media who caused it and was shared by school bullies jumping on the bandwagon (virtue signalling). Depression isn't a fashion and being kind shouldn't be either.
@ellasorrow4stolas445
@ellasorrow4stolas445 3 года назад
Prrrreach
@LumaEclipse
@LumaEclipse 3 года назад
Separation anxiety and social anxiety get romanticized a lot. Separation anxiety is just shown as neediness and needing to be with someone when it can be more severe than what they show or it can be from someone who isn't your partner. And social anxiety is reduced to being shy
@ellasorrow4stolas445
@ellasorrow4stolas445 3 года назад
@@LumaEclipse social anxiety is terrible to live with. You want to talk with people, but you fear tons of things in your head and you just end up not talking.
@frida5680
@frida5680 3 года назад
yes! There are so many compilations of "fish girl" from that one youtube show where highschoolers had to decide who gets 1000$ (or something like that). There was clearly something wrong with that person if they behaved this way, and they were only 14 years old! Many people made compilations and commented mean stuff, it just shows how hypocritical people are when it comes to acceptance of people wo are different in any way
@nadyanathania3847
@nadyanathania3847 4 года назад
"i have depression uwu" pisses me off cause when i even remotely express anything but happiness my parents and literally everyone around me calls me a fake and yell at me
@tinybullfrog1955
@tinybullfrog1955 4 года назад
nini nono Seek help when/where possible. You are valid ❤
@jasper9135
@jasper9135 4 года назад
Abigail Bernstein same thing with my dad he just dosent fucking care
@danimattosdesousa8687
@danimattosdesousa8687 4 года назад
Hey, if you want to talk about it I'm here, I've had this problem with my stepfather too, it really sucks srry if there is any misspell, english isn't my first language
@len9438
@len9438 4 года назад
Ngl same lol. I would like ya’ll to ignore that I’m "god" at the moment, thx. I just wanted to say that don’t be ashamed to feel sad. Sadness is something we all go through, same goes with envy, anger, disgust and the list goes on. All of those feelings are normal and we all felt them at some point in time. Just um- I’m not good with these type of messages UhM- Just- idk man. Soooo remember that I love you and I love that you love urselffff 😌🤟 And once again luv yaaa ❤️
@chocobun4879
@chocobun4879 4 года назад
Me too. I'm not saying I have depression because my mom doesn't take me to the doctor,but she always tried to label me. She calls me wierd because I have a hard to speaking to people and then I was trying not to cry in a car.Then guess what she said you got an attitude and I started crying. Then she called me dumb,retarded, and said she wished she had other kids or someone else's daughter. I mean how was I not suppose to cry at the time when I feel like she is threatening me just by speaking.
@TheGreenRaven303
@TheGreenRaven303 4 года назад
no one romanticizes the side of depression or anxiety where you lash out in anger, break things, you can't control your temper and your mind won't shut up. I'm sick of media pretending mental illness is only pretty crying girls wearing babydoll nighties laying in lush beds in cool lighting. it makes me ill.
@galaxylucy5948
@galaxylucy5948 3 года назад
Thank you so much for saying it. I thought I'm never gonna find anyone else who sees it. You're a smart person, wish you a good day :>
@fredricweeb2965
@fredricweeb2965 3 года назад
Frr
@_Ayakyu_
@_Ayakyu_ 3 года назад
Well, clearly they are not going to create any character with a depression so strong that it affects their personal hygiene, who is fat and has so many dark circles that it looks like a panda. Nobody wants a disgusting person :(
@fredricweeb2965
@fredricweeb2965 3 года назад
@@_Ayakyu_ if they're gonna write about mental illness they should do it correctly
@haichie1341
@haichie1341 3 года назад
No one romantacises the part where you throw up across the floor because you failed to tie your shoelaces and that caused a panic attack, no one romanticises the part where you're covered in festering wounds you caused yourself and you just can't be assed to take care of them. It's just not beautiful enough.
@SusanDelRey
@SusanDelRey 3 года назад
Depression isn’t “I want to die 24/7.” It’s sometimes emotional numbness, emptiness and pointlessness, mixed with an intense fear of disappointment.
@peppermint5117
@peppermint5117 3 года назад
EXACTLY!!
@shaffiquess
@shaffiquess 3 года назад
Can relate 100%
@flowersforyouu
@flowersforyouu 3 года назад
EXACTLY. Sometimes I feel like I have to be like ‘I want to die 24/7’ because that’s what the media portrays it as. But depression is not like that at all. You sometimes have moments where you think like that but it isn’t like that.
@zaxary2137
@zaxary2137 2 года назад
And for some people it's a haunting feeling of guilt especially if you're in a toxic family. Sometimes people don't even take you seriously, thinking its a phase. Sometimes yes, but when you cry all the time on your doctor's appointment trying to scream for help but at the end being grounded for a year without any connection to your coping mechanisms and friends. I think it's not really okay. So yeah, seeing mental illnesses romanticised hurts me to my very core, i agree with your statement fully as well.
@amylowry9976
@amylowry9976 2 года назад
People experience mental illness in different ways
@lisasmyth5555
@lisasmyth5555 3 года назад
The problem with 13 reasons why is that none of the characters are interesting for any other reasons than their trauma
@LumaEclipse
@LumaEclipse 3 года назад
Its lazy too, you can make a good character that's battling with that
@ghostiewohstie674
@ghostiewohstie674 3 года назад
That’s why I couldn’t watch more than 3 episodes. Everyone keep telling me it was so good but I thought it was so boring 😒
@Lucy_the
@Lucy_the 3 года назад
@@ghostiewohstie674YOURE SO RIGHT, my bestie told me 13 reasons why is the best thing shes ever seen so i decided to watch it and was really dissapointed. Managed only 2 episodes its such a boring shit
@silas9753
@silas9753 3 года назад
Book
@whatteamwildcats4033
@whatteamwildcats4033 3 года назад
Hannah's choice is rewarded; she gets to enact revenge on those who hurt her, she gets to act out and swipe at people, she gets to drag somebody innocent into her mess, and she never once has to deal with the consequences of her actions. You don't know how appealing that would sound to a depressed teenager, a child, whose angry at the world and to see hannah rewarded isn't good
@GloomyFish
@GloomyFish 4 года назад
Something I've seen all over the internet are posts that say "suicidal people are just angels who want to return home". No! Don't say that! Never say that! It's disgusting and insensitive and it makes me feel so sick...
@kjs.gab.
@kjs.gab. 4 года назад
That's always triggered me like ... no! It's just wrong like wth
@fantasybee5794
@fantasybee5794 4 года назад
Gloomy Fish some one will probably be like “it’s fine that I’m suicidal I’m just an angel” :\
@alanisarizpemarcela5859
@alanisarizpemarcela5859 4 года назад
DUDE IK
@xshinex5789
@xshinex5789 3 года назад
Oh my god why would anyone say that?? I’ve been suicidal and the feelings are some of the worst things to ever experience. Not angelic at all
@grayshere7644
@grayshere7644 3 года назад
@@fantasybee5794 I can confirm. When I was younger, I definitely did. I'm thankful that I figured out that the quote is messed up
@Angelika-ko2ru
@Angelika-ko2ru 3 года назад
i know people who say “i literally just had a mental breakdown last night” because they got a haircut. like no. be glad that you’re not suffering from an actual mental illness.
@cigarettediet1185
@cigarettediet1185 3 года назад
my mental breakdown: i slit my wrists 😮 sometimes i dye my hair, to fix it. sometimes i cut it off, to fix it and bc my split ends. mental breakdown the f get the shit out of here
@miam9022
@miam9022 3 года назад
Actually, I did once have a mental breakdown over a haircut. Idk if it’s mental illness related but I literally despise the way that I look and one time I got a haircut so bad that I was hysterical, I couldn’t stop crying and I was scratching my face because of how hideous I am.
@Angelika-ko2ru
@Angelika-ko2ru 3 года назад
@@cigarettediet1185 yeah; there are cases like that. but when you know people who don't have a mental illness and they said they had a "mental breakdown" by just cutting their bangs, it's a different story. people keep saying that they have depression when they are just sad. they say they have adhd because buzzfeed said so. it's really aggravating when people don't know the difference between normal human emotions and actual mental illnesses, and they don't know what people with mental illnesses have to go through daily.
@irena1222
@irena1222 3 года назад
? What does getting a haircut even have to do with mental breakdowns? (Like is it getting a haircut would cause a breakdown or that mental breakdowns are perceived as cutting your hair off?)
@ruthprophete5566
@ruthprophete5566 3 года назад
I did once have a mental breakdown and cut my hair. But I was super depressed and grabbed a razor and shaved it all off. But it wasn't from having a hair cut
@eclownery
@eclownery 3 года назад
All my friends are all like “I’m so depressed” but when I try to talk about my depression they just look at me weird
@mamomamomammon4345
@mamomamomammon4345 3 года назад
This is sadly true...
@notmarsargo
@notmarsargo 3 года назад
I know how you feel unfortunately, I hope you get better ❤️
@wil7216
@wil7216 3 года назад
I have not been diagnosed with depression or anxiety but I feel sad a lot. My friends will always use "depressed" instead of sad or dissapointed. (Example: "My Mom wouldn't let me bring cake to school, Im so depressed") But whenever I speak about my sadness they just go "You're overreacting", "Stop complaining" or "You're just faking"
@xLadyMary
@xLadyMary 3 года назад
I don’t have depression but I know what you mean. Everybody feels down, that’s normal, but when we talk about a real illness everyone turns their back on us. It’s frustrating!
@gaesimp__
@gaesimp__ 3 года назад
Same, real depression is miserable and awful. I think people should look at depression and many other mental illnesses in a realistic lens and not just through a teenage character
@wowsports8800
@wowsports8800 3 года назад
1- Bipolarity is not mood swings 2-Calling someone "autistic" to say they're dumb makes you disgusting.
@qing6306
@qing6306 3 года назад
Bipolar isn’t just “oh haha I was happy but now I’m sad”. It’s not being able to get up for days at a time, being so sad and unhappy you can’t function properly. It’s being so hyperactive and jittery that you might put yourself in danger
@shumai8172
@shumai8172 3 года назад
Yeah i never knew what bipolar meant i just seen girls in my class say it cuz there happy and now sad but i have a mood disorder that goes with my depression im not rlly sure if its a disorder but my therapist said it to me like that so I looked into people with bipolar and its awful..i just learn from people around me like small kids do.
@moelester8656
@moelester8656 3 года назад
I am autistic, and i have no problem with the second
@notmarsargo
@notmarsargo 3 года назад
EXACTLY I don’t get why people always say that
@ieatpancreas2005
@ieatpancreas2005 3 года назад
THE SECOND ONE gosh I'm not autistic, have never met someone who thinks that way but it's so obviously offensive and insensitive
@hospitalbeach
@hospitalbeach 4 года назад
the real depression “aesthetic” -not being able to get out of bed🥵 -having no motivation to do literally anything 😍 -crying yourself to sleep🥴 -NOT trivializing it 🥺 -trying to convince yourself to stay alive😘 -dealing with it every fucking day 🥰
@anniej844
@anniej844 3 года назад
Not showering for days because you have no energy uwu 🤪
@ilyanemuno5427
@ilyanemuno5427 3 года назад
@@anniej844 And then getting looks of disgust and isolating yourself from every social interaction possible cause you're hard to even look at 🤭
@milablanco8535
@milablanco8535 3 года назад
When you're friend comes over and there's no cat🤪😸✌
@Magicalgirl20
@Magicalgirl20 3 года назад
I know right- in my freshman year I would never be able to shower and all that shit- I eventually got diagnosed with depression and people would call me "stinky" and make fun of me...some even threw soap at me down the halls and such- but there is one thing i dont get- TV potrays the "cute and popular girls" as mean and rude- but the popular girls at my school actually made me feel like i was a human being- it was kinda weird- but they invited me to a sleep over- no tricks- and they helped me with my depression and didnt get annoyed whenever I would cry about messing something up-.
@hannajmendoza8080
@hannajmendoza8080 3 года назад
I have feeling all of this, except for not getting out of bed. I have to force myself to wake up although I don't feel like it. I would rather just stay at bed.
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 4 года назад
The main reason I dislike 13 Reasons Why is because it sets up her suicide as her “winning”. She won because her suicide was her getting revenge on those that hurt her. Very much a “you’ll see, and then you’ll be sorry!” And that’s a terrible message to send about suicide! It’s worse than just romanticising it. It basically says she was able to get her revenge by killing herself. That’s not how it works in real life though. Also, they never once said she was depressed. Which is weird.
@Amazing_Mark
@Amazing_Mark 4 года назад
'Thirteen Reasons Why' is evil.
@alisonmcalistair
@alisonmcalistair 4 года назад
I don't like how Hannah doesnt learn her lesson; her character arc ends with her "winning" so it comes off as "you'll be happy too if you kill yourself and traumatize your peers with guilt that they may not be able to handle"
@pgakt
@pgakt 4 года назад
Mark B Exactly this! I think my drive for suicide when i was young came from "making the bad people feel guilty" and TRW shows how you can exactly succeed by doing that, it's vile
@hamstercom23
@hamstercom23 4 года назад
And by extention implies that if her attempt had failed she would have 'lost'. It's a disturbing message to put out there.
@sora1498
@sora1498 4 года назад
yeah it gave me a bad vibe like "see? if you kill yourself, everyone who hurt you will suffer too!" and it makes me sick
@shriyamakeupvanity9166
@shriyamakeupvanity9166 3 года назад
I have literally seen people write "depressed" in their bio as if it's a personality trait🙄
@colorbar.s
@colorbar.s 3 года назад
or because mental illness takes up a huge part of your life? are depressed people supposed to keep something causing them so much harm a secret?
@shriyamakeupvanity9166
@shriyamakeupvanity9166 3 года назад
@@colorbar.s not secret but bio is supposed be about yourself. That's what i think. People can talk about their mental health on social media. There's nothing wrong with that.
@shriyamakeupvanity9166
@shriyamakeupvanity9166 3 года назад
@@colorbar.s it's just similar to jow she explained in the video about wearing t shirts with depressed written on it. There's a difference between seriously sharing your problem in detail in a post and using key word "depressed" in your bio
@shriyamakeupvanity9166
@shriyamakeupvanity9166 3 года назад
@@colorbar.s then maybe everyone has their own way of getting their point. Across. Maybe i misunderstood ❤️
@edgyintellect177
@edgyintellect177 3 года назад
Why don't they just write "melancholy" instead? Because that actually is a personality trait.
@kae6238
@kae6238 3 года назад
In the show “Crazy Ex Girlfriend” the main character goes into a period of depression and sings the song “Sexy French Depression” which basically mocks the romanticization of mental illness, in a black and white music video which cuts back and forth from her walking in Paris in a sexy outfit with a cigarette(the romanticization in her mind) to the reality of her laying in a messy bed in pajamas, binge eating, and not being able to get up. Or at least that’s how I interpreted it. I love that show so much.
@colorbar.s
@colorbar.s 3 года назад
wasn't that about BPD?
@dandygardner9404
@dandygardner9404 3 года назад
@@colorbar.s It is and it is not. It's really about making fun of harmful tropes. In an interview the show's writers said they asked a psychologist to diagnose Rebecca, and the psychologist said BPD. They wanted to explore mental illness to produce positive representation but I think it led to stereotypical writing. The song sexy French depression is still relevant as parody, or as a take on the reality of depression (which someone can have alongside BPD.) It's pretty funny (I love the Sexy getting ready song and a boys band made out of four Josh the most.) In the show however Rebecca is first misdiagnosed with depression and anxiety before finding BPD so maybe that's why. I think their handling of BPD was pretty stereotypical, there's a lot of focus on the list of symptoms as opposed to writing a fully integrated character. People with lived experience should have been on the writing team. Anyway that's just what I think. Hope that helps. Have a nice one, and thank you for reading if you do :)
@xx9080
@xx9080 3 года назад
@Natalie me tooo i haven't met anyone else who actually watches it, it's so underrated
@-correct-ok2398
@-correct-ok2398 3 года назад
woah i have to see that
@peppermint5117
@peppermint5117 3 года назад
woah
@FruityPotatoes
@FruityPotatoes 4 года назад
Depression and anxiety made me ugly and angry and mean so I literally don’t know why people glamorize it
@divine6867
@divine6867 4 года назад
exactly.
@Charlie-yq8hu
@Charlie-yq8hu 4 года назад
I know,people never understand the angry, how you scream in your pillow, ugly sob, lay there for hours staring into nothing, don't wash or feed yourself. It's not crying daintily. Cuts are not pretty or a picture. They are angry red, ugly risen and sometimes infected, and leave horrible risen scars forever. It's not done daintily, it's done angrily, emptly, distract in some attempt to feel pain, just something. They never show how they truly hate themselves and everything around them. No, I'm not an angel, I don't want to go 'home', I want to not exist, to be anywhere but here. It's not because of homework or one mean thing someone said. Anxiety is not me being nervous in crowds. It's a horrible feeling in my stomach at the thought of seeing someone.
@Charlie-yq8hu
@Charlie-yq8hu 4 года назад
They see it as pretty and tragic, and it's insulting to people actually going through sh*t. 'Im sooo depressed now so and so dumped me' 'if I just had a boyfriend maybe I wouldn't want to die' Urggggg. Teenagers saying depressed when they mean sad just makes me feel invalid, everyone else is struggling, I'm making it up, I'm being selfish, and guess what, it makes everything worse
@Charlie-yq8hu
@Charlie-yq8hu 4 года назад
Sorry for the rant
@luvblueybingoheeler3150
@luvblueybingoheeler3150 4 года назад
Because they’re stupid.
@ignisrose9198
@ignisrose9198 3 года назад
The problem with this "depression" trend is that it's becoming a meme and teens who have actual problems start believing that's it's just a phase and avoid getting help
@elenamatei5553
@elenamatei5553 3 года назад
Trueeeee!!!
@krisbang2382
@krisbang2382 3 года назад
exactly
@aslindrusk6854
@aslindrusk6854 3 года назад
Worse than that they are "disappearing" from our sight, because now It Is just a sweet thing you have, not something that can kill you, eating your inside and brain.
@ameliasoon4944
@ameliasoon4944 3 года назад
This. I deal with anxiety and the first time I had thoughts of self-harm I was actually happy because, in my mind, I could finally tell myself I had anxiety instead of just over-exaggerating things.
@hiitsnicetomeetyou
@hiitsnicetomeetyou 3 года назад
THANK YOU! Was about to write a comment about this, it's exactly how I felt before my diagnosis. When you start a conversation about wanting to die and the other person responds with "same lol", it just makes you feel like all of it is normal and that everybody else feels the way you do. Not true, and please get help if you're suicidal, it does wonders and I want you to live. Please.
@sipsfactsandtea5535
@sipsfactsandtea5535 3 года назад
After 13 reasons why aired, there were several cases where kids started buying tapes and attempting suicide. They wanted to do what Hannah did, several of these kids were unfortunately successful in their attempt. One girl that attempted to copy as well talked about her experience in a blog post a few years back. She said that " I never felt the urge to commit suicide until I watched 13 reasons why" and that "I wanted to get back at the people that made me feel like I was suffering, I was never suffering, I was just angry" she talked about how she actually realized what she did to herself and she freaked out and realized that she didn't actually want to die. She was very lucky, sometimes you can't go back on what you do to yourself.
@mchlle94
@mchlle94 3 года назад
yes exactly! mentioning/portraying suicide carlessly, let alone romanticizing it, can cause impressionable young people to "try it"
@em-fe5hb
@em-fe5hb 3 года назад
me and my friend used to be obsessed with this show when we were 13. she still is, and now we're 15 and in 9th grade. in the first day of school she told me "now that we're in the 9th grade we can commit s***** just like hannah xd". ofc she was joking, but it's terrifying to see how this show f-ed up so many teenagers, including myself until a year ago.
@CosmicBumblebee
@CosmicBumblebee 3 года назад
yeah but 13 reasons why does not romanticize suicide in any way, if people are watching it and wanting to do what Hannah did, then they are mentally unstable and should of not been watching it, or at least not alone/like watch it with someone and talk about it. Cause the show is very misinterpreted.
@puflem
@puflem 3 года назад
How stupid can a person be
@juju-kn6rx
@juju-kn6rx 3 года назад
@@CosmicBumblebee it does romanticize it a lot. it shows suicide as a way to get back at people who have wronged you and that you're cool if you're depressed.
@paintedparadox4664
@paintedparadox4664 3 года назад
What drives me crazy? When the ‘gross’ sides of depression/mental illness like hygienic issues are ignored because they can’t be glamorized. ‘Ew that’s so gross what’s wrong with you’ what’s wrong with me? The same disorder that you like to brag about having because you think it’s cute, Becca.
@RAC00NFANGIRL
@RAC00NFANGIRL 3 года назад
Nah their Karen! But yeah like Ooh yeah depression soo pretty! I think do for attention
@alicia-hd2cs
@alicia-hd2cs 3 года назад
People also don’t realise that anxiety gives u the severe shits
@bropoke6799
@bropoke6799 2 года назад
Fr. Theres a girl i know who brags about self diagnosing herself with anxiety and depression, but whenever someone with properly diagnosed depression or anxiety go to school in their pjs cause they didnt have the energy to get dressed, she makes fun of them behind their back
@MargaritaMagdalena
@MargaritaMagdalena Год назад
Who's Becca?
@Snow_Sailor
@Snow_Sailor 11 месяцев назад
Apparently it's only quirky when you say you have it and conveniently only have the 'aesthetic' symptoms.
@milothemoth
@milothemoth 4 года назад
I think it’s awful that billie eilishes fans decided to romanticise the meanings of her songs when she just wants to write her heart out with her brother
@jittercritter
@jittercritter 4 года назад
No kidding. I feel like her music is a great way to connect w a popular artist and feel understood, but then there had to be ppl to ruin it. Now U can’t even say that you like her without being made fun of...
@br12_
@br12_ 4 года назад
WTF PPL DO THAT?!??! Tf.....
@user-lw5ez6ic1d
@user-lw5ez6ic1d 3 года назад
I’m really wondering who does this...Billie’s music helped me through depression. It doesn’t trigger it. Honestly people need to really listen to what they’re saying, more often it was the people talking about how people that listen to Billie are 13 year old fake depressed girls than the shitty things I was going through that made me feel worse about it.
@animeonepiecelife1663
@animeonepiecelife1663 3 года назад
I was wondering why people disliked Billie, she make good songs to me.
@user-lw5ez6ic1d
@user-lw5ez6ic1d 3 года назад
Silently Sarcastic we don’t do that though
@rockgod8000
@rockgod8000 4 года назад
Bojack Horseman. It is quite literally the only show that explores mental health and doesn't glamorize it. It is hilarious and tragic all at the same time.
@tyblean6915
@tyblean6915 4 года назад
i agree! i’m glad you mentioned bojack horseman and i hope people look onto it! the show itself portrays mental health for what it actually is-
@lucianaegan327
@lucianaegan327 3 года назад
I agree Bojack literally saved me
@emizeka5285
@emizeka5285 3 года назад
i love bojack because the characters are purposefully flawed and at times unlikeable. its a good representation of real people and the reality of these issues.
@blaisha
@blaisha 3 года назад
I heard a lot about it but I've never been that into it. I'll take a look!
@currybread5298
@currybread5298 3 года назад
I love that show
@nugwuga
@nugwuga 3 года назад
I agree. In Killing Stalking, everyone thinks that story is a yaoi and it's cute. No it's not. That story is about abuse and story between a murderer and a boy... how is that "kAwAii" ?
@nugwuga
@nugwuga 3 года назад
@Anjali exactly!!
@mamomamomammon4345
@mamomamomammon4345 3 года назад
IF YOU THINK THIS IS CUTE PLEASE RETHINK YOUR LIFE
@mamomamomammon4345
@mamomamomammon4345 3 года назад
Aren’t they also step brothers or something-
@uwuxian8572
@uwuxian8572 3 года назад
@@mamomamomammon4345 skdjdk no?? yoonbum is a classmate or smth, has / had a crush on sangwoo, decided to stalk him and got kinda kidnapped instead. they're not related
@5dollarmcflurry899
@5dollarmcflurry899 3 года назад
FOR REAL!
@raycala7453
@raycala7453 3 года назад
People don't seem to realize that being apathetic is not fun. Imagine being completely numb when someone tells you your family/friends passed away. Imagine feeling absolutely nothing even when good things happen. Imagine using self-harm to try to feel something and it doesn't even work. Well people like me don't have to imagine.
@RAC00NFANGIRL
@RAC00NFANGIRL 3 года назад
I hope things get better! Get mental help you need! I’m no doctor but maybe some medication will help. I know I take pills help me sleep and other things. I remember taking medication because i couldn’t focus.. gave me pills keep my focus on person.. if pill help me maybe some medication can too..
@penelopecookie1557
@penelopecookie1557 2 года назад
I hope you get better. I have do not have any mental illneses so I dont know how it feels, but if you seek help from doctors they can probably help you get better. I hope you can have a good life so please get help by a doctor so you can get better.
@honeyswann
@honeyswann 2 года назад
My boyfriend is apathetic and I know exactly how hard it is for him . He used to cut to feel and it’s hard and gets overwhelmed when others have certain emotions and can’t handle them. It’s harder to have fun or express yourself properly sometimes . That doesn’t mean apathetic people don’t feel happiness but they don’t display it like others. I’m super emotional anxious and depressed so I do overwhelm him sometimes. It’s really tough from what insee
@tblmoon
@tblmoon 2 года назад
yeah it's HORRIBLE
@radhaniwargi7173
@radhaniwargi7173 2 года назад
exactly like it makes life so empty, and you know you should feel something, you wonder what's wrong with you that something that should affect you doesn't, you beat yourself up again and again for not feeling anything and the more you try to hurt yourself the less you can feel it. depression is fucking awful. i used to think depression was this cool thing that would maybe make people care more about me, maybe i'd have more friends if i was depressed. and then i basically thought myself into the hole of depression (although the process was definitely sped up by genetics and my parents) and now i can finally understand the ugliness of mental illness that no one ever really wants to confront. it's easier to imagine that sufferers aren't actually suffering, that the mental disorders making our lives hell are actually improving it, because hey- we're getting treatment and care and days off from work/school, right? fuck no, we get bad grades and unemployment and goddamn expensive therapists that don't accept insurance. we get messy houses and unwashed hair and the same clothes we've been wearing for a week because what's the point in looking good when you can't even look yourself in the mirror? not to mention how difficult it is to do things like just get out of bed; it's a whole process of either psyching yourself up or mentally bashing yourself, depending on how your night went and how much sleep you got and what you have to do today. you genuinely cannot see the point in getting up, and if you manage to- for which i congratulate you heartily- there's the hassle of getting ready for the day, which takes twenty extra minutes of just mental preparation. then there's the matter of food, which you're likely not hungry for (whether or not you have an eating disorder) and so you go on about your day, suffering in silence because of the emotional-distance moat and walls you've slowly built around yourself.
@big_and_bookish
@big_and_bookish 4 года назад
I’d also like to add, as someone who has severe depression, a romantic relationship will not “cure” you. I’ve been with my boyfriend for 5 years now, and at times my mental illness has put a strain on our relationship. He still supports me, but having depression in a relationship is a lot more than just one person crying and the other holding them and soothing them. It’s also frustration from your partner because they don’t understand how something so trivial could upset you, or you being so upset that you don’t want anyone to touch you. It’s HARD being in a relationship while mentally ill, not cute.
@gabrielavega1114
@gabrielavega1114 4 года назад
I KNOW.
@blessiemasancay4818
@blessiemasancay4818 4 года назад
This.
@annaan2873
@annaan2873 4 года назад
It's the same with friends. They don't underestimate even after I tell them multiple times, I am not mean. I speak in a stern manner that sounds like I think I'm superiori, or like I talk down to them, but it's not what I want. I was trying to seem cheerful, but I sound weird. I tried to distance myself from them, they get upset. I know that they won't believe me if tell them about my depression. They'll say that I am sad. Being an introvert also doesn't help me so much. But Rachel's videos help, and I'm not an ass kisser here, neither I want to get attention. It really helps listening to her voice and her logic, plus, I think she touched great topics with her videos. This is why I'm here.
@annaan2873
@annaan2873 4 года назад
But don't you worry, hun, you are still loved. You are still respected. You are still a great person and will always be. We didn't choose to be this way, to feel this way. I'm grateful for all the people in my life that didn't judge me. I'm grateful for those who stayed. And for those who left. If someone makes you sad, it's okay to leave. So, even if I don't know who you are, I support you. Honestly.
@fairyjuggalo8368
@fairyjuggalo8368 4 года назад
It depends. For me my ex bf was the first person to actually (lowkey) understand my feelings and that im pretty yandere-ish to him (by yandere not killing people but afraid of him always leaving me, having trust issues etc.) when i had suicidal thoughts and almost reached for the pills i was always thinking how much could've hurted him so i just broke down crying and never actually commited suicide.
@niinalehesaari5591
@niinalehesaari5591 4 года назад
As a person with schizofrenia, it’s not cute. It’s not quirky. It’s beyond exhausting to live in a horrible warped form of reality like that. Update; I wrote this 9 months ago and have since undergone therapy and medication treatment. I live happily now and got my life together, I don’t suffer anymore thanks to anti-psychotic medication. Thanks to all of you for the likes and kindness, it warms my heart. I hope you’re all doing well and I’m sending you loving virtual hugs!
@julierodriguez94
@julierodriguez94 3 года назад
Schizophrenia * and yea ik
@uniserenity1414
@uniserenity1414 3 года назад
Oh my god. The thought of it is terrifying. Who in their right mind would want such an illness
@niinalehesaari5591
@niinalehesaari5591 3 года назад
Julie Rodriguez English is not my first language
@qing6306
@qing6306 3 года назад
I know a friend with schizophrenia. She hears things and sees things that give her such bad anxiety she can’t sleep, she cannot think properly.
@uniserenity1414
@uniserenity1414 3 года назад
himejirou exactly. TERRIFYING!
@isla.g
@isla.g 3 года назад
Also those "if you know these songs you're depressed uwu", those are disgusting. You can listen to sad music and not be depressed, because it's just music and does *not* define your mental state *whatsoever* . Those truly disgust me because the comments are all "oh my god I know all of these please help me I'm so quirkyyyyy"
@RAC00NFANGIRL
@RAC00NFANGIRL 3 года назад
As someone who listens too different music I hate those comments! I love song hurt most by rascal flats doesn’t mean I’m depressed just wanna lay back listen sad music.
@MayaKosnikm
@MayaKosnikm 3 года назад
I’ve seen SO MANY trends like this on TikTok... like “if you know all these songs I feel bad for your therapist” 😐
@Lucy_the
@Lucy_the 3 года назад
actually, "depressing" music is soooo relaxing, i always listen to it just to full the silence in my room
@MayaKosnikm
@MayaKosnikm 3 года назад
@@Lucy_the that wasn’t the point but aight
@iemandiemand3765
@iemandiemand3765 3 года назад
@@Lucy_the you are proving their point... there is no ‘depressing music’ depression is a literal mental illness. I think you just mean sad music
@113wy
@113wy 3 года назад
“ugh those pens aren’t straight my ocd is kicking in” “i was so stressed from exams. ugh [#]anxietygang🤪🤪” “my fav show ended now i’m depressed uwu” this whole self diagnosing is so annoying because it’s like “sad=depressed” “stressed=anxiety” “annoyed at things everyone is annoyed by=ocd”. this waters down mental illness into something that it isn’t at all.
@113wy
@113wy 3 года назад
@@JP-et9hv so sorry you deal with all that. :(
@nmy_watson
@nmy_watson 3 года назад
This is true but don’t call it “self-diagnosing,” there’s a difference between a person without access to a psychiatrist validating their mental illness by researching symptoms and a person who only knows the extremely simplified version of a mental illness making it into their whole personality once they feel sad or stressed. People who _actually_ self-diagnose are valid
@113wy
@113wy 3 года назад
@@nmy_watson i’m in that boat, i don’t have access to a psychiatrist and of course i would never tell someone with valid symptoms they are invalid. what i mean is people will self diagnose without knowing and having valid symptoms. but only a select amount of self diagnoses are like that.
@alicia-hd2cs
@alicia-hd2cs 3 года назад
I have certain mental issues and i often see my friend saying “i have breakdown” over the stupidest things. Jokingly saying “this teacher gives me anxiety and depression” and i hate it. Breakdown isn feeling sad, its a very serious thing. You have this heavy weight on your chest and all the energy drains out of you and you start crying uncontrollably until you get a great headache. Sometimes i cant even move a finger or breath iso bad. And then these assholes stay using it o make their conversations more interesting.
@113wy
@113wy 3 года назад
@@alicia-hd2cs yes this!! they think they are like character traits or something that make them cool. being mentally ill is not cool in the slightest. like bro would you go, omg this is triggering my diabetes or something? no, you wouldn’t. mental and physical illness must be valued the same. i’m so sick of being told get over it or seeing my mental health issues romanticized. like you wouldn’t do that to cancer or alzheimer’s, so don’t do it to mental health!
@carpet-snark6446
@carpet-snark6446 4 года назад
I think we need to change the message from: “some people have these issues and life is very hard for them, so they’re extra deep” to “some people have these issues and life is very hard for them, so we should make sure that less people have to feel like this” I don’t feel ashamed of my issues, and I’ve learned to accept them so I can work to fix them. But I’d never wish them on anyone. Ever. Period.
@monettehater3300
@monettehater3300 4 года назад
I wish that their ex-husband got the right to kill their wife, if the wife files a divorce. by matthew
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 4 года назад
@@monettehater3300 - What?
@lindahl458
@lindahl458 4 года назад
I agree, that is something you can write about: someone admitting their problem and actively seeking help to get better where the viewer can se how this living mess becomes a flourishing person Also: Monette Hater What?
@user-oy6hk1gn7l
@user-oy6hk1gn7l 4 года назад
@@lindahl458 A TV show recommendation: Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
@cwgodzilla
@cwgodzilla 4 года назад
Shh! You’re gonna ruin it for those of us who are trying to impress boys and girls we like!
@kater-nka
@kater-nka 4 года назад
Another thing that disturbed me about 13rw was how Clay's issues were never really addressed. He had to see his best friend die in the accident he later blamed himself for. And THEN also Hannah kills herself which he obviously feels responsible for as well. And he goes off, listening to these tapes, and clearly hurts himself, repeatedly again and again, physically and emotionally. He has breakdowns, always bruised. He literally points a gun to his head and also wants to jump off a cliff, and it is...just brushed off. And there is no help for him. His mother only demand to keep the doors open. His support system is his own peers, many of who are 'guilty' for Hannah's death. It is clearly shown that he skips on sleep most of the time, skips meals and doesn't really study? But also somehow manages to have good enough grades to pass. So nothing happening in his life has real life consequences? Second season was a mess but I at least hoped, in the third one everything is going to be addressed, discussed and he will finally get the help he needs. But no, instead he runs around, playing a detective and is pictured as this scary unstable young man, and all that matters is a murder of a worst human being in their town. I don't think 13rw did good job at all.
@Lee-ss8yj
@Lee-ss8yj 4 года назад
Also his (ex)-gf (Skye) is self-harming and he also feels responsible for that, especially after she gets hospitalised for a deep cut after a fight between the two
@sabinasas4198
@sabinasas4198 4 года назад
Really shows how people don’t care about men’s mental health
@meghnalekshman4137
@meghnalekshman4137 4 года назад
When my friend told me what 13rw was roughly about, I thought it was going to focus on the protagonist and the guilt he feels, and how that can affect a person. Boy was I wrong...
@Lee-ss8yj
@Lee-ss8yj 4 года назад
@@meghnalekshman4137 Not to be "that" person, but the book does tho. Book Clay has a much more human way on reacting to everything than show Clay does. If I remember right he even throws up because how bad/shocked he feels when listening to his tape
@meghnalekshman4137
@meghnalekshman4137 4 года назад
@@Lee-ss8yj I think the book writer was more sincere than the Netflix show creators.
@luciawdfg
@luciawdfg 3 года назад
i personally feel like i can say “i want to die” and my friends will laugh and say “haha me too,” but if I say “I feel disgusting, I’m hungry, and I don’t want to do anything” nobody cares ig
@computerstatic8868
@computerstatic8868 3 года назад
Lord can we not us pills for mental help as a sign of "insanity"? In my eyes, its awful. I was shown at a young age from the media that pills and medication was something that indicated psychotic relations. Photographs, music, movies- Like come on. We shouldn't be teaching children that people who take medication for mental problems are shown as '"insane".. And then it is shown as quirky and hot that some are psychotic? I don't quite understand..
@andromeda_va39
@andromeda_va39 3 года назад
Yeah, I take some prescription medication for a couple of things, like my anxiety, and I'm not insane.
@puflem
@puflem 3 года назад
I started crying when my psychologist prescribed me medication, because this "Those people are insane" mindset had been thrown at me by the internet
@0rangeeige199
@0rangeeige199 2 года назад
My Mom was thinking about putting me on medication but all she's worried about is the stigma and how it will make us look if I have pills that are supposed to help me
@maya07_11
@maya07_11 2 года назад
yeah my mom takes some pills i think for some areas of the brain idk but she isn't insane
@dylanlewis5113
@dylanlewis5113 3 года назад
Similar stuff happens with alcoholism. I see so many people (mainly women with kids) post these cutesy pictures/memes of how they can't function without drinking. That's not cute/quirky. That's a problem that should be addressed.
@theamvgirlx
@theamvgirlx 3 года назад
Dylan Lewis remember tho, a symptom of alcoholism is not admitting that you have a problem
@JoeMama-dj6tl
@JoeMama-dj6tl 3 года назад
i always see shirts that say things like "wine mom" or "i cant function without my wine" ik some moms think its funny but to me it seem like they are in denial
@jessica5470
@jessica5470 3 года назад
@@JoeMama-dj6tl Ive seen "avoid the hangover, drink more" on a bag in pound land, I was gobsmacked that shit like that is still around
@nobodysXghost
@nobodysXghost 3 года назад
I could talk for hours about this. I'm an alcoholic and addict and it seriously pisses me off to no end how they think it's funny and cute and cool. like a right of passage to say "oh god I need a drink!" you have NO idea what it is to actually feel you *need* a drink. I think it helped trigger my alcoholism as well. I was alluded by the idea of being a hot mess. its constant. name one "cool" show that does have some sexy person drinking a glass of pure liquor in every scene.
@jessica5470
@jessica5470 3 года назад
@@nobodysXghost people don't realise how horrible it is, I get easily addicted but Im used to getting out of it too, I took 18 cocodamol the other day so I was dazed and it was all I had, if I was skinnier that could've killed me, it made my body feel horrible, I was starving but everytime I put something in my mouth it would not go down, and the panic of being sober, the panic of not being able to afford or get your next fix, I can't imagine how alcohol affects the body and how much pain and illness you must feel, I really hope you get better
@UwU-uu9ep
@UwU-uu9ep 3 года назад
Dear everyone who wants an eating disorder to "lose weight", Eating disorders arent the sad girl with mascara tears down her face sitting near the toilet. It's not the pretty blonde girl saying oh I just ate tee hee. Eating disorders are the person sitting in front of any object that can hold things, vomit on their face, snot and tears dripping down. Eating disorders are sitting in your room, thinking of any way you can stay away from the kitchen. Eating disorders are looking in the mirror and thinking how can anyone love you when you can't even control what you eat. Eating disorders are knowing that when you look at the scale in the morning, your gonna base your entire worth on that number. Eating disorders are stuffing your face with food until your stomach is stretched out and you feel like throwing up, and then hating every fiber if your being. Eating disorders arent pretty. They are a mental illness that a side affect might be losing weight.
@nivaxell6509
@nivaxell6509 3 года назад
Some people seem to think that having an eating disorder means changing out fast food with salad or throwing up from time to time. In reality (at least for me) it's more like a constant fight between knowing "I need to eat to stay alive" and thinking "if I eat I'm going to gain weight". This constant planning on what to eat, when to eat, if to eat. Eating something you didn't plan on eating or eating as planned and then still regretting it, just to replan the whole day. Just constantly thinking about food although you have other things to think about. Canceling meetups with friends cause maybe you have to eat together and food just isn't something that fits into your current plan. Fearing that someone might want to pressure you into eating. Fear or losing control over something you desperately want to have control over. The mental fight alone is so extremely exhausting...
@theamvgirlx
@theamvgirlx 3 года назад
I mean if you’re thinking “I wish I had an eating disorder so I’ll lose weight” that in itself signifies that you probably already have one :/ A non disordered person doesn’t think like that.
@skinni_the_P00hBear
@skinni_the_P00hBear 3 года назад
I didn't even have to read this entire thing to know that all of it is true. I really can't read all of it right now because it'll probably unleash hella emotions. I really hate this ED. But at the same time, I don't. I'm so tired....
@beingwithoutaname203
@beingwithoutaname203 3 года назад
It is so toxic also that people think that it works for losing weight. I mean if you want to be reasonably thin and stay alive, that's not what an eating disorder is going to give you. And the long term effects are horrible. Having an eating disorder of any kind, even when it's not lifethreatening, is something that constantly and every second makes your life more difficult
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 года назад
Not eating for days, damageing your teeth with acid you throw up, passing out, getting brittle hair or have it fall out compleatly, loseing your breasts, ruining you bones through lack of nutrition, loseing your fertality if you are unlucky permanently, ruining your joints from exsessiv exersising . . . Dying
@justanotheranimator637
@justanotheranimator637 2 года назад
I’ve noticed an uprising in “traumacore” and while some people use it as an art form to cope, others take it and just make it into an aesthetic so they can have a caption saying “I have childhood trauma uwu”
@TzuyuConfident
@TzuyuConfident Год назад
Traumacore isn’t an aesthetic, it’s a coping mechanism to help people take a look inside what they never had. It’s mainly popular on Pinterest and I’ve seen people comment “trauma is so quirky uwu” like, what?? And if you called them out, they’d get pissy about it and say things like “oh, you’re probably privileged and never went through anything.” Like, I have Katie. That’s why I’m fighting with your slow brain. There’s also an uproar in “Depersonalization aesthetic” or “Dissociation aesthetic” on Pinterest and as someone who suffers with bpd/did, these issues aren’t meant to be romanticized. 🤦🏻‍♀️. Im tired of scrolling through Pinterest and seeing images with eyeballs and words in red saying “I’m not real” over and over again, these things can damage someone, tbh.
@user-jx8tb8jx5y
@user-jx8tb8jx5y 3 года назад
When I had an depressed episode I was so mean. I had daily fights with my mother and my sister where I completely freaked out and was screaming and hitting things and at that time it was hard for all of us to be at home because of me. As soon as anyone talked to me I would be annoyed and aggressive. I know depression has a different effect on everyone but often it‘s also very hard for the people around you
@Moonkin444
@Moonkin444 3 года назад
Omg, I dont hear about this often. It was the same for me, almost destroyed my relationship. My partner was also damaged by my behaviour, thats also something thats not so often talked about.
@tatanabaudisova1056
@tatanabaudisova1056 2 года назад
yes EXACTLY, i'd argue this is the worst part. loneliness -> depression -> angry outbursts that drive people away -> even lonelier. and you just can't fucking stop, it's a nightmare. i'm dealing with this right now and it keeps eating away at me, i don't know what to do anymore
@tatanabaudisova1056
@tatanabaudisova1056 2 года назад
@@resurrectedreplayer6464 oh you're so sweet!
@austinroselmao
@austinroselmao 4 года назад
Tumblr's problem with pro ana blogs brought me so much deeper into my eating disorder. They romanticize the *hell* out of these awful mental illnesses, and I didn't realize this until I was institutionalized. Rose coloured glasses can kill.
@natnuss98
@natnuss98 4 года назад
Serious question for a moment: Would you say the way cartoons or kids shows ar drawn and stylised Does that put more pressure on your body image does it make it all seem more valid more real? Because I hear a lot of people argue, that e.g. the proportions that we can see in old Disney Films or Winx Club contribute to body issues while I feel like that never made any sense to me because it didn't affect me. So please give me your perspective
@austinroselmao
@austinroselmao 4 года назад
@@natnuss98 When I see exaggerated proportions (huge hips and bust, tiny waist) it honestly doesnt bother me that much. However, seeing extremely thin characters (lots of Tim Burton's characters) does trigger me a bit. I think that's because I used to idolize looking like a skeleton, and seeing it portrayed on screen, no matter how much I knew it was fake, gave me something to compare myself to. Thank you for asking :)
@Unknowfn89
@Unknowfn89 4 года назад
clara ao melody i feel the same as OP's reply. it triggers me because of my history, but i do wonder if i feel that way because of my own illness of because it's genuinely an issue (idk if that makes sense i can clarify if you want)
@Lee-ss8yj
@Lee-ss8yj 4 года назад
I suffer from ED-thoughts mostly because of tumblr. I usually don't act on them (thankfully) but certain tumblr posts are burned into my brain and destroyed my relationship to food and eating
@Unknowfn89
@Unknowfn89 4 года назад
Lee Kasa when i was deep into my Bad Shit i would get that "burned into my brain" feeling too. for someone predisposed to have those thoughts pro ana blogs can send them into a tailspin with about three words. pro ana is so disgusting
@avajensen4324
@avajensen4324 3 года назад
Nowadays in my classroom, the sentence ''erase that, it gives me OCD'' or ''OCD check'' has been thrown around by every student at this point expect for me. It angers me when people think that OCD is a *quirky personality trait* and don't actually care about the fact, that it's an actual mental illness. My brother has severe OCD and has had it for 7 years now, it's so bad to the point that he can't even get out of bed before having to lay down 30 times again, which is why many times he can't even go to school, because he can't get down the stairs. I think anyone that knows about OCD, understands why it angers me when the people around me talk about it like it's nothing. It especially hurts a lot to me, because my brother actually not long ago tried to do a suicide attempt in front of me, and it was not the first time. It has become normal to say that one sentence, and I absolutely hate it.
@jessica5470
@jessica5470 3 года назад
I think ocd is probably the most normalised one, if you tidy your room someone will ask if you've got ocd, like no I'm just being clean, I usually respond with something like "if I had ocd I'd probably be screaming and crying over this" because I know it's a lot more severe than I would even know, Ive never met anyone with serious ocd but I know it'd be a lot more severe than most people think, I think that's the biggest problem is that people don't see these things as severe as they actually are, depression isn't just feeling sad, anxiety isn't just being nervous and ocd isn't just being clean. Sorry to hear about your brother, I hope you're both alright
@addisongeissler4387
@addisongeissler4387 3 года назад
I myself have OCD and I do have a friend who will in front of me say "I like ordering things, I'm so OCD" and then she'll smile at me like it's something we share. It just isn't. I don't relate to that. My OCD has been washing my hands so much that I glance down at my wrists and they've dried up to the point there's dry blood there and I didn't even notice it was bleeding, I was just going itch, itch, itch because the chemicals were so bad. Once I didn't switch off a light switch when a plug wasn't pulled in and the fire alarm went out on the theatre. It was a week after I'd stopped therapy and started getting better and I almost decided that getting better wasn't worth it if it was going to risk things like that, because what if it was my fault? Hearing people say that ordering things in order of colour, etc., makes them have OCD is just so upsetting for me. And if they really, genuinely think they do they shouldn't be joking about it.
@AsifHassan
@AsifHassan 3 года назад
Can you tell me what actually ocd is supposed to be? I have no idea after seeing those posts on social media.
@clararoseneville
@clararoseneville 3 года назад
@@AsifHassan Here is a link to the International OCD Foundation, which I find to be very informative on the topic. iocdf.org/about-ocd/
@AsifHassan
@AsifHassan 3 года назад
@@clararoseneville Thank you very much.
@havendidit
@havendidit 3 года назад
I know I'm late, but the sole reason I am opposed to the 13 Reasons Why suicide scene, is because it literally showed me how to kill myself. Now I know how to do that. That's really not information I feel should be so easily accessible, especially to an audience which could include people who struggle with chronic suicidal ideation, depression, or anything else that might put them more at-risk. Also it's just so triggering...
@juipiterg1580
@juipiterg1580 3 года назад
That’s a good point
@certifiedextor
@certifiedextor 3 года назад
my sister watched that show and i honestly hated it.. it seemed so ridiculous. i remember once i walked in on her watching it and i witnessed the scene with hannah where she - TW : selfharm - slit herself and i literally wanted to throw up it was so sickening.
@lenja6004
@lenja6004 3 года назад
Ikrrr, i did read somewhere that they "chose" that kind of suicide "because it takes longer" or something but that's just bs in my opinion. Yes it would take longer, sure, but that's not an excuse to show that to everyone
@havendidit
@havendidit 3 года назад
@@lenja6004 wow I never heard that before. If that was their reasoning then that's disgusting.
@lenja6004
@lenja6004 3 года назад
@@havendidit well they said the chance of survival/getting "caught" is higher?? Idk i still think it's pretty messed up
@bridesheaddeserted
@bridesheaddeserted 3 года назад
Mental health issues have been romanticised so much that some girl at my school diagnosed herself with psychopathy. She thinks she's so edgy and quirky for 'breaking herself' and 'not feeling empathy' and 'tears not coming out when I cry', with all those shitty tiktok emojis. As someone who has struggled for a while with deteriorating mental health, it's not cute, it's not edgy and it's definitely not quirky. Being emotionally numb is terrible, and it can make it hard to function day to day. Crying is difficult for me and I've been picked on for not crying in certain situations, which is pretty fucking stupid in hindsight. And when I reach an actual breaking point and do cry, I'm ridiculed and invalidated, which doesn't make sense at all, so it's a damned if I do damned if I don't situation.
@user-ly3pj1yz4l
@user-ly3pj1yz4l 4 года назад
Someone I know wrote a song called “I never look pretty when I cry” and we found lyrics from her song taken out of context on tumblr and it was terrifying
@catya
@catya 4 года назад
isn't there a song by Lana Del Rey called "pretty when you cry"? could be that one
@jules-cd3lx
@jules-cd3lx 3 года назад
wtf is wrong with being pansexual?
@copoutdreamscape
@copoutdreamscape 3 года назад
aaaa that was rude and so unrelated to the original comment :/
@idkanymore2183
@idkanymore2183 3 года назад
@@jules-cd3lx oh nothing I'm pan too 😳
@missajenston7277
@missajenston7277 3 года назад
if u wanna understand why it was said, then i recommend looking up @pannieflops on instagram - it may come off as harsh but they have a lot of sources, historical and logical, on why pansexual is a harmful label.
@vampire-p
@vampire-p 4 года назад
The whole romanticism of mental health issues and then being seen as “trendy” is actually why I thought I was faking my mental health issues. It’s not fun. EDIT: Okay wow. All these comments are fuckin heartbreaking. Hugs to those of you comfy with them.
@mamomamomammon4345
@mamomamomammon4345 3 года назад
^
@krisbang2382
@krisbang2382 3 года назад
exactly, I thought that it´s maybe not real because of this whole trend...
@lily91109
@lily91109 3 года назад
I still struggle with accepting that I'm not faking it. This is going to be a long road.
@zombie_6555
@zombie_6555 3 года назад
I always end up sitting down with my own thoughts frequently wondering if what I'm feeling is even real sometimes bc of that
@elsiekarp
@elsiekarp 3 года назад
I still think I'm faking my mental health issues even though I've been in therapy and on meds for years.
@danidkg4071
@danidkg4071 3 года назад
the suicide scene was actually very harmful and mental health professionals even called out the show for doing something that was potentially dangerous
@FxmemesFox
@FxmemesFox 3 года назад
If someone said “I have crippling Depression and anxiety uwu # Wokesquad” that would be considered cute and fine. NOW replace crippling depression and anxiety with “ I have a mental disorder which makes me clinically sad and suicidal, along with another which makes me nitpick myself to the point of starvation, Surgerys, and a voice in my head saying no one will ever love me and everytime I look in a mirror I say I’m never good enough uwu-“ Do these really have two totally different meanings now? Same applies if you switch that out for a physical disability. “I have two paralyzed legs uwu” Really? Your telling me that this is OK?
@notxmany6273
@notxmany6273 3 года назад
This is the best comment i’ve seen so far, it’s 100% true
@0rangeeige199
@0rangeeige199 2 года назад
Ikr people like this make me sick
@summonedhasbeen1478
@summonedhasbeen1478 4 года назад
Another thing worth mentioning: how OCD has become so trivialised that for a lot of people it's just seen as a quirky personality trait. As someone who lives with OCD, the common perception of the illness actually makes it difficult to communicate openly about what I'm going through. For most people, especially in my cohort of teenage girls, saying "I have OCD" is about as casual a statement as "I had a coffee this morning." When I'm trying to explain to my classmates that OCD is a real mental illness and that *it actually hurts me when they use it as an adjective to make themselves seem quirky*, I'm told that I'm just overreacting and that it's meant to be a joke. This also means that I can't really talk about it to anyone or ask for help when I'm having an attack because of how it's perceived. I'm not really sure when the phenomenon of OCD trivialisation started, but I'd be really interested to find out. I love your work, Rachel. Sending lots of love
@burke615
@burke615 4 года назад
Based solely on my memory, I would say the late 80s/early 90s is when we started using "my OCD" to mean "my casual desire for order" as opposed to "my sometimes debilitating mental illness." Yes, I liked my CDs to have the printing on the spines facing the same way, and in alphabetical order by artist's name; no, that wasn't really because of OCD. It would literally be another 20 years before I figured out that that language was inappropriate.
@sludgemuffin2447
@sludgemuffin2447 4 года назад
depression snek I hate when people say things like “I’m so OCD.” People in my class did it; even one of the teachers said we should be “a bit OCD” about one of the projects we were doing. It made me so mad, because I was struggling with real OCD and none of them knew. But I couldn’t say anything because I also have social anxiety and selective mutism.
@TadpolesTV
@TadpolesTV 4 года назад
It is absolutely frustrating! The worst part is that if you try to correct or criticize their inappropriate use of term, then suddenly you become the asshole! Not the person who is using the mental health issue you seriously struggle with everyday to inaccurately describe a non-detrimental personality quirk they have.
@Nakia11798
@Nakia11798 4 года назад
I never use OCD so casually. I have used it in reference to people who clean their house daily and feel out of order if they don't do so. I've used the word obsession in reference to my own overthinking of a topic for way too long, but minor obsession or wanting basic order does not make ocd.
@JasminMiettunen
@JasminMiettunen 4 года назад
Sludge Muffin oh man, the teacher one really pisses me off. I can understand kids and teenagers not knowing better, not realising the whole picture, but not just an adult, a fucking teacher??? I'd be the sneaky bitch to write a letter explaining why that's not okay and leave it on their table lmao
@katiejeanne
@katiejeanne 4 года назад
The opposite of bad representation: Bojack Horseman gives an amazing realistic representation of mental health and how it can affect a person.
@colorbar.s
@colorbar.s 3 года назад
or a horse.
@malena5026
@malena5026 3 года назад
Watch Winnie the Pooh it’s the same there and that’s a kids show
@onussi3148
@onussi3148 3 года назад
Absolutely
@RAC00NFANGIRL
@RAC00NFANGIRL 3 года назад
That show I relate too soo much Main character is good guy! He has a lot dark things happen too him characters around him! Mom was abusive she was abused! You feel emotion for those characters! Show how ugly mental illnesses can be!
@pamcakesplease
@pamcakesplease 3 года назад
Omg so true, it’s super underrated
@beepbeepimmajeep
@beepbeepimmajeep 3 года назад
As someone who's been diagnosed with ADHD, depression and generalized anxiety, it's not funny or a joke at all. People aren't overreacting when they say they can't just do the work or get up from bed. It's not that we're lazy. There' much more than to that. I remember trying to reach out to share my story in class, but the first thing people said was that I was overreacting or just acting for attention. There was even one person who asked, "Then why aren't you dead yet?" That says a lot about how mental health is viewed in society. Even people. who aren't alone, seem happy and successful can still possibly have depression. And if you have depression, you are not alone. You can reach out to others for help, and please do so before it's too late. This is what I want to say to others here, and this is what I say to others when they ask me why I'm depressed when I seem successful and happy.
@happythoughts559
@happythoughts559 3 года назад
Mental illnesses are not pretty or aesthetic. My anxiety, depression, panic, self-harm has helped me to write and draw beautiful things but my illnesses themselves are not beautiful. Thank you for bringing awareness to this growing problem.
@mo_7199
@mo_7199 4 года назад
What if we made a movie on a recovering person with depression? And actually see them get better and start to enjoy life more? Like it happens sometimes in real life?
@nobodysXghost
@nobodysXghost 3 года назад
the show After Life on Netflix
@mo_7199
@mo_7199 3 года назад
@@nobodysXghost thanks for the recommendatiom
@gaesimp__
@gaesimp__ 3 года назад
Yeah! I want to see a film like that
@grab9940
@grab9940 3 года назад
theres a movie called before i disappear thats amazing and covers this well
@mo_7199
@mo_7199 3 года назад
@@grab9940 Is it on netflix?
@RealisticOwl
@RealisticOwl 4 года назад
Harley Quinn and jokers relationship definitely glamorizes both mental health and domestic abuse. Especially in Suicide squad
@supermerio8335
@supermerio8335 4 года назад
I dont think this movie can romanticize anything tbh
@beep3242
@beep3242 4 года назад
Thankfully, Harley Quinn leaves Joker in both the cartoon and the comics and ends up with Ivy. It's made very clear that Harley was being abused and they make sure to paint Joker in a negative light, which I appreciate
@skyisherelol3492
@skyisherelol3492 4 года назад
@@beep3242 wait she got with ivy?heck yes!
@giannamccord
@giannamccord 3 года назад
I think the suicide squad was the only movie where the Joker actually gave a crap about Harley.
@waddles7478
@waddles7478 3 года назад
I hate that the internet has made everyone think that anxiety is just being scared, being nervous or just fidgeting, these can be some habits of people with anxiety but it's not all of it. You can't self diagnose yourself with a mental illness or just take a quiz online and say you have it, you have to go to a doctor. I am diagnosed with anxiety but my doctor never gave me any advise on how to stop or deal with it, so I wanted to go see another one so I could get some better help, but my parents don't believe in mental health, they say it's not real. I've self harmed myself because of how stressed I am all the time, I pick at my hand until the skin is peeled and blood comes out, sometimes I enjoy the pain bc it helps me clear my mind and focus on it instead of on my thoughts, I also do this with biting my lips. I'm doing online classes even though we can go physically bc I'm too scared of my classmates. I can't talk to them, my head is too full and it hurts, my heart hurts and I can't breath when I step into the classroom, I can't focus on my classes only thinking about what I'm going to do at lunch because I have no friends and what others are going to think. I'm not going to go into details about my eating disorders bc I'm still too scared to talk about them and how they ruined such a long period of my life, taking me over completely and mostly because I'm anxious enough already and I don't want to relive the events that are that horrible time. I also have mental breakdowns and I get triggered seeing certain things, I have disorientation issues sometimes, even having suicidal thoughts at some point but no one believes me bc they say my life isn't hard and I don't have a reason to have this turmoil and all of these problems. My family makes me doubt if I'm just making this up, they make me think I'm crazy. I don't understand what's so glamorous about mental issues, I have so much more to share but no one seems to care, to listen or to believe me. So the girls on tiktok and Instagram saying they have anxiety and liking suicidal posts when they're laughing with their friends at school, posting photos and stories of their happy families and being so openly joyous but when it's a trend they cut their hair and now they have mental health issues. Nine year Olds on tiktok are pretending to have anxiety just for their parents to buy them fidget toys (for me they don't work but OK) isn't okay to me. I'm not doubting anyone with their problems but these are the same people that made fun of me for being overweight (one of the reasons for my eating disorders, but hey it worked) and for being shy/not having many friends to having no friends currently, claim they have anxiety when they're the ones that caused mine seems hypocritical. Sorry for rambling but no one seems to listen to me. Anxiety consumes my life and my being, it's not fun.
@MayaKosnikm
@MayaKosnikm 3 года назад
I agree with you and am so sorry. I also have it and it also lead me to my cutting addiction.. I hope you find peace eventually
@maya07_11
@maya07_11 2 года назад
omg you pick your finger skin too? i used to eat that
@jupiter5238
@jupiter5238 3 года назад
while i was already suicidal, 13 reasons why regrettably did inspire my suicide attempt in which i failed to overdose and was hospitalized. this was in sixth grade, this show was definitely not a good influence.
@bishmita.dutta11
@bishmita.dutta11 3 года назад
true..could make past 3rd episode it was depressing
@xxib4vry
@xxib4vry 4 года назад
its worth mentioning also: Clay Jensen has a hero complex that continues past Hannah Baker. His next girlfriend is a girl called Skye who suffers bipolar disorder. He only pursues a relationship with her after seeing her self harm marks. In the third season he becomes obsessed with a girl named Ani (idk if i spelt that right) because he believes she was raped by Bryce Walker (she was not). another thing worth mentioning: the show runners for 13 reasons why consulted a mental health charity asking what they should and shouldnt do. they were told specifically not to show the suicide. they did it anyway.
@malena5026
@malena5026 3 года назад
Wasn’t that because it is triggering? On the other side it shows how painful it can be to take your own life (like in the show) and how it affects your parents.
@xxib4vry
@xxib4vry 3 года назад
@@malena5026 ​ yes, they were told not to show the suicide as it would trigger people. It wasn't necessary to show, even if you say its showing how painful it can be and how it affects those around you; the whole SERIES is showing the ripple effect of Hannah's death and how others are mourning her. Additionally, it was like they WANTED to trigger people. They changed the method to be more graphic (in the book, she takes pills) and when the first season was initially released, there was no trigger warning on the episode. The irresponsibility of the show runners and lack of concern for viewer well being is astonishing either way.
@suchi203
@suchi203 3 года назад
I kinda think they did a good job with Clay, they try to show how insane he was and how he is not a good example. but they kinda fucked it up when everything went okay thanks to him.
@gabriellevalentine2057
@gabriellevalentine2057 3 года назад
@@suchi203 I think they did him wrong by not having his psychologist father put him in a mental institution when he started sneaking around at night during Season One.
@edxenvertigo6701
@edxenvertigo6701 3 года назад
i think the show could of done a lot more representation and a LOT more work and had several opportunities especially the fact bryce walker was most definitely not a good character what they never understood was that noone in the actual show was a good character the arc that was set for Bryce as well was already unnecessary due to the fact that it hurts and triggers actual victims that have struggled with traumatic flashbacks of rape and people sexualizing them people enjoy his character when in reality it hurts the victim a lot more though i think it was very unnecessary to show that scene in the bath tub i still think the show already had a trigger warnings though people did not pay attention anyway so? either way it was poorly done
@blockblock376
@blockblock376 3 года назад
It’s so dangerous to find comfort in this. Because you literally find comfort in staying ill, rather then going forward to get treatment...
@ZeldaKirby01
@ZeldaKirby01 3 года назад
this. idk why i somehow felt comfort in being depressed, but it made getting better more difficult. It wasnt until i reached my 6th therapist and he told me "y'know, the therapy wont work unless you want it to". He had a long waitlist of patients and told me that he would give me some time to think about if i wanted therapy at that point in my life. I sincerely thought about my depression and focused on all the bad things it did for me and how long i had been dealing with it. I started to picture what getting better would look like and i really wanted that. It was weird because i didnt realize before how "comforting" i found being depressed and how it was stopping me from improving. I wish they would show that more in tv/movies. They often paint depression as this "inevitable, beautifully tragic" thing and RARELY ever show people getting help for it or getting better in a realistic way (i.e. going to therapy and using techniques learned there as opposed to finding someone who finds ur depression beautiful).
@carnystrickland7367
@carnystrickland7367 3 года назад
Yes because of this shit with all my severe mental heath issues I believed that if I got better that I was a fake or that I wasn’t strong to deal with it for the rest of my life. I have now got the best doctor in the world who has be able to manage me but at the end of day I still will live with these diseases for the rest of my life but at least I’m able to live and have a relationships with everyone I love and who treats me right.
@puflem
@puflem 3 года назад
Yep. I started to get depression when I was 12 and it got untreated for a long time so I needed to find a way to live with it. I find comfort in it and it's hard to imagine myself not having depression. I'm sometimes scared that that's all I am anymore
@puflem
@puflem 3 года назад
@@carnystrickland4888 I hope you're gonna find a way to overcome this! Stay safe too :)
@kade6952
@kade6952 3 года назад
ok and? I'm getting skinny bestie I'll get treatment when I need it
@evavrdz
@evavrdz 3 года назад
I remember a friend of mine said “ Depression is just an phase lol” ah yes. My constant Suicidal thoughts, crying and embarrassment , Suffering because my parents never listen is just a phase.
@syaamethyst1297
@syaamethyst1297 2 года назад
My friend who’s pretty young started making jokes about suicide. I finally just paused the conversation, looked them in the eye and told them as clearly as I could that I don’t want them to joke about it because then I’ll never know if they mean it. I hate that people joke about that stuff, I don’t know whether the mean it and I should support them, or if they don’t and at just joking. Either way it feels like I’m expected to just laugh off jokes about serious topics like that which doesn’t feel right.
@WhitneyDahlin
@WhitneyDahlin 8 месяцев назад
The thing is though some people use humor to help deal with the very real depressing thoughts they have. And it is implied in this video that artists aren't allowed to make art based off of their experiences of mental illness. I guess everyone thinks that if an artist is mentally ill their arts has to be ugly. They aren't allowed to make beautiful art. Nothing beautiful is allowed to come from their mental illness because God forbid random people MAY decide they want an illness now. There are both sides to each coin. And I think it's better to teach kids and teens how to use critical thinking than to start banning art that makes illness look beautiful.
@miyadnya
@miyadnya 3 года назад
I hate when someone posts on their instagram story something about mental ilness and self harm and put emojis like: 😍🤤🥵❤😻🤩🙂
@xxxx5370
@xxxx5370 3 года назад
or photos of self harm with the caption “what would u do if this was me”
@wowsports8800
@wowsports8800 3 года назад
People do that?!?
@APRILartz
@APRILartz 3 года назад
BEATRIZ PIMENTA yes. all the time. i see it too
@xLadyMary
@xLadyMary 3 года назад
• anne Yup, like people saying: depressed boys 😍😘🥰💖😊 Makes me ill!!
@theinternetisqueer
@theinternetisqueer 3 года назад
a girl in my school posted a post that said 'suicidal people are just angels wanted to return to heaven' and I message her saying that's really triggering and not to repost it and she got angry at me
@katiemolloy9073
@katiemolloy9073 4 года назад
I did have a problem with Hannah Baker’s suicide scene, not because it was a How too or because it was too raw, but because it really just wasn’t accurate. It is really really really hard to kill yourself and most attempts leave you severely damaged but still alive
@heidikaranta3100
@heidikaranta3100 4 года назад
Katie Molloy I have a problem with that message. It's actually good that every attempt doesn't result in death. We only have this life. No second shots. The problem isn't in how the attempt is made, rather than that it is made in the first place. There's no glamour or glory in dying.
@alisonmcalistair
@alisonmcalistair 4 года назад
I don't like 13 reasons why, but I feel like showing a failed attempt may trivialize the severity of attempting suicide. Obviously, failed attempts are physicall, mentally, and permanently traumatic. They can ruin lives too. However, its important to show that you dont mess around with this stuff, because it is likely you can die.
@denaerangel
@denaerangel 4 года назад
As someone who's survived many on and off attempts, this comment is 100% correct.
@principleshipcoleoid8095
@principleshipcoleoid8095 4 года назад
Males somehow use more lethal methods. We should probably work both on mental health and discrimination. Like how fathers are treated by family courts is disgusting. I will claim that some part of suicides is because of family courts. 50/50 custody should be the starting point.
@sora1498
@sora1498 4 года назад
it kind of made it look easy to do, like you will 100% die, if that makes sense. like it kinda made it seem like killing yourself isn't hard to do if that makes sense???
@greatboredompineappl
@greatboredompineappl 3 года назад
I think the Lana Del Rey situation is very different. A person talking about their own mental health struggles in their music, even if “pretty imagery” is used, being censored or shamed feels worse to me. And asking celebrities not to reveal their mental health issues because they “live glamourously” is a terrible idea and contributes to stereotypes about how mental illness cannot happen to literally anyone.
@virtualmorgue
@virtualmorgue 2 года назад
Yeah tbh
@Elsie-xu6ie
@Elsie-xu6ie 3 года назад
I just wanna say... I have no mental health issues of any type and I watched the first and second season of 13 Reasons Why without any issues coming from the show... Except this one; I watched Hannah's suicide scene before they cut it from the show... And it has fucking SCARRED me for life. I can't look at my wrists anymore without feeling sick to my stomach or remembering that that part of my body is a part that could kill me if it got slashed. I remember my friend tried to draw up my wrist and I had to run to the bathroom and vomit because of it. I watched the show when I was 12... Maybe 13... And I'll never get back being able to look at my wrists. It's funny, because most people don't see why it would affect me... But it fucking does. The scene was too graphic and portrayed too much of what suicide LOOKS like, without portraying what it's meant to make you FEEL like in a respectful way... And they did this in a way that literally could cause trauma to its younger audience who watch to learn to cope with their mental health issues. The show is fine for entertainment, but don't preach that your here to help people with mental health and "start a conversation" when you are portraying a suicide scene in such a hands on fashion... Its truly disgusting.
@bread4237
@bread4237 3 года назад
I am so so sorry that you saw that. I've never seen the show and I never will. I've never self harmed but I've had s/o's and family who have so seeing self harm scars is triggering for me too (not nearly as triggering as for people who have self harmed, but still) even thinking about that kind of thing makes me sick. And knowing that it inspired copycat suicides after the episode aired.
@lefromage2001
@lefromage2001 3 года назад
tw// sh (edit: i am proud to say I have been clean for almost two months now!! A little after I posted this comment, i realised i needed help, so i searched for some good alternatives and coping mechanisms. Right now i like re-organising my bookshelf when the urge to sh comes up again. if you're struggling with sh, I love you and please take car of yourself, and find alternatives and safe ways to start the road to recovery. I love you so much, and I know mental health is difficult and scary. ) ima self-harmer and things hae been getting worse and im so paranoid ill accidentally kill myself and yet at the same time im not scared of death im scared if itll be slow or painful or ill regret something and its too much- i've never seen 13RW but ive heard eniugh to know to never watch it
@BlueHazyDreams
@BlueHazyDreams 3 года назад
Yeah, I'm like 9-10 years clean and I don't often find things too triggering. Watching Hannah's suicide was the most triggered I've been since I quit.
@Elsie-xu6ie
@Elsie-xu6ie 3 года назад
@@BlueHazyDreams I'm sorry to hear that it affected you so negatively. 🥺💙
@bonnie4754
@bonnie4754 2 года назад
@@lefromage2001 I'm glad you're on your way to recovery! I hope you are doing okay and God bless you!
@slwilliams13
@slwilliams13 4 года назад
This is what Heathers did right. I feel like other movies and some shows weren't trying to romanticize mental illness, but the fans ruined it. Heathers is different because the main character is the one against glamorizing suicide. Everyone throughout the movie was analyzing and romanticizing Heather, Kurt and Rams 'suicides'. Heather Duke calls Martha's suicide attempt her "trying to imitate the popular people and failing miserably". Heather McNamara justifies her own suicide attempt saying "Well what about Heather and Kurt and Ram?" Not to mention how everyone brushes off Dukes bulimia and just says it's "so '87". Veronica isn't like them. She doesn't romanticize or brush off any mental illness. She's worried about Martha Dunnstock and stops McNamaras suicide attempt. She tells her parents, who were seemingly unfazed by all the 'suicides', that teenagers didn't want to be "experimented on like guinea pigs or patronized like bunny rabits". Heathers is a great commentary on society as a whole, and I'd really recommend watching it. Okay, veronica did fake her own and multiple of her peers suicides, but they were all because of JD. She really did try to stop her peers and family from ignoring or glamorizing mental illness.
@spookyspirits4462
@spookyspirits4462 3 года назад
I completely agree. After Heather Chandler's death everyone was talking about how the 's*icide' finally gave her depth and character beyond "airhead b*tch". The issues and horrible nature of it was overlooked and dismissed, to the point where her s*icide note was passed around the classroom, described as "beautiful". The audience can fully see how ridiculous and wrong this is, because they know it wasn't a suicide. She didn't have those issues. These people were so caught up in the romanticized death that they didn't further investigate it. This is also mentioned when Veronica tries to stop JD from murdering Heather Duke, and JD says he doesn't need her to forge the note because people don't actually care. He mentions that people will 'take anything they can get' when it comes to s*icide, that they're happy to jump to romanticize the situation.
@grayshere7644
@grayshere7644 3 года назад
Heathers is one of my favourite movies and the musical has some absolute bops. I don't really have anything else I can add to what you've both commented, but I thought I'd just put this quote here: "Suicide gave Heather depth, Kurt a soul, and Ram a brain."
@Audrey.May16
@Audrey.May16 3 года назад
Even though I’ve only listened to the musical I agree completely Veronica is a great person and suicide is not cool
@luthientinuviel3883
@luthientinuviel3883 3 года назад
Yeah Heathers is amazing!
@cigarettediet1185
@cigarettediet1185 3 года назад
old good times :') 89
@frapiichino
@frapiichino 4 года назад
I've actually heard a shit ton of people saying "omg I'm so hyperactive I must have adhd tehe" and honestly. No,just know. Adhd is MUCH more thsn just hyperactivity. It's horrible. You can't concentrate like 87% of the time, you sometimes have low seld esteem, you're always moody, and there's just so much more to it. Plus you definitely need a medical diagnosis if you say you have adhd.
@alanatrevino2424
@alanatrevino2424 4 года назад
It annoys the hell out of me because my brother has adhd and has to take meds to focus. On weekends and holidays when he doesn't, he'll suddenly fidget or refuse to sit down to eat and walk around our kitchen island for no reason other than he feels like he has to.
@bellac6311
@bellac6311 4 года назад
Omg i know how you feel. Its the same as when people ahod ont have autism, say they had a meltodown, when in reality they just got a bit stressed. Or when people tidy up, then say "oh, im just so OCD sometimes!" It disgusts me. People need to wake up and realize that they should be grateful they arent f****** disabled, instead of pretending to be for attention.
@caseymoore5180
@caseymoore5180 4 года назад
@@bellac6311 I had an issue with self-diagnosis because of all the stereotypes surrounding ADHD and Bipolar disorder, and the thing I actually got diagnosed with, OCD, I never thought I had because of the stereotypes surrounding it.
@n0longer
@n0longer 4 года назад
My Friend at School has ADHD, and his younger Brother might have it too. He sometimes can't concentrate when my other Friends and I talk to him and it kinda sucks, but we still all like him. People who say "yeah, I have ADHD" don't really know what it is unless they aren't faking it.
@br12_
@br12_ 4 года назад
My friend’s sister has it , my friend said I might have it tho a little bit...
@x_sophie_x5604
@x_sophie_x5604 3 года назад
I said to a friend I had depression and she went Haha same quarantine depression and I was like no I genuinely do and she was like mood
@thegaypoopinthetoiletyouar8187
@thegaypoopinthetoiletyouar8187 3 года назад
x_sophie _x ugh thats so annoying when people dont take you seriously you just want to scream at them to take you seriously
@Kevin_Theadore1
@Kevin_Theadore1 2 года назад
I go "haha same" when people talk about depression because I can't express my emotions
@thalia135
@thalia135 3 года назад
Fr when I was like 12 I would romanticize mental illnesses like crazy and now I’m here with depression, ocd and an ed and there is nothing to romanticize about it lol
@virtualmorgue
@virtualmorgue 2 года назад
That’s exactly what happened to me ;-;
@nikki1339
@nikki1339 3 года назад
Tiktok tends to romanticize mental illness a lott, either by showing only the cute/cool sides of it or making trends with it.
@noellemugwe
@noellemugwe 3 года назад
yes!! like that audio of cassie from skins saying she'll love sid forever. when i saw that i was mortified that people were using it in a trend that was so far removed from the scene, although i do understand how out of context it might sound more shallow/not as deep as it was.
@waddles7478
@waddles7478 3 года назад
Ikr, so many of the popular girls at my school are saying theyre having mental breakdowns bc they cut their hair. Like no, it isn't fun to actually have one but it's a trend to have depression now so-
@notxmany6273
@notxmany6273 3 года назад
Exactly, it’s so sad
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 3 года назад
Apparently in Russia, suicide has became a trendy meme.
@puflem
@puflem 3 года назад
There's cool sides of it?
@eptck
@eptck 4 года назад
self-diagnosis in the context of "i spent 20 minutes scrolling through tumblr and i relate to some of these posts about not being able to ask for extra sauce at a restaurant, i must have anxiety! i'm perfectly able to get an official diagnosis if i want one, but i don't want to be proven wrong!" is bullshit. self-diagnosis in the context of "i've done weeks of research and greatly identify with something that i can't get diagnosed with for various reasons, but it's given me such a vast understanding of things i've done all my life that i've never had context for before and its given me more and better ways to deal with this" is perfectly valid and good and people making fun of self-diagnosis are mostly talking about the first version of it. keep going. keep getting stronger. hopefully you'll be able to get diagnosed soon (and see better days soon!!)
@NoName-ze4qn
@NoName-ze4qn 4 года назад
Is Wikipedia a valid source, or do you have to look at only papers/articles/books by professionals?
@eptck
@eptck 4 года назад
No Name i'd say ur best source would be people who've lived the experience (preferably adults, because they'll have a more logical look at things) or someone who's dealt with others with the thing u think u may have in a medical setting. they'll have the most accurate, hands-on information for u
@Flareontoast
@Flareontoast 4 года назад
@@eptck also there are resources by people with a certain condition, and forums with checklists etc.
@julietf3360
@julietf3360 4 года назад
I’m self diagnosed with anxiety but I can’t ask for professional help due to the fact that can’t go on meds because taking pills is a trigger for panic attacks and self-harm for me. Edit: TO ANYONE WHO SEES THIS: I AM NOW IN THERAPY AND I AM WORKING OUT EVERYTHING!! I AM THROWING MY PASSION INTO SHIT I LOVE AND SLOWLY GETTING OVER MY FEAR OF PILLS BY PRACTICE-SWALLOWING TIC TACS SO PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS COMMENT ANYMORE
@allisynweisenberger1941
@allisynweisenberger1941 4 года назад
Kalokun I always feel guilty for being self-diagnosed, but I also don’t doubt it because I have scored high on every online tests, related to articles about it (which I have tried to make sure were good sources), show most symptoms, and also have a higher risk because my mother has the mental illness. I haven’t been able to see a professional yet (though I should be soon), and even my people who said they have experienced it said that I likely have it. Also, I just want to say that, while I agree with your post, you also have to recognize that the teenage tumblr users are also part of the stigma related to mental health. There is a difference between “I don’t want to be diagnosed with something different and be proven wrong” and “I don’t want to be diagnosed with something different and then everyone thinks I’m an attention seeker”.
@kade6952
@kade6952 3 года назад
I think it's funny how so gatekeepy mentally illnesses are, I have depression and I get pissed when other people who have it as well say "you don't ACTUALLY have depression" if the person they're talking to's depression doesn't line up with theirs
@viviannevandiver
@viviannevandiver 3 года назад
When I was little probably around the age of 8 my dad would tell be and my brother to not be so fooled of what we’re being showed and his examples were commercials of people drinking beer on the beach and my dad would say “but in reality they don’t show you puking up everything in the side of the road” and that has stuck with me ever since.
@jasminepeucker6824
@jasminepeucker6824 4 года назад
God. 13 Reasons Why always makes me so angry. Depression (for me) is a mental illness riddled with guilt; so why would anyone who is depressed BLAME THEIR DEATH ON OTHER PEOPLE? When I was in high school, people found out I struggled with my mental health, and then they would message me at night while I was avoiding my insomnia about how they’re depressed and anxious etc. I would then tell them who my doctor was, who my psych was, which psych made me uncomfortable and lots of other useful information. Then they would say “oh, it’s not that bad” Mental illness is not something that should be romanticised at all, full stop. Being sad isn’t a personality. I really appreciate you talking about this. More people need to know.
@xelith6157
@xelith6157 4 года назад
Because not everyone's depression looks the same. Comments like this piss me off. No one is like you, and just because you have depression, doesn't mean everyone's depression looks like yours. Everyone's experiences differ and everyone digests them differently. I've had depression for 10 years and I'm diagnosed with BPD, and I'm just as angry at my bullies as I am at myself. It's a neverending, constant back and forth between blaming myself and them. They fucking ruined my life. If I killed myself when I was at my lowest, I very much would've blamed them for it because of the toxic and delusional mindset I and many other people with depression were in. I wrote a whole novel about how bad it was, but it was too long and personal. Regardless, as the video says depression isn't pretty, but I have to add, it can make you a bad person. I know at one point, it made me one, and I admit it. There were times I blamed everyone but myself just because I couldn't live with hating myself so much. Yes, that's a thing, it's not pretty, but it's true. I hated not only myself but everyone around me, and I blamed whoever I could. I try to be as good of a person as I can be now, but believe it or not, depression can make you selfish in more ways than you realize, and certainly not every person is like you. When I was at my lowest, I wanted to get back to people just like Hannah did. No, she might not have been a good person, but neither was I. Depression makes you ugly. Welcome to *mental illness manifests differently in anyone*.
@Falco2Itachi
@Falco2Itachi 4 года назад
@Xelith Jasmine mentioned that her comment describes was how it was for her. I don't think she meant to be rude or to say that that's the only way to be affected to depression. And to be honest I felt this more in her comment than yours.
@jasminepeucker6824
@jasminepeucker6824 4 года назад
Falco2Itachi thank you! I wasn’t sure how to reply to the first comment without sounding rude and pointing out that I had said “for me”. In fairness, I could have worded my comment a bit better. I did not mean to offend or belittle anyone’s experience in any way, and I’m sorry that that is the way you viewed my comment, @Xelith. Mental illness is an uphill struggle, no matter what anyone is going through. I hope you, and everyone who is reading this will be in a better place mentally someday soon! 😊
@shambhavisharma2592
@shambhavisharma2592 3 года назад
@Jasmine Peucker I never like to say that I am depressed and I don't like to admit that I have had bad thoughts (never suicidal, thank god), there are moments when I hate my life and there have been more than a few times that I have sa8d out loud "why me? Just finish this" but I've had more good stuff happen than the bad, your comment just looked like a safe place to spread out my thoughts without being targeted and judged, so here goes, I'm not depressed but sometimes I THINK i am, I don't need a psych but I won't mind someone to listen to me without saying "me too bruh" and I know you guys have it worse but I would love to have someone say "but that does not make your struggle any less". I hope I did not hurt anyone, just my point, you can educate me if you want, I'm always open to that P.S. I'm a medical student now, I understand stuff a lot more and it's so much better when you find something you love enough to let go of EVERY bad feeling you've ever felt.
@tochterchenfrost4784
@tochterchenfrost4784 3 года назад
@@jasminepeucker6824 i think it's your wording...or style. the big Kapital Letters 'why would[...]BLAME THEIR DEATH[...]?' that got me too, like @Xelith. but you put a questionmark on the end, so i guess you're open for answers...? the moments i was closest to suicide i very often blamed others/the world for hurting me so much. even if they didn't do anything specific to activley hurt me, with my death i thought i could eventually give some of that pain back, that 'they'/'the world' caused me. in my case it was mostly around feeling loney, left alone while surrounded by people who just wouldn't become the close/good friends and supporters i wanted and needed them to be. there was always a tiny voice in the back of my had, who told me that it's not actually their fault, but beeing in a very depressed state i did a lot of irrational thinking. so, yeah, basically, i think you coud've worded your opinion more carefully. otherwise, sure, everyone experiences depression and other mental illnesses quite differently, that we can probably 'all' agree on. thanks, i hope you feel better too :)
@mistymouse1039
@mistymouse1039 4 года назад
I feel the need to tell my story: I suffered a bout of bad depression when I was in high school. I could barely function. Every day was a struggle to exist outside of my filthy school hoody. I would burry myself in that sweatshirt and just sob over the smallest of things. I felt like a disgusting blob of garbage. And I was always single out by the teachers who were concerned about my constant crying and hiding. It was embarrassing. It was gross. Having a panic attack over having to right a poem in your English class when all you want is to not be noticed is not a pretty thing. It’s still embarrassing for me to think back on it.
@Romanticoutlaw
@Romanticoutlaw 4 года назад
I had a very similar experience and hoo boy. I remember living in a particular hoodie. At one point I started wearing it as a shirt without a shirt under, because that way I never even had to take it off.
@yeet8627
@yeet8627 3 года назад
A similar thing happened to me too. Crying at school isn’t a “cool” and “aesthetic” thing. I remember feeling so embarrassed and guilty because I felt like I was wasting my teacher’s time. It was never a pretty thing. Idk why people thing it’s “cool”
@soupii
@soupii 3 года назад
Musical Meme crying in school was so embarrassing because people would just stare at me, its not cool its so uncomfortable but you just cant stop sometimes. i remember i was really anxious and i ended up where my hands had to have everything symmetrical on them and sometimes [someone*] brushed their jacket against me and i broke out in tears. was not fun
@yeet8627
@yeet8627 3 года назад
soup i know right. And you know what’s the worst part? My classmates kept calling me “sensitive” and a “cry baby”. It’s not like I can help it. I cry when I’m stressed, anxious, angry, sad, upset.. they don’t know I didn’t even chose to become like this. I’m really pissed how people make depression and crying like a cool and cute thing.. like no stop it.. being called sensitive and being embarrassed all the time isn’t cool
@mandarinablue8438
@mandarinablue8438 3 года назад
I had bouts of depression too and oh god I really thought dying was the only option at 15 or 16. Thinking of my crush saved me partly. He was able to give me so much positivity to last me for some time until I arrived home. I used him like my antidepressant. When I say use I mean I'd sorta ask him sometimes to walk home with me. Because we had intersected paths. I'd get so mad when other girl would do that just because he was handsome. Like bitch I need this guy to stay alive. Fuck off. Yeah I dunno what I was thinking. I regret not being able to be his friend. He was and is such a chill and passionate guy.
@RobinIsMyFrickingNameDuh
@RobinIsMyFrickingNameDuh 3 года назад
I was diagnosed with generalised anxiety and I swear to god, it's not cute, or trendy. It is fucking horrible
@Kevin_Theadore1
@Kevin_Theadore1 2 года назад
Yeah I was diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety this is hell on earth I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy I wouldn't wish this on the person who hurt me the most because nobody should experience this ITS A DISORDER NOT "QUIRKY"
@abbifleming1662
@abbifleming1662 3 года назад
normalize : yes! romanticize: absolutely not
@Myers-Girl
@Myers-Girl 4 года назад
I’m 17 and I‘m guilty of doing a lot of the things mentioned in this video when I was 13-15. Pretending that my depression was this beautiful, glamorous thing and imagining myself as Lana Del Rey or Marilyn Monroe became my coping mechanism. Whenever I was being beaten up or whatever I would kid myself that my bruises and tears made me more like these women. This was all encouraged and done by a lot of my friends as part of our goth sad boy/girl aesthetic. I cringe looking back at how I dealt with my issues then because all it was really doing was encouraging me not to get help. I was genuinely worried my friends wouldn’t like me anymore if I started to smile.
@denaerangel
@denaerangel 4 года назад
Same, actually. Pretending what I was actually feeling inside was no more than an "aesthetic" made me feel like I had the right to believe that depression and anxiety was cool. I still see it with Tweens today...
@monettehater3300
@monettehater3300 4 года назад
ELLIOT ROGER IS A HERO !!!
@pugster3913
@pugster3913 4 года назад
@@monettehater3300 um no? Serial killers aren't "heros" wtf
@halloweencrystal4247
@halloweencrystal4247 4 года назад
Monette Hater Elliot Rogers is not a hero. Ted Bundy is not a hero. Jeffrey Dahmer is not a hero. Stop loving on serial killers. They are not heros.
@sararosin7943
@sararosin7943 3 года назад
@Apocolypse Hope I'm exactly in that age right now and have a question. I don't know if you're the person who can answer it, but I'll ask anyway... I know that having depression is a horrible thing, even though I've luckily never had any problems of that sort. But I love certain book/movie characters who happen to have some problems of that kind or sad backstories and everything and I idolize these people. (I don't mean characters with extrem depression like in skins or the stuff mentioned, just the common "sad" teenage book character) I really love the characters and that's normal, I mean that's the goal of the Autor, but I'm afraid that I try to be like them too much kinda? I mean I think it's okay to try to be like them in the way to overcome all your problems and be "badass" but I'm scared I go to far and accidentally do the stuff mentioned. Since you apparently had a kinda similar problem (just way worse I know mine isn't really a problem but I'm just afraid something like that could happen) how do I get rid of it or how do I find the balance between the stuff I said? Sorry for the long text, I'm just confused If somebody else understands the struggle please tell me what to do
@angelteeth8471
@angelteeth8471 4 года назад
As someone who suffers from mental illness, it's not a cute character trait or fashion statement. Because of my mental illness, I can hardly do small things (like eating or just basic hygiene). I didn't sit there looking beautiful, I sat there as a mess wanting to end my own life. Having a character like Hannah Baker or clothes like "less depresso more espresso" is like having a slap to my face. It's horrible having people post about beautiful people and quotes while in reality it's a very messy thing that shouldn't be seen as adorable or amazing.
@puflem
@puflem 3 года назад
Right? I sit here with tangy hair and clothes that are way too big for me, looking like absolute trash and getting a feeling of rage when I look into the mirror. Depression is not beautiful. It's ugly and gross and destroys your life
@jabbercookie9773
@jabbercookie9773 3 года назад
Here's the other danger I don't see mentioned a lot: When people share romantic mental illness posts, others learn from it. I just had to cut off private communication with a recent friend because he could only communicate by talking about how sad he was or how much pain he was in no matter how much I told him I wanted to know more about him than that. Once, he literally went through a whole range of emotions like he was imitating a bipolar episode through text and he even used emojis to represent that. He's so impressionable and obviously not neurotypical, so I have no doubt he just thought that would be the same as expressing himself and his emotions. Making mental illness and sadness a trend confuses neurodivergent people who are just trying to fit in
@reiya2076
@reiya2076 3 года назад
The social media sometimes take Depression as a joke and make a meme about it to the fact that those who are actually depressed are now scared to open up and hid they're pain because they're scared of being taken as a joke and being judged
@yeolivman6987
@yeolivman6987 4 года назад
My problem with the suicide scene in 13 reasons why is that it went against absolutely everything experts say on how to portray suicide. Artistically it was beautiful and emotional but I do think it was done it that way mostly for shock value, especially since they changed the method since in the book she overdosed. (or at least to my knowledge it did I haven't read the book myself) I more so hate-watched the show cuz if I'm gonna criticize something I want to understand what I'm criticizing, But after that scene, I had to immediately turn it off and I haven't touched the show at all since. As someone who has struggled with self-injury and suicidal thoughts that scene was so incredibly triggering.
@whatthehellisthis
@whatthehellisthis 4 года назад
i read the book (but that was like two years before the show even aired) and from what i remember, she did use pills.
@KaishaLouise
@KaishaLouise 4 года назад
@Jacinda Gyllich I read the book like twice a bunch of years ago (don't judge me i was a teenager struggling to understand and accept her mental health and wanting to feel less alone which is lowkey still a lot of the case but there we go), she did definitely still die in the book from the od but iirc it might have taken her a couple of days. Bizarrely would have made even more sense in the show with her parents having a pharmacy but there we go. The route they ultimately went down was so wrong and triggering though i don't even know where to begin. That scene is the only thing ever to have triggered me like that at all. For people like me who struggle with self harm or suicidal thoughts it was frankly far too dangerous to show. Only kept watching and watched season 2 because my stupid gay ass had a massive crush on one of the actresses even though by then i knew better that it was not something i could safely watch really.
@Lee-ss8yj
@Lee-ss8yj 4 года назад
@Jacinda Gyllich No, I read the novel when it came out. She died. She never survived in the novel! Maybe you confuse it with some fanfictions, because I remember a few that had the concept of "what if she had survived". However, this was not the official story and I didn't find anything about Asher changing the storyline?
@Lee-ss8yj
@Lee-ss8yj 4 года назад
While it personally never triggered me, I HATE how they changed that because in the novel she overdosed and she EXPLICITLY states that she doesn't wanna die by cutting open her arms because she doesn't wanna do that to her parents. Like she has a whole monologue about the best method and says that slitting your wrists is the worst method!
@Lee-ss8yj
@Lee-ss8yj 4 года назад
@Jacinda Gyllich Okay I found an interview with him. It used to be the original idea of his, but he scrapped it. Asher wanted to show how serious suicide is and that sometimes you don't get a second chance in life. That's why he decided to have her die in the original version. However, he released a version after 10 years in which she survives because fans requested it. It's literally just fan-service, not the original version
@sylvie_on
@sylvie_on 4 года назад
one of my friends will start talking about how much she wants DID in the same room with my friends with trauma related mental illnesses. yup, shes a quirky "not like other girls" girl. she'll say "oh i want people that i can talk to all the time so i will never be alone" and over half of her characters have DID. she is going to therapy for anger issues and minor depression, but she is so insensitive towards my friends with PTSD and Borderline Personality Disorder. One of our friends mysteriously disappeared one day and it wasn't until later that we found out she was in a psych ward, and has been diagnosed with BPD, and my "quirky" friend asked *her best friend, the girl that had tiplined her for self-harming* if she had multiple personalities, and seemed a little too excited about it considering the girl she asked was *crying.*
@koolk1dde
@koolk1dde 4 года назад
Wtf, I don’t know how she sees that as ok
@KayKay-od4nm
@KayKay-od4nm 3 года назад
This is just advice on what you wrote. I don't know what it's really like for all of you in reality, so in the end it's for you to decide if you want to do this: You did mention she has some mental issues too and your group might be a support group for each other, however if she keeps dismissing your feelings and keeps talking like that she's not helping in any way. You have to change something for her to start reflecting on her own actions and words. Tell her straight that this isn't in any way OK or helpful, it makes you all even feel worse. It doesn't make you feel more normal or better but you feel hurt and misunderstood. If she doesn't want to accept this you will probably have to take a break from your friendship because 1) her words make you feel worse and worsens your mental state, and 2) she might also start considering what she said to you and your friends. She might be able to grow out of it and come back more mature than before. I believe it's important to communicate these things. She might think it's OK but it isn't. So you should tell her how you feel about her actions to improve your friendship, mental state and your growth. I wish you good luck and I hope everything will turn out better in the future 💗 Take your time but if it all just feels too wrong you should take action and tell her.
@holymoly9903
@holymoly9903 3 года назад
You should ask her if she wants the pain that comes with it. I dont have DID but i know a lot since i got intrested in it. She should maybe think about the fact that you cant get away from these alters. There are percecuters who can suddenly front and god knows what they will do. (Percecuters are alters who has stored a lot of trauma, this can cause them to hurt the body or possibly others so the abuser can't.) DiD is terrifying. You can live with it but it is very hard. This is coming from one who has only heard about the consequences, not lived with them.
@Marinameyers05
@Marinameyers05 3 года назад
I was hinting to my friends that I was in a depressive episode, they replied “yeah, all of us, especially in COVID, everyone is depressed” I was like... nooooo
@alexebert1506
@alexebert1506 3 года назад
yes apparently my obsessive intrusive thoughts and your depression just show up because lockdown and NOTHING ELSE AT ALL, stay strong comrade, don't think you and struggles are any less important or difficult because quote on quote :everybody's depressed"
@rozennrd4802
@rozennrd4802 3 года назад
I remember when I started to seek help for my burn out and anxiety (caused by my studies) and everyone was like "yeah we know, COVID is hard" and I was like "yeah but actually studying and pressure is harder" It's hard enough being listened to, I felt like no one knew what it was recovering from a burn out and starting to be back to work and having to resist pressure.
@Marinameyers05
@Marinameyers05 3 года назад
@@alexebert1506 Thank you!! Stay strong too. This made my day!!
@Marinameyers05
@Marinameyers05 3 года назад
@@rozennrd4802 I hope it gets better
@strawberryykatie
@strawberryykatie 3 года назад
I hate when people use “I’m so depressed xd” when something happens, as a “joke”. I have been struggling to understand my feelings, because I think I may have depression. (Not diagnosed, and not self diagnosing, I *think* I may have it.) and them saying that makes me even more unsure and also makes me feel like I’m overreacting.
@virtualmorgue
@virtualmorgue 2 года назад
Same bruv
@pgakt
@pgakt 4 года назад
God my mental illness makes me a complete mess and disgusting to look at really often, it's not an aesthetic jeez Having people treat you like you're a wild animal when you're experiencing psychosis and terrified isn't "I'll never be alone, I have the voices in my head"
@dude2930
@dude2930 3 года назад
what i like about euphoria is that it doesn't romanticize depression and suicide the way 13 reasons why (for example) does
@Bribri111
@Bribri111 3 года назад
I have ADHD and it's not just hyperactive it's not being able to focus not being able sit still for long periods of times it's having to come back after someone told you something and saying "what did you say do" it's not fun. I have ADHD and depression it's not fun I can sleep at night because my ADHD is having my mind going fast instead of slowing down then my depression is making me think all these terrible thoughts because I can't sleep I stay sad all the time. It sucks having to take meds every day.
@LolaPolly100
@LolaPolly100 3 года назад
you can be depressed. depression and being depressed are two totally different things!! it’s hard sometimes when a friend says “i think i have depression” because something is going on, but you have to remember they may be genuinely concerned they have it because of how society portrays mental illness. it’s easy to get really upset and mad but sometimes you just have to look at where the other person is coming from; there’s usually no malicious intent. have a convo with your loved ones!! it’s okay to tell people how you feel!!! much love ❤️
@susencan2020
@susencan2020 4 года назад
I was 15 when I started chanting, “Emptiness is pure, starving is the cure” because I saw it on tumblr and thought it would be a “cool” way to lose some weight. Please don’t go into that stuff thinking that you are stronger than the ones you see on the internet, that you can somehow “control” it. 0/10 would not recommend. Definitely not worth it.
@a2point083
@a2point083 3 года назад
Yea i feel like most ppl who romanticize eds probably have one lmao cuz they’re so deep in its ok to them
@user-ld6yj9er3c
@user-ld6yj9er3c 3 года назад
At 14, while watching Skins I thought that being "damaged" is edgy & cool and this type of personality somehow brings you closer to the romanticized adventurous portrayal of youth. Cut to me at 21 suddenly having a severe depressive episode while all of my friends are with me on the beach having a blast, while I am thinking about death with crippling tightness in my chest. And I can't connect with anyone, and I can't have as much fun as they do. So much for the edginess of mental issues. Mental Illness does not make you cool, it does not score you a cool boyfriend or cool friends. It does, in fact, stop you from enjoying cool things.
@user-ot7ue2yb2e
@user-ot7ue2yb2e 3 года назад
i also hate the casual jokes where people say “i want to die” at the slightest inconvenience. it was the punchline of 90% of the jokes on twitter at one point. at one point of my life that was objectively true, but it became a habit to flippantly throw around suicidal language that once i had treatment and was no longer suicidal i realized i was still saying “i want to die” in casual conversation when i meant “that’s an inconvenience.” and i was internalizing those words and feeling more miserable/catastrophizing everything. i had to actively change that habit because those kinds of jokes actually just perpetuated my misery. also because they’re jokes, people don’t realize that if they actually want to die or feel hopeless at any minor inconvenience, that’s a sign that they really really need help, and it’s not just a quirky teen phase.
@VioletA400
@VioletA400 3 года назад
I remember in high school there were so many people who constantly joked about how they were going to kill themselves or about how they are depressed or have anxiety. It was really upsetting for me to sit there and listen to those jokes and those words being thrown around because everyone glamorized it and saw it as trendy. Especially because I was struggling everyday.
@amandasuomi773
@amandasuomi773 4 года назад
Yep. I'd add romanticizing horrible personality disorders like narcissism (Fifty shades of Grey) and sociopathy (the Joker*) that teenagers for some reasons find cool. *Well, I'm not sure it glamourises the issue, but certainly justifies it in a way that I found way too disturbing. You could almost forget all his murders.
@Hmanas14
@Hmanas14 4 года назад
no they dont do that anymore now where demons
@fairyjuggalo8368
@fairyjuggalo8368 4 года назад
Tbh i have an addiction to unhealthy relationship but i would never wanna force my unhealthy behaviors to anyone! Its creepy, disturbing, and really disgusting.
@bambibrookes9701
@bambibrookes9701 4 года назад
I feel like hollywood tries to sexualize and romanticize toxic and abusive relationships
@annaan2873
@annaan2873 4 года назад
@@bambibrookes9701 it does, they do it for the drama that comes with it
@QJ89
@QJ89 4 года назад
Harley Quinn is a Case in Point. Yes, she's popular, but she's also a violent manic with some co-dependency issues.
@claranoggle
@claranoggle 4 года назад
This can also really backfire on people who don't have mental health problems by making them feel like their problems arent worth enough to be upset about.
@user-ot7ue2yb2e
@user-ot7ue2yb2e 3 года назад
my least favorite glamorization of mental health issues was the big trend in the 2000’s and 2010’s where young cute men would sing songs about how they love girls who are sad and insecure. from “i kissed the scars on her skin i still think you’re beautiful” to one direction’s what makes you beautiful and little things. and the OG, “she looks so sad in photographs, i absolutely love it when she smiles” because being depressed makes you attractive. like i get the message that you don’t need to be perfect to be loved but the songs truly were just preying on young girls’ insecurities and honestly setting them up to be groomed into toxic relationships.
@hinata167
@hinata167 2 года назад
A lot of Wattpad stories weirdly romanticize abusive relationships.
@brenna3590
@brenna3590 4 года назад
I remember being twelve years old when "13 Reasons Why" came out as did all of my friend group. A couple of my freinds wrote their own letters to the rest of us outlining "reasons" or ways we had wronged them. Looking back I completely agree with the idea that the show made such issues such as Hannah dealt with into a trend.
@pigeoncat3786
@pigeoncat3786 4 года назад
Yikes
@bbbbbb1864
@bbbbbb1864 4 года назад
I was 11 and I remember people were actually saying what she did was a good idea and I was like ummmmmm
@mariamnasser8807
@mariamnasser8807 3 года назад
Bbb Bbb welp, you may be really young but your way smarter than most dumb people. Good job smart kid! 👍
@VegemiteQueen1
@VegemiteQueen1 4 года назад
I have to shower today AND go to the shops and that is HARD for me. I'd much rather crawl back into bed and stay there. Thanks for keeping things real, Rachel.
@zeththorn9280
@zeththorn9280 3 года назад
Must be the worst cringe I've ever had when people find pain and struggles cute.
@rumaisyahqa
@rumaisyahqa 2 года назад
Well i tend to be a nihilist
@Rash_cookie
@Rash_cookie 3 года назад
Even a year later this still has so much significance. I appreciate this message so much bc the experience with mental health I have, isn’t rainbows!
@kacchan5623
@kacchan5623 4 года назад
i legit do naawwwwwwtttttt get why people find depression so alluring. ive struggled w that shii since middle school (i just graduated hs) and its not cute or fun. i self harmed so much that my legs and arms look like a tic tac toe board (yes you can laugh). ive nearly been hospitalized 3x, i was dirty and stinky from days without showering, i gained a lot of weight cause one of my main coping mechanisms was binge eating, and there were times i didnt get out of bed for several days at a time. im inna way better place now but seriously the darkest time of my life should not be seen as aesthetic or entertainment purposes
@tishapatatoes9751
@tishapatatoes9751 3 года назад
People really seem to ignore the fzct in can get so bad you Just piss in your bed
@peppermint5117
@peppermint5117 3 года назад
man
@RAC00NFANGIRL
@RAC00NFANGIRL 3 года назад
Amen!!
@alexp2932
@alexp2932 3 года назад
One of my coping mechanisms was making myself dizzy until I nearly threw up.
@ammuri8468
@ammuri8468 3 года назад
When you just wrote a whole comment but just erased it cause 'what are they going to think?' It's not funny, it's serious, ugly and scary. And people have to stop with this things.
@ravenrose5712
@ravenrose5712 3 года назад
I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope you're doing okay. You can talk whenever you're ready, or never at all if that's okay with you. Please go look at some pictures of small furry animals for me.
@uglyugly8986
@uglyugly8986 2 года назад
Oh my God, this is literally me! I relate to this so much!
@ramsalchan7141
@ramsalchan7141 3 года назад
People with fake depression who say they have it for attention make it REALLY obvious or tell it to everyone they have “depression” and are like “I listen to (insert singer here) !! It’s just so sad I can relate!!” And people with actual depression act like nothing is happening, act almost the same, it, may just be really feel like it’s hard to talk to people, to give their opinion or even just try to avoid anything, or feel less than everyone, but don’t talk about it and try not to make it obvious Personally I think that’s the difference. :D
@lixssub-mart222
@lixssub-mart222 3 года назад
The thing that really sucks is that I’d love to see something in the media like a show or movie inform the audience about mental disorders but no one ever does that and it pisses me off
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