No srsly! I remember when that shit came out it was right after I had a major surgery where they overdosed me on opioids and I apparently stopped breathing and shit and after seeing this I was convinced I was actually dead☠️ like this HAD to be hell. It‘s still shocking to me that this was not all just a weird hallucination i had ☠️
Thinking of him knowing all the secrets AND being matchmaker kinda gives the vibe of a funny yet sick game of your therapist setting you up with another client of theirs.
How I felt during the Matty Healy month-long rebound Phase 1: Who's Matty Healy anyway? Phase 2: EW! Phase 3: Madness Mantra- "It's just a rebound. It's just a rebound." Phase 4: THEY BROKE UP! *pops champagne like Barney and Robin in How I Met Your Mother*
What mental illness causes someone to be this invested in the relationship of two random celebrities? Seek help, although I bet you won’t and will just get defensive and double down and vent to your ten cars instead.
Lmao you asking “was it ever really that serious” and then Tortured Poets Department gets dropped being completely about Matty Healey. She really was down bad for him 🤣🤣🤣
“Maybe she was just tired of sitting at home watching him play Chopsticks on the piano and pretending to clap and cheer for him…” no one does insults quite like you. I literally choked on my flavored beverage.
Zach... please get some sleep before ttpd. You have been making videos non stop this year. I live the nosleepologist, but you are becoming the insomniologist. Lol. Can't wait for your reaction video this weekend
The MOST incriminating part of this entire arc was her performing at the 1975 show. There would be no reason to do that if she wasn't already with or interested in Matty.
I have noticed friends who get out of long relationships go hard very fast with the next guy - "love" is exchanged after like a week, they're handing out keys, making all their friends meet this dude... Then before I've even learned their last name, *poof* never seen again. It's like all that big relationship stuff was a reflex they had to un-learn. The oxytocin from finally getting laid againjust rips through their brain and scrambles it temporarily. Taylor just did that on stage.
I can't imagine doing anything remotely like this after my past long term relationships 😅 I do see this sometimes but I feel like only certain people are even capable of this behaviour. It's even more insane that Taylor of all people in her position openly acted like this too 😅 BUT of course I still ily Taylor and we'll never know the whole situation in detail anyway
The Matty Healy moment was so funny. I couldn’t believe how up in arms people were. Longtime fans literally from the start unstanned her. I love her and Travis, but there was something about the chaos in the fandom that was endlessly entertaining to me. 😂
I’ve been a fan since 2006. When I heard her and Matty where dating I was like meh. It won’t last. But yeah it was entertaining people were freaking out. It’s like chill they aren’t end game lol. She wanted a fling I think. IMO.
She got under Matty to get over Joe and honestly she could've done worse. Some of the weird accusations thrown at Matty (people calling him a Nazi was truly bizarre as hell) just reeked of people grasping at straws to use the affair as just another excuse to hate her.
I know. I thought Matty wasn’t that attractive but atm I really didn’t care. I was like hey girl go get you some! And I don’t care for Travis but I’m like hey girl whatever makes you happy and he’s not being a turd.
@@annaphallactic They were lies! Some Clipped , edited n news articles from a news source taking what they thought was an I gotcha moment about the porn site from a podcast channel the newspaper was just waiting to get kicked off you tube,. That Matty … he was never on that site! EVER!! The Nazi deal same BS! Taking. something he did and completely twisted it around. So thanks to one of Matty’s Jewish fans who got frustrated hearing people repeat propaganda… Wrong hand for a Hitler Salute! When he was doing that and saying thank you , he was calling out Kayne West for his antisemitic words but also throwing in the Thank You gif when West was sitting in Trumps lap for a period of time and on a video you see either West or Trump saying THANK YOU to the other! Last but not least Spice deal…. go listen … it’s mug him speaking . He never ever said a word about Ice Spice It’s not him talking !! They recanted laugh and joking around when the huggers started talking about Ice Spice . So for those who say he was laughing at what they were saying, that’s a really big assumption!!! But people still roll with all the lies because then they would have to admit they are still believing everything they hear from the media even after the last decade they haven’t learned they’re lesson yo research befits you believe !!! Is he controversial.. Yes .. he’d not a government person he feels the hard the cause gif all the division and hate in his country along with his media. He’s 100% correct! Has he had his issues and find some stupid things publicly at his concerts … yes!!! And so…. so what!!!! There are plenty of artist who show their axx during their careers here and there. Who cares!!! You’re a fan for their music. Depending on how much of a fan you are of their music, and their artistry shows at times like these when that fan thinks they have the right to judge them on their personal life, via cheesy media, when it’s non of the fans business anyway!!! Those aren’t fans… they are delusional self entitled stalkers at that point. News flash … THEY DON’T KNOW THEM!!! LOL!! Marty’s songs are awesome!!! His songs reveal he’s nothing like what people ran with from a twisted news platform!!!
@@AndromanKaya I need to go back to 1989 and onward. I thought it was about Harry and fortnight mv she's referenced The 1975 last album and included Style images. Same with Reputation, there is a verse in Peter linked to Dancing with our Hands tied and Cardigan. She is in the 75 fandom herself.
Taylor is a people pleaser, I wish you would a video about this one day. Her relationship with fans and caving in to their demands ( like more Lana on snow on the beach) and how that effects her and feeds it to the fans desire. Like Kpop fans demanded their favs do something and punishing them if they do not. Love your videos and cannot wait for your reaction to TTPOD.
He has made this point in quite a few of his videos. That from childhood her need to be accepted is at the core of her being. It’s why she creates and will never stop. It’s a blessing and a curse in a way. I believe her romantic relationships have in one way or another been a rebellion against this need to be accepted. At least until Travis.
@@ChristopherMarshburntbh I just think the validation from dating them was just more important than what anyone thought of her lol. That's why I believe she didn't just like matty. She jst dated him to make joe jealous and show him that she can still pull men. Speaking from experience as i had also done the same lol. If she did she'd have stuck by him like the way she has with travis despite all the backlash they both face from being with each other. I kinda love how she's absorbing his unbothered energy lol. You want to be mad at him for chugging a beer on his own podcast, well I'm just going to wear his merch and make more money for him😂😂
@@ChristopherMarshburnand the baseball comment is just a hyperbolic example, if she can talk about wanting to kill someone’s girlfriend, I can be dramatic too
This album is, like, 90% Matty coded. And he knew it would be - remember his rant? “Do not come for me. Trust me. You know who I’m talking to. Honestly, you know who you are. I’m as mental as I seem. I have the receipts. Don’t f**k with me. Trust me.” Messiness ahead.
@@pabloescobarschanclas at his show in february this year. I think it was glasgow n1 or n2. he must've known she's gonna come for his neck because he said it at one of the first shows *after* the grammys when she announced the ttpd album. There's a clip circling on tiktok, you can see he's pissed off 😅😅
@@pabloescobarschanclas yeah, 💯. There's no way it was ended amicably 💀💀 and even if it was, gloves are off now. Taylor rang the bell first with ttpd and it's bound to snowball out of control when matty releases a response but i hope that swifties won't send death threats to the band or matty again. 😔
I'm not so sure that was directly specifically at Taylor. I would imagine she let him hear all of it before it was released, through Jack if not directly. I think it was at Swifties who might re-emerge when he'd gotten rid of them by leaving her.
TTPD HAS LEAKED. I've said it a million times but I do NOT engage with leaks or spoilers, and if you spoil anything from me you will be instantly blocked on all platforms no exceptions and kept on my blacklist. Dishonor on you and your family.
all i can say is you’re going to be very GAGGED. (please don’t block me anything taylor puts out would gag you) also i hope you don’t get spoiled. stay off socials
She was in a really avoidant, distanced relationship with Joe. She wanted him BAD and finally saw her answers in not Joe, but in Matty. She projected twin flames. Both musicians, etc etc. Feeling stuffed away, she was ready to get in touch with her darker side that wasn't raised in upper middle class USA. She wanted down the rabbit hole Healy offered. But he snatched it away. It's not her path and it closed up before she got a chance to balance her new feelings into reality. That about did her in on top of the Joe stuff. And her new tour that propelled her to super-duper stardom attention during it all. I think she struggles to feel as intense with the right guy if it's Travis than with the euphoric high of matty and her latent longings and searching for that elusive happiness. Glitch and all songs about lusty love, the highs... on midnight are about Healy. I sure hope she got good therapy after that whiplash of hers... What a midlife crisis!!!! I love how much she feels. She describes situations I've also felt from my life. The excruciating pain of a quick, new love snatched away while you were just getting excited to shift. Oh lordy!!!!
Look, admittedly I am one of the dreaded newer Swifties, but I vividly remember watching this whole thing from the sidelines and just being baffled at how serious everyone was about it. I was just like, "She JUST got out of a longterm relationships, of course she wants to do a rockstar about it for a little bit" It was truly wild to witness, like it just never seemed *that* serious to me lmao.
Things to add to this!!! - Taylor asked Matty and 1975 to open for the 1989 tour and he said no - Taylor sang a 1975 song at the show, the City, which is the song he sang to her when she came to his show and only stared at her - about you was on her tour pre-show setlist and Question was on his
The version that Matty might’ve been referring to is Slut! Allegedly, Slut was supposed to be a collab between The 1975 and Taylor, and I believe some alternative lyrics (Matty’s part) leaked on the internet. So, mayhaps that what he was referring to…
Okay but that was proven to be fake. It was clearly something that a person photoshopped and printed. It didn't even match the continuity of the 1989 TV artwork.
I love how you’re the only swift channel that says it how it is without sugarcoating stuff just because you love her but will call her out when needed to 😂
She finally crawled out of the heirloom turkey's torture dungeon and rebounded hard with the most sketchy guy possible. I think Ratty was all about getting revenge on Joe, IMO. The turkey probably didn't like him, and she knew it would piss him off. The fact that Ratty and Taylor recorded a song together for Midnights that didn't make the cut may have been because of Joe. Maybe he was jealous.
Did your head explode the second you realized that Taylor Swift was secretly in love and fantasizing about Matty Healy the entire Joe Alwyn relationship? Think about that
it seems like she felt the need to stick by joe bc he saved her from the trenches of 2016.. like the only thanks she could offer was being in a relationship with him
As much as I want to refuse to believe cardigan is ACTUALLY about him, there’s something about the “when I felt like I was an old cardigan under someone’s bed, you put me on and said I was your favorite” lyric that won’t leave my mind now 💀
ZACH YOU CAME AT SUCH A GREAT TIME LMAO I WAS FEELING SO DOWN RN FOR NO REASON AT ALL AND I JUST GOT THIS NOTIF THANK YOU SO MUCH NOW I HAVE SMTH TO DISTRACT MYSELF BY😭💛
21:03 "get away from her" , taylor called this out in "but daddy i love him". and whole ttpd being about matty instead of just three songs is so funny now.
literally the song was about everyone including fans dissing ratty healy ..and taylor in the eras tour saying she had never been happier blah blah blah literally telling us to shut up.. lol!!!! I cannot believe a rebound for only a couple months deserves so many songs in an album we have been longing for...thought that it was all about her precious London Boy Joe smh
@@lmao-uo4sv it's wasn't just a rebound, it's a situationship since 2014 fling.... & She's saying she knows who's to call when she's fresh out the Slammer.... Like girl what- Stay single for while yk
@@lmao-uo4sv taylor has been writing songs about short lived (few months long) romances since debut and they were always passionate and emotional. Now that i think of it I guess she can't write songs about her break up of long romances (calvin, joe), may be she is not inspired when these long term romance end.
@@varsharawat9188 yea ur right. Sometimes the relationship is short for a reason - chaotic, crazy, fascinating sentiments rush like a roller coaster. But still i don't like ratty healy
@@Magentamagnet then Joe has done nothing that wrong!! From the lyrics I only see him being depressed but honestly it's just his personality and they had a good time and everything has run to its course that's all
i hate to say this, but I’m actually grateful for the Matty Healy era. it helped her to get over joever, and i hope that’s why her relationship with Travis is actually healthy and happy. Travis wasn’t the first one after turkey to show up for her (remember Matty flying across the globe to Nashville). so this way it’s not like she pulled a complete 180 with Travis, Matty served as a mediator (i’m sorry i know). i just want her to be happy and have a healthy love and if that means we had to go through the may of 2023, then let it be it
Yep. After what seemed like a gaslit heavy relationship, one really just needs any warm body to bring you back to your reality. And then it's time to go...
Matty will definitely be a central theme in her new album. She chose the TRUMAN BLACK eagle brewery in London as one of the places for her spotify TTPD posters. If that's not a hint I don't know what is.
I must have amnesia because i had already forgotten everything that went down during Taylor`s brief Ratty Healy interlude lol. Thanks for your flawless job king Zach 👑
I like this era a lot because by rebounding with someone so wild and different Taylor is agreeing with us that Joe, is indeed, a *boring* heirloom Turkey...
@@TheLizard199 Calvin did get songs, later, and the biggest diss was towards Tom, who only got one, where she admitted she was just drinking when she was with him, and it was no Love Story. Poor guy got used.
Idk really what's happening in Taylor's mind. But I remember in one of her interviews, she said she won't write a break-up song about someone when she's not sure they're over. Maybe one of the reasons that we don't have many of Joe's songs is because she hasn't moved on yet. Or maybe she still has feelings for him and respects his private life.
The Ratty Healy interlude was such a silly time. All I could do was laugh. Taylor needed a rebound after clawing her way out of the heirloom turkey's basement.
Taylor has the issue that she cares to much about public view of her. When she was younger it was that she was always so broken-hearted and 'playing the victim' so she started to jump into new relationships quickly after a break up like Poor Tom Hiddleston or Ratty Healy to show everyone how very over it and fine she is after her 2 most important long term relationships ended. Both of those rebounds she was flaunting them- jetting around the world or jumbotron love annaucemtns 🙄 The lady doth protest too much, methinks! 😂
Zach, i love your work. You are creative, knowledgeable and articulate yet you have some savage moments that I have come to expect from the Swiftologist.
20:59 Your friend said "Get away from her" and Taylor put "Stay away from her" in quotes as what the "sabateurs" said while protesting too much in "But Daddy I love Him" 😮
Even though it would be so much easier to just move on and completely forget about Ratty Healy interlude i need some answers to my questions before i do that. I really need at least 1 song on TTPD to tell us what was going on. Ratty was always a mysterious character in Taylor lore so i need her to reveal a bit of this mystery before i can finally move on.
the ratty healy phase makes sense when youve been there before, it's the definition of happy frre confused and lonely at the same time lmao it's needed in life, sucks yet needed, i sat there like lucilee bluth and was like "good for her!" hahahahaa
As a 34 year old therapist, who has been a fan of Taylor’s music since I was 16, my thoughts - from her songs and some things she said - are that she and joe probably broke up before the actual final break up at least once before, or at least took a break some time between end of 2021 and beginning 2022. I think this break period inspired songs like Hits Different (where she says “cursed the space that I needed”) and Maroon (“I wake with your memory over me”). Labyrinth also gives some evidence to this point (it starts with her feeling like she’ll never get over him, and then saying she’s falling in love again and that “he turned the plane around”). I would even go as far as saying that this periord was probably when she was actively mourning that relationship . They got back together clearly, but when things didn’t get better, I think at that point she had done all the suffering, mourning, and heart-breaking needed, and was ready to move on. I feel like Midnights really is an album about staying up at night thinking and ruminating (what she does best - and relatable) during that time: thinking about her relationship, how it was in the beginning stages (lavender haze, sweet nothing, snow on the beach), how it was falling apart (the Great War, you’re losing me, Bejeweled), how she felt during that break they took (Maroon, Labyrinth, Hits Different, YOYOK), a bit of melancholia which is vey characteristic of her and one of her best attributes imo (Midnight Rain, Maroon, etc), and thinking about herself during all of that (Anti Hero, Dear Reader).
I also think that when the definitive break up finally happened (around February maybe) they probably ended on good terms (hence him liking her post), and then things started to get rocky after that maybe regarding how to deal with the break up publicly. That’s just speculation but it wouldn’t be unusual for a couple to “end on good terms” and then things start going south after that.
taylor did bring back invisible string for one night only!! she performed it on nashville night 1 (or 2?) after she learned that the city of nashville dedicated a bench in centennial park to her. after that one show she immediately changed it back to The One for the rest of the nashville shows.
If we only knew what was coming… Matty Heally Album!! 😅 Swifties are so not ready for it and I’m living for it!! I find it absolutely hilarious! 😂 Taylor said „F** You, bitches!!“ I can’t wait to hear your take on it!
Simultaneously happy that Matty Heal-or is over, and hopeful that the music she made with him during those studio sessions are going to see the light of day with Matty’s production and instrumentals.
Edit: the show I saw was ON Matty Healy's birthday 😅😅 - I saw the 1975 live in april 2023 and then mere week after the left Australia, the Taylor Swift x Matty Healy news broke and my mind was blown. I immediately thought 'and when i meet the band' was referring to the 1975 when I heard Bejewelled but I couldn't prove it of course. I still think their fling made sense, they are both messy artists. I always had a feeling their paths had met multiple times in background and they had def had flirty fun when they were all recording their respective albums. There is always the chance it was the weirdest marketing campaign ever for their respective world tours at the time. I like to think they are just good friends tbh sooo looking forward to the album drop this weekend
This video is so thorough and satisfying. To answer your question…? My favorite part of the drama was when Taylor more or less confirmed that question…? was about him because I so totally knew it was pretty much right after the rumors that they were dating were starting to look convincing.
