We Need To Talk About NASCAR on FOX… Again 

everything joke most things but most important commentating camera work and visuals

I think They should Improve Their Commentators and Camera Work In My Opinion.

Bring back Digger.

Less ads

For cup things got better but no where else

Thats not really the camera operators faults, the directors and producers tell them what they want before the race.

@@Aventador3088 that doesn’t negate the criticism. The cameramen don’t need to take it personal if that’s the case. But it needs to be fixed and when they do they should be proud they got it right and bettered the sport. It gets frustrating when our constructive criticism to a declining company doesn’t get resolved and just like any relationship it gets fractured years of denying constructive criticism just becomes resentment.

Get rid of Bowyer

@@tonybanke3560 he tries way to hard to be goofy and wild

​@@jbuckthemanMeanwhile he's monotone and boring the other 90%...

@@gripen777 bowyer is?

I disagree, Harvick is GREAT in the booth. I absolutely love him and Mike Joy….however Bowyer…..to me, he’s like Jeff Gordon but worse.

Larry isn't really willing to travel anymore

Pull those belts tight one more time!!

@@IvyLeather13 Love that line.

Too bad Larry doesn't want to... GenZ mindset at its finest.

They cut matt and Alan cavana because of "covid " but then hired Josh Sims not even a year later

It's a shame that apart from a brief run with the SRX on both CBS & ESPN, Yocum has yet to find regular work since he got let go by Fox. Hopefully the addition of both Prime Video & TNT will allow him to return.

Yocum has actually been doing reporting for IMSA on NBC. Not sure if he does more but that's all I see from him

@@2ndamendmentsupportingrepu706yeah because it was way cheaper to hire him

And the announcers blamed Larson for the caution…at least Bubba fessed up on camera

​@brucewatkinson9592 but he didn't wreck Larson It was just an incident. Tends to happen when you check up right in front of a car from getting loose on corner exit

Gimmie back the Hollywood Hotel!

They won't do that with the advertisements in Victory Lane. With the front-stretch interview, the background is gleefully free of ads.

Sounds good to me 👍

Harvick and Mike joy are good tho

@@jbucktheman A 4 man booth could work if done correctly

@@cito1101 NBC booth does that and it can be too crowded at times

What's wrong with the kids in the crowd? It's cool for them to know their getting a quick a show on TV. I know if I was a kid and got shown on TV and saw it on the broadcast later I would be thrilled lol

Yeah larry said in interviews he doesn’t want to do full time

That’s not gonna happen anytime soon

Larson Is On The Outsi- oh he got turned -Clint Boyer, 2023 Daytona 500

@@BraydenBunch58 what’s the middle

I Was Stupid :P

But Yeah, Clint’s Pretty Bad

They'll show telemetry during any other time of the race but with that restart, they were just like "well it does look like he jumped early...." and left it at that

​@clangston3 they "left it at that" because NASCAR officials said he didn't jump the start. It amazes me to no end how folks that run no-budget internet forums and couch-officials like yourself think they can run an extremely complex process like covering a live sport better than the people actually doing it. I think people like yall just like complaining and I for one am tired of this channel and the constant negative Nancy's that apparently make up his core audience. If one makes focusing on what's wrong in anything, it shouldn't surprise them that their overall experience ends up being negative no matter what. There's literally no pleasing people like that...smfh

@Saldivinorum “And as I looked at it yesterday, multiple times, there’s no doubt he rolled early” Elton Sawyer. NASCAR didn't say Denny did nothing wrong. They just chose not to enforce a rule.

@clangston3 re-watch the live broadcast. I believe it was Carl that said something to the effect that "NASCAR has ruled it not a jump, so we will move on with this discussion." Hindsight is no argument, I'm going off the live broadcast which reflects the official results. Nice try, but moot.

Only the first 5 words were needed

That doesn't make sense. Worse ratings mean more ads? So if ratings are really bad, fix it by doing ads for 70% of the broadcast? That's not how broadcasting works, it's just ignorant cynicism that plays on people's negativity, like most upvoted comments on the internet.

@@lightfeather9953 uh... problem is, dude is correct. they are going to force more ads even with ratings down. Just like YT has been doing, they force more ads which causes more people to ad block (if you ain't blocking ads you should be. get ublock origin) which causes YT to double down with more ads which causes more ad blocking which causes more ads. network TV is the same, less people watch the more ads to make up for the loss. (reason more ads on tv networks is less viewers = less ad money so to make it up they push more ads to make the same amount they was before the drop.

@@Dratchev241 It honestly feels like this problem would be 70% solved if the advertisers would just make better ads. I believe any of pannoni or 80sCommercialVault's uploads would make great starting points, as would the TNN and ESPN NASCAR broadcasts here on RU-vid with the original ads kept in. If the ads we see every weekend were more like these older ads, I think maybe people wouldn't have so much urgency to skip them and perhaps even actually want to watch them.

@@kpegc quite frank, we are just sick of ads period. who the fuck wants to watch a 60min show that has 30min of ads? nobody. who wants to watch a race where every 5 laps they go for 10mins of ads? nobody.

It's also annoying to add to the "Audio" part. They do someone's onboard during full speed replays. Don't matter what camera they used, even from the helicopter/blimp. No vroom-vroom, tires screeching, etc. when they used a "wall cam".

Zooming in on one car of the pack, then blocking everything in front of that car with the scoring ticker. No reason that can't be a top scroller like it used to be. Cutting away from action to show the leader who has checked into a different zip code Saying dumb things like they did this week like claiming that cars that short pitted "wouldn't have to wait as long for fuel.". Listen, neither the crew chiefs nor the fans are stupid. If there's 50 laps to go, and I can go 40 laps on a tank of fuel, that means I'm going to need an additional 10 laps worth of fuel to make it to the end of the race. From there it doesn't matter if I put with 40 to go, 10 to go, or anywhere in between, I still need the same amount of fuel to get to the finish. If that's roughly 4 gallons, then thats going to be like 4 seconds worth of fuel no matter how you slice it. It's a stupid talking point trying to make a mundane pit stop sound like strategic genius.

Yeah I don't know why not one of the networks has hired Ralph Sheheen yet he's literally working at local short tracks at the moment and literally has history in covering NASCAR races. Hopefully he's gonna be back on TNT but I don't know really.

NBC has it's own extremely glaring issues.

@@crystaljon true but no one speaks of them

​@@crystaljon Even so, They're still better

Not even close

You won't be saying that when NBC takes over this summer.

Dale JR did that in the NBC booth we are gonna miss that this year.

Love listening to Jeff Striegle on MRN

Grew up with MRN/PRN since 1978 and actually have listened to more races on the radio than on tv. Those fellas know how to call a race 👍🏻

@@bigferd4534 Absolutely. I do prefer MRN to PRN, personally, but both do a very good job.

no. Rick Allen sucks

@@andrewtulip7409 well at least it least it be better than what Fox is doing now.

Yes Kurt Busch had a lot of interesting stuff to say an explains things really well it's amazing. He would work well with Harvick too.

Agreed. I’ve been saying for a while that a network should hire him.

Remember the Brandon Brown incident? They're scared of something like that happening again

Why? They interview the winner right after the race. You people are so pathetic with the nonstop complaints

@@user-wm7fx8xb4x I like how the only time you've ever commented on your account is to get mad at me lmao

@lapislazuli4288 I like how you are now complaining about my comment which was responding to the original post by the way, not you.

@@user-wm7fx8xb4x oh boy here we go. I love a RU-vid comment section argument. I have nothing better to do so bring it on pal. Give me your best shot

100%

Would love to see the manufacturers on the leaderboard. The world feed only shows the gap to the leader for the entire race.

Heard they'll get fox next year

Literally everything fox does in a nutshell. Their NFL coverage isnt good, their MLB coverage isnt good, theyve long stopped being a serious source for any financial or political coverage. Not saying cable in general is great, its all painful, but fox is certainly part of the reason why.

I Don't Think That's Not Gonna Happen.

Maybe tbs? Or...

@@lionelnextelstudios0.282 ...TNT.

I do know the Xfinity Series is gonna be on the CW in 2025. 266 days left till 2025.

Such a bitchy fanbase

no they aint

Compared to when you had guest stars (former drivers) in the booth with Mike and Clint it has improved with Kevin but there are still elements like the camera work and graphics that still needs to be fixed for example.

That's how short tracks usually feel. Especially bridty

Yep, if you want the level of $ and exposure that comes with being on national TV you will have to have ads, nascars low iq fanbase needs to learn this

Or just bring back the SPEED Channel in its entirety. I think their biggest missteps were the reality shows and the overabundance of NASCAR talk shows, but I think they did everything else right. I think 2 of said NASCAR shows done really well (Race Hub and some sort of Inside Cup roundtable show revival) would be just the right amount of extra NASCAR coverage that doesn't feel overabundant. The SPEED Channel did a fantastic job of making the entire world of motorsports feel like a grand event that embodied the pinnacle of competition and visual spectacle, and covered it with a high degree of professionalism balanced with a lighthearted feel in a way that I don't think anyone else has been able to replicate. BTW, bringing back SPEED Center and Wind Tunnel (maybe with David Land as Dave Despain's successor?) wouldn't hurt, either. I believe the market has been begging for some sort of a SportsCenter like show dedicated to auto racing for over a decade now.

You want to go from always seeing the top 10 AND 10 other positions... To seeing 3 at a time???????? BUHAHAHAHAHAHA "Back in my day" 😂🤦‍♂️🤡

@@tankeater I want to go back to seeing more than the top 5 yeah lol. I want to have 95% of my screen to watch the race instead of 75% and a big block in front of the car on camera. I want to actually see if the guy that pitted 3 laps ago is back on track or in the garage now. Sidebar ticker rarely makes it past the top 20.

@@limprooster3253 it's top 10 all the time AND never top 5 with a ticker, because a ticker doesn't fit 5 positions. 😂🤦‍♂️ 5% to 25%? Are you sure about that? It goes across the entire top of your screen. If your TV is 30" wide, that ticker is 1.5 inches.... LMFFFAAAOOO drama queen It goes through the entire field, in the same time. Just gives you more time to catch that driver. Not having to stare at the ticker, because that driver is only on the screen for 5 seconds. Cool story, you must like fiction... Because that's all you said, was uh bunch of false narratives that you pulled from your head.

@@tankeater You're not a very good troll. And I know that's what you're trying to do because you're woefully incorrect on literally everything. You're just trying to get a rise out of me. 1. It's not top 10 at all times. Any time FOX puts up a graphic, the ticker only shows the top 5 and the graphic is placed below that. Try following a driver who isn't running in the top 10. Keep a mental note of how many times you find yourself thinking "dang it, show the next 10 cars" 2. It's not like I just got out the tape measure to determine how much of the screen the bar is actually using. It's probably closer to 15% if the pedantic tickles your fancy. But regardless, my point remains that that space is taken up in a very important part of the screen. Anything happening in front of the cars being shown is blocked out by the ticker that again, isn't showing me much useful because often, 6-20 have been replaced by cartoon image of a driver. Compared to the top scroller which, granted, only showed 3-4 drivers at a time, but continuously scrolled and didn't block much of anything. It doesn't make alot of sense to stick a fat vertical bar over the screen when broadcasting a sport that only has lateral movement. Not to mention making it harder to read.

@@tankeater Also, you do realize that it's the larger ticker that requires staring, right? With the scroller, I can very quickly read the 3 to 4 names at any given time and return to watching the race. Very similar to checking your mirror when driving. With the sidebar, there's a block the entire height of the screen that I have to scan looking for a specific driver.

Vince retired

No you don't. Man's voice needed hot tea and honey and everyone found it irritating and he sounded like he was phoning in his hype and excitement

@@chloe-stephlis6281 he got forced out of FOX is what I heard.

@vidmasterK1 Are you enjoying Jamie Little, Michael Waltrip and Phil Parson? If so you are the minority in this argument. Michael Waltrip is definitely more made for pre-race stuff.

@tylerandfriendsgaming1546 what a weird conclusion to jump to. Never did I say any of that

Agree. Now, as soon as the leader crosses the line, they cut to the stands, or the winning pit crew. Don't even show 2nd on back.

She tries to be exciting but just like Welch she's not cut out for commentating

He said he doesn't really want to travel anymore