Is there a chance u re gonna start sending those to Europe without a duty? Mny a warehouse in Europe? Mby u know sth? Cuz playing double for shoe just because of duty charge ain't cool
It's cool that these shoes exist for people with wide feet, but the weird "feet content" and scaremongering around regular shoes has to stop. Spreading nocebo and pseudoscience just to sell shoes is not cool when you have such a large platform.
Speaking as a former collegiate swimmer, it's crazy that TYR is diving into weightlifting realm! I can only speak of TYR in the market of swimming as they've been in the game for decades. I only knew TYR as a swimming brand. My school was sponsored by TYR for a few years and we got tech suits (the tight competition suits you see in Olympics swimming). It's cool to see the company making weightlifting shoes and trainers as I now am new to olympic weightlifting myself. They make durable training suits, swimming equipment, and competition suits. They last long as stand alone swimming suits, unsure if that speaks to their ability for durable lifting shoes. By the struck of luck, I currently have two pairs of Rom 2s. Those have worked the best for me and will continue to use them until the sole falls off. Good to say I still maintain profound mobility as I did when I swam competitively as flexibility is key in sport of swimming. Don't see myself getting anything else, but understanding that rom 2s will become obsolete as time goes on. Maybe I get the TYR shoes once both of my rom 2s wear out. Awesome video Zack!
ayy I'm also a former collegiate swimmer just getting into weightlifting! i love how technical it is, really scratches a similar itch to sprinting for me
I lifted in romaleo 2s for 4 years, adipowers for 2 years, and Reebok legacy’s for 1. I got into barefoot training and stopped weightlifting in my rom 2s because my foot muscles grew and my feet got wider. I immediately bought the tyr weightlifting shoes when they restocked and my love for weightlifting is back because I can lift without pain in my pinky and big toes (romaleos are definely more narrow). My Rom 2s are a size 11 and my tyr lifters are a 10.5, the ROM 2s were still WAY more narrow than the 10.5 tyr lifters. I even lifted in the Rom 2s without insoles for awhile just to gain any width I’m the toebox lol I’ve been lifting in the Tyr lifters for 4 months now and have been super pleased with them. I recently tried my romaleos on again and IMMEDIATELY felt the same pain I had awhile back. Sold them the next day. The only flaw that I can see (and this is me nitpicking to find a flaw because everything else about them are 10/10) is that the sole is a loose rubber compound. I feel that if you’re one who walks around a lot and drag your heels then you’ll start to notice wear. So as long as you don’t wear them to do any accessories or walk around too much, these will last a long time. To each is own in their experience with both shoes, but this is mine. I’ve taken my weightlifting training way more serious now and have had so much more fun doing it.
I have a pair too and I LOVE mine. You and Squat University's videos have helped me so much. I played basketball growing up and have had every lower body injury under the sun. I can now finally deep squat and barbell squat w olympic depth as a long femur lifter pain free, which is something I never thought possible. I appreciate it ❤
My first weightlifting shoe (probably been oly lifting for about 3 years now) were the reebok legacy 1's. Within a year I found they kinda wore out. The straps and velcro were trashed. Picked up some Nike Rom 4's when they came out and noticed an insane difference. They felt sturdier and more firm. Those are the only 2 I ever experienced with, but I feel like the lower heel and the wider toe box from these Tyr shoes would probably work super well for someone whos not extremely specific in weightlifting.
A big part of heel height is for people with knee pain! I have patella tendonitis and can't use anything above a .75 heel without cripple walking the next week, and also heard similar for people with cartilage issues in their knees. Also if you're more hamstring dominant, you can fire them at full strength lower in the lift with a lower heel
Videos like this are an important reminder to take the shoe review videos from shoe review content creators with a grain of salt. Will a few millimeters of heel height change how you lift? Will a slightly wider toe box make you feel more stable? Maybe. Maybe not. Ultimately people are going to have to wear these shoes for a solid month to REALLY be able to assess how different their performance feels compared to other shoes...and that's if that person isn't changing other variables in their training on top of shoes. For beginners - just pick a pair and worry about the things that actually matter: getting good technical work in and building on that session after session.
I have these and love them. Also great channel man. I’m a CrossFitter but started Hwpo lift a few months ago and your channel hit my radar about the same time which was funny in a good way. Always fun to watch your stuff. Keep up the great work man. Great content.
Reebok legacy 2 and 3’s are the best out rn that are readily available, besides the rom 2’s that are near impossible to get now unless youve had em since they dropped way back.
I'm not gonna talk about the shoe itself but about the potential importance/impact of wide toe/barefoot type of shoes in general : I have completely ( and I mean completely, not a millimeter off the ground ) FLAT feet. Born in the 90s, the consensus was "wear boots, tighter/stronger shoes" to fix your feet. I ended up with chronic ankle issues, limping was part of my life since I was a teenager until I just couldn't walk closing to my 30s and covid hits so no hospital services available to help. My wife told me to try barefoot shoes. A year and a half later of wearing them daily : Fixed my posture, fixed my walk ( I used to walk like a penguin, now my feet are parallel ), and my feet are actually strong for the first time in my life. So for those who have the same issues I've had my WHOLE LIFE please, try barefoot shoes ( vivo brands or otherwise, I can only speak for vivos ).
Had since the first preorder. Zero breakdown. I will say they are lighter than any lifting shoe I’ve worn and I like to tell people they feel more “shoe-y”. Even worn them in a workout with heavy squat cleans and double unders and it’s odd how flexy but stable they are. Best weightlifting shoe I’ve ever worn.
i’m new to weightlifting and really love ur videos zack! you’ve inspired me to get a coach and hopefully one day i’ll see u at a competition somewhere in the US! I’m a tall boy too (6’2) so ur channel is really inspiring
I’ve had a pair since they came out last fall and use them mostly 6 days a week since. They’re still incredibly stable. Did take a long time to break in.
I bought these a month or two ago from a TYR vendor at a local CrossFit competition. They have not lost stability or broken down on me yet. Still loving them.
I've had these shoes for about 4 months so far. They're holding up very well (although a limited window of use) but like you Zack, I just feel more stable in the bottom position with my toes spread out through a wider box compared to a narrower toe. Glad to be somewhat justified feeling this since you have had a similar experience.
When I first got my tyr lifters, I had issue with the lockdown coming from rom2s. The thing was my foot took up so much space in the roms, I didn't have to tie my laces very tight and had gotten used to it. So once I tightened my laces appropriately it felt much better. The upper is very comfortable and doesn't create any hotspots. As for heel height, the boys at Sika Strength break down how effective heel height needs might differ between taller and shorter lifters as it is fixed across all shoe sizes. And wide toe boxes again will benefit people with wider forefeet. There is something to be said about being comfortable when training. If you can get away with adidas lifters pain free, that's good. But some people may not. I remember when weightlifting shoes has to be ordered off-line over the phone from a number on a singular website. It's great to see so many options now so easily available. Hopefully one day people will be able to compare them against each other in store.
Just bought these shoes a couple weeks ago. They are a good shoe. The toe box is great. I have super wide feet and I also am a big proponent of the bare foot movement and using your whole foot. This is the reason I bought them. Was using the Adidas Adipower II before, used them for two years.
I've been wanting to get these cause I have wide feet anyways. I was also waiting to see more reviews about how durable they are over a period of time which those two things are really all I'm looking for in a training shoe.
@@thebaseballjones I agree with this, I have pretty wide feet and was excited to try the L-1s but they're really still quite narrow. I could go a size up but then the length will be bad. Ended up just getting some Versalift Strength V2s to toss into my barefoot shoes.
Yo good to see another sleep token fan. First weightlifting shoe I’ve bought since I just got back into squatting this year so I have no frame of reference but they’re great so far. Best squat form I’ve ever had since I’m so damn inflexible with long tibias and a short torso.
Good honest video as usual! Performance wise they may be very similar…but I think it’s important to take into account the potential health benefits of the wider toe box. Less risk of bunions, plantar fasciitis, calluses.
I made the switch to heels shoes about 3 years ago when I lift. I'm happy I did. I also knew I needed wide shoes because I know from other shoes I buy, wider for me actually, in fact, better. I notice the difference quite a bit when I put on my running shoes, which are not wide fit. I went with Do-Win shoes and they have performed well over that span. I don't know the lifespan of these kinds of shoes though. I've done thousands of squats and pulls in them, as well as all the other supplemental and accessory lifts that weightlifters don't care about. I have noticed one thing in particular. They do not like cold, wet weather. I suspect it has to do with them being a leather construction. I noticed they started to pinch my small toe a few years ago when I was lifting in my buddies garage in the winter. Since then I've been a bit more careful to keep that from happening.
Between the pain in my bunion and you not immediately thinking these feel worse, I'm sold on them for weightlifting. I already own them for squats (and i LOVE the comfort and stability for that) and am just starting to get into weightlifting. My old Do Wins (again, for squatting) were supposed to be wide, but i could only wear them for about 30 minutes without pain in my big toe joint. I wear these for 3 hour days sometimes.
just tried these for the first time, was using adidas adipower II before which i really love over every other oly shoe i have tried, and ive tested a lot. super light, stable, and great mobility. i had a shit session but still loved this shoe. its now my fav shoe. it just makes sense to have a shoe with a wide toe box so that your foot can operate as it evolved to with splayed toes. i do agree, like you said, that someone with ankle mobility issues might not get as much out of the shoe compared to some of the other shoes out there but just as you said about the shoe not being the limiting factor, just work on your mobility more and dont blame the shoe. this is an amazing shoe
I've had the Tyr lifters since late January and love them. Haven't had any sign of wear. I really like the wider toebox for squats. I've used them only for squat variations, no Olympic lifting (doing a powerbuilding program with EvolveAI app), but they're the best squatting shoes I've found. I've used adistar, adipower, leistung, no bull lifter and these are by far my favorite, have finally ended by quest for the perfect shoe for me. I'm gonna dabble with some Oly lifting in the next few months so will see how they do there. My fave for Oly were the leistung, but the torsion strap broke away from the attachment on one of mine so can't tighten one shoe anymore.
Been using them since December. They haven’t shown any signs of breaking down at all! Love them to bits. I have pizza feet 🍕so the toe box definitely helps.
My feet is so wide (5E width), I had to get my weightlifting shoe custom made by Zoltán Doma from eastern Europe. ASICS TOW727 is too narrow for me. I doubt TYR will fit me.
I’ve had Nike romeleos, and adidas. And got the tyr shoes a couple months ago and love them so far. The Nikes always hurt my feet really bad. These are super stable and comfortable. Love them.
I’ve had my TYR lifters for a few weeks now and love the hell out of them. Finally fully-connected at the foot for every lift. Can’t sing enough praise.
I have wide feet so I was ready to buy after you said "wide toe box." I've had the same paid of VS Athletics shoes for going on 13 years now. They have held up great and also have a wider toe box. For those on a budget who have wide-ish feet the VS Athletics are a great buy. The possible downside is they have a 1.5" heel, which is very high compared to other shoes. That's my only concern is how will I adjust to the lower heel. I'll need to work on calf mobility for sure.
I got a pair during their pre-order. I usually wore the Reebok Legacy, but the toe box has always been too narrow as I have wider feet. I ordered my usual size and I found they did fit better than the Reeboks, but still a bit tight and stiff. After loosening the laces closest to the toes they felt better and after having used them for a couple months now, they're breaking in nicely and I'm really happy with them overall. I really only use them for Olympic Lifting, and occasionally for OH squats, whereas for back squats and front squats I still prefer to go barefoot.
Wish more companies offered the 1" heel, for taller guys with long legs it does make a slight difference. I use either 1" heel or the Adidas 22mm + 3mm lift
My attempted oly lifting journey ended when I had my kid last year so I've only been training in barefoot style shoes or just training shoeless. If I went back to trying oly lifting again I'd definitely grab these. I can't go back to normal narrow toebox shoes, they feel awful.
These are so much better than any other wrighlifting shoe simply because of the larger toe box. I do wish it was just slightly wider at the top of the shoe as it has a slight taper to the toe box. But overall such a huge improvement over alll the other options
Just a testament to the notion that the shoes don't make lifts for you, IMO. Whatever shoe allows you to lift confidently in whatever style you chose is the best shoe. For me that's just some basic ass power perfect 2s. Mine are a half size small and have holes on the sides from where my toes busted out. The sole is rubber. They're not a good shoe by most metrics, but they make me feel like Torokhtiy or Aramnau (but half as strong) and I have hit PRs because of that bullshit confidence. If you get that confidence from being able to splay your toes, then more power to ya.
I used these for strictly Powerlifting (Squats and Even Bench press) They have held up pretty well. Not sure how they hold up after a bunch of Snatches, Cleans, and Jerks. My only complaint is the Velcro straps are so long for some reason so I can' t get the straps/top of the shoe as tight as I'd want it. The wide toe box + the dense bottom allows you to be extremely stable. Also, for the white ones, the straps and some fabric parts tend to yellow a tiny bit, but thats a cosmetic issue.
i looked at the thumbnail super fast before I clicked and strangely I thought you were a sonny webster video, I was happily surprised when it was you lol
I got them about 4-months ago, and yea, at first, they were really tight. After wearing them 2-3 times, they got better. I have the white ones, and they do get a bit dirty, especially since I use them 4-5 times a week. I like them overall. Will see how they hold over time.
Great video, how about making a video about hookgrip with people with small hands.... like me. Hahah I merely don't use hookgrip and have this weird lack of mobility on my right wrist.
Running the Reebok Legacy 1. I don’t have a wide foot so there is no way I will be touching the TYR’s. I like my foot and shoe to feel as one. Comfortably Tight, solid and stable. Extra movement in my shoe in the toe box is not something I want but I can see how it may benefit people who struggle with narrow shoes.
Zach I think generally speaking you need a lot more heel height than typical since I’m assuming you’re like a size 15? I’ve been wanting to ask for a while now but you answered it in the video, that the wedge is a distance not angle. I.e. a shoes half as long as yours will have twice the angle of wedge to meet the same wedge height. IMO it’s the angle that matters not the height so I’d say in general you’d need a really tall wedge height to have the same effect as the same shoe but a smaller size. Just an observation, by no means am I an expert at shoe design or lifting. IMO you’d gain a lot more than you think with a really tall wedge.
So its been about a year since this video has come out, and I bought a pair of tyr's. They are great! I love them buttt..... the stiches that hold the velcro on the straps has completely disintegrated and I'm very sad about the build quality issues.
Definitely a wide tow box kind of guy. The narrow tie box in my current lifters I have to warm in to whether it be my feet or the shoes giving. I’d much rather have wide box in trainers or lifters to begin with.
I got these a few months ago when I started weightlifting (entirely motivated by watching this channel), specifically for the wide toe box, and they've been worth every penny. I had tried on my coach's Adidas before and while they were serviceable, they were very uncomfortable in the toes, and I didn't feel like I had a good connection to the ground so to speak. It'd be akin to someone who had spent his entire life running in barefoot/minimalist shoes suddenly going into something like a Nike Invincible: a strange and somewhat jarring experience (something I've also done before). This isn't to say that one couldn't eventually adapt to the new style of shoe, but the initial impression was not great. On the other end of the spectrum, I've tried getting some wedge insoles to stick in my Vivo Barefoots, which are my all-purpose shoes, and the result was very comfortable, but expectedly unstable. Great for if I just wanted to do some technique touches with the bar if I'm too lazy to switch shoes, but nothing I'd put any real weight on. And then there are the TYRs, which are indeed very stable, and have a relatively comfortable toe box. The toe box is wide enough that I feel like I'm able to push through my toes unhindered. For a guy with mutant swimmer feet who walks around barefoot or in barefoot shoes 99% of the day, the value of this feeling of connection to my feet that the TYRs give me cannot be understated.
My friend got a pair in the size she wears and was tight on her pinky. She sent them back ($5 to print a return label) and did 1/2 size up. Still tight on her pinky. She said she’s doing to deal with it vs being out $10 or more shipping them back and forth
Didn't know Tyr made weightlifting shoes, always thought of their swimming stuff. It's kinda like mizuno, I knew them for their judo gis but didn't know they also make swim tech suits. The more you know
I’ve had my tyr oly shoes since the preorder drop. They essentially look as good as they did the day I got em with a little chalk I rubbed on the top to make people think I lift. I train about 3 times a week in them. I HAVE noticed since I’ve been doing more barefoot work and wearing xero flats for running etc that my feet also feel a bit cramped in the tyr shoes, but honestly I think I just have big fat sausage feet in my length size
We have a lot of shoes with a wide fit, but Adidas was to only company weich made shoes with a narrow fit. Unfortunately they don't make good shoes anymore. I think this TYR shoe looks like the 1st legacy lifter.
I have nearly negative dorsiflexion in my right ankle due to a premature birth issue I've had like 3 surgeries I use Reebok weightlifting shoes which have a massive heel and they're still not enough I’m nearly tempted to wear a lower heel on my left side than my right but I'm afraid of the balance component
I tried some Adidas shoes, but don't quite like them as they are made for long/slim feet and mine are quite broad. I must take like one or two sizes more to fit in there. I have some pretty average Reebok CF74 U form power shoes and they are quite nice and are enough for me - more adequate to my foot shape.
I got the reebok legacy lifter 1's had them for about 20 months. pretty good for wide feet, I went down a size from my old Adidas power perfect 3's and had the same toe space. Def not my limiting factor tho, S-85kg J-100-110 kg
I’ve used these for a few months now and they feel as great as they did the first time I put them on. Super stable and the little extra room for my feet is perfect. Finally a lifter designed for the platypus feet that I have. This is my favorite training shoe of all time.
Been using them for about 6 months. I dig them a lot. Jerks felt a bit wonky at first, but all good now. I also have surfer feet, so nearly any other shoe feels narrow in the toe box for me. Just got a second pair. Still don't like SquatU, tho.
I've had mine for over 6 months. I have fallen arches and zero dorsi flexion. Basically fused ankles! I love them for squats and cleans nice and stable. But so weird for snatches, probably due to the change in heel height. I miss snatches behind me typically. All my misses now happen out front, which is super weird. So I prefer my Nike rom 2s for snatches. Yes, I'm that person that wears two different shoes to meets. I agree they do make the feet ache a bit more but I just roll out my feet after a session and it's all good. Tldr version 8/10 😂
I appreciate that you didn't gas the shoes up after one session. On another note, this looks like the same gym that Silent Mike and Bart just did front squats in. Does that mean there's a collab on the way?
I prefer them solely… based on the premise of a wide toe box. Other than that, I’m not sure there’s that much difference to notice from one brand to another, personally. TYR ftw
Ive been sticking to my rom 2s but would like to try these out at some point. Heard that they are similar to the rom 2s in feel but with a slightly higher heel height
IMO this is one of the worst shoes in the price range (I own almost every weightlifting shoe made after 2004 adistars). The one thing positive is that the sole is very sticky. Forefoot is soft in all the worst ways (slipper like). Couldn’t feel any power transfer. Flexes/twists to the point that at least the forefoot can twist if you don’t have completely even pressure when you receive (specially in the jerk)
I really want those shoes, but Im in europe and I read that quality isnt great on reviews... Gonna have to squeeze the shit out of my toes in my trusty Adipower shoes from 2012 for now...
