We Tried Skating Anti-Rocker Again - (feat Leon Humphries) 

Freestyle frames for life!

100% nailing it with this format. Has a Braille or storror feel. Personally had me smiling all the way through.

awesome video! more with leon please 🙏

I have skated anti since I was 12 years old (2000) and still love it. I need the on-rails feeling. I skated the same set of GC anti's in about 5 different pairs of skates over 6 years. The only antis I've ever had trouble with were the Kizer grind rocks that sounded horrible even rolling. I'm now on 3D printed Higgs Boson reps and had 0 problems. Anti 4 life.

When I tried this last I had the same problems. All grinds were so much harder on anti even tho I skated anti-most my life 😅. A commenter pointed out that what changes from flat to anti is being able to do micro adjustments before you jump at a ledge. On anti, you have to line up your jump more accurately due to the train track feeling. On flat, you can make little turns last minute to line up.

The recent resurgence in skatng flat imo was when the Oysius frames came out. The combo of big wheels, huge h block while still maintaining the maneuverability and speed of flat was an eye opener for many.

really liking all these videos recently. you all have a good dynamic going. stoked for more.

I love the more frequent content! This channel has so much potential! Keep up the good work guys👍

Recently went back from aeon flat to mesmer antirocker. Love it again. So nice to have confidence grinds without worrying about wheel bite.

It's been awhile so it's worth trying again but I never liked the floaty feeling of flat skating. That confidant base while rolling anti makes jumping and airing so much nicer in my eyes. It just comes down to preferences and what tricks you actually like doing. That regardless what side your on switching always feels awful. After trying a million different set ups I have come to love 50/50 frames with a good metal core 60mm & UHMW antis.

Loving Leon’s knowledge and insight here. He is a true UK legend with a wealth of knowledge and his skating speaks for itself. Would really love to see more videos with his knowledge and insight please. Awesome Video as always. Loving the recent content ✌🏼

I’ve skated those rough England streets. Definitely need to be skating flat 🤣

Don’t listen to anyone, JUST DO YOU!!!

I started on Anti Rocker and hated aggressive skating so much. Then one day i tried a flat frame, and WOW yeah it was an eye opening experience. Now I skate aggressive all the time.

Looking forward to this one. I went to flat a year and a half ago and love it. I tried anti after a while and absolutely hated it, then I tried again recently and didn't mind it that much. Dare I say I even enjoyed something different. Now I go between the two every now and then, the one thing I like with anti that I never used to think about is the solid landing with no swivel that I get sometimes with my flat rocker setups.

0:00 What is Anti-Rocker? 0:08 Intro 1:43 History of Anti 2:00 Why did everyone switch? 4:19 Predictions 5:22 Leon Back Roy On Flat 5:36 Switching to anti 5:41 First Impressions - Leon 6:20 Royale on Anti - Leon 7:10 Gaston and Jake First Impressions 8:00 Jake Royale 8:47 Leon Front Nugen 9:34 Leon Back Nugen 10:02 Gaston Back Nugen 10:27 Leon Top Torque Soul 10:41 Rolling on rough ground 11:01 Leon Back Torque 11:28 Leon Conclusion 11:37 Jake Conclusion 12:04 Outro

I think the transition to flat has helped ppls ability to rollerblade better overall and have fun on the in between tricks as opposed to just doing a knarly grind which at our old age just doesn’t seem to matter as much. Great video!

You guys Rock! Love this!

The difference in speed between anti and flat is what fully converted me to flat, especially as a 6'5 105kg guy. I've also found that it's forced me to improve my technique. Can't really imagine going back to anti now!

Anti or not, it’s up to the blader I think. I’m so use to my anti set up since 15 and love it! Weird feeling the space in between while approaching the pyramid or just a little ramp but again I’m so use to my anti set up. All big wheels with no anti is scary actually. All big wheels with no anti feels like I’m just fitness blading rather then aggressive! Wouldn’t feel comfortable grinding with all eight big. Would be afraid to hit those huge wheels in between to be honest while jumping onto a ledge or rail. But having all eight big is great for speed, half pipes, just working the course with ramps rather then grinding! Cool video guys, wish I had your job! Looks so fun!!! Peace ✌️

Great video, guys, thanks for doing this. Always interesting to see other POV on this matter. One thing not mentioned was; which anti's you were using? Might be nice to get a comparison video of all the anti's available on the market.

I never skate on flat… anti rocker forever 🌈

I am completely the opposite way. Like Broskow, except not NEARLY as good, lol. I hate flat and prefer anti. I do like Flat sometimes in a park, and definitely for just cruising around not doing any aggressive. I just don't know why EVERY VIDEO OF ANTI I see, most of the time, they are using those shit plastic ground control wheels. Or something similar. I use a LEGIT urethane ANTI, usually from Dead wheels. With bearings and spacers. This is how it was back in the day. No noise and they ACTUALLY roll if they hit something on the ground. I should also state that I started back in 1995 in Staten Island NY and we all skated anti back then. Flat was just getting a little popular when I stopped. I quit in 2000 just as Fish and Franco were putting our crew and SI NY on the map. But I started again 3 years ago and I still prefer anti.

haha loved some of the groans and noises going on there. Also brilliant editing again! haha. I think Anti rocker is not too bad if you're small/weigh less. But flat is just too much fun for me.

Anti rocker is the way to go. I honestly havent seen many aggressive bladers that dont have anti rocker wheels

Cool film idea Loco!

As someone who quit over 20 years ago and never skated flat. This was very interesting insight.

Interesting to see this, because I tried anti for the first time in 3 years yesterday and pretty much died. So not only did this just come out in good time it's certainly reminded me why I skate flat. 😂

I still can't believe rolling is coming back. I'm 42 and literally wearing a Realm sweatshirt as I watch this. I sti have first run England and Mindgame clothing. I still have VG issues on VHS! Well, better late than never.

What a fun watch!!

I caught a glimpse of the guy in a chequered shirt and wanted to see that nugen or a couple more from him. Cos he landed beautifully. Entertaining video!

Been skating anti-rocker most of my life and love it. I don't find flat enjoyable for grinding which is mainly why I actually do aggressive inline skating.

The way frames are now with a huge h block area you really don't need anti rocker, back in the day antirocker was born out of necessity, now that need has been answered by bigger h block space, makes sense to take advantage of a flat setup and just skate harder wheels in the middle if you feel like you need to!

Haha this was awesome! I keep going back and forth, but think I've settled on anti (urethane antis, not the loud plastic ones) with quality ~62-64mm round profile outer wheels. I haven't felt enough "benefit" when switching to flat from this to warrant the extra wheel bite yet.

Cool video, about to pick up some eugin Enins from you guys. Wanted to see what has changed in the 12 years since I bladed

Going from flat to anti is not an easy transition. I think it would take more than one session to really get a feel for how to maneuver well on anti, and to give a truly fair comparison. Stuart Brattey brings up some interesting points in regards to the benefits of Anti Rocker for skating in general, not just for easier grinds, on his episode on The Wax Toaster Podcast. Definitely an interesting listen, especially considering his background with rockered set ups and Wizard skating.

This was entertaining! To this day I've never skated aggressive flat! But I do go between my SL's and my RB cruisers and the difference in speed and maneuverability is absurd. I think if i was skating aggressive more these days I would invest some time in to going flat, purely for the reason Jake pointed out - it makes the in between bit way more fun.

I like both.

Loads of pros skate anti rocker not just broskow ! Jon fromm ,Derek Henderson, Cj Wellsmore , Genoud, Cudot , bobi, nils, soichiro ! Yuto, enin, Marc Moreno, billy O’Neil…etc Good video and I would like to see more of this kind of content ✌️

seems this switch happens every so often. I remember starting skating in 97 ish and anti rocker was the norm, then around 98-99 everyone just collectively switched to flat. Came back to skating round 2007 ish and everyone was back on anti´s and freestyle, and maybe about 2 years ago the switch back to flat started.

Great video! My last skates were Razor Murda’s - no middle wheels at all, just a massive H block. Trying to decide which way to go now I’m getting drawn back in by content like this…

My favorite frames have always been the Kizer Freestyle type M, just h block for days, light, sturdy, no rattling antirockers. THo... the rattling antirockers don't rattle for long when ur doin street skating and they get cut up and become one with the frame haha so ultimately antirockers felt like they'd just become freestyle frames after a bit of street use. It's so funny to see everybody on flat these days, last time I skated regularly it was all about antirockers and xsjado just blew our minds with their crazy x frame freestyle frame haha. oooh memories! Now I wanna go back and watch ego again haha, good times.

I love these discussions you should do a podcast

After getting back into skating 6 months ago, after almost 30 years away, I immediately started on flat. Recently I tried out anti-rocker and I agree with all the opinions here, it just feels so much worse to roll around, and that is so much of what I like about rollerblading at this age.

My switch came from the Kizer Slimline 2 in around 2012, I just love the option to run bigger front and rear wheels, just helped with uneven surfaces. I came from a full freestyle set up but sometimes would struggle getting a decent lock on a rail and being a bit messy and lazy with my feet. Then picked up some of the Bake frames, 72mm flat and never wanted to go back, although they are pretty heavy.

Personally regardless of trends I use anti-rocker (with grind wheels). The reason is if I am grinding a rail or ledge where falling is likely gonna hurt a lot, I have less chance of bite on that obstacle from the rubber middle wheels. But bigger wheels and frames are great for doing gaps or just bombing around town on. To each their own though.

I skate a 64mm anti rocker setup so I still get a bit of speed. I wouldn't mind trying flat on an agresive setup again though. The Oysi medium frame appeals to me the most but the main thing stopping me is the limited availability of the wheels in the sizes needed for this (65's on the outside and 58's on the inside)

In my first couple years of skating I used Xsjado Mooks (great frames IMO) and eventually made the switch to Anti when I got some Deshi Spizers. Had Kizer Suspension M-type frames around that time too which were interesting for sure! Tried a Flat set-up for about a month when I got the Bolinos or so and I liked the speed increase from 8 wheels over 4, but wheel bite was always an issue for me... Been skating anti again ever since. Would be interested in seeing how Featherlite Antis vs Oysi compare though.

“Review a feeling” is so accurate 😂

Personally, I think we got it right in the 90s - small wheel flat is the best fun for me. Best of both worlds. Still very nimble and fast, but a little more security on grinds. I really enjoyed the 56mm on the beers.

I've been skating anti-rocker since I came back to blading a year ago (Roces M12 Loco edition with the stock setup). It took me months to realise that nobody else does anymore... I'm still stuck in the early-mid 2000s.

I tried antirocker for the first time awhile back. Hated it. But then tried again on the cults with a fluid V frames, and loved it. Didnt experience the train track feeling much at all. The key is, you have to shrink the wheelbase down so the wheels line up almosy directly under the heels and toes. Once I figured out the error of my ways the 1st time, im loving antirocker. Flat is great but mmm. Im in love with the anti now.

Went from anti on my Roces to flat on my Oxygens and K2 Fattie Pros back in 1997. Never looked back. Skating became so much smoother.

Anti.. on my solomon st9s with hyper bryan bells and bloods on the inside which were rock solid lol. Good memories 😄

I had always skated anti, started in 2003 and the last pair of skates I owned were the Valo Rolls by Loco. I tried a flat setup with the Nimh Shaman after seeing Brian Shima skating a flat setup

Been skating kizer m types since around 2004 anything else feels weird. Good video guys I guess we just get used to what we skate!

I've been on a 68mm anti rocker setup for about a year now. Loving it.

Love how the subtitles said ‘20 waka’ instead of ‘to anti rocker’ when Jake was talking at the beginning. 😂😂

Way prefer flat now...it is sooo much faster and just feels loads better when rolling. I find that the wheel profile makes the biggest difference when it come to avoiding wheelbite. Rocking the 59mm Richies with the bullet profile...they are epic.

You guys should do a juice block episode I love mine aha

When I skated I mainly set up freestyle. Rode freestyle on Kizer Ranier Pyramides for the longest. Tried anti, which was okay, but I still preferred freestyle. Tried flat with 52mm eulogy wheels on fiziks frames. I liked the speed and extra stability and being able to maneuver better, but I hated the wheel bite.

I was all about Anti until Covid. Then all I could do is skate a p-rail in my garden. The paving slabs are rough and uneven so had to skate flat to get any kind of roll out of it, and reduce the risk of just stacking it rolling along. Learned how to avoid wheel bite on the rail, and just never went back to anti after that. There wasn’t any reason to.

Maybe it’s just me but you’re style looks more Solid on anti-rocker looks more controlled for all of you guys

Started in 99. Skated all of my "good", younger years on anti like most. Usually with 56-58mm right? They were trying to figure out which frames started the change. I'm thinking it was the Kizer elements, with the H-block you could flip around for deeper or shallower groove. That's what got me to change. Control felt more like my roller hockey background. Then the slimlines came out and I rode those and rode flat for years 55-56mm flat. However, while I never stopped skating, my skating consistency decreased do to my career and more recently, a family. I'm not as disciplined or as technically good in my movements anymore and unfortunately don't have the time to dedicate in order to reach that level again. I've made the choice to return to anti after 6-7 years flat. I can't afford to catch my wheels and die. It's obviously possible to roll fast and fly around parks. Just look at CJ. I find that the metal hubs definitely help with speed. Just need to find the right set up.

"That was horrific." I felt that.

Release of Aeons as well had an impact i think with the 72mm flat frame

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The Tri-rocker it calls to you… join me InWheelLife brothers 🖤🙏🏽

My memory is a bit fuzzy on the details but Cosmo wheels is what began the flat movement. They had a cryptic advert in I think VG5(?) that ended with the words “4down”. This was for a wheel that was maybe 50mm 90a. It was large enough to… well, not be an anti-rocker wheel, and small enough to create a larger gap in the center for grinds. Some skated began incorporating larger center spacing (5th Elements, Dirks, etc..) Shortly after UFS was developed (just after the failure of the Senate wide frames that never ended up making it to market). Anyways, after that grooves just started getting wider. But to my knowledge this “4down” is was sparked it. I switch back to anti-rocker in 2010. It was admittedly awful feeling for the first days, now I’d never go back to a flat setup.

After more than 20 years riding anti-rocker i try flat and i like it. Now i ride both and when my knee hurt i prefer flat!

I just got back into blading 2 weeks ago. Skated in the mid 90's with Anti-rocker, then everybody switched to flat. I did as well, I loved it. I was more into aerial tricks and gaps. But even grinding, I never experienced wheel bite. I bought some M12 Roces, stock Anti rocker and I don't think I like it at all.

I agree with you guys, I started out flat in 98 with k2 style points bobs, later switched to anti and did so for years just like everyone else. In 2020 I picked up some oysi mediums and fell in love, not quite as good at grinds on flat though, or I suppose there’s a slight bit of rocker on those. But 2021 I picked up the 5050 prime frames when they came out and some dead antis and figured I’d give it another shot just to see, and my conclusion is that the act of skating itself feels fucking horrible on anti, feels like skating through mud and you can barely turn. It could be useful if you’re trying some new grinds on a practice rail or something, but the act of skating itself is just simply not fun in comparison to flat or having some rocker. It doesn’t help that I recently got into wizard skating and that opened up a whole new realm of movement on skates without grinding.

top torque was dialled tho!

Do you think more people skate flat now than anti? I'd say it's still a pretty even split, if not more on anti. There's a LOT of people who don't care about gear at all, and will just skate FLT3's with the stock plastic anti's forever.

Back in the day I was flat, started just park, started Street and went anti rocker with the ground control, noise was horrific, then came the kizers with the huge block (forget name) and never changed back. Will say my favourite/ safety trick used to be back torque and was bliss with the ground controls, not they great with the pretty square shape of kizers. You get used to the tramline feeling of no middle wheels, flat is just way too sketchy and near impossible on the rounded ledges, which most of Bristol's has, maybe new wider hblock frames have fixed that but if you wanted to do an acid or top soul at big Lloyds Bristol ledges, you better have some balls or ridiculous wide stance trying not to get the wheels to bite.

this fantastic, as I'm currently going through the transition to flat after deccades of anti. thank you ^_^

I've stated antirocker for years because I couldn't grind well when I first started. And all my friends skated antirocker too. I want to move to a flat setup, currently on usd thrones freestyle frame. Any recommendations?

I wanna try flat since on the rare occation when i skate i mostly flow around in bowl and not grinding much these days.

11:35 Well said.

ive never skated flat, but now that i'm older and moved into a big city im thinking of making the switch, i love the free space of anti but id be lying if i said the lack of speed doesnt annoy me

I skated both flat and anti rocker i like both just think it depends on the frame and skate of course wheels too. I think it is easier to find your anti rocker setup.

Flat has a value for the rolling advantages and anti has advantages for ease of grinding. Enjoy skating, however the setup. 72/60 Oysi is my vibe✌️

Well, this has done nothing to soothe my anxiety over getting back out on a pair of skates in close to 20 years (SLs with plastic anti-rocker GC frames!). Saying that, I switched to anti-rocker when the Mindgame Higgs Boson grind wheels came out, so it might be alright...maybe.

Huh, I didn't know that people tend to prefer flat. I just got some flat skates, gonna try them out.

I don’t know 🤷‍♂️ if it makes a difference but some of us don’t use not middle weels at all one in the front an one in the back if u do ur royals the right way u won’t slip out but anti rockers ware for first time Lerner

hey could u reccomend me some skates please? I'm like 16 but my size is 3-4 UK and I'm trying to find some skates that would fit me and come in black or white and not flashy pink and bright kid colours lmao

Back in the day I had 72mm wheels on the outside and 47mm anti rockers. Absolutely ridiculous setup and I played hockey in them too.

Anti-Rocker for backside farfig to kindgrind

Random production request: please clip your Rode mics inside the shirt (clip facing out) so they don't hang off away from the body so awkwardly!

I have tried to go flat a few times (Kaltik, Oysi, Aeon, THEM street frame) and always find myself back on anti. I find with a large wheel (currently on 64s with Prime frames) the speed isnt much of an issue, and I am so used to anti the "train tracks" doesnt bother me.

When is there best competition on im england

Can I set my Razors Cult to a flat profile by just changing the whells and not the frames?

FLAT for LIFE

The thing is anti rocker is completely different with Famus wheels. I feel like it’s faster than a flat Sola setup…

Since I skate flat, I tend to follow skaters who also skate flat to inspire me to stick with it.

My guy at 10:40 sounds like he needs bearing spacers in his wheels

I still prefer M -Type frames.

I've never skated a flat set up and I hate Anti-rocker... Love my freestyle frames... X-kiezer or some shit... Anyone else the same?

Amigo es Zeco de la coscu army mannn

24years rollin just tryed anti last week lets just i am flat again lol.