Weil McLain Gas Boiler Overheating on High Temperature and Not Heating The House

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FIVE PLUMBERS FAILED! 30 year old Weil McLain gas boiler overheating on high temperature and not heating the house. 5 Plumbers and 5 Parts later - yet the boiler still isn't heating the house. Diagnosed a defective circulator in 5 minutes and replaced in under 60!
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@tuhinahmed7190 Год назад

So glad you service our area. One of the best plumber with knowledge. Keep up with the great work brother.

@eddiew.6485 Год назад

The missing (and most obvious) piece of the puzzle……The Circulator! 4 previous “FS Techs” could not figure that out? Time for them to turn in their Man card! Nice job by both you and your pal Peter, Mikey👍

@eddiew.6485 Год назад

@@PipeDoctor Tx…….and to you and yours!🕎

@throttlebottle5906 Год назад

to be fair, it seemed intermittent and they may have been fooled by "rushing the job" or they just suck. 🤣🤣

@wjodf8067 Год назад

Wow quite the yackfest but you kept your cool and got it going those big pipes reminded me of an old victorian house that had a gravity fed system with no circulator and a working gas boiler from 1912

@adolfodelgado9361 Год назад

That was my other boila in the rental it took and our for the heat to get to the second floor but the radiators 10 feet long ,18 inches wide ,24 inches tall, monsters of radiators, with 3 inches pipes, by the boiler y cut the 3 inches and install circulators and in 15 minutes they got heat now, that boila have to be from the 40 st but works good and not much gas $$$$$

@robertfisher632 Год назад

In scotland we bleed the Radiators as part of the work,

@consolidatedplumbingandhea4390 Год назад

Fairly standard for me to do an amp test on the pump on any no heat call. Minimum it gives you a baseline of what is going on. It is fast and not intrusive on the system. That said we have been doing this long enough that the mind rules out fast what is not and issue. Like Holmes said "When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth". Basically stop and think before changing parts.

@KRich408 Год назад

I'm going to have lots of fun fixing all the mistakes with my Boiler. I just purchased a house built in 1914 first I have to remove the water heater because it's blocking access to the boiler. Not sure how I'm going to relocate it yet. Then the boiler is going to need a major tune up. It probably hasn't been done in ages . The water heater is new and the circulator looks about 10 years old. Lots of stalactites growing around fittings on it . Hopefully I don't need to replace it this winter. I got the house for a great price a little under $100k it's all brick and in great shape so I can't complain if it needs a boiler just hoping it gets through a Northern winter we.are about 45 minutes from the Canadian border at lake Superior. It gets really cold up here. If you were closer to me I would probably pay you to service it but you're out near where I grew up I like peace and quiet the city life is behind me now as I retired 😊 . I have no clue how to move the water heater because of the proximity of the chimney, maybe I need to get a Hybrid unit and heat the water with electricity?

@theodorgiosan2570 6 месяцев назад

Get a tankless and it will vent directly through the wall and also save you money. You can put it wherever you want. My water heater was on the opposite side of the house from the kitchen and bathroom and when I switched to a tankless I moved it across the house so it's directly underneath.

@Regii_HVAC Год назад

Mikey Pipes and Peter Piper!! That alone should bring at least another 100 k subscribers lol

@jasongeo2 5 месяцев назад

I know exactly where that street is at. Been on it few times. Yea imagine in the snow ice going down .

@PipeDoctor 5 месяцев назад

Snow and ice don’t mix

@jasongeo2 5 месяцев назад

@@PipeDoctor sippy cup would pee in his pants sliding down that street towards that intersection of death

@Metal-never-die1220 Год назад

The good cauldron is past its prime. The pump is defective Bearing damage. i love our job Everywhere in the world the same problem with the boiler.

@anthonyspadafora1384 Год назад

Pumping into the expansion tank is trouble. All circulation is now negative pressure. They installed a purge assembly on a radiator system lol. I would have opened the flow valve as there is no longer a coil, they can stick and stop circulation and you may as well let that heat gravitate into the radiators instead of locking it in the boiler to get sucked out the chimney. Two pipe direct return gravity system converted to forced circulation without reversing the returns causes random flows in system. 175000 BTU's needs 17.5 GPM. Your 0015 will do 18gpm but the previous little red wouldn't. You could have spent 3 days there. lol

@anthonyspadafora1384 Год назад

@@PipeDoctor I said you could have not should have lol You did exactly what I would have done.

@anthonyspadafora1384 Год назад

@@PipeDoctor It's a shame when you look at these old gravity hydronic systems and think about the men that installed them. They were artist. Then you look at what several decades of ignorance did to these systems. Working in the Northeast portion of the country these systems are taken for granted but a lot of your viewers have never seen these beautiful systems complete with ornate radiators. Show more of these original systems systems you work on daily. I was at a sandblast/powdercoat shop in Lancaster this summer. There were quite a few radiators in the yard waiting to be blasted and powder coated, really gorgeous stuff. Then you go to the scrap yard and see these radiators scrapped so they could install electric baseboard for their section 8 rentals. Very sad. Love your videos Mikey, you are working in an area that is a treasure trove of these old hydronic systems. Show them!

@ahall8119 Год назад

Wassup Mikey Pipes, anyway you could share a few comments in a later video on what exactly your looking for with that testo gadget- I see the co and t-stack temp and I was wondering what are acceptable ranges like do they vary depending on the unit and what exactly are you doing to adjust it, gas pressure? If not, its no big deal but I appreciate your videos man, its made me a better plumber.

@ahall8119 Год назад

Man thank you Mike, much appreciated brother

@poorrican1026 Год назад

You ever need to get the age of a Weil McLain boiler look up the CP number

@eugenkaranxha1659 10 месяцев назад

It’s the circulating pump those plumbers should have known it automatically as soon as they know it was overheating

@greekmaster1001 Год назад

That must some.old Italian insulation

@antd2733 Год назад

I’m in Elmont. Whats the longest lasting brand of thermo coupler.

@DuctlessExpert Год назад

Why aren’t you promoting the Bosch boilers

@dontarguewithfools Год назад

Moral of the story. Don't lie to a peofessional... 5 plumbers been there my keister

@scottvolage1752 Год назад

I wonder how much that ball valve has restricted the flow. That is an old gravity feed system and I bet the narrowest part of the system.

@tedlahm5740 Год назад

Wonderful observation.

@keithN6 Год назад

All they need is more tinfoil

@TMung-yp2vr Год назад

@@PipeDoctor is tinfoil really effective lol

@alanholt6535 Год назад

I'm waiting for you to be licensed in Kansas.

@NestorHVAC Год назад

Nice job!! I’m always learning from the way you run your business!!!

@Relldumout 5 месяцев назад

Mike what does it mean when u turn on ya heat n the heat n pressure goes up where the tpr value let's out lots of steam n water ... please help 😢

@samsquires2877 Год назад

What service app are you using? I’m an service electrician and my company uses service titan.

@brian2359 Год назад

Holy crap Mike, you don’t charge enough for these calls!

@MrOnelone Год назад

5 plumbers. 6th one replaced a circulator, which was obvious before even showing up. But when a home owner said that expansion tank has to be replaced constantly it was ignored completely. That circulator is pumping right in to that expansion tank. Come on Mike. How come you left it like that ?

@adolfodelgado9361 Год назад

Costomer don't want to paid to replace no other way I think, he let them know but no reaction, I am a beginner and I noticed right away

@patrickguarracino3174 Год назад

Mike you got more degrees than sleepy Joe

@DPMechanical1 Год назад

Cling cling cling. Cling cling cling

@jeffkablock3229 Год назад

lol im a 45 year service tech in florida lol i just retired good luck to you, test not guess gauge up amp up and inspect all the system there can always be more than one thing wrong always full service so you have less than 5 % call backs good luck on your test in florida !

@tedlahm5740 Год назад

Would the Gravity Feed system function without a circulator? Please bleed the air out of the radiators?

@stevemiller4493 Год назад

I'm assuming, the boiler shutdown on high limit. Set point usually in 180 degrees to 120 degrees on the low end.

@adolfodelgado9361 Год назад

Yes but takes to long to deliver heat, and yes you can't adapt pumps, a lot of work and dirty, but you get heat faster and bleeding the radiators faster

@Keegeth Год назад

For gravity heat I think you need at least 2” piping off the boiler. I’m not 116yo so I’m not completely sure 😅

@Brian-nl1ok Год назад

Hate when people say the boiler needs a tuneup. Show me the points show me the plugs show me the condenser. There is no tuneup on a boiler just a sales pitch for a lazy man. The gas valve was factory set and should’ve been fine. I guess what you were looking for was a two-stage gas valve. Which wasn’t necessary. And if he had nice blue tips on that flame and the proper gas pressure and the valve and the proper gas pressure out of the valve. You’d have no problem with that gas valve.. Making sure that there is no scale from the boiler falling down on the burner annually is a good idea. But you’re not lubricating the burners. And I still don’t understand what the goddamn tuneup is all about other than making sure that all the controls are operating properly. Guys are charging an arm and a leg for what they call a tuneup. When no more than a tea cup worth of soot accumulates in the chimney with a proper burning boiler. It’s not an oil burner. That’s my little rant. Stop charging people for a tuneup that doesn’t exist.

@Brian-nl1ok Год назад

@@PipeDoctor Mikey, I was in a bad mood. Maybe I was a little hard on you. I am a master plumber from the state of New Jersey. I was never a very good businessman. And if you’re gonna be in self-employed, you have to be both. Just a small shop with three trucks. Annual service is necessary for any boiler. You are correct. But some of these service policies that I’ve seen that these guys are pushing on people are just outlandish. And I’m sure you know what I mean and that’s what I was getting at. I also was taken back by a couple of boilers that I saw with that one stage gas valve. Where the gas comes on with a rather large 💨 whoosh, and prefer a two stage gas valve. As long as it didn’t singed my eyebrows, I didn’t see too much of a problem with it. I would prefer a two stage gas valve. It just seems safer. So you’re right on a lot of accounts. So many homeowners are clueless and others are just plain afraid of the boiler in their home. Spending the time to help familiarize the homeowner with the equipment that they have imparted much faith between me and the customer. And that’s the route that I took more times than not with most of the clients that I had. I wish you the best. Keep making the good videos. And sorry I was so critical. Now retired Rockefeller, plumbing and heating New Jersey.

@hinaltayagi8931 Год назад

liked a lot

@bnice12 Год назад

ECM pump on an old system full of ferrous material and no mag separator? You're gonna eat the cost of that pump when you should have just put a good ol 0015 in there.

@throttlebottle5906 Год назад

really no difference in terms of getting some schmutz inside the cartridge area of either, both work off magnetics. the ECM should have more starting torque and less chance of being stuck with schmutz in it. the bearings would be the same still(water lubricated/cooled), most of them sticking are crud clumping up in the bearing surfaces or impeller to volute seal ring area. most often from too much oxygen in the water, because of leaks, bad tank/relief causing frequent refill or customer draining/filling it.

@theoriginalredneck3464 Год назад

Machine gun oil! LOL

@suzylarry1 Год назад

I see the numbers on the first test for Co2 and I thought , something is wrong, I am not a furnace guy , but from other RU-vid technicians on Heating/cooling , they show the BAD and the good , as you just did. KOTO's for educating the customer ,as they WERE told ," its ok" but that Co2 level can and does KILL. Great fix , hope they take care of YOU as you take of THEM . Thank you !

@Boilerking76123 Год назад

You mean CO

@arielhernandez2911 Год назад

Taken over the whole east coast 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

@AustifyOG 10 месяцев назад

Hp baby born & raise 😂💯

@pualruiz Год назад

I already know those Homeserve guys didn’t want to change that circulator pump because they would’ve had to start bleeding radiators, that’s the first thing I saw

@pualruiz Год назад

@@PipeDoctor a lot of those guys are old and are waiting to retire. The big executives are always pushing to sell contracts like coverage for your gas line or waste line, so there’s more of an incentive to sell contracts and to actually fix the problem that the customer has. I was there for six years. Trust me I know.

@roberthernandez1985 Год назад

I was going to say it took me about 5 seconds to guess it was the circulator when I saw it wasn’t moving enough hot water provided it’s not a scale clog in the galvanized not likely since it’s 2” pipe

@toli0968 Год назад

Homeserve guy here. Why would I turn down work? Make my living by replacing parts.

@valenzaplumbing 11 месяцев назад

We contract for Homeserve a lot. If we needed to bleed radiators to do the job correctly, I would tell them that, and they’d pay.

@Zack-fu8sn Год назад

Haha machine gun oil

@eduardorodriguez-ei4mw Год назад

I AM the 6 plumber doc

@juan011503 Год назад

mike give me work 😀

@eddyvideostar Год назад

Community: At 0:28 seconds: It's a devilish dilemma knowing what mom-and-pop contractor to trust. Why would a one-one RU-vidr expert superstar bare his wares, making the public wonder about the others?

@stevemiller4493 Год назад

Excellent video. If you're Mikey Pipes, I'm Stevie "Heat Man". I only do heat Not to many central air systems in the hood. 5 plumbers my butt. Any rookie could figure our the pump was the issue.

@johnmurphy6366 Год назад

That B&G is probably from new!

@johnmurphy6366 Год назад

No roll out switch,that pilot generator is chooched!,no way that was serviced last year!

@RollingRoadEFI Год назад

Peener Piper lol.

@throttlebottle5906 Год назад

"five plumbers" looked at it and it's still broken. that really makes me wonder about plumbers abilities... then again, perhaps he should have just called an HVAC/R company to start with or combined company? not like it's a steamer, which has whole raft's of "gotcha's" involved :)

@adolfodelgado9361 Год назад

My hot water boila is fron 1973 went installed and is gas, I just install relay with transformer, pressure relief valve, water circulator, water feed valve, expansion tank, pressure reducing valve, air vent, and tanks to listen and asking questions and common sense, I was able to do it my self at parts cost, and now I will be able to do more with the class I taking with you, tank you very much

@Joe-xu8sk Год назад

SAD, OLD style little red cir. that five service people could not satisfied this customer (old school location of extrol works. )

@kcMan7938 Год назад

I thought the water psi (12psi) was a little low ? . I find around 15 psi you get better circulation , especially to second floor radiators.

@TheReelGonz Год назад

In English it's Latin Chicks In Spanish you flip it... Chicas Latinas 🔥🔥🔥

@rodneythe3rd122 Год назад

Love the shout out to Steve and Ms. Molly 😂

@marty0715yt Год назад

Thanks MP. Doing it right. AND DOCUMENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 35 years ago we turned down a new furnace sale because the slick salesman wouldn't tell us what he was going to install. We went with a local guy who gave us a typed and signed quote describing exactly what he would do and with what. They should go back and demand money back from those 5 whackadoodles for not fixing the problem. No fixy, no tickey.

@jimbonito9810 Год назад

The new style 0015 very nice , me likey , Nice Job explaining all to the customer ... See Ya

@rickw4160 Год назад

So some other plumber took the expansion tank and moved it from the outlet side.. even though it's supposed to be on the outlet side. The yellow flames was noticable from the first ignition in your video!

@stevesolt4036 Год назад

When customers call someone for service they should ask them if they know Mickey pipes? If they say no they should call someone that does.

@beardy4831 Год назад

I didn't see one but I would think a stuck or sticky zone valve could have been causing similar lack of circulation issues. ?.

@Silence724 10 месяцев назад

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@atlasfueloilinc.2421 Год назад

Those b&g circs would lock up and stick I would check that circ and check air in rads 12:20

@Kevin-ip8uf Год назад

Hey Mike, the correct way to make your apprentice shit his pants is the moment he turns on a breaker or a switch, you clap your hands loudly (be sure to stand behind him so he can't see you do this). I dont know if you've ever had something arc out but it sounds a lot like that. 😂 Happy holidays bro, keep the apprentices on their toes.

@lawrenceanderson6167 Год назад

Back 30 yrs ago had a raised ridge dormer done on my house in Wantagh. the plumbing subcontractor was a plumber from hell. so many mistakes. I am glad I watched the job as closely as I did. To correct a mistake the plumber installed heating pipes in an exterior wall cutting 2 2x4 studs more then half way. Building inspector told the plumber he could not do that ( I called the inspector back) then the toilet they installed leaked from the closet flange ( new toilet) then the water pipe leaked from a joint and I saw he was heating the pipe and then the solder and trying to push the solder into the joint. I asked if he drained the water from the line and he said he did not have to do that ( what an idiot) final problem was when I first put the heat on after the extension was done and we had constant heat to the extension could not control the heat. The plumber came and put a one way flow valve just before the circulator in a vertical pipe. still had constant heat in the extension. saw on the flow valve it said install on horizontal pipe only. called the general contractor and he tried to call the plumber. the plumber told him he did not want to fix anything more at my place. ( all the problems were clearly his mistakes) I called my heating contractor and he came and said the flow valve he installed in the vertical pipe was doing nothing he said when they solder the one way flow valve they must loosen the screw on top to keep from damaging the valve and all he had to do was turn the screw back down so the flapper would keep hot water from flowing until the circulator pulled the water through

@GoatzombieBubba Год назад

Five Guys Burgers is branching out to the plumbing business.

@mc1847 Год назад

I wonder what kelvin is doing, funny how time flies

@willardpinson1197 Год назад

Hi Peter piper ...

@Colinoverkamp Год назад

You got yourself a new sub💪🏻 love you’re content! Greets from Holland

@throttlebottle5906 Год назад

"I'm a bean counter", howling here 🤣

@johnmurphy6366 Год назад

The dog whisperer,priceless!Lilco predated LIPA!Like the education you are giving them!They had plumbers,not HVAC tech’s,there in lies the difference!Good job,Mike!

@thefathvacguy6341 Год назад

Once again.. The doctor has the right diagnosis...

@thefathvacguy6341 Год назад

@@PipeDoctor hells yeah!!! Get them stacks...

@williamserver4332 Год назад

I'll admit it didn't use a combustion analyzer for many years. I should have. Great video.

@samihabib661 Год назад

lol mike, you're gonna have the most epic valentines party based on the subs you're getting so far

@mattwittneben443 Год назад

5 plumbers and they still can’t install an expansion tank correctly.

@3fingerclay439 Год назад

Good sale for tin foil?

@moneyparhar Год назад

Lady needs to be more quite

@TheReelGonz Год назад

Did she say 220°!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@henrywight4057 Год назад

It was snow at my house mikey

@jl5633 Год назад

Hey mike, also circulator is hitting the expansion tank

@cigbox1977 Год назад

You are not a plumber. You are a service tech. Love the H00ker jokes.

@dancingdog2790 11 месяцев назад

I dunno, his uniform shirt says "Master Plumber." Maybe both?

@jasonthejawman5442 Год назад

The best boiler, old school

@leoreyes6157 Год назад

what's messes

@leoreyes6157 Год назад

man with experience that's make plumber good work 👏

@eurospeed4532 Год назад

Love your channel

@teeg3275 Год назад

Dog whisper😂😂

@jasonthejawman5442 Год назад

Mikey your so smart

@Irishgreen56 Год назад

Excellent Services!

@mikeandrade9585 Год назад

Mike what made you go with a 0015 instead of a 007?

@adolfodelgado9361 Год назад

007 f5 not strong in off

@jeffsmith2022 Год назад

So Mikey, what do have to do to pass the test in Florida, spell cat?...

@jeffsmith2022 Год назад

@@PipeDoctor Only kidding Mike...

@stevenmcbride1936 Год назад

5 plumbers and they still didn’t see that there pumping into the expansion tank Instead of pumping away from it

@jameslang9170 Год назад

That’s a lot of work and money for a working boiler

@Guillotines_For_Globalists Год назад

What part of Florida are you considering getting licensed?

@Guillotines_For_Globalists Год назад

@@PipeDoctor Considering moving out of New York? I would. Your son may have made a good choice in that regard albeit a stupid one abandoning the family business.

@jotijhoda9053 Год назад

Good ♥️

@peterman8058 Год назад

Parts cannon!

@harshitanamiwal8962 Год назад

OMG 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@kapilsingh470 Год назад

Full support 🔥

@JAYJAYJAY53 Год назад

I have to ask how or what did you make adjustments before you had that equipment ?

@JAYJAYJAY53 Год назад

@@PipeDoctor that’s what I thought. Let me ask you what percentage of the times that you use that tool do you find problem that requires an adjustment ? I am a retired carpenter and DIY guy that can’t leave anything alone so please don’t think that I am knocking you .

@JAYJAYJAY53 Год назад

@@PipeDoctor thanks

@donnieporter7890 Год назад

The Dr is in the house. Thanks mike really appreciate your vids

@eddyvideostar Год назад

Dear Donnie: Dr will make it better.

@michaelmead5880 Год назад

Another great video!

@Samlol23_drrich Год назад

If you can make this family happy (which it seems you have) you'll have a customer for life Mikey

@adolfodelgado9361 Год назад

And if the price is right

@kingbulldog107 Год назад

is that reynold’s or that dollar store garbage?

@kingbulldog107 Год назад

ya gotta use the name brand tin foil or it wont work

@rojokkarim2576 Год назад

Excellent work

@ItsTheCostanza Год назад

Florida techs are running scared

@johnphillipsplumbing7148 Год назад

They are loading their guns,this is a stand your ground state and the good Ole boys don't like yankees,lol

@lfdvidinc Год назад

😂 no one is gonna shoot him, you should see this electronic billboard going over the border on I-84 coming out if Pennsylvania to New York. It says there will be prison time for having a loaded gun nonsense. I love those fear political comi billboards early in the morning

@lfdvidinc Год назад

I’d love to go to Florida to get away from Hocoul

@lfdvidinc Год назад

@@PipeDoctor I could just go to Pennsylvania, as I get older I wanna get away from cold winter 😂 good luck 👍

@jasonjohnsonHVAC Год назад

I moved out of WNY 6 months ago....to the great state of Texas. So nice to live in a state that doesn't tax you to death. No income tax too. Legally carry my .45 in my work truck and conceal carry everywhere

@lfdvidinc Год назад

@@jasonjohnsonHVAC right on

@lfdvidinc Год назад

@@jasonjohnsonHVAC amazing

@dlm9477 Год назад

10/04/90

@dlm9477 Год назад

@@PipeDoctor when I looked up the CP it shows 10/04/90 for the manufacturer date.

@chatrkat Год назад

Another first class service call by The Dr of Proper Hydronic functionality. You’re always right on top of the problems Mike and always educational too.