WEISS DAC 204 vs Denafrips Ares 12th vs Lampizator Baltic 4

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WEISS DAC 204 vs Denafrips Ares 12th vs Lampizator Baltic 4
A few months ago, I stumbled upon Steve Huff's review of a small Weiss 204 DAC that he enjoyed. He said it's one of his favorite DACs, especially at its price range, since it creates big, bold holographic sound with a broad and deep soundstage and very natural sound.
When I saw the review, I knew I needed to test this DAC. So, long story short, when I found out that a local hi-fi store, Koris, has this DAC, I knew I needed to borrow it. After a couple of days, what can I say? The sound is fantastic. It's big, bold, dynamic, engaging, and has excellent soundstage and holography.
Speakers - Qualio IQ Semi Open baffle ones - www.qualioaudio.com
In this video, I compare the Weiss DAC 204 to Denafrips Ares 12-th and Lampizator Baltic 4.
Please let me know if you have any questions. You can leave a comment or write me directly at - info@virtualhifi.com
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14 окт 2024

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@VirtualHiFi 11 месяцев назад

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@DagReinbott_TerraSound 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comparison! The WEISS sounds as if you were in the studio while the song being recorded. Love it!

@VirtualHiFi 8 месяцев назад

yes I love the Weiss as well ;) Thank you for sharing ;)

@ianpdavis 11 месяцев назад

Weiss 204 is definitely a punchy performer. I think the Baltic 4 still has the edge with a wider soundstage but there isn't a lot in it. Denafrips sounds just a little bit soft in comparison to the other two though.

@Jil8840 11 месяцев назад

Absolutely correct.

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Yes that is partially correct, but the soundstage in real life is bigger form Weiss and the Lampi is more analogue.

@vvmaster2010 Месяц назад

When will you conpare the Gustard R26 to these monsters (weiss and Lampizator)?

@Alexander-jc2ec 9 месяцев назад

WOWW WEISS! And this is with the stock wall wart power supply?

@VirtualHiFi 9 месяцев назад

Hi, yes it's really awesome. This video was with the SOtM 500 power supply. I now use stock one and will test SOtM once again once I do some of my designs and these them and of course record the results ;)

@dennis3779 2 месяца назад

Perfect. The Baltic 4 absolutely wins and is on my list now but will the TA dac 200 and Meitner MA3 and Mola Mola Tambaqui best it 🤔

@kineahora8736 3 месяца назад

This is very funny-I can barely tell the difference -but if I had to rate them I rate: 1) WEISS 2) Denafrips 3) Lampi Considering the prices, I would obviously get the Denafrips and put the extra money into getting those Qualios!

@superflarz 2 месяца назад

I see it exactly the same way.

@neilbrown-on4rm 10 месяцев назад

I bought the Weiss 204 Sounds better to me than my holo may 11:22

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Congrats ;)

@a29h17 4 месяца назад

I will buy the Weiss if it came in a full size chassis and quality LPS transformer considering the latest price increase.

@User_not_found_403 2 месяца назад

Ares 3rd place...I think Weiss sounded best to me, but traded places with Lamp in certain sounds. For last track, not sure if it is difference in the part of the song, but Weiss sounded more correct while the Lamp sounded twangy or off key.

@michaelmityok1001 10 месяцев назад

Good comparo but difficult to use as I can't tell what all the components used are, I see a laptop source but what about the preamp/amplifier and cables and power conditioner? I ask because I own the Baltic 4 and in my system it clearly reveals any changes, much appreciated if you could share the requested info!

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you t your comment. So the amp/preamp is this small little Aiyima A07. It is overall a very good amp so please don't be misled by the size ;) The cables are Audio mica reference series for power cords / USB and speaker cables and the interconnect is made by me using OCC copper litz wire. Power strip is a market one - I know ;) I'm building a tru high end one and waiting for the parts for it ;).

@michaelmityok1001 10 месяцев назад

@VirtualHiFi good for you to DIY. Curious why you would spend $7K on a DAC and $7K on speakers to pair with a $100 amp - and then use a simple laptop for a server! Is there a reason for these choices you made, or did you just run out of money after the DACs and speakers? FYI the major reason I like the Lampi is the tonal verisimilitude and density, like voices and instruments sound real, do you hear that in your system?

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Yes I do ;) I had many different amps in my setup and believe me that this 100$ amp with might not be the best in the world but it's better than most 5000$ ones. I am developing my own amp at the moment and having access to basically any amp that I might need I don't fee a slightest need to change it at the moment. During most recent AudioShow in Germany, I decided to play with the Aiyima instead of Naim Suopernait 3 since the sound was better as a whole. Looking at this amp as 100$ and so it mus sound 50 times worse than 5000$ amp is a mistake. ;)

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

@michaelmityok1001 10 месяцев назад

@@VirtualHiFibased on your comments and the sound quality here in this video, I am going to buy one to hear for myself! Gotta say though I would be mighty interested in your DIY amp project, like are you going Class D and op amps like this 070 or traditional Class AB with a big transformer and transistors...

@user-od9iz9cv1w 11 месяцев назад

Interesting... Based on this video and my headphones I'd say the 3 are basically interchangeable. I could try to convince myself the Lampizator has a slight edge but I think that would be expectation bias. I also think all three are just OK. I may be wrong, but I feel like these speakers have a lot more to offer than we hear from these sources.

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for your feedback. Indeed the difference is not as big in the video, but I have 2 fixes coming soon to fix that ;)

@martinslocombe2288 10 месяцев назад

I agree with you Weiss build truly excellent dacs . I picked up a beautiful Weiss 202 dac/preamp/ headphone amp A year ago from ebay , I guess its from arround 2010 but it is still working beautifully , I was tempted with the new Weiss 501 which has stella reviews but i will wait for a used one in a few years time and save for a pair of your IQ speakers

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing the story. I also find this DAC amazing. It does amazing job ;)

@deepcuttabeats356 8 месяцев назад

Through my Focal Choras, the Lampizator had the best soundstage. It sounded the most refined of the 3. The Weiss has a little bite I didn’t notice with the other 2. I own the Aries 12th, I wish I never heard the Lampizator clip 😩 Then again, it costs a LOT more. I can’t unhear the improvement lol

@VirtualHiFi 8 месяцев назад

Yes Lampizator is a very good DAC as well. Glad you like it and sorry you can't I hear it now 😜

@RayBeck-e3s 10 месяцев назад

Lampi, Weiss has good bass but the Lampiztor is more natural and best musical flow

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing your comment ;)

@xeniavader 6 месяцев назад

this is a great video, thanks for doing it. like so many DACs I've owned over the years, the differences are pretty small. I have a very expensive system using a Topping d90 DAC and it's great. AB testing VS my Lampizator GA is VERY close.... Comparted to the DAVE.... very very close again... IDK, I want DACs to be magical, but I'm not sure they are past a certain price point. Don't get me wrong, there is a difference, but not worth the cost of going ultra high end.

@xfloodcasual8124 3 месяца назад

They can be magical, but you need to get to a DIY level to do it. The components used in these DACs are typically industrial in nature and cannot express the next level of sound.

@ColocasiaCorm 11 месяцев назад

Ares sounds clearer than others?

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Ares while sounding quite analogue for the money is at a different level. While still being amazing DAC for 1000Euro it cant compete with lampi and Weiss but that doesn't mean much since with better PSU Weiss is 4 times the proce of Ares ;)

@ColocasiaCorm 8 месяцев назад

Man now i think Weiss sounds best

@ColocasiaCorm 8 месяцев назад

Weiss is tonal better but lampi is harmonically better?

@kobiljaglava3138 4 месяца назад

Weiss outsmoked both and it's a entry level from this brand. Try Lavry QUINTESSENCE :)

@streetcarver1020 9 месяцев назад

The weiss sound is very similar to my original Mytek brooklyn thank you!

@VirtualHiFi 9 месяцев назад

thank you for sharing. I have not had a pleasure to hear the Mytek Brooklyn.

@okumiclubrt 9 месяцев назад

I like Weiss sound the most. BTW, Ares II for $1,000; Weiss for $3,500; Baltic 4 for $ 6,800. Ares II make good sound for the price.

@VirtualHiFi 9 месяцев назад

So do I 😏 Yes for the money the Ares is great. for more money Weiss is stunning

@tejkarangehlot4741 11 месяцев назад

Plz suggest streamer+dac+preamp under $1200

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Combined ? tha's hard. I'd go for Ayima A07 for the Amp - 200$ with good Power suppy. I'd add Denafrips Ares 2 and stream music from Laptop / phone and later on stretch the budget a bit for a streamer.

@tejkarangehlot4741 10 месяцев назад

@@VirtualHiFi Thank you sir 🙏

@barrybrennan2135 11 месяцев назад

Via this video at least, I wouldn't bet on any blindtesting! Maybe different IRL.

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for your comment ;)

@유프리-v4h 5 месяцев назад

Lampizator Baltic 4 the best.

@soulfunkjazz 11 месяцев назад

16:00 16:52 17:44 21:33 22:33 23:33

@steves6614 11 месяцев назад

Love the way you put these videos together! I'm looking for a new DAC to go with my dennis had 300B w/WestingHouse tubes and Decware HDT mk 2 speakers. I don't have the luxury of trying multiple DAC, your videos are very helpful.

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for your comment and great feedback. It gives me plenty of energy to push forward and do more videos ;)

@steves6614 10 месяцев назад

@@VirtualHiFi Coffee coming your way

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you very much once again ;)

@VirusForPrez 11 месяцев назад

The Weiss is dancing all around the other 2 dacs , ...

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing your comment. Indeed I belive you might be right ;)

@jc51373 8 месяцев назад

Lampi is the better dac.Who's singing at the 9:30 marker?

@chrisp.916 6 месяцев назад

Monsoons (feat. Le June) - Johannes Bornlof

@kineahora8736 3 месяца назад

Typical modern pop sound-exceptionally breathy technique-not really on the vocal cords like a real opera singer… It’s like everyone these days thinks they’re singing songs by Jobim with that Brazilian style…

@rhphotocdn 4 месяца назад

That Weiss DAC is awesome, but $5000 CDN, ouch!

@JingoLoBa57 5 месяцев назад

Very hard to tell here even with good headphones Baltic more bloom Weiss more definition Denafrips more digital shallow.

@VirtualHiFi 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing your feedback :)

@aleksandarstojceski3139 7 месяцев назад

Last track actually weiss sounded better than Baltic

@VirtualHiFi 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Yes Overall I sold baltic and bought the Weiss, since the soundstage and dynamics that was unmatched :)

@REX4340 11 месяцев назад

👍👍

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for your comment and Sub ;)

@MrYannette91 9 месяцев назад

Weisss❤

@VirtualHiFi 9 месяцев назад

Yesss ;)

@claudioreig8620 10 месяцев назад

Can’t listen differences! RU-vid sound is compressed!

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

The difference on YT is not as big as in the reality but I can still hear the shifts between decides. Did you use headphones ?

@claudioreig8620 10 месяцев назад

@@VirtualHiFi no! Hifi

@vvmaster2010 Месяц назад

Lampi is more musical and refi ned.

@soulfunkjazz 11 месяцев назад

Schiit bifrost 2/64

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing

@Jil8840 11 месяцев назад

Weiss 204 the best. Denafrips the worst.

@VirtualHiFi 10 месяцев назад

Tank you for your opinion and sharing your comment ;)

@delicate_hifi 10 месяцев назад

Exactly!

@chenji1276 8 месяцев назад

denafrips treble is a big problem

@kineahora8736 3 месяца назад

@@chenji1276 at first I couldn’t tell- but particularly the track that had a lot of piano playing in the high register near the end, showed the attack and the overall sound on the Denafrips to be kind of sibilantly fuzzed out. Whereas the Weiss did a great job with this. I think the lampizator also sounded a bit unnatural on this Piano- but not as bad as the Denafrips