You and Mike saved my ass. I really didn't want to send it back, especially with such an easy fix. Found the same wire and connector not connected. Recruited my wife (smaller hands and arms), followed your video, remained patient and..........now it fires right up first time I push the start button. Thanks for taking the time to make the video, and posting it.
@@805ROADKING You said the generator was only 120v and Mike also said the plug was 120v 20A twist lock. You say it would run the washer and dryer? Washer maybe but not the dryer. Unless yours is different they take 220v. Also do you have a gas stove? An electric stove it's going to require 220v. Something doesn't make sense here. In any case nice installation. Well done on the fix. Too bad they haven't fixed that problem in three or four years.
THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!!! I Would not have been able to fix the EXACT ISSUE…(S) basturds… Yeah, brand new, Choke inoperative… OVERVOLTAGE… with nothing plugged in. Found yet ANOTHER connector behind the panel unplugged… Unreal…. Tried calling customer service and got a SMARTASS lady that told me she was just an answering service. Told her I’ll let Cummins know this when I call them on Monday. Again lucky I’m half way good at working on stuff. Fixed the issues myself, BUT ONLY BY YOUR HELP… THANK YOU!!! I can’t believe only 500 people have watched your video. My local Camper place has sold a lot of these. I ordered mine 3 months ago. I’m going to stop in and see how the ‘sales’ have been. Obviously EVERY ONE is like this. Thank you again Guys! Happy New Year!
Glad it was a easy fix, very quiet unit, any small engine mechanic fans already know Mike does good work, my panel allowed me to go with an interlock, but I like the load center you went with
Properly cared for and broken in these units can last for several thousand hours. Food trucks use various Honda inverter clones and really rack up the hours. I believe this is a close cousin to the Predator 3,500 but yours has more features like the fuel shutoff & remote start. Modern inverter gensets are quiet, fuel efficient, and put out clean, well-regulated power. What's missing is the fascination of seeing old iron performing it's 1800 rpm magic behind an antique diesel engine. I'm on the west coast (Los Angeles) and I'm always on the lookout for antique engines/generators/tools. Some interesting finds at estate sales from time to time. Never know what someone has tucked inside a messy garage their next of kin needs to get rid of.
Great video. So glad you found out the problem and got it fixed. However If Joe person gets this and is not mechanically and or electrically inclined they are screwed. At the cost of this machine they should have come out with a in house fix by now. They should pay to have it fixed by a local shop. Is there anything Mike can not do? You two are very talented guys. Thanks for showing us the fix.
Hey mike nice work you want to come and wire up one of those for my house and my parents house although we will have some 240 we are going to get large enough ;generators to run everything central air and heat and all. Glad you found that service bulletin road king
_Sweet! I just got mine delivered yesterday. That first thing I'm checking before anything else is done... like oil and gas. Hell, I might even do it before unboxing the Westinghouse, I just cut the hole out from the bottom! What, could happen!_
A note to Westinghouse about my iGen4500 junk. Bought this boat anchor new about the date I mentioned above. Choke problems right out of the box in that is was sticking closed. Called support and was sent a replacement choke control. Installed it and seemed to fix the problem until two days later I have the same problem again. Called support again and was told to take it to a service center...............TAKE MY BRAND NEW MACHINE TO GET FIXED!! Gimme a break! I took it upon myself since at this point to find the problem myself and when I took it further apart I found a connector that was not locked together when it was built. I locked the connector together and that fixed the problem. Jump ahead to day before yesterday. The genny ran all day while being used intermittently and it was perfect. The next day, or yesterday, hit the start button and it started immediately and just as quick shut down. Tried several times with the same results. So this morning I took it apart enough to determine that the choke was still working properly, and it is. I checked the fresh oil, it is perfect. Full of fresh fuel, nothing I can see wrong. I called support again and talked with some idiot named Jaffe the quickly started fallowing a script when I told him the story. He asked "How many times have you changed the oil?" I told him I've changed it once.............the thing only has about 15 hrs or so on it. He said "According to the manual, you should have changed it twice by now." I replied IT ONLY HAS 15 HOURS ON IT AND IT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN STORED AT ROOM TEMPS. I went on to tell him that as long as it ifs full of oil it doesn't know the difference between oil with 1 hr or 1000 hrs, that will not shut it down. He said, "Sir, I'm just telling you what the manual says." Then this incompetent moron asked me what kind of fuel is in it right now and I told him it was high octane, no alcohol canned fuel like we use it all our small engines. He asked "Did you drain the old fuel out before putting new fuel in?" I replied that the previous fuel wasn't in it very long and besides, that last time I used it I purposely ran it out of fuel. He asked "Did you drain the carburetor bowl?" I said no..........that's why I ran it out of fuel. When it stops because of lack of fuel, the bowl is dry. He then told me that there will still be fuel in the bowl at that point, so you are incorrect. I let him know that I've been a gas/diesel tech for 35 years and this clown told me that cars and generators are different! I still have a junk $800 piece of crap that I cannot depend on. I got of the phone with this person that has NO idea what he is talking about and messed with it a bit longer and noticed that right after it starts, the overload indicator comes on and it then shuts down. I didn't notice that before. Not to mention that I did not get the mickey mouse charger for it when it was new and have since had to replace the battery because I could not charge it and this thing does not charge it's own battery?? How stupid. I emailed about that and was asked my reply email to provide proof of purchase and a picture of the serial number. Really? I did it anyway and emailed it all in and have gotten zero response on that issue. I bought a small trickle maintainer for the new battery. This idiot "Jaffe" that I spoke with made no attempt to help me diagnose my problem, just read a script and told me I was incorrect about how a carb works. What are the qualifications for his job anyway?? This thing has been a thorn in my side since day one and you so called support department is incompetent if "Jaffe" is representative of it. My opening line of this note is not entirely accurate, this thing is not big enough to anchor my boat and it's too big to go in the trash can, so I don't know what to do with it.
Your must have a small house. We have TWO breaker panels in the houee + one outside! We have 350A service (one 200A and one 150A main breaker). The 150A breaker feeds a small panel which feeds the irrigation pump, and a transfer switch panel in the garage that powers about 1/2 the circuits in the house (kitchen minus the stove, lights and many of the 120 volt outlets. The 200A panel feeds the kitchen stove, the washer, dryer, hot water tank, A/C units, and the rest of the lights and outlets. The transfer panel is a Generac unit, connected to the propane back up unit outside. We now also have solar panels and a backup battery charged by the solar (similar to, but NOT a TESLA power wall). I've never seen a transfer panel like yours before. That's a nice idea individual transfer switches rather than one big ass one + circuit breakers. Most manual transfer switches use TWO DPST switches interlocked so only one can be ON at a time. But I've also never seen DPDT breaker switches either. (Are any of those 240 volt?) That plug in the generator looks like a NEMA 3-30 or 4-30 twist lock (30A).
@ 15:25, that old green Vornado fan, my grandmother had that same fan when I was a kid. It was pre-WWII, 1938 if I remember correctly. Still worked great into the 1970's when the phenolic blade broke from foreign object damage.
I love my igen4500, never had the choke issue either. Bought it gently used with 12hours an a 25ft. extension cord included for $500. It was used too power a vendors craft trailer at craft shows til she quit doing it.
Yeah it seems like a great machine, that's why I bought it!! I was just a little disappointed that after spending a grand I had to tear it apart to get it to run right!!☺
You said it wont run your central AC could've try, maybe you got and old system, you should try a mini split on one of the room to hang out, that's what I did and it works great. 👍👌
I just bought one for my camper and am excited to use it... although the digital data center on mine isn't working. Oddly enough on my Westinghouse 9500DF the same thing happened and suddenly after about 1 hour of running it started working. I checked all the connections and everything appears OK, but well see.
Thank you so much! I just bought one of these from HD. Did the exact thing as yours. Followed your steps, perfect... It does look like mine was never plugged in from the factory.
Thanks for the video. I got a chance to test mine out for real two days ago -- California is having the rolling blackouts during the heat wave we're having/ It started right up. Then I flipped my transfer switches on and that was it. I have it like you do -- all 120 volt, no 220. So I dont have ac or hot water or the cooktop/oven. To power those things I'd need a lot bigger generator and burn more gas and noisier. (I don;t have natural gas or propane so I can't do a genset like the Generac).
The display IS flickering. You're eyes can't tell, but the camera catches it because it uses a "rolling shutter". Your friend (the guy that introduced me to you) Smarter Everyday, did a damned good video about it.!👍
Nice!!! Glad the thing was figured out for ya!!! I like those old school fans. I need to hit up some yard sales or something n see if I can find a couple.
That is great setup King , Good repair on the generator to man ! My Champion has that same box for the stepper motor , I took a good look at it in the vid . ENJOYED !!
Looks like a problem between engineering and distribution. Something happens to cause the connection to slip. If that's how mine shows up, Thanks in advance for the tutorial!
Good reason for the panel is to prevent back powering the line coming from the power company. The heavy hitters on 120 volt systems would be items with a motor or a heat strip. Refrigerators, vacuum cleaners, washing machines are in this class. To see what you need, multiply 120 X the amps to get watts. Ie., Fridge might be 7 amps times 120 volts = 840 watts. Add up all your heavy hitters and subtract from your genset Max watts to get an idea of what to buy. Just don't run everything at once if you get close to the rated watts.
Nice generator setup. I've been looking to get a generator for my house. Also liked the Ford pickup in the driveway... looks to be a 1964 with a 223 inline 6 cylinder, if the hood badges are correct. I also have a 1964, with a 223. It has a flareside bed.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video it was very informative. I don’t know who the idiot is that gave it a thumbs down. Probably a FedEx driver. I had the UPS driver slam mine down 8 inches in the truck right in front of me then drop it down off the dolly so hard it rolled the box over on its top. The styrofoam was all cracked up inside but the inverter looks good. God only knows how many times the morons dropped it before the idiot that delivered it to me. Mine surges up and down when you start it for a bit so I wonder if I have some sort of choke issue too but it always seems to start then levels out after a bit.
I JUST CAME ACROSS YOUR CHANNEL!!! maybe you can help me. I bought the same generator but duel fuel model and wanted it to connect to my house. I called a local licensed electrician to get this hooked up. So as he asking me questions we got to the outlet types on the generator and when I told him it only had 2 110v 20amp standard outlets and 1 110v 30amp rv plug. He then said "there's no 220v twist lock'" i told him no,and I don't use any 220v in my house. He then told me it doesn't matter if I don't use 220v the generator has to have a 220v outlet to power the 2 sides of my box. I then explained ive seen I couple of videos where people cut the end off a extension cord and wired on a 220v twist lock by jumping 1 hot into both hot legs just to get power to both sides of my box. Again I knew it wouldn't make 220v's but it would make 110v's on both sides of the panel. Could you possibly explain how you got this done or would your electrician friend Mike be open to chatting with me. Any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!! AND YES ...... I HIT THE SUBSCRIBE BUTTON! THANKS BUDDY
Sounds like you just got an Electrician that didn't want to do the job!! There is nothing tricky or special about that generator!! Find another Electrician!! Your gonna need a Transfer Switch like the one I used ( www.amazon.com/dp/B005FQJD7K?ref=exp_805roadking_dp_vv_d ) or a Generator Interlock Kit so you don't kill any Lineman working on the Powerlines!!☺
you could put that in the bed of the truck, put something over it with just enough for air, and it would be virtually silent. I saw a guy put a bunch of boards over one and it deflected the sound where it couldn't be heard
i have 3 genset 2 pulsar and 1 Westinghouse same genset onan puts there name on it to .i made my one wire to pear up wire them up on my house in the high rocky mt i levee them parred up and as i need more power i turn one or 2 more on my oldest one has 4000hrs on it
Just purchased one of these and have only ran on propane for a few minutes. I know you is gas only. 1. I noticed with no load on it it mine seems to surge a little, put a load on it hair dryer on it and it runs smooth consistent speed. Anyone one with this experience? 2. If the unit is running and you turn it off at the switch, does the propane continue to flow in to carb/motor? I know you are suppose to turn off the propane according to the manual. 3. Can the unit run if the battery is dead or you don't have a battery? In other word use the pull start? Thanks for any answers. Really enjoy your videos!
I'm looking at something that'll automatically switch my lights and 2 rooms to my inverter, and a manual switch for everything else. I have a 2500W 240V pure sine wave inverter, several deep cycle batteries, only one solar panel at the moment. Generator has a battery charge output that I plan on connecting to my inverter batteries, so anything on the inverter will still be powered when the generator is running without having to switch their mains to the generator. Lights and a couple of computers on the inverter, everything else on the generator. It'll probably take me another year or so before I get to this, too many other things to do.
Hey man. My gen keeps shutting off. And it says overload, eventho there is nothing plugged in. No circuit breaker was tripped, and i troed to reset it, still nothing... i really need help plz.. lmk... it runs for about 10 mins max, then Automatic shuts off
Switch it to C SCALE ... You are missing all of the lower FREQ's on A Scale . The A-weighted sound level discriminates against low frequencies, in a manner similar to the response of the ear. In this setting, the meter primarily measures in the 500 to 10,000 Hz range. It is the weighting scale most commonly used for OSHA and DEQ regulatory measurements. The C-weighted sound level does not discriminate against low frequencies and measures uniformly over the frequency range of 30 to 10,000 Hz. This weighting scale is useful for monitoring sources such as engines, explosions, and machinery. The sound levels measured with these two weightings have units of “dBA” and “dBC”, respectively.
If anyone wants to know that lock plug on the wall is a L14-30R (Receptacle) and the cable is a L14-30P (Plug). I use this style for my welder hookups in case I ever have the need to weld from a generator.
I purchased one in February this year its been doing well, tried starting it two days ago it wouldn't happen, instead fuel is running everywhere, waiting a week now for Westinghouse to ok warranty work
Boring!!!i thought you was ganna bodge it up a put a bit of wire or even better an old car choke cable sticking out the side lol.trust Mike to find the fault and fix it,great vlog and im not late for work,cheers :o)
I have this gen also. I was wondering if you or Mike can tell me how you got the 120v from this gen? I checked the TT30r with my meter and got 60v from ground to the left prong and 60v on the other. Only way i got 120v is across both. How do I wire that to a 120v breaker?
Is that a custom made extension cord? 30amp RV plug on one end and a 4 prong twist lock on the other? I'm needing a cord like this and I dont want to use an adapter plug....Thanks!!
It would be better to make it so the generator turns on automatically when voltage on the mains is below 100V or above 120V to secure appliances from overvoltage as well as automatic backup power if blackout happens. It still can't secure your computer in case of a black out, too slow.
@Josh Kilen Yeah, I didn't receive an email this time. But I did receive a notification from RU-vid on my phone. I'm going to "unclick" the notification bell here on his channel, then click it again. Usually that works.
@@crazyfvck that won't help you this time it's on Google's and it's not on RU-vid being crazy they literally without warning canceled all email notifications for all everyone.
Hi 805Roadking - I've wondered about that generator. Are you happy with it other than the choke issue? Is it pretty quiet? We found your channel from the comment you left on another page. We'd really appreciate if you'd give our channel a look if you're not already following us and have a minute. Thanks in advance!
Sweet video and nice that it wasn’t too complicated. Hopefully that’ll help others out. Also, Roadking is there a way to get in contact with you via email?
Thanks Justin!! I gave it to you in the last two videos you left comments on!! Check your s p a m!! Or if you can't find it there go to my ABOUT page on my channel!!☺
I'm used to these problems on random crap around the house but not something that should be actually reliable! Dangit. Such a silly thing to need to deal with, a connection at fault!
Excuse me please, this is brand new and already having problems? They should give you a brand new one. I hear it's supposed to be an awesome generator. It seems better than the Champion 3500 dual fuel and that other brand 4500 watt dual fuel I just don't remember it's name.
I’m disappointed. 4reasons: 1. A unit approaching 5kwh peak output should hv a 240/250V output. It’s the best way2 energize both sides of a hm breaker box. 2. She is noisy. 3. No fuel injection. 4. No Bluetooth app control.
There's always that one %$&#! screw....The Amazon driver dropped my brand new Porta-cool shop cooler off the ramp right in front of me. I couldn't believe it.
I have security camera footage of a UPS driver just tossing a package onto my porch with no care in the world. And our local post office carrier acts like she's in a Nascar race, runs the package to my door, then runs back to her delivery vehicle.
I disagree! Glue is not the answer. That connector was not properly seated at the factory. The blue marker is just that, a marker to show the connection was made. Longer wires would help. It is hard to make things foolproof because fools are so ingenious! And lazy! Poor workmanship!
@@805ROADKING Maybe his Chinee cousin? I'm surprised it doesn't have "No user serviceable parts inside" written on it which is merely a challenge to me......HA!
