Lets stop reaching and just saying anything.. its a decent song and the beat is aight. There are wayyy better WSG tracks then that from his previous albums... stop man
@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI He just said ONE of the best. There’s a limit of how many best songs people can have, now? Plus Kitchen Lights being overall the top 2 most played song of the album on streaming platforms and beloved by critics is really telling about how people view the song.
This isn’t a good album. Westside Gunn sounds incredibly awkward over 808s and stacked hi hats and always has. This is nowhere near their best. Alot of the production felt stale too. Coping hard if you disagree
It’s probably the first time I’m feeling disconnected with DEHH (maybe except Beezy). To me this album is just bad except just for 4-5 tracks. I like trap, but these beats are very low quality, WSG’s rapping was awful on it (slow and not on beat), and the album is overall all over the place.
Nah those traps jawns grew on me . Especially Steve and Jonny . I think I’m just use to the new watered down clean trap ish that been running the mainstream for years now..but this that early 2000s dirty trap o holics ish bruh those jawn goo crazzyy
My expectations for this album were high because of how good Pray For Paris was but it was such a let down. The trap flows don’t sound good from Gunn, the DJ Drama yelling isn’t good, and it’s not cohesive either. It legitimately sounds like just some random songs thrown together for a DJ Drama tape, and that’s very disappointing considering that Westside Gunn can curate projects
we don't need trap wsg the problem with this album is that he has 1 trap flow and a terrrrrible selection of trap beats. idk what they are on. i don't think wsg lost it because everything on here that isnt trap is some of his best stuff ever but the album as a whole is so bad
This is a fun ass project. Also, JID was cool, but Conway on “Kostas” was easily the standout, the way he kept changing his flows was insane. I swear Conway could’ve rapped on that beat for a week straight 🔥🔥🔥
I’m with Beezy on this one. I don’t think I will be returning to this one as much there’s no denying that Kitchen Lights is one of the best songs I’ve heard this year and JID is going to steal the show every single time.
I’m with Ken and Rod on this one. At first I was thrown off, but the more I listen to it, the more I really like it. I get why a lot of people don’t like it tho
i really cant get behind this one the majority of this sounds really lackluster imo and west just doesnt go well over trap beats. i can easily just hit 1 of the 100+ gucci tapes from back in the day to get my fix with exponentially better beats and rapping 🤷♂ this and 10 are easily the bottom of his discog for me
My least favorite West album . Beats weren't hittin, Lyrically lazy for too much of the album, way too lengthy. It's an insufferably disjointed project that I knew I won't be returning to .
This was a extremely difficult listen for me. It took me 3 or 4 listens just to get through it. I felt like my ears were being waterboarded. If this was his "Gangsta Grillz" mixtape hosted by DJ Drama I could give it pass for how Southern influenced it was and how bad the sequencing and mixing of this project is; but to have this serve as a sequel to one of your most acclaimed albums "Pray for Paris"; nope! I don't have an issue with Eastcoast rappers going over trap beats (Nas, Jadakiss, Dave East, Conway, and Benny the Butcher do it extremely well), I have an issue with rhyming off beat on busy high hats and 808's. For an artist with such as signature sound and consistent discography it's strange for an artist to completely abandon that foundation on their farewell album or swan song.
I see what Westside is doing. He already proved he can curate avant-garde “underground”. Now he’s preparing to curate avant-garde trap “commercial”. This is the first attempt.
I feel that's his point. He tryna flex like I can do what yall do better than yall and yall can't do what I do at all. West drops soo much he's earned the right to make this project especially when he still sprinkled in his usually shit on the album. Fans are spoiled and fickle for trashing him for this album
he actually said in an interview that he was basically just having fun and hes gonna go back to the classic sound with people like madlib and alchemist because so many new people are being put on to him from his features on stuff like donda and utopia
that's my problem with it: i don't think the trap sounds as "avante-garde" as his boom bap selections. he has an interesting ear but i don't think that came thru in the album for me - like it usually does.
I like trap beats but these were not hitting. They sounded like 2010’s trap beats. Mad dated. Also West did not sound good rapping on them because he was doing that half time rapping and his voice and flow started to get annoying. The rest of the songs were really great though.
Before I watch this. Please don’t cap and act like this was good. Westside Gunn is my fav. And it’s not that he did a trap album. It’s that he can’t rap over trap beats.
Everybody hating on gun going trap are nerds, go listen to some old Gucci Mane mixtapes or just shit back then on Dj fletch tapes, that's the era he was tapping into. the real raw trap shit. Yall to used to certain pockets on certain beats. His given the fans boombap for the past 20 or so albums 😂 and now everybody dissapointed when he wants to try something new smh. The fans or just people that don’t create art really be the ones calling everything trash especially when they understand it. I didn’t really fw the album first listen but after a few listens i get it.
Stop! When an artist who has been doing boom Bap his entire career and suddenly decides to be "different" and uses Trap beats to please today's new fans is ridiculous. Did you ever see Wu or Gangstarr ever doing this shit? Imagine a Wu-Tang or Gangstarr album full of trap beats! Long time fans would be heated, but then again they would never ever do that. Its not about not trying to be different, its about doing something that tailors to your style. Gunn is a grimy cat from NY, and him rhyming over some weak ass trap garbage beats is not him. Him trying to do something different that is "not him" was not a good move. To me I feel he fell victim to these industry sharks because "trap" is the thing and bring in the sales. This reminds me of when the Black Eyed Peas used to be real dope, then over night turned pop.
Just cuz it’s trap doesn’t mean it’s good, there can be trash trap beats which most of these were. His flow was also atrocious and borderline offbeat on most of this shit
There was a 8.5/10 album in here if it was cut down to about 12 tracks. The first half of this project went so hard but really took a step down at the end. That being said I think the boom bap purists are giving this project way too much hate. There's several certified bangers on here
I really love how knowledgable y’all are about hip hop, I learn a lot from ya. But still, not knowing who giggs is and where he’s from… UK legend. I’m not from the UK, but I feel like you should know of him at least. Diversification brings flavour. Other than that, love what y’all put out. I’m behind on west’s albums, but I’ll catch up. Always love y’all’s take on things thi
I will admit I'm a hater of trap music. I just hate it. I will alway hate trap music. So this album to me is trash. Outside of a few tracks that are not "trap" I did like but not enough for me to enjoy this project, so to me this album is his worst by far and easily forgettable. However, I feel this album will probably be his most successful do to all the new gen trap heads, so congrats to him. If this indeed will be his last project he went out with a dud for me. I'll just continue to jam his older projects instead.
I was always a Griselda fan but their recent projects have been slowing down for sure imo. I don’t know if it’s because they’ve over saturated their catalog releasing albums every 6 months and I’m desensitised or what
Them shout outs from random people praising Gunn were pure cringe Nevertheless, not being Gunn's fan at all this album was okay and more enjoyable than his other work Features were dope though Especially Chloe
I really enjoyed this album on first listen. Kinda surprised I did. It flowed really well for me. I also completely understand why folks don’t like it. Appreciate the review as always guys!
I didn’t like westside on trap beats. I feel like it threw off his flow and I felt like he was rapping in slow motion for an hour fifteen. The best overall song on the project to me was mamas prime time and that was the only song that had a beat that fit Westside perfectly.
the majority of this album wasnt for me. not because i don’t enjoy trap music but because i cant find the appeal of west on traps beats. with that being said, i think gunn has earned being able to have fun with what hes doing. and if this is what he wanted to release so be it. i saved the 10 tracks with the usual griselda instrumentals and enjoy those. he has released so much work he has nothing more to prove imo.
I ain’t seen enough talk about the bad beat selection. The Miguel da plug beats were mixed terribly and sounded from 2013. Kostas is proof he can shine on a good trap beat
Its always funny how JUST as an artist or movement is about to bring everyone to their side- they switch up & completely lose the fanbase AND the new fanbase wont accept their attempts at crossing over. Never fails. SMH. Boot Camp Click Rawkus Records Soulquarian movement. U HAVE to stick to your guns and keep going. It’ll all work out if u stick to your shit. It wouldve been dope to hear Ross over Conductor or Daringer beat. Or Ty singing over a grimy spooky beat. With that said, still love the Griselda movement. Just stick to yall sound! But its dope to see them successful & living life big.
You wouldn’t catch me wearing any of that shit Westside wears. Hell nah I might as well go all the way and wear umbrellas and shit you see in the fashion shows
Not even a LITTLE GOOD bro. I respect folks opinions but you can’t tell a day one that this album is good. This is the WORST release of their entire tenure. And I fear the casuals will take to this and tell me I’m bugging
@trevorhandberry2158 If other folks like it that's cool. Personally, from DunnHill to LL Bool Gunn is the worst run of songs I ever heard on any Griselda release.
I didnt love it as other projects from him but at the end of the day, this is a like a "20 for them and 1 for me". He wanted to make a different album for himself.
I agree with Beezy on how some of the features were placed. I actually wouldve loved to hear Est Gee over a conductor or Daringer beat but I see what Gunn was goin on this album. Everything from the dj tags with legendary mixtape djs from the south to the sound quality was trying to capture the energy of that era in trap music. It def grew on me.
This might be the only Westside Gunn album that I didn’t enjoy from start to finish. I like that he’s experimenting with trap, but the songs just didn’t do it for me.
First listen I didn’t like it because I was expecting a Pray for Paris sequel.. but after a few listens I absolutely love it. Front to back. It’s an incredible album. Westside the goat
I was really thrown off at first but halfway through, I was like "Oh I see what he's doing here." and I started to like it for what it was not what I was expecting it to be.
I liked this project . I prefer the 1st tape but this one was still nice Good to hear new FlyGod again . Y’all should check out that earl x alc project
