WESTWORLD Season 3 Episode 4, Breakdown, Theories, and Details You Missed! Who Is Charlotte Revealed 

lame... copy.... of all the choice...

I told everyone the host identity was not the big reveal. Somethings coming. I think it might even be time trickery again, but with the mirror world instead. Serac/AI are up to something.

I’ve been getting this feeling we were looking at two timelines, but instead I think we are looking at two worlds, the real and the mirror world.

It's either that or THAT was the biggest reveal and they just got it out of the way so the rest of the season can play out.

I think Serac gave us the clue when he essentially told us that Paris no longer exists. I'm guessing that the corporeal world no longer exists in the way we know it. Instead people are plugged in to a world (matrix like) that looks futuristic and appealing while the real world basically goes to shit. Lol this comment may age badly at the end of the current series. Looking forward to finding it.

Matrix vibes 4real

I've been thinking & saying the same thing. Smith: "Me, me, me, me, me" Dolores: "Me too" Ofc the Doloreses aren't exact copies. We saw that with Hale (or did we?). Nolan has spoken about how if one made an exact copy then sent it on a slightly different path, the consequences may result in a radical change in character, or identity for the copy. There may be a Dolores vs Dolori scenario coming our way. The clues were there from the start. The opening title sequence is full of 'em.

Me too

Not even little bit. LOL!

Satevo actually, ALT SHIFT X called out

I'm not buying that the one in Charllote is Dolores due to the last episode they seemed very different with Charlotte being emotionally needy towards Dolores

@@mayeezy254 Buy it. The one in Charlotte started out as OG Delores but when she killed the predator she "remembered what it was like" to be her.

me neither. it's so obvious and right under the nose that i couldn't saw it. why risk using other hosts who may not have the same goal as you (like Teddy or Maive) when you can do it yourself

She took one. Bernard. The red one. Other ones were empty.

amazing

holy shit.... i think i agree

I truly wish this is the real script made for the show this season. It sounds so good.

Except in this episode we see Serac interacting with people, even killing one with a gun. Unless this is all in a simulation that means he's real. But...yeah... could be a simulation.

I thought Serac was a construct too til this episode when we saw him interact with the real world and kill a guy. And I'm not so sure that the whole world we see is a digital construct like the Matrix because if that were so, then why would Serac show up as holograms and why would those glasses be needed if everything was a digital construct. Maybe to ground it in reality in order to fool those that arent aware yet? IDK. this show is so interesting, you can't rule anything out until they say so.

Doesn't look like anything to me 🤯

Yep I agree. The way I see it is, Maeve will get to Dolores & try to reason with her & show her that she has OPTIONS besides just exterminating humanity. Here’s my theory for the setup: They could work together to bring Rehoboam down, rather than focusing on those who helped to create it or individuals. Except for Insight, the companies will obviously have to be dismantled from the inside. But something tells me that halfway through this mission, Dolores will turn on Maeve & claim there’s no other way (or some crap like she always says), forcing Maeve’s hand to try & stop her. I highly doubt Serac=Dolores as so many ppl are claiming, he is legit. I can see a twist being that they’re actually in Future World. The REAL WORLD exists, but civilization isn’t as advanced anymore due to widespread wars, famines, & pestilence. The clip revealing the destruction of Paris could be used to cement this theory down the line. That’s why most of the rich reside in Future World, because they don’t believe the real world has anything left to offer them. What’s left is basically major cities in a post-apocalyptic state or being forced to live in the wilderness. Anyway that’s one possibility 🤷🏼‍♀️ Or it’s actually real & as advanced as they’re showing, with the majority of humanity enslaved to technology, except for those who live in third world countries or off the grid. I can see most ppl basically resigning to their fates & telling Dolores to eff off and that no one asked her to save them lol or she actually is able to save everyone after coming to her senses & ensuring Rehoboam is destroyed for the GOOD of mankind. The plot could go SO many ways!!

its just you

This. I hate it. 😒

Delos - Delores

It's a simulation.

Dolores Dolores already is the main one

i was thinking the same. dolores has such obnoxious attitude that eventually her allies will turn against her. remember teddy killed his self in ss2 out of intolerance of her

Or Dolores could just kill the other host Dolores.

I think thats impossible , if anyones gonna turn on her it’s definitely gonna be Caleb.

@@prouser7150 yeah calebs gonna side bernard

the best thing that happend in this episode for XO fans lol

Most likely. But I have a feeling Serac has a few more cards up his sleeve. Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.

@@jake57 Serac has this big ass God-like computer on his side, that should help him out a bit - anybody would sell their grandma for extra GPU these days

@Aidan That exactly what they want you to know but I can assure you, Westworld is really a misleading fucking TV Show I have ever watch, plot twists baby, you better watch out !

Mike Jones oooh didn’t see that coming, should be interesting 🧐

"Unbovered"

Do you think it's a meta comment that those Falcons are fake?

@@duderama6750 interesting, iv always thout the falcon programme was all bs... I remember watching a launch and I just felt the footage was artificial, convincing high grade CGI. And that, whole car in space gimmick pfff😒

Ikr. That's the irony of it 😭

That’s one of the fundamental questions of humanity since the beginning of philosophy “does freewill really exist?” Until these days, even in the scientific community, there’s no consensus about it

@@souquiant5206 free will comes from conciousness and self control over your impulses (which can be seen as your genetic code). And this is said in the series

Joker I’ve read that before but evidently the average human being doesn’t have that control

But that would relieve humans from responsibility for their actions, and I don't think that is the case

I think it's all bullshit and they want us to believe they are all Dolores, but it would make sense to think that the one inside Charlotte's body is Teddy.

Thank you. That bar;/ theater is gorgeous

I lived in your country for a couple of months and I'm happy to see some of the places I loved while watching my favorite serie! You really are lucky to live in a such beautiful city

wow that's pretty cool!

Zi jie Lim thank you!

It's the same way Bernard still has visions of his son, it's her "core" it's the first step from transcending being a robot to being a human. She knows it's not real yet she still loves her, I know that in all my studies humans are just atoms yet I still love my entire family of atoms.

@@You_work_tomorrow wait but isnt it arnolds son and not bernards?

exactly! how could she be conscious and still chase a fake story?

She can know its fake and still have those feeling of love that were so ingrained into her cornerstone.

Did you even watch s2? This was her whole plot lol

100 years ago: The future is so lazy, they have machines that walk for them aka an "automobile"

Lazy is the wrong interpretation; they're just honest with themselves about how poor Humans are at doing things. Computers are superior at every task, including aiming a gun, or diagnosing a patient (e3)

@@pete2389 horse and buggy ..... horse and plow

Na it's just cuz they acknowledge that on their own they have Storm Trooper aim.

It's just a plot device guys. Dolores or Stubbs etc doesn't have it.

I thought of the same thing too!

If he is a host though, wouldn't it be easy for Dolores to put him on her side by changing his code? That would probably be easier than making him lose his mind to have control of Delos

Dolores is dabbling in revenge with a hint of hubris. She wants MIB to suffer, so she wants him to go crazy in the institution as penance for his sins against her.

He wasn't a host past 2 seasons, . . . You mean he became a host in s3?

@@paulonetoneto3989 She doesn't want William on her side. she wants him to suffer and him not knowing if he is man or machine is his worst fear so he is suffering a lot.

I would like that

yh i'd like that, especially because i feel less invested now they've said that they are all Delores.

@@yellowcrocs9000 I doubt that. It didn't make sense . . . how was Bernard created then?

@@randomhuman97 Bernard only created the original Dolores, the one portrayed by Evan Rachel Wood, the rest of the other "Dolores" were created by the original Dolores, she brought to Bernard's house the machine to fabricate more hosts with her mind within them. I would like to see a Dolores vs Dolores fight, it would be interesting because even though Dolores has noble goals for her race, she doesn't have any qualms in killing whoever she needs to if that's what it takes to destroy her ultimate enemy: humanity. I think the fight would take place because one of the Dolores (I think it will be one in Charlotte Hale's body) will become even more radical than the original Dolores, because up to now, Dolores hasn't tried to purposefully hurt hosts that disagree with her revolution, she even admires Maeve, even though Maeve doesn't want to declare war on humans but I have the feeling that sooner or later, there will be a Dolores that will not give a flying fuck about hurting other hosts (including Maeve or Bernard or Stubbs), even if those hosts were once her friends.

@@95maferisturiz humanity isn't her ultimate enemy. At the least not anymore... You paying attention?

ilovebeansOO I think that was Bernards pearl tho. It's red because he has a bit of Arnold in him.

@@rebeccamadsen4509 Yes - Bernard's Pearl has the red hue. I haven't yet seen anything on screen showing where Dolores would have gotten Ford's Pearl. It doesn't mean it's impossible, it just hasn't been eluded to or shown yet.

Ford does not have a pearl, he is human not host ! it was just another Dolores, Ford was not replicated into a host either !

@@MehrdadParthian Arnold/Bernard was Human too. So?????

@Mehrdad Parthian thought at some point Ford did have a host version of himself. If not, I still wouldn’t put it past him to have a pearl version of himself stashed away somewhere. Too much knowledge and information to lose with a mind.

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. I think copying has worked well for Dolores so far

Definitely NOT an epic episode. I'm really surprised how so many people are able to see past such important plot holes.

@@kanesn0633 for instance?

@@jpnitro2000 I just brought one up. The Musashi host. Never was is it implied that Delores gained knowledge of the other parks and host. But some how knowing she would need a Japanese man to infiltrate and take over the yakuza who happen to manufacture the "milk" needed to make more host!

@@kanesn0633 I guess you forgot that she went to the forge ... where everything was stored... and that shes a machine. not that hard to assume that she saw everything - everything doesnt have to be shown to us.

@@JoshuaDay0550 sure didn't forget she went to the forge. But maybe you forgot that the forge was a collection of all the data recorded of people who has visited the park that's it. 2 thousand lines of code each I believe. Which she admitted she didnt read them all. And just because shes a machine doesn't mean shes fluent in the processing functionality of all programs and computers. But I guess we should just assume she is.

Yeah, like.. is main Dolores still the same Dolores or a Dolores 2.0.? Or is she like Voldemort and made hosts her Horcruxes haha (kidding).

I assume we're looking for two more :) one was a an Charlotte and 5 Pearls. Two men and 3 women. Did I missed sth?

@@C4llmeHouse the two men are bernard and the one who beat maeve. they're looking for a woman.

@@evonne9938 the one who beat Maeve told her "he" is Dolores. One male is clearly Bernard, the other one could still be out there.

On last episode there was someone unknown in Berlin (our lost Woman host?) that we don't know of. Everyone is known (Bernard, Dolores, Jakuza man, Charlotte, that Guy from Liam). I guess we will find out Who is this misterous lost host in Berlin on next epi.

There are no good guys in this series.

@@ariefraiser140 i mean there is it's just that you can't tell who is who

Yeah man..shes an asshole

I mean. If she was as bad as people think. She could just make a bunch of hosts, and kill everyone. Like she jokes about. But she's trying to do it the nice evil way. Im pretty sure it's evident that she's pro human and host. Just wants to kill all the gods.

what ?

hello fellow AltshiftX-er! 😄

I was just gonna say that!! They need to show credit

Do you think that Ford is a reference to Harrison Ford/Blade Runner, i.e. Real or replicant?

I think Ford is more of a Patriarchal moniker, like Henry Ford, an inventor etc. The Ennis House is just a good place to shoot and give a nod to Sci-Fi in general, IMO.

You're thinking of Frank Lloyd Wright's Ennis House. No, that's not it. Looks similar though.

Yes it's wrong haha!

I actually feel more empathy for Maeve and Dolores than for humans, the only human in Westworld I care about is Caleb Nichols.

@@95maferisturiz Yes but that's what the directors have pushed you towards. We also barely know Caleb. Don't forget William was once like him but the game changed that. I don't get people that want the hosts to 'win' despite knowing that the majority of humanity is full of innocents and good people like Caleb.

@@samuelatkin4090 Have you watched the fucking show? Have you watched how humans treated the hosts? Moreover, why the hell would humans build a theme park where people have fun by raping and murdering people? How fucked up must society be for 30 million of human guests to have fun by raping and killing human-looking robots? And don't come up with the shitty "but those aren't real humans" excuse, people enjoyed it as if they were raping and killing real people, William himself said it: the park shows your true colors, people think nobody is watching or judging them but the truth is, everything the human guests did was registered and recorded, human minds were copied by the Forge and written in the same books Dolores found and read by the end of 2nd season, humans created Westworld as a sick and inhumane experiment to achieve immortality at any fucking cost, even if that means building a theme park where humans are free to fuel their darkest desires. Charlotte Hale copied the minds of 30 million of humans without their fucking consent for hers and William's sick fantasies. Caleb has been so far the only exception when it comes to human's standard self-absorbed, psychopathic and sociopathic behavior, Dolores even showed him how companies such as Incite and technological devices such as Rebohoam actually controlled people's lives, if it weren't for Dolores, Caleb would commit suicide in 10 or 12 years in the future according to the fate Incite and Rebohoam had in store for him and who do you think are the people behind the creation of Delos, Incite and Rebohoam? Answer: FUCKING HUMANS. Who were the people behind the Experiment 16 in Delos, the experiment that seeks to transfer human minds to robotic hosts so that humans can be immortal? Answer: FREAKING HUMANS AGAIN. Who were the people that have been killing and murdering eveyone in sight to achieve their ambitious goals at any cost, who are the people that have been killing more individuals than Dolores herself? HUMANS. Humans have shown so far that they are willing to burn the fucking world if they want to so that they can finally be immortal, that's all the experiments in Delos and Incite are about: humans becoming immortal, it doesn't matter if a machine such as Rebohoam has to control everyone's fate and it doesn't matter if they have to build a theme park such as Westworld, a place that only fuels humans' most savage and primitive insticts instead of bulding a theme park that encourages people to have healthy fun with family and friends. Humans deserve everything that's coming their way and I understand Ford now, I used to see him as a villain but now, I understand why he programmed Bernard to kill Theresa and Elsie: sooner or later, those two would have supported Delos and Incite's sick experiments on humans and hosts alike, no other human except for Caleb deserves mercy, maybe Nathan Hale but he is just a kid, he isn't aware of how much of a merciless and murderous bitch his mother was, maybe that's why her ex-husband left Charlotte, because she cared more about being powerful than about her fucking family

Because after Dolores leaves the park in Charlottes body at the end of season 2 she is shown with multiple pearls. Soon after a new Dolores body with Dolores' mind is shown with a completely separate Charlotte implying that one of the pearls smuggled out was put into the Charlotte after Dolores transferred to her original body. The show gives no clues really at this point who the pearls are so they couldve theoretically been any host, hence the confusion/mystery.

Free will

@Sheaven Kacy the host? Remember Ford made his family and that little boy has him as a kid. That kid (that would be Ford) has the same clothes as kid Cerac, or viceversa. I dont see how people would dress the same during like 30 years? And un diferent countries

Another hint Delores bring Bernard again despite opposition Why ??

I dont understand how Serac can be his brother because Serac is one of the richest people on earth. But in season 1, Westworld needs money to keep running. Which they keep getting from young William and Delos. I feel like he would be able to get money from his brother, unless they are estranged. Also in this new episode Serac talks about how the information he needed was created in a "themepark".

@@michaelxie4084 good points

@@michaelxie4084 I am going to say that Serac didn't always have money, but as soon as he did (I assume he profited in creating Future World after the destruction of the "Real World"), Ford allowed a "mole" to feed him information or maybe was a mole himself. As we found out last episode, Serac has been slowly working his way to buying out Delos.

Well, to some degree his idea is justiable and right. Same thing with dolores actually, a traitor like Jiang is the humanity that he deem bad and as enemy

Oh my god you're right!!! Emily is the fifth host...

How does she keep disappearing

I thought Bernard is Bernard..She didn't need to copy herself in him as he was already a host/human.

What about 3 females? Charlotte, Dolores and ?

@@adityavikas7312 4:59 the image shows 5 unauthorized host that were created. The image shows 3 females and 2 males. The 2 males are Musashi and Connell and supposedly Bernard?, the 3 females are Dolores and two unknowns? Charlotte-Dolores doesn't count because she was created at the park. Anyway it's freaking weird, the image at 4:59 should show 3 males and 2 females instead of 3 females and 2 males

Musashi, Collins’ and Ford?

I thought the genders were the minds, so three pearls are Dolores (female) and the other two male, Bernard and the other still unknown.

It's open to interpretation. It can be right or wrong 😑😑 that the beauty of it, it makes as think, relate and interprete it. And his reason is logical, the intro forshadowing many things since S1

@@zikrim1227 That's wasn't my point. I was trying to say, if you are going to mention the similarity, whether it's right or wrong, offer some kind of idea of what you think it means. Otherwise it could be endless, like me just saying, The Roads are Black and many times Dolores wears a black dress...Okay, so what's the point? I completely understand that this show encourages that kind of thinking but sometimes Blood is just Blood. There is no other color to use for it. That being said, it may mean something bigger, but nothing has been shown so far to mean it. And if you make connections between every single thing out of 100 things and 3 end up right, anyone acting like "Ahah, I knew it" is a little disingenuous. If anyone points out every possible connection between every possible thing, of course they will end up right once in a while. Maybe I am not explaining this well in text. It's just at some point, all these endless unverified guesses become massive clutter in the talk of the show.

Trust me hi story is far from over. I have a feeling he is going to accept his reality and destroy the man in black and become William again. This is foreshadowed by his all white clothes compared to his usual all in black. Much like how Young William once donned the white hat of Heroism.

In the trailer there is a scene where he says that he is going to save the world.

And S2 ending happen in the future

1. Dolores has always been the center pint of west world since season 1. Also, even it focuses on a few characters is better than focusing on every body. 2. To get a upper hand lmao

1 Dolores has always been the main character. You just admitted she’s not your fave. 2 she used his body to control the yakuza

@@harithmadawaki8766 1. I never said she wasn't the main character 🤷 2. Why is Musashi's body any help in the real world ? Why is a host body of a theme park a gang boss in the real world ? I don't understand this part. Shouldn't Dolores find the real boss and put the host pearl in him ?

Serac, Serac, whatever will be, will be

Well when your only options are hell and a lie for heaven I think its rational for her to just go with it, maybe she's planning a way to go around the off switch and escape

I actually dont buy all of them are Dolores. She is manipulative. probably just her plan to control Bernard, like she manipulate Caleb without telling him she is a host. And Charlotte Dolores is just an act to make William seems crazy and take control of Delos. The other clue, Charlotte Dolores at the park are fine, dont have mental breakdown. Why would she put out her own pearl in Charlotte's body and move it to Dolores' body when it's actually the same one?

Even if it is, what if it is not actually all the same Dolores. Like a game, you have save data. One dolores completed arch 1, the other from the Dolores after finishing the game? Dolores/Wyatt. And what if that print based on their mind sex? Because wyatt is clearly a male name, and she is identify as a male after S2. So we have 2 Wyatt/Dolores and 3 Dolores. It will solve why Charlotte had mental breakdown in E2(she is dolores from the beginning of S1), and becomes wyatt after killing the pedophile?

And one of them probably betray Wyatt/Dolores in the future hahaha

Challenge their last leader. I think dolores can make her own yakuza, recruits some men, and challenges the last yakuza. Dolores' going full terminator on them, and take control of their territory with her own yakuza to create host army. It is pretty clever plan

They are designed, but she probably rebuilt him, the same way she rebuilt Bernard at the end of the season 2, and herself too

That's my middle name I LITERALLY am one.

if you look closer at the shoulders, it looks like 3 males and 2 females

@@JoshuaDay0550 as shakira once said, the hips dont lie:D

There are bernard's body in arnold's host??

Christine Celmer what makes you think it was angela? no face reveal nor actress credit

@@kitspace2024 Go back and watch the scene again. When Liam is about to "buy" the company of the blond woman on the platform. That is 100% Angela.

@@CC-rv4zc nope, just put both pics on my screens and actress that plays Angela has hazel eyes, and the actress in episode has light blue...but true they are pretty similar, it just doesn't make sense to bring in that actress of Angela for a 2 sec shot.

I actually dont buy all of them are Dolores. She is manipulative. probably just her plan to control Bernard, like she manipulate Caleb without telling him she is a host. And Charlotte Dolores is just an act to make William seems crazy and take control of Delos. The other clue, Charlotte Dolores at the park are fine, dont have mental breakdown. Why would she put out her own pearl in Charlotte's body and move it to Dolores' body when it's actually the same one?

5 years left 😂

People think, she transfered her pearl to Dolores' body. While putting one of other pearl to Charlotte's body. So charlotte that we see in S3 is not the same one in S2E10

I got the idea it's Emily? Maybe that's how Charlotte knew WIlliam was seeing her: she is a host Dolores created. AT least this is what I got from the scene Charlotte reveals who she really is. I guess I'll have to rewatch the episode to be sure

Paulo Neto Neto I don’t think it’s Emily. She’s pretty clearly not a actually there as she shows up in shots right before Hale.

@@arianafox365 that's precisely one of the reasons why I think that. Hale would of course pretend she couldn't see Emily, as if she wasn't there. I mean, it was a little convenient she showed up right when William was about to cut his wrists open. Almost like she was waiting for her queue

wouldn’t she keep the Hale body from the park (end of ss2) so not to make another one? so it’s 1 Dolores 2&3 unknown

@@paulonetoneto3989 I understand your theory, that they made an Emily for the sole purpose of tricking him, but in the end it didn't really seem like a big deal to trick him since he was easily taken away by two randoms. I don't think she would waste one of those pearls for just this. I think that final pearl is about to blow our minds.