Mahindra pik up single cab 2.2L turbo diesel 2016 model, my brother owns one paid $23,000 for it and it only has 53,000km on the clock and has a Eaton automatic locking differential. Very capable 4wd.
@@callumbaylissbrandenburg9605 the problem is it's probably nor gonna last as long as most mainstream 4wd's and parts are more scarce whether they are off road upgrade parts or spares
I have had hiluxs for around 25 years. Easy to work on, and get parts for. I started cheap, 5k was my first hilux. I had it for 7 years, until I sunk it in port Philip bay launching my boat on a beach, I got paid out 7k from the insurance company as a total loss - bonus! (Made 2k in 7 years). I tend not to do hard core stuff anymore, 1- I’m older and wiser, 2, my current sr5 hilux cost $67k fully decked out, bull bar, winch, steel tray, 145 litre long range tank, and many other bits and pieces, reg + insurance. This vehicle now tows my caravan to WA, where I prospect for gold, it’s my business vehicle, tows my boat, use it’s tray to fill up fire wood. It’s all rounder now. I take care of my vehicles nowadays. When I was young I blew up gearboxes, transfer cases, cracked rear axles, cooked engines, replaced head gaskets myself. I fully pulled apart my 3RZ 2.7 litre engine and rebuilt that myself in my home garage. Took that all the way to WA, then north to Broome, Halls creek, down towards Melbourne down the tanami (worst dirt road on earth, vicious corrugations in parts, I think around 1100 or 1300kms, can’t remember), it didn’t miss a beat that old girl on that trip. My advice, buy something cheap, if you are blessed being mechanically minded, and can fix things yourself, go for it, have fun. Not everyone is mechanically minded, so think wisely before you go hard on tracks, cos things brake when they get old (cheap cars), and if you are paying someone to fix it, I can imagine things escalating in costs. But I’d say give it a go, try to fix things yourself, there’s plenty of knowledge on RU-vid nowadays to help you along
At my work site we have 08-2010 hiluxs and 07-2009 DMAXs. The dmaxs are OVER 1,000,000 kms on the clock and the hiluxs are over 800,000 km on the clock. I highly recommend them trucks, treat them well, service them, fix them when there’s a problem and they’ll go forever
The Ol GQ still holds its own 30 odd years down the track and is still the perfect entry level and capable rig. Love the simplicity and non bias of ya channel lads, there's a few hidden gem here on the south coast when restrictions are lifted
Honestly I'd go for tdi300 disco 1 for 0 to 5k. They're reliable, cheap as chips on fuel and are great off road, they have live axles and are probably one of the most comfortable cheap 4x4 you can buy.
@@parkkos9798 Based on my experience and what I see for sale, series 1 and 2 Discoverys absolutely are reliable, they just don't respond well to poor maintenance or overheating. Keep on top of your maintenance and fix the few design faults found over time like you should with every old car and there's almost no reason why a pre 2004 Land Rover shouldn't hit at least 400,000kms even with off road use.
im 23 went out and bought a brand new toyota hilux this year. So far so good only problem is now im broke af and cant afford any mods. I bought it just before covid at the start of the year in feb. She still hasnt been taken off road and is completly stock. Im happy with my purchase but possibly going a little cheaper and throwing the extra cash on mods is the better way to go. If i could pick any car id go the 79 series.
2nd gen 4runner/surf is one of the best value for money 4wds you can get, preferably a surf cause of the diesels but even the 3.0 v6 is an alright engine as long as you keep up to date on everything and have had the head gasket recall, my vzn130 is still running strong with 335550ks
Got a 1999 GU patrol Petrol for $6,000 and the old girl has never let me down and ive spent next to no money on it. (except for mods like 6" suspension lift and 35" muddies) also got 2 of ya stickers the other day, great quality
Don't rush into buying one. Look around. I got my 89 td42 GQ wagon for $2900 12 months ago.. There are plenty of cheap reliable 4wds out there if your willing to take your time and wait until you find the right one
I know most people would know this. But, if you want a 3L GU. DO NOT get an early series one. GU I, GU II, If you wanna save money. If you don’t mind spending money and sending your car to the mechanic shop or spending 4 weekends on it then go right ahead. There is a reason they’re called grenade engines. Later Direct Injection 3L (GU III, GU IV) didn’t have the grenading problem but you’ll have to replace the diesel pump and injectors at one point. I just replaced the pump and injectors on mine. If you want a Patrol just save up your money and get a TD42 turbo or non. Just stay clear of the early ZD30 3L engines unless you’re gonna engine swap it. This is my current plan and one of many reasons why I got a ZD30. Even though my patrol is a GU IV and the issue was resolved the ZD30 engine is somewhat underpowered and sluggish. It’s not built for power.
@@themisunderstoodgorilla7030 the half-shafts and drive flanges flogging out so you get that good ole drive clunk.....the pannels denting from just looking at them....piss-weak UV joints.....a grill that smashes to pieces when so much as a finch gets hit on the road.....terrible drivers ergonomics......weak as piss clutches...leaks everywhere.....and ours has only done 110,000ks.....do i need to go on??????
I bought 2008 Range Rover with all the Vogue etc names with every option, it’s a tuned 3.6 d V8, egr, PDF delete (quicker than my mate’s 4.5 Toyota), never towed anything, inside like new and not even a scratch on the paint, an obvious mall crawler or soccer mum car just it makes good noise: bought it to tow a boat but it drives so smooth and quiet, not even a rattle that I drive 98% of the time (also have a mint C6 Corvette convertible I’m not even bothering to register next year) Paid $25k for it with 110,000 klm, now has 155,000 klm with no issues: have taken it on some rough old dirt tracks but nothing that needed 4x4 engaged so can’t comment on that, I’ve heard people bag them because sometimes an airbag might stuff up but that’s it: I wanted a V8 Toyota, either troopy or wagon but they were twice the price with more than twice the klm’s, had just basic plastic interior, no autos (I’m an old truckie so not interested in manuals: I can drive a 20 speed quadruplex and 20 speed Spicer which most have never even heard of let alone Road Rangers etc) I like English cars and this thing is like a 4x4 Roller, if it costs me $20k (which it won’t) over the next ten years I’ll still have money left over if I bought a Troopy... maybe not the resale but I doubt there’ll be much in it. Was going to look at a new Jeep before I bought the C6 but the only diesel is a 2.2 Alpha Stelvio and can’t find a long term review: the previous 2.8 was a VM engine, I used them on BPT’s as blower engines and nothing trouble... the new Colorado has them just they changed a few things, in Jeeps they cringed, in the Colorado they rave about them, go figure... I wouldn’t trust one.
Got a 2016 D23 Navara for a daily and long trips... got my 93 factory TD42 GQ Patrol for fun and short trips... I will definitely hold onto my GQ forever... although I do love the Navara.. it’s super comfy, super reliable, heaps of power and amazing, best in class I think for fuel economy.. best of both worlds.. misses likes driving the Navara too...
Nice list of options! If I had the space I'd grab an old petrol GQ for a second 4wd to hit the tracks nearby and do short overnight trips. I just like older cars/trucks and prefer working on them.
Pajero all the way. My 02 Pajero cost me $3500. Yes it's petrol but much cheaper to maintain and work on than the Diesel version and it pushes through everything Patrols and Cruisers doo.
In the lower price bracket I would go with the Pajero because they deprecate in value more than the Toyotas or Nissans, so you can get a less flogged out car for a similar price.
I got a d21 td27t terrano for 450 bucks with a crook engine put another motor in for 500 bucks 950 bucks on the road laughing. Extent of 4wd'ing I've done is towing firewood offroad but it handles that sweet. Decent option for me since my main passion is street and track cars but I want to give 4wding a go without forking thousands on a safari etc
Yeah and then used/second hand old rigs like Ford Bronco, Ford F100/150, International AB120, International C1500, 45 Series Cruiser, MQ/MK patrol, Series II/III Land Rover.
@@themisunderstoodgorilla7030 i got a quote on one....they are petrol, have the shit build quality of a typical american car and the back-up of a merc.
I have a WD21 pathfinder (1995) great little car . I've done 110,000 km's in the 4 years i've owned it (now 146,000 KM's) Been told its not a real 4x4, but we have shown many with those thoughts that she is a 4x4 and can and often do more then it should... Mind you a good spotter is the key to make any driver and/or car look good. And what did i pay for my beast? just $1000.oo and still had two weeks rego at the time...LOL I'm asked often would i or when am i going to get something better? I'm not.. I know this car and with some good money being spent this year .... she will be almost unstoppable. and still be only 1/4 of the cost of other cars that i could buy... Just thought i would share my story....
I have a WD21 I paid $700 for 21 years ago and it has made plenty of patrols and landcruisers blush with its capability and reliability. Parts are getting hard to come by now, however.
i just loved this video! i am an Argentinian in Australia looking for my first 4WD to explore the country. I would like to set it up to sleep in the car as i am just 5.1 i will be fine haha. I am looking for reliability and easy to mantain as i dont really know much about cars, i will not be able to fix an issue in the middle of nowhere. I will say i have 8 to 10 grand budget, and could go to 12 if it is the dreamed. what you can recommed to look for? also, talking about kms how much is a good maximum in a 4WD? thanks a lot!
Disco and defenders cant go wrong. Under rated in aus due to a smaller aftermarket and dificult to get parts. But very capable vehicles being coil live axles (disco 1 and 2) and not too expensive. And the defenders (excluding perentie) are alloy bodies so light. Verymuch under rated cars. And for thr 0-5k bracket a v8 disco is a better choice then a petrol gq. Both good tho. Diesel offerings in the gq are much better than disco offerings and on par with defenders esp perentie
You forgot about the Land Rover Defenders! Live axles front and rear all the way to 2016. Can find them from about 10k all the way up to 90k, and they’re actually appreciating now. You’ve also got J**ps and Suzukis, but I think you mentioned most other brands.
Get a clean gu patrol and engine swap it with a 1hdfte or LS engine depending on what driving you do and itll be blow all other 4x4 on the tracks and on the streets. You can't simply buy a 4x4 with a better driveline or chassis. Nissan engines aren't the best but the Toyota engines are so itll be a no brainier to spend 60 to 80k on a brand new car littered with emissions controls and engineered to only last a curtain time. service ability and parts availability is another key factor that needs to be brought up. I myself have done extensive research and work to my car which is a GU patrol with a td42t. Youll be amazed at how reliable you can get these engines if you have some good mechanical knowledge. The thing that lets them down is the Muppet that pulls a 30k loan out to buy one. The 79, hilux and any other ute 4x4s (excluding the patrols ) are not made to go do your hard tracks without a high amount of stress put on factory components. And ill happily have a extensive discussion with anyone who disagrees with this.
I feel like the ford ranger raptor i slept on a bit. Yes they r very expensive but we got one and tested it on a bunch of fire tracks and im very suprised on how good it was
I Agree. From the factory they have incredible offroad capability. Only issue I see is low towing capability and not really capable of GVM upgrade Mods
Love the video lads! I picked up a 2011 gu wagon common rail 3.0L for 27k (asking price was 32k) with only 40xxx on it. Bloody good deal for the Ks. Couldn't be more happier with it! If your around that 25-30k mark, definetly couldn't go wrong with a clean GU 🤙
I gotta 2008 rodeo and that things is quick enough to keep up with corollas and gets me pretty much anywhere I point it, and with a 3" exhaust and psico airbox it sounds great
What about 120 and 150 series Prados??? Really nice cars. Petrol is bulletproof and more refined then most under 15k. Even diesels are great tourers Petrols sitting between 10-20k, diesels 15-30k. Not as capable but better on the road and highway.
I rock a 2009 Land Rover Freelander 2 ($9000) and a 2019 Mercedes X class 350d ($90,000), the freelander has never let me down and I've taken it off road many times, it's definitely a hidden gem it offers unrivaled comfort on and off road. The Mercedes is a underated beast although it is expensive it is definitely capable off-road, powered by the om642 engine it hits the sweet spot of power and fuel efficiency and is definitely a good choice for around 70-90k
so you have a 90,000 dollar Narvara, with a face-lift....there is a reason they have already stopped selling them you know? there wasn't enough suckers out there for them to be viable in Australia!!
They will just pop CV's more cause an IFS can't handle as much torque on the CV's simply down to there angle (unless its under a 2" lift then it changes, you rip a CV boot in mud though then ya stuffed. Don't have to worry about that with a solid Axel
Whatever price you get your 4wd. Its second hand. Hence itll need work. People have families. People fix things when they break and perhaps not much so preventative. Another tip perhaps go with live axle front and rear. Independent has more clearennce but just doesnt flex. I think theyre best left for outback touring. If you dont mind the lack of movement in the front end or do light 4wd work there are more 4wds out there besides nissans and toyotas. For young guys why not a swb mq patrol? 80/90's pajero-i think the petrol versions had a v6? Land rover discoveries v8 for local work, diesel for touring-plenty mods out there from uk to get them up and going. If you want a land rover 110. Get onto greys online. Register and bid for a perentie. It should be cheaper than buying one from gumtree/ebay.
I’m currently saving up for a RG Colorado Z71 and if I’m lucky the Z71 Xtreme back then from there 2inch lift slightly bigger all terrains and just a rear locker and I think I’ll be about set can’t go wrong with those autos either with the 500NM and 147KW!
Guys, thanks - that was a great run down. For my needs (touring), I tow a small camper and I've zeroed in on a pathfinder or challenger but keep looking at the 4XMotion Touareg...worried about the cost of repairs, but from what I've read they are fairly reliable and capable. What are your thoughts on this euro brand? Any other suggestions?
@@AussieArvos Yes. Can't assume anything in the camper will stay dry and clean, or in the canopy if I bought a ute...the S/W pretty much does guarantee that. Also the softer ride is appealing..we are planning to become grey nomads - the grey part is complete, now for the nomadding part...:)
Benny id steer clear of the pathfinders, go the challenger or a pajero in that price range. My mechanic said he would beat me up if I bought a pathfiner (same shape as a D40 navara - previous models were great) as they had so many issues with the 2.5lt diesel. Theres a reason theyre such a good price but also why so many have dissapeared from the second hand market so fast when they were a top selling ute. Did heaps of research for us on the subject. Reliability between the mitsubishi and the pathfinder....stick with Pajero or challenger. Both great cars and reliable and good bang for buck. The 3.2lt pajero diesels are amazing on fuel and tow amazingly if you can get one. Just stay away from a pathy for your wallets sake. (Fyi my firt car was a pathy so I have a soft spot for them and was gutted the new ones were so unreliable). Good luck
I am so glad its gonna be a few years before I can buy a car because 4x4 prices are through the roof at the moment. I want a an 80 series cruiser but far out, i saw one on carsales for 100k. wtfff
Just interested in why you are so set on solid axle? I am selling my 105 and jumping into a ifs 100 and I will not hesitate to go just as hard in the new bus
diesel hilux 2.8 340,000 still running strong like u said not fast but always gets you home and uses f all fuel about as fast as a patrol with an rd28t really
About to buy my next car. I'm at a loss at what to get. I want something with the reliability of my old 80s hilux but with more comfort. I don't want it financially ruin me if it breaks down. I just don't see that in all the new work utes, as much as I like the look of them. I have 30-40k to spend. I'm actually considering getting a 4.7 v8 petrol cruiser for 20-30k and spending 10k on mods (or fuel).
@@shaunmurray8132 there’s heaps they drive them out of the show room and expect the price to go up maybe 20k is a bit steep but they do put more money on them when they go to sell them least earlier zooks stay max of 15k but generally there the ones with everything done to them anything below 4K is generally rust buckets
@@zookie_adventures1007 i must have missed your point, i did say the cruisers are like king on the resale value thing....but no, they dont just rocket up in price. people pay for all the shit that gets done to them
Id love an old td coil cab ute but the new dualcabs are so much better on the road and I think the difference between them off-road and the solid axel is smaller than solid axel to ifs on the road so I don't think I'm gonna spend lots on a patrol unless I have 2 cars but that's just my opinion you do you
@@benjohnston8665 yea everyone always says that, but after having both for years and years i would say neither has been more reliable than the other...and the v8s at least have the sound and the easy power
Totally forgot about Jeeps or Defenders. JL Wrangler Rubicon twin locked solid axles still sold brand new. 2012 Defender 110. JK wrangler unlimited petrol is under 30k swell these days so similar budget to same age dual cabs. Having something the insurance companies value what it cost is important to me. over paying on a 80 series or td patrol means having to pick a car enthusiast type insurance which you pay more for again. 5000km service intervals on mechanical diesels isn't practical for most tradies, modern diesels go 10,000km same as petrols.
seeing the prices of these cars now compared to when this video was made is crazy, i cant even really find a petrol 90's hilux for less than like 7 grand now 😭
Paid $3,500 for a 1998 2.8 TD NL Pajero (240thou) owes me $6k all up, but has all the fruit I need now for an ifs remote tourer. Pulls 10L/100 on hwy on 33s tuned @ 14psi
Hard to go past 70 series Tojo’s A real sleeper that are an absolute steal are 2012 up Mitsubishi Challenger (pre-cursor to the Pajero Sport) Bullet proof, drive well, cheap service, comfy- Get a real good one for mid teens...$10-18K..(full disclosure, I am a big Mits fan- No one gets near them value for money new or used)
Most 4.2 diesel six pots burn nearly just as much fuel as their petrol counterparts except for the mighty Patrol 4.8, that wins the drinking contest hands down. Also diesels require a service more frequent than petrol's. I drive a Landcruiser but if I had to choose something for a bush weapon I would go with a TJ Wrangler and I am not a Jeep fan at all.
Just bought a 1998 HZJ75 Series Lancdcruiser for 16k with 450,000k's absolutely ripper purchase, just gotta know what to look for, lower k's doesn't necessarily mean a better car. I saw a lot a shitboxes before I found mine.
Not a mention of a zook anywhere....I paid 2g for a 2004 xl7 that truck eats up all my friends trucks all I’ve done is a simple lift and tyres and haven’t been caught out yet...lol can’t really even get a good gq here in NZ now...but keep up the good work guys it was awesome to see the price points compared to here..
Old school bt-50 2007-2011 best 4wd ive ever driven for a low price, basically a hilux engine, and can get it for cheap with low ks and youll know itll last
hello guys do you think it's a good buy a Prado 2004 4.0 6 cylinder for 10k and spend 3k for changing airbag (broken already) with 2" lift and lower control arm? Thank You..
0-5 K category the best go to is still the xj the 4l is realible great wheelbase parts are cheap having had GQ patrols and xj cherokeea in the past I can say hands down the xj is more capable with a better wheelbase for offroarding And there's that many aftermarket parts avaible that you can build a everything from a serious rock crawler to a capable tourer
Hi Boys, Great content. I’ve watched this twice and got two different answers. In Sydney at least early 4x4s are like puppy dogs. They are scarce and expensive. I saw more wanted adds, than vehicles.it wasn’t like this 12 months ago. I’m now thinks a clean late model bt50, dmax etc is better value than an early project, but get a good early 4z4 and it will appreciate in value Regards Alex
If it was a price between 20k - 40k I would go for a 79 or 80 series because they are a very reliable car as well as the 78 with the V8 in them. But if I went for a a Nissan I would go for a duel cab ute and upgrade it.
got my 96 td gq for 5k 2 years ago, but I feel I have to say that you didn’t mention jeeps once, yes they’re warranty and customer service are absolutely shit house, but they are newer cars with solid axles
I'd love to say I'd pick toyota for reliability but when your on the road for hours on end comfort becomes a big player, and in my opinion all the leaf sprung Toyota's are no fun on the rough Aussie roads especially if you have any sort of back problems
I work for my local council where we've had Dmax's since they came out almost. Speaking to the mechanics they never have an issue they're ultra-reliable and very economical. I've been using on occasions one to tow a trailer weighing up to 2 ton or more with absolutely no problems. they have plenty of torque. Dmax or MUS would be my choice for new
Any gu past 05 basically not worth the price as they stopped realising the td42’s and the 3l just aren’t reliable as the rd or the zd which is unfortunate
If you want a week end warrior tuff track go solid axle Nissan Toyota Jeep ... If you only do the occasional tough track and more touring etc go with a dual cab ute with independent front end ... They are just nicer to drive on a day to day basis , generally more economical and quieter and usually easier to live with
Keep up the good videos lads, you are the Aussie version of my and my mates, fucking around doing random shit with trucks haha. No.1 binge i reckon. Churr from New Zealand!
