What a CRAZY NEW BUILD! - Happy vs Lyn - WC3 - Grubby 

Wow finally a good orc build against happy. Destroyers are the key for ud to win. Countering that was necessary. Great commentary grub!

Thanks for keeping this awesome game alive, Grubby!

Wow, this is the first time I've ever seen anyone make beating Happy look easy. I'm excited to see if Happy can adapt.

It seems that Happy struggles with Fire Lord at the moment, both Moon and Lyn used him to beat Happy. It will be very interesting to see how he adapts. The Firelord buffs were spot on in retrospect.

Thanks for the recap. Getting some top tier insight is always valuable to the community.

Great commentary Grubby, nice breakdown about the strategic implications of bat riders and firelord as well enabling the expo advantage. I am curious to see how Happy responds. It'd be cool to see you implement this build as well as it appears to be such a powerful strategy in this matchup for reasons you mentioned. Great innovation by Lyn. I hope you do more commentary vids such as this I really enjoy watching the back2warcraft videos in these prize money events in general but you have a much deeper understanding of the game. Please do more of these types of vids it enables a different layer of depth with your commentary

Great series, great commentary

Very exciting and so well played! Getting back into watching wc3 after not playing for maybe 20 years now and the meta seemed to have staled up from what I saw in recent weeks, with Happy absolutely destroying everyone. I wonder what variations this will lead to! Also Grubby love your content and commentary. Such a chill and insightful dude. I used to have massive eyes of envy as a kid on you and TuffNuT-'s tauren avatars in bnet chat!! 😂👊

@Grubby thanks for adding the legendary elder scrolls 3 OST tranquil waters to the background music

This was really cool to see, Obviously you can say Ted Fiends would be the counter to this, or even Fiend build with the slower Tech but the beauty of this build is that you can just go raider walker and not even build air. Thing for undead though is you just have to start with a build guessing you not gonna get the scouting out then decide on Fiends or Ghouls you just have to open with what you feel comfortable with in the matchup. This adds a cool paper rock scissors element. Ghouls opener could maybe even work but you would have to burrow harass early maybe after Level 2 but also hope not to lose acolytes to farseer harass. Nice to see something new will be cool to see what UD comes up with or how they go about it. The orc strategy is pretty flexible.

Firelord is the kryptonite for Happy ... Moon showed the way 😎

This new orc strategy looks BRILLIANT... Fiends are a huge investment and delay for your progression and as orc you have the ability to control the pacing of the game... If he changes to fiends, you can change to riders, if he sticks to ghouls /statues / abominations you can counter him easily, if he techs up, you have time to even go taurens due to expo income advantage...

Whoa this is incredible! What a genius discovery by Lynn!

Malukah in the background, nice! ❤😊

"You can't sneak up behind an abomination and pinch its cheeks without him noticing" But the abomination is so cute! I can't resist pinching cheeks of this cutest pile of combined corpses.

awesome casting grubby

The transition from tier 2 to tier 3 for the undead is when it is most vulnerable, it reaches tier 3 and takes out a destro orb, it wins quickly, Lyn knew that perfectly well and that is why in previous games she took out a fortified tower, but she played very defensively, Now that Firelord is strong and Farsil in early gets in the way a lot, I achieve a perfect balance to neutralize Happy, Lyn really is a Warcraft genius!!!

Genius build. I love this game.

At the six minute mark of game 1, I was thinking there's no way this can work. Level 3 hero verse two level 1s and a raider. That's it. Game 2 was no joke. sheesh

This was a good build

If I could make a criticism, while I do love the Grubby tangents. I feel like it can gloss over some of major battles happening on screen. In the last match, both of the major battles in happy base didn’t receive any commentary. Just my thoughts. Still enjoy led the replay.

I kind of feel good seeing Happy loosing . He was so dominant that was looking impossible for those top players to beat him , and now bunch of bat riders beat him . As orc player it feels nice .

That mass bats, it looks funny so much that it worked

Brand new builds in 73yrs old game! Wow

"The toilet is my safe space." I feel like that's how Stephen King's IT was originally conceived.

great video, 5 star comentary

Since Firelord only very recently (less than 2 weeks after the current patch went live?) became usable for anything other than a tower rush, it is understandable not to have thought of a build using the Firelord this way.

GG Lyn!🎉

Funny build which prove once again that orc is the funniest race to play (i’m a hu player)

i love Grubbies commentary but sometimes he has to pause his thought and get back to the action lol

I also like to see Happy loose, he doesnt show any emotion when he wins a series, like he doesnt even care

@17min, is that Malukah in the background?

So funny. Never thought ud has no solution to mass bats. Let alone Happy.

it pleases me to see the emperor on thin ice

Grubby from where i download wc3 to play onlinw with latest version

Does he need to add a garg or two spread out?

Firelord has become the apocalipsis of the undead

Lets go

I'm sure someone else told you but IWD said on stream he will coach you for League ;)

Good.

Hey grubby, You seem to be more bulkier compared to the past year have you been working out ?

The article donation comment was (I think) a reference to people having playboy magazines in their bathroom and saying they read it for the articles. I’m not sure if he was implying you were spending extra time in the bathroom because of a Donald Duck fetish… but …

Wow! Has the time finally come when Undead (or just Haopy) has to actually adapt?

Man, Happy is being humbled hard recently.

grub chief, have you tried playing dota 1 in reforged graphics

I really liked the grubby pro casts. I remember when youtube was filled with replay casting/commentary before livestreaming. Also, how come you always use words in such weird contexts lol (I just started noticing it) @1448 you use constellation, unless I don't know something that is used strictly in astronomy :D

Didnt know you can turn around by doing a 360!

Is that Skyrim music in Warcraft?? 🤔🤔

It seems like he has to go fiends with web to have a chance to get destroyers

bats into bloodlust!

it's the skyrim music for me

Why did happy give up? He was in base still hadDK and Alc?

Real black swan build

first thing that I thought ... why no fiends?

Gg he made it look easy.

I beat every single Undead, except Happy....ahahahhahaha very brave

Grub, where is w3booster for classic overlay?

Plz let us know who won lol it happens so fast.

The best counter to UD is to make anti-air e.g. bats or flying machines. Destroyers are so powerful, they have to be countered before they are even made

Firelord is pretty damn strong vs ud, as long as ud doesn't have destro. Mass bats/wyv tower has always been strong vs ud, and eco game vs ud. Those ziggarats just dropped from focus from bats and summon army with mainly range army with like 2 raiders. Don't even need many raiders, the bats are the main damage, along with wyvern. You can go into mass wyv even later, sprinkle some HH or kodo. Orc is supposed to > UD(same as ud is supposed to > NE) and looks like it is still true. UD is hurt the most by neutral heroes imo since ud doesn't have direct fast healing apart from heal pots. Maybe happy should try using FL himself. If that doesn't work, can always change to orc or another race. If you can't beat them.. join them lol. But yeh. I'm sure happy will learn to adapt and how to counter this build in a week or so after he plays around with training partners and figures out the pros/cons and timings. It almost seems like Lyn doesn't even need the expo, that's how strong the build is vs happys current mass ghoul to destro 3 hero build. He can't keep using that build, lyn has him hard countered from even before he uses it and no ghoul micro can counter ensnare and bats exploding and FL FS chain lightning death ball lol.

fiends are only counter, stubborn UD in 2nd game use to ghouls orb destroy easy win, finally need to adapt like other races

26:25 I mean it's not the bats only thing, it's the execution too. I play WCIII for as long as you do, Grubby, (not _that_ good though ;-)), and I have always played bats against Dessies. Because bats are anti air. They do go boom. It's simple, almost Trump-esque. Still Happy would wipe the floor with me if I played against him, because I would never think about (and force it) to go with the first raider and always ensnare and kill the first statue Happy makes. This is what happens in both games and seems to be key. Delaying the Dessies so that when Happy finally gets to 2-3 Dessies, you have enough Bats to blow m up. If this orc guy would have failed only once to kill the first statue/Dessie, I don't know if he would have won. I mean did you see that? In the 2nd game he went deep into Happy's base just to kill that first statue.

Happy has not solved this patch yet lol

"Dont force me cup"? What a weird name

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i feel like simply going fiends + statues + dk, lich, crypt lord should beat this.

Abom gonna turn around 360 degrees… so you can pinch his other cheek I guess 🤣

lynnnnn

What happens when undead has dispel locked behind t3 and an air unit. This is nothing new.

From now on I am gonna take a shower at the gym. I will bury my shyness. Yes I will!

"turn aorund 360" wait..

7th!

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this looks promissing

Why happy didn't transfer to fins.

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Just stay old standard Dk lich Dr Fiends with web and gg

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Halfway through game two. Looks like happy is gonna lose. He is getting out crept by solo FS and FL basically lol. Level 3/2 vs level 2 dk. Even though Lyn went fast tech. Happy definitely needs to go fiend web or fast expo into fiend web. Ghouls get destroyed so fast vs fire lord and chain lightning wolves and bats means you can't even use destro. Happy is relying on heroes only but you can't do that when you're out crept by solo heroes lol

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It's sad to read comments like "finally an orc build against Happy" like... imagine being that good playing WC3 so others are trying to make a build against you, but not against the race you play. And there are still bunch of people who says UD is OP just by seeing Happy winning the tournaments. It's not about how UD is OP, but how Happy is playing. Wish Happy to adapt to this Firelord-bats build and I hope he will

ایران دوست داریم.گروبی..

I hope this doesn't mean uds go back to fiends, the most boring unit in the game.

Orc is skipping T1 and fast teching. Couldnt Ud win easy with double Rax Rush mass T1 and add towers to it? How could that fail

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Noob strat to making ghouls against orc. Unless you need corpses for skeletons. It's always have to be fiends. Happy such a noob against orc. It's just one strat to beat any orc even without great micro. Cryptlord, dk and this tavern hero with splash attack making debuff. Fiends, banshee, destro. There's no counter.

"He's gonna turn around 360° and confront you" Yeah ummm, Grub. That's not how it works. Edit: it should be 180°

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