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He was an enormous prick for most of his life, and treated everyone who was truly responsible for Apple's success like complete dog shit. This guy gets multiple books and movies made about his life, and folks like Woz tread water in comparative obscurity. He was a salesman who created a brand, and rode on the backs of people magnitudes of order more visionary and humane to obscene levels wealth and renown.
I remember one time Steve Jobs broke into my house and shot my dog. He told me it was my fault because I wasn't paying attention. It was amazing experience, I learned so much.
Not really he was a capitalist exploitation artist of talent. Probably he started out good but was corrupted by the system. Our computer technology would be more advanced, safe, and useful than it is today without such grifters if we had continued more open source nonprivatized development and rewarded more innovative and ethical competition.
A lot of the most smart, innovative, creative, artistic, etc people often deal with the most mental illness. That’s why there’s a fine line between a genius and a mad man.
Nah he just wanted to push people to see if they were strong mentally. He could tell by how people reacted to his questions if they were tough or weak minded
Yep fuck all these ceo that are seen has hero, finding a quality human being in life is actually way more impressive then this piece of garbage who thinks creating technology is more important then being a decent human being.
@@gabrielonibudo5710 i had a compagny of 3 employee that was doing well for 2 years and i threw it all away,gotta listen to your inner feeling and throw all that bullshit away society is deeply sick from the ego and their desire of status since we are not educated the right way since we were young,we are told to please people to be good little puppet of the system and thats how people end up in these position they craved what they've lacked in their education wich is being loved for what they are, not gonna lie my dad was rich but he was never there for me id rather have had a poor dad that would have been there.
@@ihazdaforks I don't think they are praising him, I just think they don't hate him for it since he had cancer stress at the time. Though I wouldn't doubt it if Steve jobs was an asshole before cancer.
Because you simply don’t get it. Yeah you could look at it that way. Sure, he sounds absolutely frightening, however did you totally miss everything said here? This is Apple, seems to me this man was almost supernatural who brought the best out in people. As someone who served, I’m sure I seen past all the screaming and tyranny in a lot of my great leaders.. if they didn’t see anything in you, trust me.. they wouldn’t say a damn word too you. Steve gave his people just enough.. You heard him say EVERYONE wanted to please him. Meaning , everyone in that environment was beyond great. I’m sure if you were in that environment it would either inspire greatness from you, from yourself. Or you’d either fail out and be fired! Nothing personal
@@ccvjd3909 lol no I wouldn’t go that far... No one‘s implying you simply take someone’s shit and swallow it, lay on your back and go to sleep on it 🤣 come on... 🙄let’s be fr here, we’re talking about the late Steve Jobs here. All I’m saying is EVERYONE that has EVER worked near, for, or had any association with Apple has either went on to form and become something great, or they still work there and are certainly well off... you either work for someone out here or you start your own. You don’t have to kiss ass or take shit, but you also know and recognize when you’re apart of something great Ccv jd. maybe you see it as beta but wether I’m in the tech industry or film industry, when you’re working for someone of that caliber, trust at that level in the game the stakes are extremely high. You keep you’re mouth shut and do whatever the hell they ask. Period! And if you’re gonna open you’re mouth better make damn sure you know what you’re talking about before removing all doubt by everyone in the room 😂
El Mission No they didn’t. The slaves were weak and the stones were very heavy. The pyramids were built by strong, “free” people that wanted to build them to please the pharaoh.
When the Steve Jobs bio came out, full of his scary, abusive techniques like this one, I told a friend who was a shrink here in Silicon Valley that he ought to read it. I started to tell him an anecdote like Andy's here and my friend burst out, angrily, "I don't want to hear it! I've heard ALL about Jobs. He kept every shrink in Silicon Valley employed for years!"
@@myroseaccount - yeah exactly. They read about Jobs doing it and think "Oh well if it worked for him it'll work for me also" but they aren't Steve and don't have even a fraction of his street cred.
@@Face_The_Void People do that shit all the time. Praising people who are arrogant pieces of shit based on their merit. Jobs was a genius no doubt, and without his ruthless behaviour the company probably wouldn't been as succesful. Personally I wouldn't stand a days work for that kind of a boss, some people seem to handle it well and actually perform better though.
He sounds like the toughest boss in the world. Although, I'm sure it's why and how he got the most out of people. I'm not sure I'd last long there though.
what I got from this video is the word genius gets thrown around so easily these days and some ppl like to get whipped, dominated and manipulated by sociopaths.
Or you are one of those people that thinks they know everything yet talks down on a man who’s legacy is everywhere around you. What have you done to better humanity versus him? You don’t even have a pot to piss in on the subject. The only idiot here is you.
Jobs was a genius in that he figured out how to manipulate people into creating his vision for him. Intellectually, Steve was something more of a dunce. He couldn't code, design, engineer, or even explain how his own products worked. He worked closely with marketing teams because manipulation is all about image. He commanded nerds smarter than himself by exploiting their weak social skills, basically forcing them to work until they made exactly what he wanted. Also holding things like money and personal relationships over them, that kind of stuff isn't easy for the average person to do. Those sociopathic traits are common among CEOs, but what makes Jobs special is that he also used that same manipulation on investors and his customer base. That is why Apple had so much capital to start with and the same reason why it has such a cult-like fanboy following. He could negotiate deals and partnerships by leveraging Apple's status as a symbol to make it more present in people's lives. People don't like to get whipped, they're just too weak to give up that kind of money and opportunity to stand up for themselves.
@@riverdays533 believe me, it's not just Job. Actually Job is weaker compared to other famous people. I'm pretty sure Warrent Buffett is as scary as Jobs or even more. Also recently there's an article about Bill Gates confirming he was kinda a prick, was extremely hard on his employees early on at Microsoft. First it's about survival for startups. But then if the startup makes it big they want to keep that competitive edge that's why the CEOs always have to push people harder. And the fastest way is that. Scaring tactics. Same as the military.
Make sure you do not tell us who the interviewee is. Andy Miller, founder of Quattro Wireless. (Had to Google this myself as if never heard of him, either).
Exactly. It’s a power move, he had a leverage & was a complete dick but it worked because people respected the leverage and feared the powerhouse in front of it
@@user-sp1ud6bo8q You're the one asking the question. The answer is right in front of you but you don't understand and never will. We're done here. You're dismissed.
@@justinmckenzie7328 I have. obviously we would have computers duuh but to pretend like jobs contributed so little to the state of current technology is so stupid, if you truly do your research you would understand how impactful he has been to not just singularly phones or computers etc but society in general. apple because of steve jobs has diffused a different ideology into society in loads of ways including technology and business. Steve Wozniak is integral for the initial brilliant hardware however if you ever get into business or anything valuable in life you soon realise that ideas and prototypes are only step1 and massive skill and talent is in execution. Look at any movie ever made. If you tell the plot to a friend you would think its shit but the execution of the movie is the brilliance. Don't reply to this.
fun fact, my first job as a dev my boss had Steve Jobs personality, it was stressing af to work for him but i had to suffer for a year to gain experience, years later i bumped into him and he told me he was testing me if i had what it takes to become a great dev, funny thing is i learned so much in a year at his company
@I dunno But world wasnt built by self righteous morons. You need a driven psychopath every once in a while just need to make sure that they are not too crazy.
I'm fascinated (not necessarily in a good way) by Steve Jobs and the likes of him who take on so much voluntary unneeded stress in life for 1. "Success" 2. Money and 3. Power. But I am more-so fascinated by those who look at people like that as virtuous men or even "good" and then sacrifice their own happiness for a pat on the back by said "type" of person. But the range of the human mind and perceptions is the most fascinating to me. To me, this whole type of lifestyle sounds like utter voluntary HELL.
@@24sumo it's not necessary to have the stress and work style that jobs did to achieve technological advancement, the only time you could argue it's necessary is if you want to achieve such things before your competitors, which is where the greed and lust for power would come in. to say this work style is necessary to avoid living like a caveman is a fallacy.
Frank Ragetti I wouldn’t call him a genius so much as he was a visionary, but yeah. Not very surprising he was so rigid and frankly an asshole towards his death.
@@jjeremyhunterr hahahaha...it only took about 27 comments for someone to finally get it. The guy's a #@&%ing #@%hole. Why is everyone so afraid to say it?
@@martimusmaximus8121 Some people don't like to speak ill of the dead. Others admire the "genius" of his business sense. Others won't diss him for fear of their beloved Apple iSomething blowing up.
I'm imagining the part where I hang my star to him and I get rapidly rich. It's amazing. I'm imagining the Bugatti. I love it. The house in the hills is just a bonus.
I like that Mirror concept assuming it's intentional. Helps you focus on the right person at the right time but also allws the other person to peek-a-boo
Please keep the business content coming! As a student who wants to work in the industry, this kind of content is amazingly insightful and super interesting. Keep it coming and Go Huntsman!
Enslaved is the word you are looking for. fuck Apple and Fuck Steve Jobs, I would walk out of there the second he started playing stupid games. I hate arrogant people that think they are better than others
Just to clarify for those who are still unsure: Steve was a guy who did great things; he was NOT a great man. Far from it, and after dealing with it for a while, objective people would realize that he did NOT have to behave the way he did to get the results he got. Great at his job, but deeply flawed to his detriment.
@@shapursasan9019 I guess that's a fair knock... I'm just someone who met with him multiple times over a ten year span (as both a large Apple customer and an Apple employee), knew many, many people that interacted with him regularly, attended numerous employee-only presentations by him, and worked at Apple for almost six of those years. During all of those events, I saw what I believe to be the two sides of him that I mentioned in my original comment. Acknowledge or dismiss as you see fit.
Steve Jobs was a guy who ordered other guys to do great things. Let’s stop pretending he was a genius, yes he was a good businessman and probably had great creativity but he didn’t invent anything. He told other people what to invent. And he should’ve thanked his ass he had people capable of doing it under him instead of treating them like shits.
What's frightening isn't Steve's personality. It's all the enablers who let him be that way, and all his followers wearing turtle neck shirts, buying his books like Gospel and behaving like him thinking it will yield the same magic. That's more frightening than a Japanese horror movie.
I'd have fucking smacked once in the face if he ever tried any of his scary shit with me. Then he'd never try that bullshit with anyone ever again. He chose wimps that he knew wouldn't stand up to him.
Lol. All these commentors judging him based on what they hear. Read his biography. Catch up on old articles of him. He was an ass. He was abandoned by his original parents, and he abandoned his own daughter until her later years. He treated his employees like shit as a means of conditioning. He knew he was an ass. He owned up to being an ass because he thought he was destined to be great and he proclaimed he was going to die young. He was a man filled with ambition and that meant he was going to get what he wanted. He took Xerox screen and improved on it. He did help revolutionize our commercials, phones, and even computers. He was also one of the co-founders of Pixar too so you could say he helped revolutionize animation. But to say he wasn't an asshole and to blame it on his cancer is balogne. Read his biography. Read up on how he viewed himself.
"He stole Xerox touch screen technology." No, NOT correct. Number 1 Xerox had no idea about what they had and they didn't have a use for it. PLUS Apple did pay them - look it up. Apple did pay them. From the Jobs biography and many other locations " Xerox granted Apple engineers three days of access to the PARC facilities in return for the option to buy 100,000 shares of Apple at the pre-IPO price of $10 a share." I seem to recall that Xerox sold the shares in the not too distant future after getting them.
The problem is not that Steve Jobs was a sociopath (he was). The problem is that people (like in this video) keep referring to sociopaths like him as “genius” and keep sidestepping the fact that he didn’t actually create anything. Real geniuses like Wozniak and many others are the ones we owe good things to. I’ve been an Apple developer for over 14 years, owe my living to the company’s success and products, can acknowledge Steve’s vision for simplicity and attention to detail, but no more that that. We should start idolizing more the people who really create and maintain our technologies and infrastructure, and less the ego tripping execs.
He didn't create anything? His vision for simplicity & detail is literally what made the company what it has become. If it wasn't for that, there literally would be no Apple, no matter how many computers Woz built. There are many, many Woz's in the world, tons of them who are on the Linux side, with thier Raspberry Pi' stuff and Operating systems, and no one knows who they are & probably never will. There was only 1 Steve Jobs.
Well it depends on how you look at this. Woz without Jobs would probably have never made anything remotely as successful as Apple. Jobs without Woz created Pixar and NEXT. That should tell you enough as to who is responsible for Apple's success.
@2wheelmind "Steve Jobs introducing the IPhone at Mac World." That should really be enough said, but I'll elaborate. Not only was he one of the greatest presenters of all time, his drive for excellence is what put Apple at the top of the industry (That's why your paychecks were so nice). Inventors have come and gone with products nobody ever heard of, Steve Jobs was a light tower for his products. When Apple dropped something new, the world stopped what they were doing and watched. Steve Jobs dies, Apple is now irrelevant.
01:00 how is one supposed to know you have to hold the gaze and why is this a good way to filter out people?for example, if you don't say anything and just stare it could easily be interpreted as "oh this guy is a bozo, he just froze in panic and isn't capable"
Interesting that even with the opening methodology of asking a question like "You're close with your Dad?" and then viewing anyone who answered quickly as a "Bozo" who would fill air for nothing is just straight up sociopathic and in a way stupid beyond belief. -Sociopathic for the fact that the 9/10 times we are asked such a question it signals to us (non raging sociopaths) 'this person is willing to be open and potentially real maybe even vulnerable with me, I should engage my empathy, really listen and respond authentically' . -Stupid for it's arrogance and lack of perspective/emotional awareness to judge that such a person's natural response to connect and install a base level of understanding and showing of themselves beyond the job title, is innately a waste of time. A man who achieved much but in many ways so little. Wozniak is far more the man I'd like to work with. Yes, ultimately battles establish empires, give cause to sharpen spears and shore up walls, but diplomacy, understanding and empathy are absolutely imperative to said Empire's root growth and continuation. A leader of of a company and more importantly a man who doesn't see that and intimately understand that let alone neglect to interact with that, is not a man and certainly not a leader.
Wow I've never thought to say that when dicussing a salary or a raise , "let's negotiate I can't negotiate against myself." Employer's never want to just give you a number they just say "oh is that the lowest salary you would go? Because that's what you've listed as your desired salary." I absolutely hate when they say nope and just throw out a number and refuse to even try to negotiate.
Steve Jobs came to my warehouse and burned it down. He said 95% of businesses fail within the 1st 5 years so I might as well start over now….bloody genius.
People need to realise that steve jobs wasnt just a sociopath, he was the sociopath who had to CONTROL ALL THE OTHER SOCIOPATHS. Do you understand what kind of monster it takes to keep those power hungry animals in check? to stop them from absolutely tearing you to pieces at any opening? you have to have unparalleled respect, you have to KNOW your advantages you have over others and fully utilise them to the EXACT degree you have to and not a tiny bit more. Your reputation, but also your ACTIONS are ridiculously under pressure at all times, your responsibilities are absolutely limitless, so yes, steve jobs was a sociopath, but thats because literally everyone in the game is RUTHLESS, look at anyone in a position of power/wealth (same thing), you will find that they are absolutely fucking ruthless, doesnt matter if they show it publically, look hard enough and you will see an animal.
Yeah, its the same reason why many women CEOs are worse than the male ones. Imagine how cold and conniving you need to be to make it as a woman in that cuttthroat, male dominated world. All those people are psychos
@@FreakyStyleytobby Yeah, it's hilarious how many people are calling Jobs an asshole and criticizing his methods, when the dude telling the anecdotes was essentially praising Jobs' methodology.
@@Eorzat Doesn't mater that kind of personally. Shouldn't be complemented. His skills were great but you don't have to be like a drill sergeant to achieve what Apple did.
@@comicdude1996 I mean, that's actually debatable. There's a lot of anecdotes where Jobs wanted timelines that people didn't think were possible. Like they'd want 2 months, and he'd say 2 weeks or something. And he ended up being right a lot of times. Also don't forget that Apple almost went brankrupt after they removed Jobs from the company and then specifically pleaded for him to come back. After his return, their profits began to soar, so there's definitely a correlation between his methodology and Apple's success. I really don't see how you could build a company like Apple, Tesla, etc. without demanding the absolute best from your employees at each and every moment.
I lost them $275million because they closed their ad service (iads) just a few years later. He only wanted beautiful brand ads from the likes of nike, coca cola etc, but the money in mobile advertising is from all the crappy ads
Steve wants everyone to be a tough and good negotiator, and then makes Andy take a $50MM haircut. Working with Steve sounds like pure hell. I think I would have walked out at that point.
Imagine all the Boston “bozo” employees that just found out in this interview that the reason they were told they weren’t moving to Cupertino wasn’t quite true.
First of all, this doesn't feel like a 12 minute interview lol. Secondly, I had heard stories but this was a deep dive that was really kind of inspiring tbh and THAT is why it feels like a 20 minute interview.
It always baffles me that somehow society is accepting the *most* psychological sick/abusing behaviours if that person has "succcess". That the endresult is more worth then the process and its way.
if these people weren't famous, we'd be wondering if the dude being interviewed is OK and deserves to talk to someone after being abused by steve jobs. but because they are worth thousands of millions of dollars, we're supposed to feel jealous of not being the dude being interviewed.
Andy: i was extremely stressed, he shoved knives down my urethra, my life just became an actual nightmare when i started working for him Also Andy: lmaooo hes such a genius hes the best ily steve xoxo ❤️❤️
I ended up watching the whole thing even though I clicked on the video just to be sure it's Hector since it's been years since I saw him (Optic house).
"When people see this they gonna say, 'He wasn't really a nice guy, he may have been a tyrant'. Well that's you - because you never really won anything." - Michael Jordan I always remember that and it's so true, in business, sports, life.
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