Just for a fraction of a second - in the stinger at the end - before "Let's Get Creative!", the lines that morph into the logo are the branches of the color tree from directly above looking down. That's cool.
I did terribly in high school, never went to college or art school. At age 21 I started working on major TV commercials, on the film crew. It was then that I learned about Pantone colors from art directors of major advertising agencies. Before I had even seen the swatch color & color guides, I had seen many of the rolls of seamless Pantone paper. We would often use it in the background for table top close-up shots of products. These were specified either by the client to complement the existing colors of their logo and package design, or they were chosen as background colors that would be easy to calculate later on in the editing process. Although we were shooting The TV commercials on 35 mm film cameras, the editing was being done in early video transfer process, so the colors needed to be very true to the original, so they were many specifics written in the camera notes for the editors to refer to if there was any question about color, tone, color correction, or other adjustments. It was pretty cool because we would look at the Pantone colors on the set and then a week later the editors and the ad agency people would also be referring to the same Pantone colors in the editing process. Of course none of this made much sense when you realized that when the consumer sees the commercial on television, their own TV was dialed in for its own color tones and different hues and shades of specific colors. That’s OK, we did our work and we fulfilled the agency and the clients specifics on maintaining correct color and correct quality of the image. So, that was my introduction to Pantone. I hope others will comment about what their introduction was. It’s fascinating, I wish I had learned about it many years prior.
Hello I understood what Pantone is and it's use but how do we use it while designing in software? Do we have some add-ons to add Pantone to CMYK platelet or do we have to cross check the RGB color to the Pantone book and then tell the Pantone code to client?
Curious, do you pick the colors for a logo from a CMYK value first that matches closely to a Pantone. For example, would it be better to pick the CMYK color orange that is closest to its actual Pantone counterpart before making things?
That is exactly how I work EPHS. Unless the orange is only ever going to be used digitally on screen, or a single use Pantone spot for a print job, then I prefer to work from a CMYK first approach.
Quick Question - So for every single 'Pantone Colour' you use in your print design, the printer will need an extra plate for EACH colour (so if a logo has 3 pantone colours, the print set up might be CYMK+p1+p2+p3 ?) - and this will cost more to have printed? - Thanks!!
I think there is confusion among some commenters when it comes to the word "printer." Rock Your Brand is talking about commercial printers, not your office inkjet.
I designed a label with CMYK color for direct print on the metal canister but after sample print, it is dull can you guide me on how I can make it more attractive and glossy? which Pantone color book is suitable for direct print matching on the metal surfaces?
You should buy yourself a set of Pantone Bridge books. These are the books that I use. They contain both Pantone Solid colours and their CMYK equivalent side by side.
@@RockYourBrand Thank you so much ❣️ I mean my teacher Do the inks come ready in cans or are they mixed with some for the regulars I need an explanation, please
Adnan bhai Thank you for the video. Very helpful. When my logo guys made the logo, they gave me the hex colors. Now my printing company is asking for the Pantone color to have an exact match and I can only find the closest match. Would you suggest I redo the logo in Pantone colors? Thanks
Hi Asad, if you can find a close Pantone match from the Hex colours then you should be okay. Ideally though, the hex colours should have been specified from a Pantone Solid and not the other way around. So if it is doable, then yes, I'd choose a Pantone solid and then use the hex codes that closely match the Pantone.
Hiya, just a quick question. With something like logo designing, is it better to work in sRGB than RGB? Also if your doing a logo design and a poster design for example which includes the brands colours (or potentially doing a poster design that doesn’t include the brands) which colour guide would you suggest for these two areas of design? Thanks Sir
If you are designing something that will be printed, you should be designing in the CMYK colour space. If you start designing in the RGB colour space you will get a big colour shift when converting to CMYK, especially on bright colours. If you are only creating the poster for digital presentation, then RGB is fine, and I would stick with the sTGB colour space as that is the most supported RGB format.
If you are only working in CMYK then I wouldn’t worry too much about getting a colour guide. It’s really only more of an issue if you are wanting to get good close matches between CMYK and Pantone solid colours. There are Pantone CMYK books, but you could probably just get a cheaper CMYK swatch book from Amazon that will give you a good idea of how a CMYK colour looks in print. Do a search on Amazon for: CMYK swatch book You will get a lot of results to choose from. Colour Index XL or Ultimate 3-in-1 Color Tool should be sufficient.
but that does mean that is matters how good the printer is. Like i could pantone my way through Illustrator but if my printer is just not good enough i only will achieve the CMYk result.
You will not be able to produce Pantone colours on a home inkjet or laser printer. You will need to use a commercial printing service if you want to print using Pantone colours.
I don't understand the different between Panton cmyk and Panton solid .... My second question is . Do i have to buy Panton books ? Or choose the color from illustrator or Photoshop is enough ?
CMYK is a 4 colour print process and Pantone Solid is a spot colour printing process. In order to see how a Pantone spot colour accurately,, you will need to buy a Pantone Solid or Pantone Bridge book. You can choose Pantone solids from Photoshop or Illustrator but your screen, unless accurately calibrated will not show you its true colur value.
I need to create a DIY color mixing system for leather edge paints. Are there 12 to 16 pantone colors I can use to create any color I desire within 90% accuracy?
2:55 _" . . . so in order to get your logo onto there, we would need to print using CMYK - which is a four-color process - and introduce a fifth printing plate which would contain the Pantone orange 021 . . ."_ Now are you saying that all printing of graphics containing Pantone colors demands plate printing ? Would it not be possible to use a separate cartridge on a laser printer for this or use a cartridge which has 5 or more nozzles so that the distinct Pantone colored inks could be put into nozzles 5, 6, ..etc and applied wherever the graphics file has it ?
Pantone printing uses Pantone Spot inks which are only available for press printing, so no, you can't print Pantone colours using a laser or inkjet printer. You can get close to Pantone Spot colours using an expanded gamut print process, like CMYK+OGV (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black, Orange, Green & Violet). There are now more commercial print companies offering this type of printing. Pantone have Extended Gamut colour guides. Here is some info on that expanded gamut process: www.xrite.com/blog/5-tools-to-print-extended-gamut
I just got panthoe color briedge coated... becuase the color of what I chose adn what I printed are different... so when you work in illustrator, do I need to make color setting CMYK or RGB,,?
With the store ‘Pantone’ allowing you to find what the RGB / HeX / CYMK for a specific Pantone colour you’ve gone onto. How come you would need to purchase a colour guide (physical copy) because if a client wants you to use there branding colours then you would be able to use the Pantone colour that they tell you, which then enables you to get the RGB colour ect.. from the Pantone website. Would you buy the physical Pantone guide if you was showing a client in person colours they could use for there branding rather than looking at the screen for the Pantone?And is there any other reasons why you would purchase it physically:) If you could get back to me on this when you get a moment it would be much appreciated, thanks.
If a client already has set Pantone colours, then yes, you can use the pantone website to get RGB references. When it comes to CMYK references, you need to be very careful, because some Pantones, especially vibrant Pantones do not replicate well in CMYK, and so you really need to see that in print so you can decide if it is a good enough match, or if you will need to create a better CMYK mix. If you are creating a brand palette from scratch, then yes, I would recommend you get printed books so that you can see the actual physical printed results. You could look at a Pantone red, for example, on the same computer that has two different branded monitors (e.g LG and a Dell) and the colour could look different due to how each monitor handles colour. How do you know which one is going to be the closest to a print using that Pantone red? You can't. When it comes to RGB, it doesn't really matter because you can specify RGB numbers, but it will always look different to each person because we are all using different devices in different lighting conditions using different hardware. When it comes to print colours though, you really want to have a good reference point for accurate colour reproduction and Pantone books will do that. Pantone books seem expensive until you have a mistake with colour in a print run and you have to pay compensation or for the reprint. If you can only afford to buy one Pantone reference guide, I'd recommend the Pantone Bridge Coated book. I hope that helps. - Col
Hi i've read somewhere that ALL printers in the world only print in CMYK? So if I need to print a Pantone or RGB color how do I accomplish this? I didn't quite get it when you said that you need to introduce a fifth printing plate to able to achieve the Pantone orange in your example. Thank you!
Hey there. The information you have been given isn't correct. All printers can print in CMYK, but they don't only print in CMYK. A lot of printers, not all though, can also provide Pantone printing. With CMYK printing on Lithographic presses, the printer uses 4 printing plates, one for each of the 4 colours (Cyan / Magenta / Yellow & Black). If you wanted to have a full-colour photograph printed, then it would be printed using this 4 colour, CMYK process. If you wanted to have a photograph printed and have your logo also printed next to it, or over it at the same time using a Pantone colour, then the printer will need to introduce a fifth plate to use for the Pantone ink for your logo. (CMYK+P). Does that help?
@@RockYourBrand Most inkjet printers expect RGB data. Inkjet printers with CYMK ink cartridges can't produce color outside of the CMYK color space. You'd need an inkjet printer that uses additional ink cartridges. You can't print anywhere near a Pantone color without using CMYKOGV ink cartridges. This means that the printer would make use of 7 ink cartridges instead of the usual 4 ink cartridges; Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black, Orange, Green, and Violet. There are inkjet printers on the market that have this 7 ink cartridge system, but they are neither affordable nor small. These inkjet printers are able to reproduce the Pantone colors with over 90% accuracy. Traditional printers aren't used to produce Pantone colors with 100% accuracy. Usually they mix the colors themselves to get the correct Pantone color with accuracy and use them on a printing press. I don't know the accuracy of printing a Pantone color on an inkjet printer that doesn't use the following additional colors: Orange, Green, and Violet.
Digitally, Pantone is displayed using RGB. Printed colour and on-screen digital colour is VERY difficult to get an exact match. You have lots of variables when it comes to printed colours - Paper colour, paper finishes (gloss, matt, uncoated), lighting etc.
But if I design a logo in CMYK and then convert that into RGB for web. Do I need to specify the color in Pantone aswell? Or is it just for when CMYK doesn't have the color I'm looking for?
That is correct. You will only need to use Pantone colours if there is a colour that you want to achieve in print that cannot be produced in the CMYK colour model.
Hi, I'm back at this video. what do you pick first? cmyk on coated or uncoated? I know that you check cmyk then pantone but I don't know what to check first, the uncoated or coated cmyk.
is there any way to identify the color number or code?. Like say first digit of the number represents to some color and from there its carried forward?
Hi Veena, If you have Adobe Illustrator, there is a way that you can find the closest Pantone colour match to a CMYK or RGB colour. This video shows you how: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BJ2n9NldKmk.html I don't really know of any other way to identify the colour number. Stay Creative! Col
Hi thank you for little introduction. Its been some time im looking to get some info about Pantone but no help... So ofter watching your vid i thought maybe i can ask you. I need to buy a pantone booklet but no shops around me have it... So i need to buy online. But when i go online to buy there are 1001 options to chose from and i dont know which booklet will have the colour that im looking for. So i was wondering if you can guide me on what to do because i emailed pantone and they irresponsibly didnt get back to me...
Hey there. If you will be working with Spot colours, then you can buy their starter book, which has all of the Pantone Solid Spot colours on glossy paper: store.pantone.com/uk/en/starter-guide-solid-coated-uncoated.html I usually recommend though that you also get the book that uses uncoated stocks as well because the colours can look quite different compared to when printed on coated paper. Here is a link to a coated and uncoated set: store.pantone.com/uk/en/formula-guide.html If you will be working mostly with full-colour CMYK printing, then this is a good set to have: store.pantone.com/uk/en/cmyk-set.html If you want to see how a Pantone Solid Spot colour will look if printed as a CMYK colour, then you will need to buy one of their Colour Bridge books: Coated: store.pantone.com/uk/en/color-bridge-coated.html Uncoated: store.pantone.com/uk/en/color-bridge-uncoated.html Set: store.pantone.com/uk/en/color-bridge-set.html None of these books is cheap, however, they are invaluable when it comes to maintaining colour accuracy in print. I hope this helps. Col.
Coated means the ink is printed onto a coated paper stock so the ink sits more on the surface and is more vibrant. For example a glossy paper stock. With uncoated the ink is printed onto uncoated paper stock and do the ink soaks into the paper and so the ink looks more muted and flat. An example would be printing letterheads which are usually on uncoated paper stocks. Many people choose the solid coated option as it looks better on screen and most of the time coated stocks may be used for printing branding materials.
@@RockYourBrand I'm using affinity designer, there isn't PANTONE + Solid, instead it has PANTONE + Color Bridge and PANTONE + Formula Guide Solid. Which one should I opt?
I would choose the option that is best suited for the end result. I only ever use Pantone colours if I know I will be printing using Pantone inks, which is not very often. I always start designing in CMYK and then if I need to use a Pantone colour later I will match it to the CMYK.
Thanks for this video. I'm thinking about investing in a Pantone color chart. Are all Pantone color charts/swatches the same or should I look for a certain brand? Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.
Hi Deon, Only Pantone make the Pantone swatch books. if you see one on sale that is not made by Pantone, do not purchase it. For me, the best value book to get is the Pantone Bridge book. These books have all of the Pantone solid colours and alongside each one, it has the CMYK equivalent. You can get this book in Coated and Uncoated versions. I'd suggest that coated is probably the one to go for if you can only afford one book.
Hi Veenood, you can't print spot colours using the CMYK process. In order to print as close as spot colour as possible, without actually using Pantone inks, you would need to find a printer that can do 6 or 8 colour process printing. Here is a link with some information on that: www.lifewire.com/4-6-8-color-process-printing-1077448
Hi, I don't know if my method to pick a pantone color is the best, when I'm working in illustrator I use RGB and CMYK and then ask my client if they like it for web, social media etc, but when it comes to choosing the pantone for the business cards I pick 3-4 color similar to the RGB and CMYK colors show them the pantone guide and I let them chose the color they pictured in their mind for their brand. What you think about that?
Hi Lucy, If that system works for you then great :) However, in saying that, the purpose of Pantone is to ensure colour consistency, so really you should be specifying the Pantone that matches the CMYK/RGB colour. I personally wouldn’t leave the decision to the client as it is too important. You really need to choose the final Pantone colours under natural lighting from a Pantone book. Never ask someone to choose a Pantone colour on screen. The variables are too large due to personal colour, brightness, and contrast choices as well as installed colour calibrations.
Question for you...Can you help me understand the Pantone 14-Series ? I am asking as the Major League Baseball rules specifiy that gloves may not be lighter than the current 14-series Pantone. Thanks
Hi David, as far as I am aware, Pantone-14 is a range from the Pantone TCX (textile) range. Here is a link to a page that shows the 14 range from that collection. www.hyatts.com/pantone/smart-textile-swatches-14-xxxx-2.3304
Tbh I am still having a hard time understanding the using the fifth plate for printing. So what I got is after printing with cmyk it will print over them? or is like another ink used with the cmyk? or is like a whole different set of inks for each color unlike cmyk? Like that 021 pantone orange is actually an ink by itself?
Hey Mohammed, Yes, that is correct on all counts there if you have artwork that is CMYK plus Pantone colour(s). The CMYK element of your artwork will be printed first, then the artwork will be sent through the print machine again and the Pantone colour will be printed. Yes, Pantone colours come premixed as an actual ink colour.
You will struggle to get a good match on Pantone Solid Spot colours using just CMYK. There is a way to be able to replicate almost 90% of the Pantone Solid colours using the process printing system. To do that you use standard CMYK but also add in extra colour plates, which is OGV (Orange, Green, Violet). You would need to check with your printer whether or not they have the ability for that process. This PDF from Pantone gives a very detailed overview: www.pantone.com/downloads/support/FAQ/Pantone-FAQ-Extended-Gamut-Coated-Guide-20150910.pdf?ver=2
Not all printers will use Pantone Inks. For example, printers who specialise in digital printing will not be able to offer Pantone colours. Most lithographic printers will be able to offer Pantone as an option.
It is really helpful. But what is the difference between Pantone and NCS color system? Pantone is mainly used to Graphic Design and NCS mainly used to Architecture and Interior Design. Is it Correct?
Yes, Pantone makes a lot of sense. There had to be an industry standard in order to have continuity and maintain the exact color tones especially with logos and signs with the logos and other product or service information. Interesting to search brand logos, for example McDonalds. They are very specific about what red and yellow they use. That is why a McDonald’s logo in Tokyo will have the exact same colors as a McDonald’s in Seattle Washington, or a McDonalds in Mexico City.
Hi, I have a pastel colour palette. I'm not sure if I should go for pantone solid or pantone pastel. I have 6 colours, some colours look different in pastel and solid. I'm using hex to find pantone, one pantone for each box design. Do u think pantone pastel is easy to source and print or should I just use pantone solid? Thank you!
Hey there Quiponi. I wouldn't recommend mixing between Pantone Solid and Pantone Pastel. The best thing to do is to speak to the print company that will be doing the printing. They will be able to give you the correct instruction :)
Have you ever seen Hilda on Netflix, long story short the colors are amazing and, I want to make art and products with the beautiful daytime colors of the show. I used ColorViewfinder the app to checkout them but, it’s RGB, so I tried converting it to RAL(which I don’t understand) and on screen at least it was not what I was looking for, how can I get these colors and am I going about it all wrong.
Hi, Unfortunately if you want to create printed products it can be difficult to get the vibrancy of RGB in print. The standard print colour format is CMYK and it simply can't reproduce the vibrancy of the RGB colour system. You would have to use Pantone spot colours if you wanted vibrant colours in print, but this can be an expensive process. The RAL colour system is used more for interior design/architecture as it relates to plastics, vinyl and paints.
If you buy the colour bridge guide, do u also need to purchase the ‘Pantone connect’ when using photoshop / illustrator ? Also I was curios wether Pantone connect is better than getting the a Pantone colour manager software ?
When you buy a Pantone colour book, you can download Pantone Colour Manager for free by using the registration code inside your Pantone colour book. With Pantone Colour Manager you can export Pantone swatches to your Adobe Software. I have a video that shows you how to do that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TBhX3FHBnhk.html As I use Pantone colour manager, I have never had to use the Pantone Connect extension.
In traditional Lithographic printing processes, Pantone colours are printed using their own printing plate. So for example, most printing is done using the CMYK colour format and you have 4 printing plates. One for Cyan, one for Magenta, one for Yellow and one for Black. When you want to add a Pantone colour to your prints, you need to add an extra printing plate for each Pantone you want. So you would have your basic 4 plates for CMYK plus any additional plates for your Pantone spot colours. This is why printing using Pantone colours is usually more expensive than standard CMYK printing. But if you want vibrant or metallic colours, then you need to implement Pantone colours. Today, many digital printers are able to closely replicate Pantone colours. As they don't use the same plate printing process as Lithographic printing, it can be much cheaper. Digital printers work to achieve more vibrant colours by adding Orange, Green & Violet to the stadard CMYK. So when looking at print suppliers, you can ask if they also do CMYK+OGV, and if they can, then you would be able to get much more vibrant colours in your prints without having to use Pantone inks. You would still need to use Pantone or foil if you wanted metallic finishes though.
Hi, if I convert CMYK to Pantone Solid on Adobe Illustrator, should I have the desired color from the digital file when I print it through digital printing process? And if I print this file on the same type of paper on different printers, will the colors match? Thanks
Hi, digital print processes can't print Pantone Spot (solid colours). Some large format digital printers that use the CMYK+OGV colour process (also known as extended gamut) can get near to Pantone spot colours, but they won't be an exact match. You must use Lithographic print processes to get accurate Pantone spot colour printing. If you use Pantone spot colours with Lithographic printing on the same type of paper, you will get the same accurate colour each time.
@@Met9171 I'm not sure as I don't use mobile apps for editing. I would suggest contacting the developer of the app and ask if they support Pantone colours :)
hey Jan-Paul, TPG and TCX are Pantone standards usually used in the fashion and home interiors industry and show how Pantone colours will look when printed on fabric. For more in-depth information, check out this web page: www.designinfo.in/Buy-India/pantone-tpg-vs-pantone-tcx-6-differences-explained-in-detail-107
When i use the color picking tool in PS to find a Pantone Color that matches my chosen color, for example Pantone 457C, the RGB and CMYK values that I get in PS for this exact Pantone color are different from the ones on the Pantone Website. Can you please tell me why that is?
It is because Pantone and Adobe don’t play well together. There isn’t a solution to that problem I’m afraid. I tend to stick to the numbers in my Pantone books.
@@RockYourBrand Thanks a lot for your quick reply! I am a photographer and don't know much about graphic design and printing, but I am helping out a friend with her logo. She did the logo in canva and I vectorized it for her. She gave me the hex codes of her color schemes. I told her that i need to have a look at it, if we can continue using the same color and now i am just even more confused on how to find the right values that work for rgb, cmyk and pantone. What would you recommend to be a good workflow. 1.) Find a Pantone color that matches the most and use the rgb/cmyk values on the website. Or 2.) choose the color that she selected on her own, and in case they need a print with a pantone color, we have a "matching" one, but there will be deviations to the original color. Because the problem is that she doesnt like the matching pantone color that much.
You can only simulate Pantone colour on some desktop and office printers. To print true Pantone colours you have to use commercial printing presses. Xerox has a range of printers that simulate A close approximation to Pantone spot colours.. www.xerox.co.uk/en-gb/office/printers/phaser-6500/specifications
If I have a pantone color, how do I get the RGB nr or hex-code that matches? I make my own design in canva and I have to get the color right before I send it to the printer. I wonder if a colorbook is usefull to buy. Does it include the right RGB and hex-code numbers? Because without that, buying a book would be useless I guess.
Hi Miranda, yes, the Pantone Solid Colour guides give you RGB codes. If you already know the Pantone colour, you can use the Pantone website to get the RGB/Hex codes. Here is a link to the page: www.pantone.com/color-finder Find the Pantone colour on that page and click on it. It will open a new page giving you the RGB and Hex codes. I hope that helps. Cheers, Col
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Hi, You can use the Pantone website to find RGB and CMYK formulas for Pantone colours. I had a quick look and it doesn't look like Pantone 5375U exists. I did find Pantone 537U though: www.pantone.com/color-finder/537-U
Quick questions bro my client gives me a pantone color it something like pantone 123(i do not remember the number) trx(don't remember if it was exactly this) now i ask my designer to add this for printing and he says he needs the pantone number from the pms coated book so what did the client send me? How is Pms coated book printable and not the pantone number that the client provided also recently a client came to me with a file that was made in RGB thats what the designer told me now he says that the colours when they are converted to CMYK they will be dull so now how do i get the same exact color printed that client has sent me? Please help a brother out i am new to this industry and this shit is confusing af also where should i start from if i want to learn all this
Hey Qamar, It can get really confusing. If the client wants to their artwork to be printed as a Pantone (e.g Pantone 123) then that is what is known as a spot colour. If they gave you a Pantone number, then that number will be in the Pantone PMS books. PMS stands for Pantone Matching System. If the client wants to have the Pantone colour printed, then it needs to be printed as a spot colour, which is different from the CMYK printing system. If there are other images or graphics that need to be printed alongside the Pantone spot colour, then the artwork would need to be CMYK + the spot colour (5 colour printing). As soon as you start adding a spot colour to CMYK printing the price starts to rise quickly. An option is to choose a CMYK colour that is a close match to the Pantone spot colour. The problem there is that that CMYK colour system is quite limited and it can't achieve the vibrancy or brightness of a lot of Pantone spot colours. With regards to the RGB to CMYK, your designer is correct. The colours will look muted and dull when printed. RGB has a much wider colour range (gamut) than CMYK and so you can have much brighter colours in RGB. When you conver from RGB to CMYK you are narrowing that colour range and as a result you lose the ability to have really bright colours. If you want bright colours in print then you need to use Pantone spot colours or get into expensive 5, 6, 7 or even 8 colour plate printing. I hope I haven't confused you even further!
If you want consistent accurate colour on every single print run you do, then Pantone colours will give you that accuracy and consistency. Other print processes, other than RAL (which is intended for industrial uses) won't give you precise colour control in your prints.
