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Except you expressed humans as a four in one nature, but that comes closer to explaining the seven Spirits of God in several scriptures.

That would also be Modalism

I think is modalism again

God is timeless in all His Persons, except for when Jesus submitted to living within creation for the purpose of winning our salvation.

* God is not within space and time because if he is, then he is a created being which is Heresy.

@@UnngoyTMTayo God is not *bound* by space and time, since He created it. But being ominscient, He is in everything, even His creation. Even within those who believe.

Comparing to a game developer may be the right track, but Jesus is not just the avatar (John 1:1-3). Somehow the developer must willfully become part of the game while remaining the developer.

@@deanfry879 * Yup! I did not say he is JUST an avatar the point is he needs flesh (vessel) to dwell with us that is why he was born and represents God the Father's Will religiously. He has a Will of his own yet He aligned it perfectly with the Creator being the best Representation of His image as He is God in human form.

All true, but what does it explain? How can two (or more) be so alike that to know one is to know the other? In what sense is Jesus the Son? We normally think of a son as being younger than his father, but this Son has always existed.

@@AspectOfTheArchivist Yes, but there never has been any misalignment between the Father and the Son, as your comment possibly could be implied.

1÷1÷1=1 1×1×1=1

Be careful that analogy describes modalism

Good one

Brother, father, son

A man can be all those things to someone else at the same time, but in relation to himself could end up with some pretty weird thinking. Dad and son indicate coming into being at different times, while God is co-eternal in spite of the terms Father and Son. In what sense is Jesus the Son, since He is mature and complete from eternity? Or another way to ask the same question: In what sense is the Father the Father since Jesus always existed and had no need of being raised. A good thought, but still with limited merit, like every other illustration.

That's one person, God is three persons. So that doesn't work

Modalism again, you are describing God as one Person with different modes or roles. But scripture says that He is one but triune, 3 Persons not 1.

How do you explain 1 John 5:7? “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

@@ChristianConservative639 You should look at the prior scripture in the verses before that one. It refers to the moment of Jesus Christ baptism. And other Bible translations makes more sense of it than old English. It refers to "the spirit" that observed Jesus Christ baptism, known as Jehovah. "The water" which refers to the body of Jesus getting baptized and "the blood" which refers to the sacrifice. Without Jesus Christ sacrifice the holy spirit would not be made manifest. It's why some feel the holy spirit within them and lead congregations to God's word. It's how God's word the Bible survived all these years by the will and holy spirit of the people of God working through them despite opposition to censor and destroy the Bible from governments and secret society's in the past.

You said the Trinity is a false doctrine but you didn’t answer how the Father, the Son (the Word), and the Holy Spirit are one. Scripture is clear that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. Each of the three persons have always existed eternally. I’m asking what is the evidence for the Trinity being a false doctrine?

@@ChristianConservative639 We are made in God's image. Yet, there is no Trinity of you and no Trinity of me. The closest thing we have to the Trinity is that of the family. Not some obscure thing that is overly complex.

@@soulsage1984 What do you mean exactly when you say we are made in God’s image?

GOD THE FATHER ‭‭John‬ ‭14:28‬ ‭NIV‬‬ [28] “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the FATHER IS GREATER THAN I. JESUS CHRIST ‭‭John‬ ‭13:16‬ ‭NIV‬‬ [16] Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a MESSENGER GREATER THAN THE ONE WHO SENT HIM. ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:6‭-‬8‬ ‭ESV‬‬ [6] who, though HE WAS IN THE FORM OF GOD, DID NOT COUNT EQUALITY WITH GOD a thing to be grasped, [7] but emptied himself, by taking the FORM OF A SERVANT, being born in the likeness of men. [8] And being found in HUMAN FORM, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. HOLY SPIRIT (THE DESIGNER) ‭‭John‬ ‭14:26‬ ‭NIV‬‬ [26] But the Advocate, the HOLY SPIRIT, WHOM THE FATHER WILL SEND in my name, WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS and will remind you of everything I have said to you. Genesis‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭NIrV‬‬ [2] The earth didn’t have any shape. And it was empty. There was darkness over the surface of the waves. At that time, the SPIRIT OF GOD was hovering over the waters. ‭‭Psalm‬ ‭104:30‬ ‭NIrV‬‬ [30] When you send your SPIRIT, YOU CREATE THEM. You give NEW LIFE TO THE GROUND. ‭Matthew 1:20 ESV‬ [20] But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is CONCEIVED IN HER IS FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT.

How do you explain 1 John 5:7? “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

@@ChristianConservative639 * The context in 1 John 5:6-12 is "Testimony concerning Jesus". Particularly for verse 7 it describes how these 3 persons testify in unison and in agreement, which signifies the "Trinity". A good example for this is what you can read in verse 8 and it says: ‭I John 5:8 NKJV‬ [8] And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one. * The Spirit which is the truth (verse 6): ‭1 John 5:6 ESV‬ [6] This is he who came by water and blood-Jesus Christ; not by the water only but by the water and the blood. And the Spirit is the one who testifies, because the SPIRIT IS THE TRUTH. * The water which is the Will of God the Father to believe in the Son: ‭1 Peter 3:21 NIV‬ [21] and this WATER SYMBOLIZES BAPTISM that now saves you also-not the removal of dirt from the body but the PLEDGE OF A CLEAR CONSCIENCE TOWARD GOD. It saves you by the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST, * And the Blood is Jesus himself as the sacrificial fulfillment of the New covenant: ‭Hebrews 9:16-18 ESV‬ [16] For where a will is involved, the death of the one who made it must be established. [17] For a will takes effect only at death, since it is not in force as long as the one who made it is alive. [18] Therefore not even the first covenant was inaugurated without blood. ‭Hebrews 9:24-26 ESV‬ [17] For a will takes effect only at death, since it is not in force as long as the one who made it is alive. [20] saying, “This is the blood of the covenant that God commanded for you.” [24] For Christ has entered, not into holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true things, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf. [25] Nor was it to offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters the holy places every year with blood not his own, [26] for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF.