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What did Julius Caesar really look like? 

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Julius Caesar is the most famous Roman. But when we look closely at his ancient portraits, it becomes clear that the familiar image of Caesar may be very different from his actual appearance.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:55 Portraiture in the Late Republic
2:21 The evidence for Caesar's appearance
3:26 Squarespace!
4:11 The Tusculum Portrait
4:40 Images of the Deified Caesar
6:04 The Green Caesar
6:38 The Arles Bust

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@DanGoodShotHD
@DanGoodShotHD 2 года назад
Caesar's greatest achievement is the fact he's still relevant 2000+ years after his death. That's eternal life.
@bernardobiritiki
@bernardobiritiki 2 года назад
Even better almost all important people those 2000 years after tried to be you
@sonwig5186
@sonwig5186 2 года назад
He's mainly relevant because of Augustus's propoganda.
@JamesTaylor-on9nz
@JamesTaylor-on9nz 2 года назад
@@sonwig5186 I hate this sort of cynical, reddity hot-take where people have to drag down everything that people think is important or respected, as if cynicism passes for actual academic knowledge. In your case you got it absolutely backward. Augustus used Caesar in his propaganda BECAUSE he was relevant, widely respected and seen as a man of the people. Octavius was an unknown, hence why we drew the connection between himself and someone who was already widely known as a mostly successful leader, general and statesmen.
@ollie4022
@ollie4022 2 года назад
@@JamesTaylor-on9nz That’s not necessarily true. Caesar was, as far as we know, liked. People saw him as a patriot, although that was far from the truth, overly ambitious is the word I would use. However, people also loved Pompey before the civil war. In fact, many great generals were loved by the people in Rome at the time. Yet, most people today know of Caesar but not Pompey. I think it’s down to the fact that Caesar immortalised himself as essentially dictator in all sense bar name, and also because Octavian and Mark Anthony made him out to be some kind of god after his assassination. The people of Rome were very impressionable (which is something Caesar knew and took advantage of during his life as well), and obviously Octavian is only going to praise his adopted father. By the time Octavian became august, Caesar was considered to be a god, which was basically Octavian’s doing.
@spitfire7381
@spitfire7381 2 года назад
@@ollie4022 it also does help that much more of literary works survived of Caesar than Pompey. this makes him much more reliable when it comes to recording history, especially when figuring things out in one of the most intense periods of ancient history
@frozenwarning
@frozenwarning 2 года назад
I'm really surprised that you say the two ancient statues of him are so different from each other, because to me their comparison illustrates the commonality of the two depictions like sketches of a model in a drawing class. The similarities are uncanny and the differences seem so minor. Just goes to show how we all see things differently. I especially like the way you see things, too. Love your channel. Your narration is so relaxing and informative.
@GaryHess
@GaryHess 2 года назад
I thought the same as you. They looked similar enough.
@mr.berardine1694
@mr.berardine1694 2 года назад
I thought they both looked the same as well.
@anthonylogiudice9215
@anthonylogiudice9215 2 года назад
0:32 - the two statues are very similar - you have the long neck, the balding head, the prominent nose. The face on the left does look more gaunt than the other statue. I think this is a reach to say they are so different. Quite the opposite...
@maxlee9512
@maxlee9512 2 года назад
Yeah, same. It was the cheekbones and mouth / lips that sealed it for me.
@gk.spinoza
@gk.spinoza 2 года назад
Any depictions of Caesar would be created by masters, not art student in a drawing class.
@hyperactivehyena
@hyperactivehyena 2 года назад
Caesar must have been a smiley guy in life- the older the portraits get, the more of a cheeky smirk he gets on his face. It seems to disappear as his legacy grew into a more stoic and serious one.
@OneEyedKeys
@OneEyedKeys 2 года назад
According to the great historian Will Durant, Caesar made habitual use of every woman he could get his hands on, including wives of Senators. It was public knowledge at the time, and his soldiers had nicknames for him. I suppose beyond campaign politics in the luxurious tents in Gaul, or statesmenship in the palaces in Rome, he had enough slices of pie to keep a mischeiveous smirk on his face until the turmoil towards the end; when excessive partying rendered him more gaunt and sallow.
@Aurelian369_
@Aurelian369_ 2 года назад
@@OneEyedKeys caesar when he sees a woman: 🤪🤪🤪🤪
@cristhianramirez6939
@cristhianramirez6939 2 года назад
Caesar strikes me as the funny uncle type, like making inapropriate jokes on delicate subjects type of humour
@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588
@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 2 года назад
@@cristhianramirez6939 the funny uncle who conquered Europe
@Aurelian369_
@Aurelian369_ 2 года назад
@@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 I love it when my funny uncle kills 1/3 of gaul
@varolussalsanclar1163
@varolussalsanclar1163 2 года назад
I must be blind cause the busts in 0:46 looks almost identical, but differences that very well may only be caused by the carving technique of the artist. Just like how if you told van Gogh and Monet to draw the same tree, you would get two different paintings of the same tree.
@VenturaIT
@VenturaIT 2 года назад
Yeah, not sure what this video is about?
@ashharris7293
@ashharris7293 2 года назад
Mostly lighting, both are clearly Caesar. When the Tusculum Caesar is viewed from profile, it is a perfect match for the coins.
@sampuatisamuel9785
@sampuatisamuel9785 2 года назад
The video is very interesting nevertheless. It give us lots of insights into portraiture of ancient Roman leaders
@CurtisD01
@CurtisD01 2 года назад
the newer one is more masculine and square and more idealized
@James-bc7sk
@James-bc7sk Год назад
Glad I'm not the only one
@bubbles190
@bubbles190 2 года назад
Why did no one ever take a photo of him?
@tigergaminggr8079
@tigergaminggr8079 2 года назад
Cameras were very expensive back then
@mickeyray3793
@mickeyray3793 2 года назад
There were no drug stores around to get the film developed.
@deewesthill4705
@deewesthill4705 2 года назад
@@mickeyray3793 That explains it! 😆
@tobiastave5455
@tobiastave5455 2 года назад
I heard that Julie spent a lot of time at the baths, hanging out, mingling, posing about, quite often in the nude. Sometimes with a large laurel leaf and few figs covering his private particles and bald patches. So, I think Julie was very cautious and wary when it came to cameras and photoshoots. Although these facts aren't set in stone....
@deewesthill4705
@deewesthill4705 2 года назад
@@tobiastave5455 That sounds like anonymous ancient slander by political enemies.
@RandomlyGeneratedUsername
@RandomlyGeneratedUsername 2 года назад
At 0:41 while the heads and necks are different the main facial features resemble each other - the ridge above the eyes, the nasolabial folds, and for the most part the nose and the chin as well as the size and shape of the mouth and many of the larger wrinkles. This would indicate that the features are shared with the man himself.
@sskspartan
@sskspartan 2 года назад
I also find it likely one was based on his older self
@ashharris7293
@ashharris7293 2 года назад
They are clearly the same man. The main view of the Tusculum Caesar that everyone uses is this one shot with the camera shooting slightly up (with a strong shadow) while the other bust is from a higher angle looking down and much better lighting. Look at the Tusculum Caesar from the side view compared to the coins....as close to 100% as you can get for an identification of Caesar!
@JohnPebis
@JohnPebis 2 года назад
Right? I feel like they actually look very similar and share the same key features.
@alisn.7998
@alisn.7998 2 года назад
Yes, clearly the same fellow. What’s not taken into account is that different artists create slightly different interpretations of the model. Also, they’re taken at different ages, and as we all know, some people age well, and others don’t. I think Caesar aged pretty well. Incidentally, I don’t think he has a ‘comb over’…it’s the style for his times. I hardly think a man of his influence and power would care if his hair was thinning. I’ve never understood why men are bothered, as the majority of women really don’t judge a man by his hair…unless it’s a comb over or a toupee.
@THISISLolesh
@THISISLolesh 2 года назад
0:30 they don’t look completely different at all haha, can clearly tell both are based on the same person.
@lucas9269
@lucas9269 2 года назад
The angle changes things a bit too.
@snape539
@snape539 2 года назад
Thought the same thing xD
@snape539
@snape539 2 года назад
@@lucas9269 Not enough changes to say its a completely different person tho
@jbvap
@jbvap 2 года назад
Lol I was gonna say. I thought he was going to cite that as two similar examples.
@JakeKilka
@JakeKilka 2 года назад
@@jbvap Exactly, I thought they are almost identical. This my first time watching the channel, makes me suspicious of quality lol
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 2 года назад
I think Ferrucci’s bust of Caesar is one of the finest works of art ever made. I’ve yet to come across another sculpted face imbued with such humanity.
@kanyekubrick5391
@kanyekubrick5391 2 года назад
That one Caracalla bust is probably the best I’ve seen
@jennybarton6057
@jennybarton6057 2 года назад
@@kanyekubrick5391 Agreed - a remarkable and unnerving portrait
@epicfish8134
@epicfish8134 2 года назад
Like a old Italian
@Foster_B
@Foster_B 2 года назад
an :)
@bouncycastle955
@bouncycastle955 2 года назад
@@Foster_B like a old an
@EinFelsbrocken
@EinFelsbrocken 2 года назад
@@bouncycastle955 😁😁😂
@LonnieGeraghty
@LonnieGeraghty 2 года назад
Dude if you’re telling me that Caesar looked like my grandfather that’s hilarious
@TreyPDB
@TreyPDB 2 года назад
pretty much
@echonomix_
@echonomix_ 2 года назад
Just want to let you know that your content is top-tier. A little oasis from the chaos of our times. I've learned a lot of extremely interesting things through your uploads, and they definitely enrich my life. Keep up the great work.
@georgefreemon2935
@georgefreemon2935 2 года назад
Kind of like Alexander’s statues. There are some that are very similar than others that look WAY different.
@Hugh_Morris
@Hugh_Morris 2 года назад
My guess is that the ones that look way different are idealised; he has more hair, he looks younger, his features are stronger. That was the Augustus model of statues.
@georgefreemon2935
@georgefreemon2935 2 года назад
@@Hugh_Morris To be fair they all kind of share the same facial type features it’s mainly just the nose and hair.
@funfact8660
@funfact8660 2 года назад
Caesar looked like Rex Harrison obviously
@histguy101
@histguy101 2 года назад
Hellenistic ruler's portraits all look the same. They're like the Greek equivalent of Egyptian portraits, which are very naturalistic and proportionate, but very idealized. Roman portraits from the 3rd-1st century bc are generally very realistic and not idealized.
@bentonrp
@bentonrp 2 года назад
@Fun Fact Good call. I also thought Ciaren Hines was a great portrayal, and portrayed him well, in HBOs Rome.
@xaviotesharris891
@xaviotesharris891 2 года назад
More than 2,000 years after his death, there are still fresh flowers left every day in the temple built over his funeral pyre.
@RubinGrolsch
@RubinGrolsch 2 года назад
What's also interesting is that the earliest bust also shows a protrusion on his head, supposedly from childbirth. If the artist wanted to idealize caesar, this would obviously be one of the first things to scrap, so its precence indicates that the rest of the bust is also fairly realistic.
@29outlaw
@29outlaw 2 года назад
So we add comb over to the list of stuff that Romans invented.
@TM-fu2we
@TM-fu2we 2 года назад
lol😂
@akiramoon5272
@akiramoon5272 2 года назад
The Romans did not invent drainage, sewers, concrete, the alphabet, the aqueduct, gladiators (Etruscans) or roads, but they did develop them. They did invent our calendar’s earlier version and underfloor heating.
@veespa_
@veespa_ 2 года назад
I’m so glad I found your channel, I’m hooked! The treasure videos are my favorite but now I can’t keep watching more... keep up the good work my friend, thank you. I think it’s incredibly admirable and just fantastic that you took your passion, specialized in it, and then gave back to the public with educational content.
@max9739
@max9739 2 года назад
The right one just looks more detailed tbh, you've gotta remember that between 2 artists you're always going to have different art styles too, and the features are similar, even if he was one or another or something in-between he'd still look like the Caesar we know, since paintings and interpretations have always been different
@azahel542
@azahel542 2 года назад
True, when shown side by side you can see that they're definitelly the same person.
@limolnar
@limolnar 2 года назад
Yes I see what you mean. Your speech is more measured and practiced. A great video with fantastic topics and well layed-out. Look forward to more! :)
@handsomegeorgianbankrobber3779
@handsomegeorgianbankrobber3779 2 года назад
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@PinballCollection
@PinballCollection 2 года назад
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@jimjames4875
@jimjames4875 2 года назад
Hey mate I just got your book as a birthday present and am enjoying it. Really enjoy your videos as well.
@Nebulasecura
@Nebulasecura 2 года назад
Love history, and this channel is the first one I’m seeing ancient history coverage. Beauty of history is you always got something to learn about!
@abc-oq7dt
@abc-oq7dt 2 года назад
Have a look at Historia Civilis, it looks like a slideshow at first glance but honestly his videos are wonderful
@mitch8072
@mitch8072 2 года назад
check out Invicta to
@evanwilliams3645
@evanwilliams3645 2 года назад
History Time! And Fall of Civilizations are two good ones as well
@AleskyMaxomovishPeshkov
@AleskyMaxomovishPeshkov Год назад
Did they have square jawlines back then? Why did most, if not all ancient artwork and sculptures only seem to show round faced men and women?
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 2 года назад
Closer than trying to work out what King Canute looked like from old coins.
@danielburger1775
@danielburger1775 2 года назад
Read Hardouin. One of the biggest frauds of the 17th and 18th centuries was making "ancient" and "medieval" coins, burying them, and then "finding" them, and making money out of them. Pretty much all "ancient" and "medieval" coins in museums, private collections etc. today were made in the last 400 years.
@fetus2280
@fetus2280 2 года назад
Did you mean Cnut ? Thats how its spelled if so, Cheers .
@user-bo3mp8un6c
@user-bo3mp8un6c 2 года назад
@@danielburger1775 There are tests that can be done Daniel to determine the true date
@user-ts2ny8jg9d
@user-ts2ny8jg9d 2 года назад
@@fetus2280 you can also spell it as Canute, cheers
@danielburger1775
@danielburger1775 2 года назад
@@user-bo3mp8un6c Such as? Edit: you don't mean c14 analysis, do you? Because that is not reliable.
@jec1ny
@jec1ny 2 года назад
Another great video. Also enjoyed your book.
@PainCrashDaGPuff3000
@PainCrashDaGPuff3000 2 года назад
I just want to say I appreciate you and your channel very much. You remind me very much of my history teachers that held major passion in what they taught.
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 2 года назад
I'm very glad to hear that!
@joshuabessire9169
@joshuabessire9169 2 года назад
We need a buff, naked Eisenhower in the Capitol Rotunda.
@edwhatshisname3562
@edwhatshisname3562 2 года назад
Aww.. bad mental image. Could you imagine if we still did that kind of stuff today, and Biden had a statue made?
@paulburns1333
@paulburns1333 2 года назад
As the old chestnut goes, you can't unsee that.
@deewesthill4705
@deewesthill4705 2 года назад
@@edwhatshisname3562 Ew, gross!!! 🤢🤮 I'm so glad i wasn't eating when I read that. 😆
@PwnCrackers
@PwnCrackers 2 года назад
@@edwhatshisname3562 he'd be too skinny
@Perririri
@Perririri 2 года назад
@@edwhatshisname3562 Fvck Joe Biden? Not after seeing his statue! 😘
@PatrickSnowyote
@PatrickSnowyote 2 года назад
I absolutely LOVE your incorporation of numismatics into your work.
@TheFreshSpam
@TheFreshSpam 2 года назад
Just wanted to add I just received your book in the post and cant wait to read it. Been a long wait but the book looks and feels beautiful. Bigger than I thought too!
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol 2 года назад
What if the guy on the pizza box is the most accurate of them all?
@bentonrp
@bentonrp 2 года назад
That would be funny, because it's not even suppose to be Ceasar, but the son of Ceasar. And not his adopted son, Octavian, but his Egyptian-raised son by Cleopatra. His name was Caesarion, which is Latin for "Little Ceasar."
@atlasfrog5730
@atlasfrog5730 2 года назад
@@bentonrp His name was Ptolomy, but his nickname was Caesarion, since like half of Egypt was named Ptolomy at that time lol
@nathancollins1715
@nathancollins1715 Год назад
@@bentonrp It's always fascinated me that Caesarion, after surviving the purge of Octavian, went on to open a pizza parlor in America. Really interesting bit of historical trivia
@bentonrp
@bentonrp Год назад
@@nathancollins1715 lol. Yeah, he's the Aeneas of America.
@tthompson9244
@tthompson9244 2 года назад
To my eye, the two busts at the beginning of your video look like the same person. Great channel btw.
@Vegas2332
@Vegas2332 2 года назад
I love this channel! I learn something new about ancient Rome each video. I had no clue that Death Masks were a thing, super cool to learn about them
@evanp1225
@evanp1225 2 года назад
Another interesting video, thanks! I really enjoy the way you communicate this stuff. Every sentence has me thinking, "Tell me more..."
@mutualbeard
@mutualbeard 2 года назад
Thank you for another interesting video.
@TWOCOWS1
@TWOCOWS1 2 года назад
Excellent, and well evidenced and reasoned.. Thank you for your astuteness, Doc
@lilylove2021
@lilylove2021 2 года назад
"aggressively decrepit" I would hate to have an argument with you!! Love your bids Sara Gibson
@funfact8660
@funfact8660 2 года назад
Cleopatra knew a few things
@happycamper4ever873
@happycamper4ever873 2 года назад
Great information on a confusing topic! Thank you!
@AnyoneCanSee
@AnyoneCanSee 2 года назад
The two shown at the beginning look to me to be the difference between a man that was in pretty good shape having come from a campaign and the other looks like the same guy only older and more fat and out of shape. It is more jowly and saggy looking. Just my thoughts. Look how Queen Elizabeth has changed on coins and I remember the shock when she suddenly had a double chin. My point is that I'm sure he changed a lot from a guy riding miles on a horse to a guy sitting on his ass and feasting.
@evanp1225
@evanp1225 2 года назад
It reminds me of how some political leaders come out looking like they've aged 20 years during their time in office.
@ThouguohT
@ThouguohT 2 года назад
@@evanp1225 they look the same don't they? Just looks like a different artist.
@evanp1225
@evanp1225 2 года назад
@@ThouguohTI think most of them do, especially in the side by side comparison. The one on the right has its head turned and I think from the same straight on angle they would look near identical
@riks081
@riks081 2 года назад
@Graf von Losinj 🙄
@xXcangjieXx
@xXcangjieXx 2 года назад
@Graf von Losinj Quick! Grab the tinfoil hats!
@alexunfiltered5756
@alexunfiltered5756 2 года назад
I think Julius Ceaser looked like the Told in Stone dude
@sampuatisamuel9785
@sampuatisamuel9785 2 года назад
Very interesting and your narration is excellent
@retardcvnt
@retardcvnt 2 года назад
0:31 Those two ancient statues which you claim to differ dramatically from one another are objectively remarkably similar. Note the size and shape of his nose, the two wrinkles on the bridge of the nose between the eyebrows and the two on the forehead, the same brow ridge, the same hairline and combed forward hairstyle. Note also the sunken in cheeks and protruding cheek bone, the wrinkles on either side of his mouth, the protrusion of the lower lip, the chin, the jugular indent on the neck beneath the chin, the two wrinkles on the neck. In fact if you observe the coin at 2:55 you can see that same jugular indent and wrinkles on the neck along with many other similarities. Even the bronze statue at 6:04 shares an incredible amount of similarities with the ones at 0:31. All of these ancient portraits clearly depict the same man and the similarity in structure and form between them speak to the artistic talent and mastery of trade which the ancients possessed.
@retardcvnt
@retardcvnt 2 года назад
The only significant differences I could point out in the first two ancient statues is the angle at which the picture was taken and the position of the light source.
@AleskyMaxomovishPeshkov
@AleskyMaxomovishPeshkov Год назад
Did they have square jawlines back then? Why does most if not all ancient artwork and sculptures only seem to show round faced men and women?
@RadicalRadixerus
@RadicalRadixerus 4 месяца назад
I find it much more realistic that the right one was the real Ceaser.
@kelvyquayo
@kelvyquayo 2 года назад
There's a "render" Caesar joke in here somewhere..
@Perririri
@Perririri 2 года назад
And an Et tu Brutē one, too!
@baldurruder4642
@baldurruder4642 2 года назад
I’ve listened to your book twice now great stuff
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 2 года назад
So interesting. The topic just a small niche and yet something we can all wonder about now that you brought it up.
@markcarson1844
@markcarson1844 Год назад
Awesome video, thank you!!!!
@markcarson1844
@markcarson1844 Год назад
@@Endgame707 I did that bastard was everywhere!!!!
@iain349
@iain349 2 года назад
Great video. I'm of the view that the most accurate is probably the one that depicts him least ideally - but it's fascinating to see people's interpretations of him. Ciaran Hinds will forever be caesar to me, anyway :D
@carlharmeling512
@carlharmeling512 2 года назад
From the contemporary sculptures I’ve seen of Julius Caesar one could easily pick him out of a crowd of a thousand.
@paulburns1333
@paulburns1333 2 года назад
Be interesting to see what ridiculous rendering the police identikit system would produce.
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 2 года назад
Fascinating stuff.
@LeontiusInvictus
@LeontiusInvictus 2 года назад
I love this channel
@coyoteroadkill
@coyoteroadkill 2 года назад
It seems Albert Uderzo's caricature of Julius Ceasar in the Asterix comics is closer than the later idealized Roman statues.
@sergelibe4946
@sergelibe4946 6 месяцев назад
😊😊😊😊
@ericjane747
@ericjane747 2 года назад
Thank you for yet another enjoyable and informative video.
@13Luk6iul
@13Luk6iul 2 года назад
Super interesting!
@JHamList
@JHamList 2 года назад
this is the kinda content im here for
@m0str33t6
@m0str33t6 2 года назад
You’re such a good speaker and writer. I am a history major and I loved ancient histort. I want to read your book but is there an audible version and if so plz tell me you read it
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 2 года назад
Thank you! There is an audio version of my book, though unfortunately I'm not the narrator (my publisher sold the audio rights). You can find it on Audible and other platforms.
@m0str33t6
@m0str33t6 2 года назад
@@toldinstone I’ll get asap thank you sm sir
@OsirisIxchel
@OsirisIxchel 2 года назад
🤩Described by Suetonius as “unbridled and extravagant in his intrigues,” Caesar was known to his soldiers as “every man's woman and every woman's man.”
@bezahltersystemtroll5055
@bezahltersystemtroll5055 2 года назад
hot :D
@alemalvina7624
@alemalvina7624 2 года назад
It is amazing we kind still know with some accuracy how a 2000 years old looked like. Maybe the most important man in history.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 2 года назад
The Romans really had amazing artists. It's a shame the skill was lost to Europe for about a thousand years. We'll never know what Kings looked like before the Renaissance.
@ZephLodwick
@ZephLodwick 2 года назад
Could you do a video about the decline in Roman art during the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries, which is one of my favourite periods.
@TorToroPorco
@TorToroPorco 2 года назад
Great video, this motivates me to seek out the versions of his busts. I find it interesting that the coins would have what appears to be a realistic and somewhat unflattering portrayal of his likeness given that coins would be widely distributed throughout the empire and in the possession of virtually every Roman.
@michaelinminn
@michaelinminn 2 года назад
0:30 I'll choose these two. Toldinstone, I love your posts, but, how can you not see similarities? Broad face, large forehead, patrician nose, sunken jowls with pronounced cheeks, receding hairline, intense eyes that have a remarkable upper eyelid, firm and strong lips, structured skull at the eyebrows. All the physical features of a great leader. That's Caesar.
@Mr-E.
@Mr-E. Год назад
I think that if he admitted those two sculptures looked extremely similar he wouldn't have had a video to make on this topic. The whole video is based on the foundation that there are inconsistencies which plant the seed of doubt in the audience. It creates a good "mystery" to explore so that he can talk more about it.
@Invictus_Mithra
@Invictus_Mithra 2 года назад
Honestly, to me the two statues you showed looked like they were from the same person. I was actually struggling to spot differences. The one on the left just looked like it was less detailed than the one on the right.
@caivsivlivs
@caivsivlivs 2 года назад
whoa i didn't notice how many subscribers you have gained now!!! wtf ? did it have to do with the release of your book? congrats!
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 2 года назад
Much appreciated! The book was a modest boost, but it's mostly been a slow and steady climb driven by people finding my videos.
@ulfpe
@ulfpe 2 года назад
This is very much a modern perspective with photos, we do the same but the expectations are different
@thorogood473
@thorogood473 2 года назад
The older statues show how worn down he is from trying to conquer the village of indominable Gauls.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 2 года назад
I've also heard speculation that he was seriously ill around the time he took over in Rome. So he probably didn't look very healthy even before he was stabbed 23 times.
@yoshy6546
@yoshy6546 2 года назад
Is your book sold here in Australia? I don't usually read books but yours seems very interesting to me
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 2 года назад
You should be able to find it on both booktopia and Dymocks (and of course Amazon). Please let me know if you encounter any problems.
@yoshy6546
@yoshy6546 2 года назад
@@toldinstone thank you i appreciate it I'm going to order it now
@johndowe7003
@johndowe7003 2 года назад
Hey , got your book on audible. It's great. I hope you write more 👌
@masstv9052
@masstv9052 2 года назад
Those two coins of Octavian show him with the pork chop type sideburns usually associated with one of his famous successors (Caligula? Nero? I forget). I'm so used to the full statue of Octavian in the fancy armour, with a clean shaven and youthful face, that if I only seen the picture off those coins I would not think it was him, but the one successor I spoke about above.
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 2 года назад
Yes, it's strange seeing Octavian with facial hair, isn't it? On the coin, he has a "beard of mourning" for Caesar.
@BigJFindAWay
@BigJFindAWay 2 года назад
The most accurate depiction of Caesar is probably the way he's depicted in Asterix comics.
@cherylsmith4826
@cherylsmith4826 2 года назад
You have destroyed my fantasy that all Roman's important enough to have statues made really had great abs
@malootua2739
@malootua2739 2 года назад
The Green Caesar is the creepiest sculpture I ever saw. I bet it was painted to look life-like before, when it was a new statue
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 2 года назад
The incomparable Prof Mary Beard did a documentary on this some years ago. With a nearly full "survey" of all the heads identified with Caesar. IIRC, including one that was likely Caligula. 🤣
@Mr-E.
@Mr-E. Год назад
0:35 both statues do look similar and consistent. I don't agree that they look so different that they could be different men. If there were 20 head busts on a table with these two mixed in, most people select these two as the same person.
@Rumblenuk
@Rumblenuk 2 года назад
0:28 I think the two statues look quite similar, shape eyes, chin square face etc
@James-rq3rm
@James-rq3rm 2 года назад
There is another ancient version found in Turkey that is damaged and is now in the British Museum . Many scholars nave stated that it is one commissioned by Cleopatra. It is markedly different than the ones depicted here., as it has the “broad “ face.
@Angelfeather100
@Angelfeather100 2 года назад
Even with wrinkles and thinning hair, Caesar constantly remains on the list of people who are asked to name 3 historical figures they would like to meet. His life was the perfect mixture of intellectual cunning, glory, sex, violence and Cleopatra magic, ingredients promissing a blockbuster movie nowadays. He is fascination, he is immortal.
@leakmynutz8945
@leakmynutz8945 2 года назад
Facinating
@01Phenom
@01Phenom 2 года назад
excellent
@nathand7560
@nathand7560 2 года назад
Subscriber numbers still on the rise 👌
@vaevictis5878
@vaevictis5878 2 года назад
The bust at 4:41 the reason the neck doesn't have any physical features is because the head is meant to be replaced. you can see where you can remove the head it's underneath the chin.
@nonye0
@nonye0 2 года назад
maybe u can put the ad right at the start of every video so as no interruption after? thx
@UReasonIt
@UReasonIt 2 года назад
The two busts at @00:48 could very well be taken as the same person. The heads have very similar odd-shapes, lip & mouth shape/size are close, eye spacing, size, and inset are very similar, the nose bridge is similar, the brow ridges match closely, foreheads are similar, chins are close in shape and size and the cheek structure is very much alike. There are differences, like the ears, the one on the right side has different angles from the head, but at a close look, they have the same general shape. The nose tip is also different. Not knowing the time of the creation of the busts, we can assume a few things. Different artists, and source references, and different times of the subject's life. The sources used could have been one in common use at the time of creation and the artist interpretation accounts for the differences. If there were different sources used, they could have come from earlier common sources and the same interpretation issues would apply to them. Is this Julius Ceasar? Since they did not have smartphones, we can't say for sure ;)
@KevTheImpaler
@KevTheImpaler 2 года назад
I saw a sculpture of his head at the British Museum. It was so skilfully made I assumed it must have been a realistic portrait.
@Raccoon_A
@Raccoon_A 2 года назад
We all hail Caesar
@RealForensicTV
@RealForensicTV 2 года назад
Me and my cousin use his cipher alot and its pretty fun
@jvogler_art4708
@jvogler_art4708 2 года назад
I studied art history a lot. Pretty much all the Roman statues are idealized. Whether it be through idealizing the body (stolen from the Greeks like you mentioned) , or through a preference called verisim which was all about idealizing older men perceived to be wise and knowledgeable. When you talked about them wanting to be recognized warts wrinkles and all, that was also a form of idealism. It was about displaying characteristics perceived to be intellectual. Notice how they are still overtly masculine and appear old but strong. Art was their propoganda. If they could portray political figureheads as being better than you in every way (both mentally and physically) that was how they garnered respect for their leaders. It was a tool for both fear and control. Ancient civilizations used this as well.
@bluebadger8811
@bluebadger8811 2 года назад
When looking at Roman facial sculpture you need to know if it was going on a plinth because they would manipulate The shape to make it look right from below the 2 sculptures you showed at 50sec were actually alot closer when you imagine that with the left one being elevated and the right one being set at eye level
@Joke_Bidumb
@Joke_Bidumb 2 года назад
0:35 I'm comparing them...and they both look like exactly the same guy. Literally all the features are the same, the right one just has better detailing and appears more realistic.
@234dB
@234dB 2 года назад
Not as chiseled as the toldinstone content?
@alvarezabonce
@alvarezabonce 2 года назад
The Arles bust IS, the face of Guy Jules. It actually matches Suetonius' description, n even fits his psychological profile.
@halaman9500
@halaman9500 2 года назад
Nice
@alexistrebexis3195
@alexistrebexis3195 2 года назад
Those second set of statue busts side by side he said looked different. But they looked practically the same
@MegaTang1234
@MegaTang1234 2 года назад
Damn, who knew you could learn a lot about Roman politics by looking at a few statues
@bevolkisch4628
@bevolkisch4628 2 года назад
A man can be in his 40's- 50's and have an old looking face but a relatively muscular body that looks much younger than his face because the face is exposed to the Sun all the time but the body usually isn't so it stays younger looking, assuming physical fitness.
@lornamorgan3575
@lornamorgan3575 2 года назад
Not about Caesar, just want to share my excitement that Amazon UK has finally dispatched your book. Woohoo, tomorrow is Naked statues and fat gladiators Thursday.
@DBT_Rusty
@DBT_Rusty 2 года назад
the only Caesar still referred to by and unanimously recognized as "Caesar" even though it was more of a title than a name. Makes me think of how prominent any more modern leader would have to be to carry the name of "president", "king", or "prime minister" as an exclusive identifier while they would not be the last person to hold that position or title. It makes me wonder what made that name stick for 2000+ years.
@otto_jk
@otto_jk 2 года назад
Because Caesar was his family name and only a title for the rest of them... The Caesar as a title started because Octavian aka Caesar Augustus took the name as a title
@TheAlmightyAss
@TheAlmightyAss Год назад
I'm not versed in statues and all that but those two ancient busts of him look pretty similar to me, whilst having subtle differences that a portrait of any one person will have if portrayed by multiple artists. I suppose we all see things differently.
@fearlessjoebanzai
@fearlessjoebanzai 11 месяцев назад
The two heads at 0:50 look pretty much exactly the same to me, just at slightly different angles.
@Kosmonooit
@Kosmonooit 2 года назад
Wasn't there a recent find of a bust in the south of France? or is that the last one you feature?
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 2 года назад
That was the last one, though whether or not it was meant to depict Caesar is up for debate. Mary Beard is one of the more famous of those who questioned whether it is Caesar. The argument in favor of being Caesar is that it dates from the period and was found in France (Gaul), which all together is rather thin.
@annarboriter
@annarboriter 2 года назад
"handsomer, more godlike" more Hellenized
@magnvss
@magnvss 2 года назад
Have you seen how some politicians' drawn caricatures in the present, become so popular and so well known that the exaggerated traits of the drawing becomes instantly recognizable as much as the living character? Well, in ancient Rome such "obvious traits" of copies from copies of a copy is what for most people may have been enough to recognize a given (living or dead) person rather than the accuracy with the real one. Most people would never meet such important characters anyways but the whole point was to establish their hierarchical significance. Another question is representations that would have been made for the elites of different regions, those may have been in need of better (and more expensive) quality copies of someone they may have aspired to meet or recognize. Or even to have bragging rights among their acquaintances or to uphold the bestowed power that possessing such portrait may have given (like you see in current officials around the world who have portraits of their Kings or tyrants etc, as a demonstration of loyalty etc.).
@kekero540
@kekero540 2 года назад
I like to think he looks exactly like grand moff Tarkin
@brandon97652
@brandon97652 2 года назад
Some of the statues depict him young whereas some depict him when he was old?
@cizlerable
@cizlerable 2 года назад
I like your content. I have to ask however that you vary your speech pattern a bit more. It's like you're going through a 5 second loop.
@benjamindover2601
@benjamindover2601 2 года назад
They say you die twice, firsty when your body fails and secondly when the last person that remembers your name dies. Ceasar is immortal.
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