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What Do You Need For Reloading And How Much Will It Cost In 2022? 

Tom River - Simple Living
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Is it time to finally start reloading your ammo in 2022? With all of the shortages and price increases I decided to see if the items needed could be found, how much it will cost, and how much does it cost per cartridge?
RCBS Rockchucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit - amzn.to/3ENhYy4
Lee Universal Case Holder - amzn.to/31KPE14
Lyman Trickler - amzn.to/3DHAEhi
Lyman Flash Hole Uniformer - amzn.to/3pJNJSe
Hornady One Shot Lube - amzn.to/3lTTifK
Mitutoyo Digital Caliper - amzn.to/3sefkht
Frankfort Arsenal Bullet Puller - amzn.to/3rXs2Rm
RCBS Trim Pro Case Trimmer - amzn.to/3GyJ3W4
The Lee Precision Breech Lock Challenger is sold out. I will include the link in case more items come in and all items in the kit can be purchased individually. - amzn.to/3lSMGhN
Lee Universal Case Holder - amzn.to/31KPE14
Lyman Trickler - amzn.to/3DHAEhi
Lyman Flash Hole Uniformer - amzn.to/3pJNJSe
Hornady One Shot Lube - amzn.to/3lTTifK
Mitutoyo Digital Caliper - amzn.to/3sefkht
Frankfort Arsenal Bullet Puller - amzn.to/3rXs2Rm
RCBS Universal Case Block - amzn.to/3oPneeI
Lyman Reloading Manual - amzn.to/3yjk7Pu

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@zayacz123
@zayacz123 2 года назад
During shortages of reloading components, which have happened many times in my +40 years of reloading, I stock up on items that are reasonably priced, but I won’t participate in price gouging. That hurts us all. Places like Midwayusa won’t cheat you, but I also understand they can’t operate at a loss. Thanks for another great video!
@jimmysp4des229
@jimmysp4des229 Год назад
Midway is great, so is midsouthshooterssupply
@birddog7492
@birddog7492 Год назад
We don't have many people that reload here. If SHTF I need to be sure I can get bullets for my firearms. Thats the number one reason I started reloading. # two I like to shoot. #3 reloading is enjoyable. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I hope it helps a lot of people.
@hardball107
@hardball107 2 года назад
Great video Tom and spot on as usual. I started reloading at 14 and I'm 66 now and like you I enjoy the time, accuracy and cost savings involved with my 2k-3k round a year habit. My nephew wanted to start reloading so I sat him down and set him up. He wanted to reload 9mm and 223, a used Lyman Spartan press with a nice tight ram filled the bill, $15. A RCBS powder measure and stand at a gun show got the nod, $20. Dies for both calibers, gun show also, $20 and $25 respectively. General small parts for case prep, homemade case lube (ISO-HEET + liquid lanolin), shell holders, ect. $40. Only new item was a Frankford Arsenal Universal Case Trimmer. Yes, it was $100 but it's a one time expense and IMHO is the best bang for the buck out there to handle the most tedious job in reloading requiring precision. I did him a solid and I cast so I gave him 500 9mm 124 gr. powder coated bullets and a couple bags of Winchester 55 gr. 5.56 FMJ bullets, sold him 1000 Small Rifle Primers which work fine in both calibers for $50. I had bags of range brass, free and I showed him how to clean it in buckets with soap, water, vinegar and citric acid. He picked up a pound of HP38 and CFE 223 for $40 per pound and he's happily turning out rounds every week for just over $300 and is already planning a few upgrades with the cost savings on ammo. $.08/round for 9mm and $.35/round or so for .223.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
Way to go Ken. Now that's starting him off right. Not only for reloading but saving money in general. My big problem these days is time and I've developed a really bad habit of just buying whatever rather than looking for a much cheaper and simpler solution and I want to thank you for reminding me of that. And I especially like the homemade lube and cleaning your brass in a bucket with your own solution. I'm going to have to try both of those at some point, if I ever get the time.
@nohandle257
@nohandle257 2 года назад
Smart man. We have a big gun store in San Antonio that has a whole room ( like 14 x 20 ) stacked with used reloading equipment and components. They get most of it from elderly widows. Cheap cheap cheap
@RogerCharlamange
@RogerCharlamange 2 года назад
@@nohandle257 Uhhh, you wanna tell me which one? Is it Nagels? Sounds like it'd be Nagels.
@nohandle257
@nohandle257 2 года назад
@@RogerCharlamange Yup.
@diggernash1
@diggernash1 2 года назад
Lee dies come with the appropriate shell holder. They are a great value for normal applications.
@timhalloran7910
@timhalloran7910 2 года назад
Now is always a good time to reload. Reloading is always more cost effective.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
I wouldn't say it's more cost effective for someone that doesn't shoot very much. But these days it seems we're less and less able to depend on ammo manufactures so with the times we're in reloading is starting to prove a lot more valuable than just a cost savings.
@nohandle257
@nohandle257 2 года назад
Over time, yes. Cost savings isn’t as important as the security of knowing you will never be short of ammo. Let alone WITHOUT ammo.
@myparceltape1169
@myparceltape1169 2 года назад
As soon as I saw this I thought "Equations". The cost of the necessary hardware to be set against the difference between shop bought cartridges vs home made multiplied by the shots fired. It is just how things catch you.
@jj-eg5up
@jj-eg5up Год назад
No
@TwoGoatsRacing
@TwoGoatsRacing Год назад
That’s a ridiculously ignorant statement.
@jasonbroom7147
@jasonbroom7147 2 года назад
The best time to plant an oak tree was 75 years ago. The next best time is today. If you like to shoot, you should reload your own ammunition, for a variety of reasons. There's never a bad time to get into reloading, although there are times when your ROI will happen faster. Two things you didn't mention, or perhaps I missed it, is that the brass you bought can likely be reloaded 7 or 8 times, minimum, before needing to be replaced. For each subsequent reloading, your cost does not include the brass. Also, if you reload for something far more uncommon than 7-08, the time it takes to recoup the cost of your reloading equipment is reduced dramatically! For example, I reload 44/40 and 7-30 Waters. If you can find factory ammo for those at all, the prices are incredibly high. However, by stocking up on components ahead of time, I can reload both of those for basically the same net cost of any common cartridge I fire. The last thing I'll mention, and something I really hoped you would touch on, is that hand loaders can reduce their charge weights, cast their own bullets, and take other steps to increase the number of rounds they can fire, even during times such as these. By loading your own, so many variables are under your control, even when components are not as readily available as they are during normal conditions.
@twintwo1429
@twintwo1429 Год назад
The number of reloads you get from a case is also dependent upon the pressure of the loads and whether or not you annealed the case necks. Sometimes you will have to discard some cases after the first shot and each loading there after.
@USAACbrat
@USAACbrat 11 месяцев назад
I'm old and i did a test of lubes for ease of operation 5 different lubes and kiwi neutral; by far kiwi makes the easiest lube for press operation. works on BP bullets as well.
@jameslester3861
@jameslester3861 Год назад
Availability of and high costs of critical components due to political interference is the main problem. I thought $20 for 1000 primers was expensive back in the nineties, I wish I had a crystal ball back then.
@glamb56
@glamb56 2 года назад
Just getting into long range precision shooting and reloading with my new AXSR in .338 Lapua (or chambered in $7 bills 😂) Incredibly helpful video for a beginner reloader! Thank you for the time and level of detail that went into these lists and this video.
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 2 года назад
When reloading you will learn which cartridges are more efficient than the others.
@USAACbrat
@USAACbrat 11 месяцев назад
I have always used Lee Presses; Collet single stage for trimming and decapping, 4 position progressive without the advance rod for Sizing (without expander), neck expansion, Micro seater and micro crimp die. This rig is ok to shoot better than i can buy. I use Lee bench primer. Cleaning cases is better to deprime first, lot less dirt to remove.
@conceptchannel1112
@conceptchannel1112 2 года назад
Please, Please,,, Save yourself a decade,,,, Please consider the Forster Co Ax,,, You will, understand, why one day...........
@charlesmccoy5857
@charlesmccoy5857 Год назад
Well it's now 2023 and still no "Rainbows and Unicorns" on the horizon. Great video by the way, LOL
@slotcarfan
@slotcarfan 11 месяцев назад
5 years ago I started my own reloading with a Lee Classic Turret kit. That kit, plus one set of dies, and a few extras like a funnel, caliper, etc, currently run a total of about $350.00 for all new equipment (not including supplies like powder, etc.). That will get someone loading for one caliber. With that same equipment, I've loaded 10's of thousands of rounds with no issues in 9mm, 38/357, 45acp and 223. Supplies have just about doubled in price since I started, but having suppkies on hand, I had sufficient ammo for weekly range visits throughout the Covid shortages.
@gizmocarr3093
@gizmocarr3093 2 года назад
How I started making my own reloaded cartridges in 1966 and the cost. Marlin model 336 rifle $89.00. Lee Loader kit $9.95, (2) boxes of Winchester 150gr factory ammo $3.99ea total $8 dollars. One box of Winchester primers $.60cents, 100 Hornady 150 gr bullets $3.99 and a pound IMR 30-31 powder $3.99. The whole shebang cost me under $120 dollars. When you figure it out; making my first 100 reloads cost $.26 cents a shot and the next 100 rounds $.14 cents a shot there about. The idea back then was you practiced with reloads and hunted with factory loads. Both Lyman and Lee made these handy reloading tools and Lee still does I believe. If you don’t have much money you can still make your own ammunition for less than $1,000 dollars. I know Benchrest shooters that use this style of hand loading tools during shooting matches. They would adjust the powder load for the shooting conditions. They would use the same cases for shooting their groups during the match. That was a long while back; but that is how they did it. They also are still used by people living in wilderness areas far from your local shooters supply store too. That is real simple living the cheap route. 🎁🎄🎅🙂
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
I really struggled with what items to list. I know a person could make some perfectly good cartridges with the handheld tool, just a measuring scope, and some basic components. And it doesn't take everything I listed. But I also figured that the person that would benefit from a really simple setup like that isn't going to shoot many cartridges and a person that isn't going to shoot many cartridges is probably better off just buying up a few boxes? It was a tough call and I eventually decided to just list the stuff that I found the most useful for me.
@gizmocarr3093
@gizmocarr3093 2 года назад
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving I think your presentation was a difficult subject to cover in a short video and you did a great job of explaining the tools and systems for reloading. Reloading is as complicated as you want to make it. A simple Lee Loader kit is a great leaning tool. If you never tried one you should. Just to see how simple the set works. The cost of shooting is just out of reach for some people. Don’t underestimate the reloads they produce using one. They will make some accurate ammo with a little practice. If you have limited space and money everything comes in the set you need. You can start out with simple tools and progress to more complicated systems. It is pretty fun to have a reloading system that fits in a lunch box. Shooting and hunting has been made to complicate with ideas of what it once was.
@jhscheppele2448
@jhscheppele2448 3 месяца назад
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving.
@jhscheppele2448
@jhscheppele2448 3 месяца назад
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving.
@JM-sj4wj
@JM-sj4wj Год назад
I have the Lee kit. I didn’t pay nearly that much for my all those items. Lee does come with a book and I caught some of the items on sale and bought a lot on online auctions You can do it a lot cheaper if you aren’t in a hurry. I bought a wet tumbler at Harbor Freight and you don’t have to worry about your family breathing in lead dust
@doranmaxwell1755
@doranmaxwell1755 2 года назад
I also have been handloading for 40 years. I have maybe wasted thousands of dollars on stuff that sounded good but did almost nothing. In my opinion.. Maybe $500 will get you everything you need for one caliber but each additional caliber will only be? $40 or so. If you want to cast bullets? whole other thing. I do it.. you want to shoot .357 mag or 44 mag or 45 acp for $4 a box of 50 we can talk about that.
@bigwyomingadventures5908
@bigwyomingadventures5908 2 года назад
It's never a bad time to get into reloading!
@colemiller4899
@colemiller4899 2 года назад
Ultrasonic cleaners are the way to go limeshine and dawn platinum
@williamreinhardt2774
@williamreinhardt2774 2 года назад
This was a great video, lots of useful information, thank you for that! I kept checking gunbroker enough and eventually found a Lee Pro 1000 and and RCBS Partner with the dies I needed for 75 and 45 dollars respectively, the deals are out there if you look long enough. Both of them even work!
@gdaytrees4728
@gdaytrees4728 2 года назад
Always a pleasure to watch and listen to your videos. Simple living is the best, and you present it better than all other channels that i watch...and there are lots. Keep up the excellence, Tom. Thank you and God bless you and yours
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
Thanks, I really appreciate that.
@garyweber8370
@garyweber8370 Год назад
Its not just about cost or availability, but making custom ammo. 30-30 with 110 grains for coyotes and practice, 380 with 115grains, 9mm with 100 grains going 1400fps, and so on.
@mikewa9097
@mikewa9097 2 года назад
Great video Tom. Your concise and descriptive discussion about getting started in Reloading is a great view for new comers to reloading, and to someone like myself who has been reloading since the 90's as it is interesting to see a refresh on what is currently available out there. Great job.
@Espi68One
@Espi68One Год назад
I have been handloading for over 28 years, (before I eldest son was born), but mainly pistol, 9mm, 38 Special and .357 Magnum, so I have most of my reloading equipment down patt, I have even expanded my reloading press to get a press for every caliber, auto indexing and doing case prep on single stage press. I remember loading 9mm for just about $4 to $6 a box of 50. BUT, with the cost of powder, $35-$45 a pound, cost of primers, $90-$140 for a brick, (1K) and the shortage. I just restocked on components for .223, (I ran out of components for pistol loading last year), but loaded about 4K rounds of 9mm/38/357/40 mixed. (Those Dillon Presses are just AWESOME, loaded 2K 9mm rounds in 2 days.) I recently paid, $280 for 8lbs of Win 748, so that is $35 a pound, bullets were on sale, so I got 20 boxes at $12 each box, primers, OMG, I got a brick at $90, and then found 700 at $10 a sleeve, I did find some primed brass with bullet combos for .223, but that was $95 each, so that comes out to .35 a round, without cost of powder. I was able to find 500 primed cases in 9mm, I have bullets, but that was still .19 a primed shell. I have 2K primers to load .308, but only 7 lbs of IMI 3031, and no bullets. So........ I think that this will be my last run on loading my own ammunition. I can get 9mm for $17, I know it's .17 cent at round, but cheaper then .19 cents, .223 or 5.56 can be purchased at .35 in bulk, which is just cheaper then loading. I think that overall price of primers / powder has made handloading cost more then factory, bullets have stay pretty much at the same price. Just my opinion.
@Shadow-1949
@Shadow-1949 3 месяца назад
Thank you it’s helped me
@frankwrogg2515
@frankwrogg2515 2 года назад
I would not recommend getting the kit, the only thing I use out of mine is the press itself. Everything else I purchased quality stuff to do the trimming, powder measure and scale.
@BitsOfEternity
@BitsOfEternity 4 месяца назад
I live in Canada, and ammo is more expensive here to begin with, but on top of that, my best rifle is a 270WSM, which drives the price up - and availability is terrible. Cabela's had two kinds of cartridges for 270WSM, that's it. They have plenty of 130 grain Winchester Deer Season XP for $100 a box, and they have a few boxes of Nosler's Trophy Grade 140 grain AB for $150 per box...... I already had 7 or 8 boxes of brass from Federal premium ammo that I bought and fired back in 08, and I just picked up a couple of boxes of the Deer Season to zero my rifle, because I knew it was way off, since I had removed and re-mounted the scope. I want to try the Nosler 150 grain AB & ABLR, and maybe even their 165 grain ABLR that's intended for the 6.8 western, but I can't do that unless I reload - and I want to try a box of Trophy grade, just to see... And I want to try some 145 grain Hornady ELD-X - but I can't find any catridges in Canada... The war in Ukraine is part of it, especially with powder right now - but anyway, Cabela's has a nice kit from Lyman for $1000. It has a tumbler, digital scale, 8 turret press, bullet puller, sizing tool, and more - and it is made in the USA, so I have faith in the quality. Considering what I just explained that I have to pay for cartridges, and the fact that I already have about 200 brass, and this is for hunting, and for shooting for fun, buying that kit, and the powder and bullets and primers will be cheaper than it would be just to buy 200 cartridges alone, and I can keep reusing the brass! It makes me want to buy something to anneal - partly because 270WSM ammo is more expensive, but anyway) - I love the videos, keep em comin! PS I also have a Lee Enfield 303 British (I may have mentioned that in the comments on another of your videos, but I can't remember...)
@billypurifoy640
@billypurifoy640 2 года назад
Tom this is a very useful video for getting started reloading. But you don’t say anything about getting started reloading for one thing an that’s if you need ammo that’s not around any more ! I have a hand me down 32-20 S & W revolver and can’t get the ammo ! So that’s why I need to get to reloading.
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 2 года назад
Same problem I've had over the years with my 303 Savage. I did find some new brass though.
@chuckminick9511
@chuckminick9511 2 года назад
Thank you Tom for all the great information , I was recently given a rcbs rock crusher from my pastor . I'm saving brass and starting my list of what I'll need for 243 I'm don't waste ammo target shooting but would like to make hunting loads .
@DannyWalker1949
@DannyWalker1949 Год назад
I started in 1962 WAS that a Good Year to start Reloading? ha ha ha😊😅😃😆🤣 You know I got everything back then within a year or two. My Brass Tumler is Till working as it should. I Use Walnut and Pecan Hulls for my Brass. The only thing I have changed on it is the 0ld Rubber Jug, it started Cracking (Ol' Age, I Guess) I changed over to a 1 Gallon Pickle Jug (Glass Jug) for my Tumbling of Brass. I've got Several Rock Crusher's on my bench (like different stations). Bout all I load now is .40 Cal., 5.56, 6.5 Creedmoor, I enjoyed your video Sir. And, You told it like it IS. Thanks Alot I've enjoyed many a year at my 0l' Bench ignoring my 0l' Battle Axe🤣
@jonathanvancura2080
@jonathanvancura2080 Год назад
Lee sells full turret kits for significantly cheaper if you primarily want one caliber. LEE PRECISION 38 357 PRO 4000 Press Kit Doesn't come with the grain measurers and such.
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 2 года назад
The price you come up with seems high until one stops to consider lots of people spend more than that on every scope they put on a rifle.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
And something I should have mentioned in the video is that it's a one time purchase for most of the equipment. Most of it will last a life time so buy it once and done. That's pretty considering what inflation is doing the price of everything.
@trey934
@trey934 7 месяцев назад
I watched my dad and his buddy reload when I was young boy. Never got into it. Just turned 34 on the 8th and I am doing research and looking at kits online. I think I am going to go the budget route and get the lee turret press that way I can have my plates set up with different calibers I use so I don't have to constantly be setting up dies in different calibers just change turrets. Anyway. I looked at the Rcbs kit with everything but case trimmer and tumbler. Then I found the lyman that has the electronic powder dumper. Tumbler. Case trimmer. Etc etc. Found it for 6 something. Then I found the lee turret press. Though it is cheaper I have seen good reviews. I think that's the one for me. Time I buy dies for 6.5, 243 wssm, 2506, 7 rem mag, 308, 30-06, 270, and get primers, bullets powder etc etc I'm going to be in for a grand at very least. If I went with the other I will be way over a grand. I might not like it 2 months after I start. What do you guys that have experience with the lee think about it? Lee has been around a long time to my understanding. I have plenty of brass for all the calibers I mentioned. After I get into it I can get a different press if I feel I need it. I don't know if my line of thinking is correct or not.
@peterparsons7141
@peterparsons7141 Год назад
I’ve attached a link for a reloading video of 7.62x39. Looks like a commercial operation, however I think the quality control is somewhat lacking. They seem to also use many steps, but what I didn’t understand was the trimming the case head. Anyway, here’s the video... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4daNWLi5k2E.html
@adamsegarra5683
@adamsegarra5683 Год назад
I got $1.86/shot from your costs. That's roughly a 20cent saving from current prices. Penny saved, penny earned.
@markhoyt8643
@markhoyt8643 2 года назад
You know Tom you’re right about hitting the like button and letting you tube know you like hunting videos I been hearing you say that for awhile and I get it .any time we watch any hunting related videos hit the like button please. They will get the message. About reloading I reload for close to 50 different cal. I love working up loads getting the most out of a gun and me .thank you for another good video
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
Thank you Mark.And I have to say that's a lot of calibers! It's funny but when you reload you just seem to develop an appreciation for all cartridge and what each has to offer, and they all have something to offer or they would have never been created in the first place. I guess reloading for them just lets us really get to know a cartridge?
@jimbasler303
@jimbasler303 4 месяца назад
I bought the Lyman AA8 Turret Press Kit. It was on sale for $620. It doesn't have everything but it has most of it.
@danielbeiersr3642
@danielbeiersr3642 5 месяцев назад
Do you have any experience with Lyman Turbo Sonic Ultrasonic Cleaners, you mentioned not wanting to wait for your clean brass to dry so this is another liquid process??? The advantage to this process is supposed to clean primer pockets and more hidden areas of shell casings!
@jaybailleaux630
@jaybailleaux630 2 года назад
Loading ammo is not for everyone but I love it. Never shot a deer with a factory load. I get gives extra satisfaction along with smithing my firearms. Started reloading since age 11. That was 53 years ago. I reload for family and friends. That also gives me a great deal of satisfaction to know I had a part in their success. I describe to others that reloading is a lot like cooking. Got thousands of reloading recipes. I load for accuracy and leathality. I reload more than I hunt and shoot. I have much knowledge from experience in firearms and reloading ammo. Don't want to bragg but that and 50cents won't buy me a cup of coffee 😊
@RockinRack
@RockinRack 11 месяцев назад
I only have 700y to shoot. And hunt out to 400y, wanted to get into loading but with these new creedmoor and prc rounds i dont know that i could do any better than cheap factory rounds. I know i could get better sd and es but those haven't been a issue at 400y. Now back when 308 and 300wm were my go to rounds it would have been great to not need 10 different boxes to find one that shoots worth a damn. But now days it seems a box of hornady with creedmoor or prc on the box is .5moa for 30-40 bucks a box vs loading and saving 50cents a round
@notsogreat123
@notsogreat123 Год назад
Yeah you need primers ! They are pretty much unobtainium right now !! Unless you stocked up expecting democrats to win !!
@robertbraden461
@robertbraden461 Год назад
Supply shortages still happening for reloading supplies also affect construction, electronics and car deliveries. Projects that should start in 3 months and take 1 year are delayed 18 months or longer for materials, then take 2 years to build. This is the new normal.
@lawrencemay8671
@lawrencemay8671 Год назад
Reloading is like finally paying of your car loan. When you get all your supplies, or your car, the initial cost is pretty penny. But when you finally get the supplies, or paying of your car, it becomes cheaper. As paying off of your car, just gas, oil and preventive maintenance.
@terrycalvert7812
@terrycalvert7812 Год назад
Single !!!STAGE!!! Where have you ever seen and press advertised as a single station?? You haven’t because there called a single stage press!! It’s a waist to buy the kits also. That shit is just enough to get by and just barely. Take it from someone who has reloaded and learned from dealing with the junk kit stuff. Save your money or buy it one piece at a time and buy the Frankfort press get an rcbs charge master and screw to balance beams. And for damn sure don’t buy that dangerous hammer bullet puller get the collet puller. Get the LE Wilson trimmer that’s the only trimmer to buy. You will regret buying this cheap junk he’s advising you to get if your serious about getting into reloading. You will be so much farther ahead to take your time and buy it a bit at a time and buy the best you can get. It will make the whole process easier faster and you will end up with much better ammo in the end. If your just looking for ammo that will poke holes in paper follow toms advise. Also I didn’t hear anything said about annealing your brass in this video annealing your brass is a must if you plan on loading you brass more than 3 times. You don’t anneal you will have cracked necks and be throwing brass in the trash on the second third reload. Throwing brass away after three loads that could be loaded 10 to 15 times if properly annealed and processed is a huge damn wait of money. After watching this video I now understand why when Tom heads to the range his velocity’s are not consistent and he has a lot more bad groups than he does good ones. There are two types of people who reload. The first is a reloader and that’s someone who just assembles components to make rounds that will push a bullet down a barrel but there is no consistency and often load rounds that are right on a scatter node because they don’t know any better this is the type of person Tom is. The second is someone that is a handloader a handloader precisely preps his brass trims every time anneals every time uses the best components he can get and build a load that is tailored to his rifle from the perfect primer powder and bullet for that particular rifle he’s loading for. When a hand loader goes to the range you will see that out of 10 loads 8 are around an inch and 3 are around half inch and the load is perfected even further from there. Doing everything I have stated here factory guns almost always shoot under half inch or dang close to it and do it in sub zero temps to 90 temps plus. Don’t buy this junk and try to make it work you will get frustrated and spend more money buying what you should if bought to start with from the beginning!!
@repairfreak
@repairfreak 2 года назад
Thanks Mr. River for another interesting and helpful video. I’m still trying to gather supplies, primers and powder now esp. I see the white box CCI no 40 something on the box, and these are large rifle primers. I see these available here and there hit and miss. I believe these primers are primarily for 7.62x39. Someone said the cups are a bit harder than some. I just don’t know if these will work well for .243 Win and .270 Win. I certainly can’t afford to throw good money out the door obviously. Do you have 1st hand knowledge of these White Box CCI large rifle primers and if they will work fine? Also I’ve really had my hopes set on some H4350 powder, but it seems to be out of stock everywhere. I read somewhere that it is made in Australia. Being that the country I believe is still in Covid lockdown, I therefore might have to settle for another powder manufacture, recommendation welcome. I do certainly hope to be able to finally get what I need soon. I’m very eager to learn how to produce safe, quality hand loads. In the meantime I just keep reading, watching videos and learning as much as possible. Having all this time I guess is not all bad, because it does give me the time to learn as much as possible from experienced hand loaders such as yourself Tom 😀👍. God bless you and your family, have a wonderful upcoming Christmas & a Happy New Year my friend.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
Mike I picked up a box of the white box CCI and I think they are #39? I haven't tried them yet and they are made specifically for semi autos so not just 7.62x39. But the box I mentioned that I found in the video were standard CCI Large Rifle primers. So some are starting to show up. Just be patient and keep looking. I go to Midway and in the filters for whatever I'm looking for I just select "available". Today they had a good selection of small rifle primers. As for powder, it seems like powder is getting harder to find and not easier. I keep checking but I haven't seen much. And you are right about Hodgen powder being from Austrailia, or at least some of it is. I'm not sure about H4350. IMR powder is a good option including IMR4350. It's made in Canada so a little closer to home. And if you run across IMR 4451, I think it's a great powder and almost identical to IMR4350. But be patient and you find the stuff you need eventually. Best of luck, and Merry Christmas!
@repairfreak
@repairfreak 2 года назад
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving Thanks my friend, God bless.
@kentowens2179
@kentowens2179 2 года назад
Nice video! I began loading using a Lee handloader back in the 70's, for a hunting rifle. They work, especially if you have good scales and weigh your charges. Later on I got a 550-B Dillon to load .45 acp and 9mm, and used it for rifle cartridges as well, but I do still weigh my powder charges for rifle, and just use the Dillon to size cases and seat bullets, and I hand prime rifle cases. Now, components have become obsolete, especially primers. Even black powder and it's substitutes have became unavailable.
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 2 года назад
I learned how to make my own black powder. I fortunately had the foresight to stock up on components when obama was elected president in order to continue to have ammunition for my cartridge rifles. I am considering getting a flintlock rifle or a percussion cap making kit to go along with homemade powder.
@Yettiattack
@Yettiattack Год назад
None of you should ever reload its dangerous an expensive! Keep buying manufactured ammo 😁😉
@misterlewgee8874
@misterlewgee8874 Год назад
For cleaning... consider sonic cleaner...citric acid...hot water..no media....
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving Год назад
Mister Lewgee, that is something I'll have to check into. I just really haven't seen an advantage to the steel pins but no media with a sonic would be nice.
@misterlewgee8874
@misterlewgee8874 Год назад
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving I'm a tight arse, poor too....I've just been using citric acid, sometimes some tartaric acid too and dish detergent. I've found that hot water seems to help alot I'm looking into adding some bore tech carbon remover. Or even buying some boretech sonic cleaner stuff. I drilled out plastic chopping board to make stands...so .no air bubbles and trimmings can easily exit the case. Sonic vibration doesn't travel through plastic ..but, it does metal and glass. If you get one...or find a cheap one...do get a big one if you can . Always fill with water or you'll break it I like to avoid media...sounds like problems... Thanks Tom. I'm finding the way you hold your tongue when shooting seems to make a big difference... Consistent position et all .. Keep well.
@misterlewgee8874
@misterlewgee8874 Год назад
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving the carbon in the neck acts as lube...but..it build up every firing and changes...thus inconsistent neck tension...see annealing made perfect video... So...in pursuit on simple and effective (I Lee neck collet die size, no lube) I dip case neck in Redding dry media lube etc...small ceramic balls and graphite I think...then wipe off excess exterior of shoulder.. this is to promote a consistent lubricated neck tension...sonic cleaning makes the brass very clean...dry..and not slippery etc. Recently found water temp at 75drgree Celcius gets helps the citric acid get the last bit of stubborn carbon out of the neck .. Look for citric acid at home brew shop... probably best n cheapest..
@robertchagnon1756
@robertchagnon1756 Год назад
I live in Canada and the situation is so difficult for hunter and this Woke society Everithing is double and triple the price here Thank you for the info , it will help me to make a decision about reloading
@Troubledboy88
@Troubledboy88 Год назад
I just ordered a Lee kit, after getting some advice from a couple older guys that have been reloading for years, they all said they had used them all but that Lee had the best tolerances as far as dies and powder measures. They said the rcbs was probably the stoutest built but had never had issues with the others
@blairbreland1443
@blairbreland1443 Год назад
I found the Lyman manual the worst due to the lack of information on loads. They test a minimum of powders. I found Lee manual has way more powders.
@rickfletcher8422
@rickfletcher8422 2 года назад
You forgot to mention the Lee loader!! The most basic budget way to make a cartridge from components! I’ve actually never used one but I love the idea behind it and if I were to pick up a carbine in say 357 or 44 I’d definitely add a Lee loader to my kit!! Fantastic video again Tom!!
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 2 года назад
Logcabinlooms uses a Lee classic loader and loads quite fast.
@rkow8508
@rkow8508 2 года назад
I love the Lee Loaders you won't set any production records but you can load anywhere. Wish more people knew about them. A 1000 yard world record was set with the Lee Loader.
@twintwo1429
@twintwo1429 Год назад
Excellent video for entry level reloading. Cost of living always rises, so buying all the basics now will definitely make reloading cost effective, later down the road. I stocked up on everything, years ago. Right now, a box of 35 whelen is $80 . I can reload it for $12 a box or less. Same for 5 other calibers and 3 gauges of shotgun shells. With all the rush to buy up supplies and equipment, as things settle down and wages catch up with inflation, I predict that there will be many good deals on used equipment. Some of us know that way more people get in and back out of reloading, than people that stay with it.
@Jim-oo7dk
@Jim-oo7dk Год назад
I feel bad for the young guy who wasn't able to get his stuff 30 years ago, every aspect of the firearm industry is just gouging to beat the band.
@aom9082
@aom9082 Год назад
Been reloading for a while now. But, sure is hard finding primers though.....
@markking5711
@markking5711 11 месяцев назад
Make Your own Case Lube Iso- heat 98.5% and lanolin !!
@capricorn2816
@capricorn2816 Год назад
The question should be why haven’t you already been reloading??
@benjaminreppond3114
@benjaminreppond3114 Год назад
I’m about 30 seconds into this video and I’m going to say right now. You don’t need half the stuff on that table
@Roboticdoughbull3k
@Roboticdoughbull3k Год назад
With all due respect, I wouldn't call what they pulled on us a pan. Demic, it was akin more to a terrorist operation.
@benjaminreppond3114
@benjaminreppond3114 Год назад
Not really worth your time making cheap ammo cheaper. The real value is making really nice match grade ammo
@WillyK51
@WillyK51 Год назад
Not a fan of Progresive but neither a Sigle die Single stage, Cheap and fastster than a Single die the 4 die turret Lee Press my fav.
@mencken8
@mencken8 2 года назад
The FIRST thing that should be said in a video like this, to an audience of presumed neophytes, is to buy a reputable reloading manual. Then read it. Then read it AGAIN. Then think about the necessary equipment and a reloading location and setup. This is NOT DOING JIGSAW PUZZLES!
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 Год назад
It’s only reloading. Chill
@LuisRodriguez-sc1oq
@LuisRodriguez-sc1oq 2 года назад
🇺🇸🇵🇪🇵🇷😎 thanks for giving us breakdown on the many brands out there 🤔
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
You're very welcome Luis.
@bobh3409
@bobh3409 2 года назад
your wall socket is up side down
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
That's what happens when a cabinet maker fools with electrical! LOL
@nohandle257
@nohandle257 2 года назад
Thanks for another well done and informative video. I, like you, am mostly thinking of keeping myself in ammunition, especially good ammunition, for the future. We just don’t know how things will be and personally I’m not expecting rainbows and unicorns any time soon. Quite the opposite most likely. I’m not throwing money away but I’m also not crying in my beer over the painful prices I’m forced to pay for components right now. I’ve managed to get everything I needed even though fully revamping my hand loading setup in the last few months …. AND buying new rifles and calibers to replace my 30s. All of which I sold. No more heavy recoil for me. Never liked it and I’m shooting better now than I ever have. At 71 years old I am having more fun with shooting than I ever have. I’m now a fully ordained convert of the church of smaller but faster caliber church.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
I have been heading in the same direction as far as smaller but faster calibers. No point in taking a beating if we don't have to!
@nohandle257
@nohandle257 2 года назад
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving I should add ….I’m also excited by what I’m finding out about monometal bullets. I’m getting good accuracy AND superior wounding. So far. I’m loading just to moderate velocity as I never shoot beyond 200 yds and using 120 grain bullets which keeps recoil down even more. Now my 7mm 08 is my ‘big gun’ and with these light bullets even it is painless. We do have wild elk running around here in my corner of SW Texas and I have some 140 grn partitions loaded up for the highly unlikely occasion I would shoot one. They’re considered ‘exotics’ here and unprotected. I really wish I had gone to 243 and or 6.5 Creedmoor years ago. I don’t like to think about all the money I wasted on 300 WSM, 45/70 or even 270 either. I still have a bit of a flinch those guns caused me to develop. Flinching is weird. It’ll pop up when you least expect it. %^))
@HikeHuntHaul
@HikeHuntHaul 2 года назад
Tom, I just want to say the alga-rhythm finally introduced me to you channel 😃 I love your channel! Excellent instruction and information. Like many people I’m into reloading now. Finally, was able to get some powder yesterday for rifle cartridge reloading but no primers yet. I will never be depleted again. Lessons learned. 😉 I love reloading and it’s benefits. Anyways, thank you for sharing your channel. Keep the videos coming and my favorite so far is the British Enfield .303; excellent craftsmanship. Thanks again! 👍🏻😃
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
I'm glad you like the videos and I appreciate you letting me know that. It's comments like yours that make this worth doing.
@leeadams5941
@leeadams5941 2 года назад
I really liked the video, I was lucky when I started as I had a friend who was an old hand and he walked me thru it. That was a good thing as it can be confusing there is so much to take into consideration...there are many ways to go and some of them are very expensive...he was a competition pistol shooter and had enough Dillon stuff, he could make any amount of .45 he needed and most of it was automatic. The choices you demonstrated were great for the first-timer and for me I always liked the RCBS stuff...I think, for me, it would be difficult to get the stuff I had in today's market....but hopefully, better times are coming and they will start with the midterm elections. God Bless, and thanks.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
I'm praying you're right about the midterms!!!
@kw3640
@kw3640 6 месяцев назад
I need a powder measure and a digital measure? Or either or? Thank u!!
@BULLETENVY
@BULLETENVY Год назад
I feel like I just made a new grandpa teaching me life lessons.
@gregrehmer9069
@gregrehmer9069 8 месяцев назад
Figure out how much fish cost per pound if your a fisherman?
@sherlock1895
@sherlock1895 Год назад
All good. Now where are reasonable priced primers! Cheers!
@paullavallee1631
@paullavallee1631 9 месяцев назад
The Lee system works great with a drill, way better than the hand crank trimmers
@mainenorthwoodshunter3265
@mainenorthwoodshunter3265 Год назад
Thank you for all the information. Having the prices was very helpful. When you included bullets powder and dies was very helpful as well. I have not seen anybody else include that in the pricing, which I was always wondering. Thank You! Now I guess it really depends on like you say how much you plan on shooting. Around here in Maine ammunition that I shoot is anywhere from $40-$60 a box of 20 rounds. But if you include your estimated say $1 per round and then add all you had to spend to start relading say $800. It will surely take quite a while to catch up to the price I pay for my rounds for how much I shoot per year. I may shoot a box or two in my deer rifle before deer season just to do some grouping and see which ammo shoots best with specific bullet weights. So for me, reloading does not sound like it will be very cost-effective. The only problem there lies I still may want to take up the hobby. Like you stated as well "who knows what will happen in the future with the way this crazy world is going". You had a lot of great information. Thank You once again! ( Maine North Woods Hunter) RU-vid, (Shane)
@collinmc90
@collinmc90 2 года назад
I am so happy my step grandma never got rid of my grandpas gun smithing tools. He had a full set up. Only problem is that it's all on the other side of the country. Over the years since he has passed I've gotten really into hunting, started with his old hand built 30-06. Now I'm interested in going further into the hobby. Hope I can get out there soon.
@jhscheppele2448
@jhscheppele2448 3 месяца назад
Have it shipped
@collinmc90
@collinmc90 3 месяца назад
@@jhscheppele2448 yeah not a bad idea I'll have to call her up and see if she still has them.
@CatnamedMittens
@CatnamedMittens Год назад
Great accent and great introductory video into what it takes to reload.
@wef0711
@wef0711 2 года назад
Tom, thanks so much for going through the time to put this together. Really heavily looking into doing this and what a help this has been.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
I'm so glad that helped Wes.
@lawrencemay8671
@lawrencemay8671 Год назад
I recommend de priming your brass before cleaning
@robertl4
@robertl4 Год назад
As for a tumbler I have a smaller comercial rock tumbler
@kirkboswell2575
@kirkboswell2575 Год назад
Excellent discusion video. Excellent coverage of basics. However, I disagree with your "budget friendly" startup costs. I came up with $380 vs your $500 plus figure. And if only dealing with one caliber, trimmer costs can be reduced to $20 with a Lee hand trimmer, with only $5 for each additional caliber added. That can bring costs down to $300. I certainly do agree that you have outlined a very good setup, but with "budget friendly" in mind, that cost can be effectively reduced some more. As an aside, I personally recommend keeping a Lee dipper kit on hand ($15). With good technique, it's possible to keep dipper charges within +/- one tenth - same as most affordable electronic scales. Disadvantage is that the dipper kit is technique sensitive. Do it right and you get +/- one tenth. Do it wrong and charges can vary, depending upon which powder being used, by as much as 2 grains +/- (not good). As far as when to start, I think "yesterday" is always a good answer. Again, good video.
@frugalprepper
@frugalprepper Год назад
The Lees quick trim case trimmer tool that comes with the kit requires a quick trim die for each caliber you want to trim. Also the Lee powder measure sucks for fine grain ball powders, because it leaks, so you will end up needing better powder measure if you use such powders. I started using dippers, and then got a lyman brass smith measure (really nice for the price).
@twintwo1429
@twintwo1429 Год назад
The lee perfect powder measure is adjustable to allow for metering of of various powders. It only leaks when not adjusted properly. Otherwise its broken or worn out.
@curtislong1987
@curtislong1987 Год назад
Warning ⚠️ ... reloading is as addictive as shooting. Before you know it, you'll have multiple presses. Then comes casting your own bullets, ask me how 😂
@wlbrobinson
@wlbrobinson 8 месяцев назад
This was a great video , clears the fog for a beginner
@Sammenluola
@Sammenluola Год назад
Speaking from the future (February 2023), I'd say that the best time to start reloading is yesterday. Problems in logistics, pandemic(s), politics & legislation, geopolitics, war (think Ukraine as an example), random surprises etc... They all affect what's available, at what price, and for how long. From where I'm speaking, it seems we've now hit a particularily long spell of challenges, so if you haven't already started reloading, I recommend you do it asap. It's not a question of price-per-shot anymore, but a question of mid to long term ammo security. So start now according to whatever budget you may have, and continue doing this thinking long term, with a prepper mindset. That way one may even get those price-per-shot values down. Also, very good video! Your calm and conversational delivery is a joy to follow.
@billrea66
@billrea66 Год назад
I started reloading a little over a year ago ( Sept.2021 ) . I bought a set-up from a seller for $ 1,400.00cdn. Now , I'm up to around $ 6,000.00cdn.
@thatoneguy454c
@thatoneguy454c Год назад
I got into handloading more for the ability to make high quality ammo. I can load 100 rounds of high quality 5.56 for much cheaper than I can buy it. Even with prices where they are today it is still cheaper in the long run. Same with 6.5 creedmoor. All in I am spending about 90 cents per handloaded round of 6.5 creedmoor. Comparable factory ammo would cost about 2 bucks a round or more. I have 20 pieces of brass that I have been using to see how many times I can reload them, so far I am on my 6th firing and they still seem to be good. I can load 75 grain 5.56 for about 35 cents a pop using the "factory second" OTM bullets from MidwayUSA. It sucks spending 8 cents per primer, but with inflation and everything else I really don't see the price going back to the 2-3 cent mark.
@danheino423
@danheino423 Год назад
Again...GREAT VIDEO. Gave all the alternatives,didn't try to sell one kind or another.You don;t talk like we do here on the coast of Maine LOL
@MichaelNixon-gu4ej
@MichaelNixon-gu4ej Год назад
No dis but very hard to watch dude in slowmo
@c-note4146
@c-note4146 2 года назад
I have a couple questions, if ya don’t mind. But before that, I’d like to say; This was a great video and I really appreciate you taking the time to all the labor to share it. Question 1: The corn Cobb media you mentioned you use. Was that added in your calculations and how often does it need replaced? Question 2: You mentioned using once-fired brass, ya might be able to get 3 more shots off before needing to anneal; was the factor of 3 shots for each case added into your total? Question 3: The propellant trickler. Is this component normally used in conjunction with the dispenser unit? Normally sold with the dispenser? Question 4: I was really hoping that you were planning on talking about annealing, because I’m definitely curious if you perform it, which method you use and why. But besides that, how many shots per case do you suspect you can get when you anneal? Question 5: A chronograph. I imagine this instrument would be paramount (albeit more so for the more experienced reloader) so that one could have tangible results, frame of reference and a metric from which to work while working up different loads to see which one is best suited for their particular weapon, altitude, season, etc. Look, I do not require answers to these questions, I know it’s a bit…I do request, however. But I understand we’re all very busy, so don’t feel obligated. I will come to answers at some point. Thanks again
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
1. I don't remember if I added that cost in but the corn cob media is very inexpensive and last for years. Every so often just add a little brasso to it and it will polish up brass with no problem. You can also get walnut media from Harbor Freight for very little it to will last for a long time. 2. Yes 3 shots was factored into the total. And normally you can get more than 4 firings total and depending the chamber of an individual rifle you may get twice that many firings before you start seeing split cases especially if you're just neck sizing. But your accuracy can suffer a little bit as the case neck gets worked. Not much but you can tell a difference. 3. Yes the trickler is normally used in conjunction with the dispenser. There are new fully automated dispensers that don't require a trickler but they are pretty expensive. And the reason for the trickler is primarily stick powders. Ball powder is very fine and will dispense very accurately from the dispenser, but stick powder is much courser and it feels like running rocks through a blender when you dispense it. That's an exaggeration but you can tell a big difference. The dispenser will literally cut the fine sticks on some charges and that roughness can cause some variation on the powder weight so you set the dispenser a little light and then use the trickler to add a view grains as needed. That isn't required because you can still get very good accuracy and consistent velocity even with a little variation in the powder charge weight and that's one of the benefits of stick powder it is very stable and forgiving. But with the trickler you'll know your charges are the exact weight at least up to the accuracy of your scale. 4. I do not anneal just because for me it's not worth it. I can conservatively get 4 shots per case with new brass and that's 200 shots for a bag of cases. I can go through some rounds doing load testing but after I find a good load for a hunting rifle 200 rounds will most likely last me from then on unless I just decide to do some experimenting for what every reason. My target rifles are different and will get shot a lot more, but 200 rounds is still a lot of firings. And a new 50 round bag of brass isn't that much ($30 to $40) and it used to be even cheaper. If you do anneal you can probably get at least twice as many shots per case before you start having problems with the primer pocket. And I recommend you watch the video by Gun Blue 490 on annealing. He has a great video that explains almost everything on that subject. And you should also watch his reloading videos to see his approach. His videos are long but he goes into much greater detail than I did here. 5. And you do not have to have a chronograph but it really helps. I didn't have one for several years and just set up my loads for accuracy and would check them at different distances and that worked. I took deer with those loads no problems but the chronograph really helps by giving you precise velocity on the loads. That helps you fine tune your loads but also with calculating your trajectory and bullet drop at distance. A chronograph is definitely worth the money and they aren't nearly as expensive as they used to be. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I hope this helped answer your questions and if you have any more question just ask.
@c-note4146
@c-note4146 2 года назад
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving wow! If I could “like (thumbs up)” more than once, I would do so, countless times. I really enjoyed the in depth text you provided along side the in depth video. I’ve found both extremely helpful and am absorbing all the excellent information. I appreciate the years of experience and learning you’ve endured so that you may be in this position to share, genuinely more than words can convey. Thank you very much!
@011CJ
@011CJ 2 года назад
I have a few thousand primers but Thay are older then me and I was born in 86 so I know when I smash them with a hammer Thay go pop realy loud I just wish I could get primers cheap and easy again . I like reloading for cost on my hunting ammo . And started with no press just old-school hand loading . Now I make my own 2 9/16 12g shells
@rogercoffey3794
@rogercoffey3794 Год назад
You can get everything you need except for primers. There's a reason for that shit.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving Год назад
If you check often and regularly at the usually places you can find large rifle primers every now and then. I recently got 2000 Federal Large Rifle primers from Nachez. And the small rifle and pistol primers seem to be readily available right now. So it's getting better slowly but surely.
@dgreenapple
@dgreenapple 2 года назад
It's funny how every video made by advanced reloaders talking about "How to start reloading on a budget" includes a comment or more by the video-maker about how he now uses the "high end" reloading tool (scale, calipers, tumbler, prep-station, etc.) but started out with the "entry level" one. Nobody ever addresses the fact that buying it twice costs a lot more money. I would buy the best available equipment the first time and never buy it twice. That will cost between $1,500 - $2,600 for the full setup.
@mike196425
@mike196425 Год назад
I'm just wanting to reload for hunting ammo, in 2 calibers 300 WM and the 30/30. I figure the RCBS single stage is probably my best idea
@johnsnyder5470
@johnsnyder5470 2 года назад
I have started and stopped reloading several times in my 50 years of shooting. In retrospect, I never shot enough to justify the cost but thought I could craft custom ammo that would be the most accurate in my rifles and or handguns. At the end of that 50 years, I now realize that the ultimate accuracy I was seeking is entirely unnecessary and contributed nothing to my hunts. I always "took a bath" when selling my equipment. Shooting perhaps 500 handgun rounds and 500 rifle rounds (mostly rimfire) a year, there is clearly no need to invest in reloading equipment and components. Just my experience.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
I completely agree about ultimate accuracy not being necessary for hunting, and that reloading isn't really a benefit for someone that doesn't shoot very much. And wish I had stressed that a little more in the video.
@nohandle257
@nohandle257 2 года назад
My hand loading is about the security of knowing I will have ammo for the rest of my life, putting food on the table and being fully independent. To heck with the cost.
@mikelwalters6505
@mikelwalters6505 2 года назад
Hello Mr Rivers, yep I finally got into reloading. So I guess that makes me a novice. hopefully you can answer my question. I had one guy answer me back he was totally off the subject that I asked about. my question is, I'm reloading 9mm with a Lee single stage press. with a 3 Lee 9mm die set. the maximum bullet overall length is 1.169. it appears that the press is not consistent with every bullet seating. it may be 1.1685, 1.166 occasionally 1.169. I think the lowest one has been around 1.153. I'm using a caliper and a 9mm case gauge. I know it's important to stay within the specs. you think these numbers will be ok. Thanks
@TheDEXMAN11
@TheDEXMAN11 Год назад
40 year old Hornady M2 Case tumbler still going strong! Thousands of cases every year.
@2pugman
@2pugman Год назад
My guess is most reloading prices are up about 20%. I'm getting everything 'cept small pistol primers. The ones I did buy were $90.00. That hurts.
@mikerussell6212
@mikerussell6212 2 года назад
I don't think u know what you are talking about ,I've been loading for 60 years an still learning u need alot of things to do it properly
@TomRiverSimpleLiving
@TomRiverSimpleLiving 2 года назад
Mike I watched my Dad load with a hand held system and a powder scoop and kill deer. I was being generous in saying that all of this was needed. But I do think this is what is needed to do a good job and safely? If you think I left something out please let me know.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 Год назад
Having reloaded for about 60 years my self and well as collecting guns and my father worked with a gunsmith who was good friend with a guy who lived in Ashland oregon back in the 50’s and 60’s you might know him by his last name Nosler so I have been around the block a couple times too! I think Tom covered most of the basic things needed to do basic reloading! Now someone could always say you need this or that but getting started it’s better IMHO to start with the basic processes first!
@rkow8508
@rkow8508 2 года назад
I feel anyone that shoots should learn to reload. Feel bad for people just starting. The price and availability of components aren't the best. I remember shooting my first few rounds felt like a champion.
@beestoe993
@beestoe993 2 года назад
You're gonna scare the youngsters making minimum wage off Tom. ;) Ive been reloading since the 70's and I still dont have a bullet puller, I know a neat little trick that works pretty good though. It involves a pair of linemans pliers and my reloading press. I have a forster trimmer similar to the RCBS one and I never use it. I prefer the Lee method with a cordless drill. When I started reloading I found an inexpensive Lyman acculine press, a set of 7mm RM RCBS dies, a Speer manual, a Lee dipper set, a Lee primer tool and a few other items, got some components and started making ammunition. Things were different then. There are "some" good sources on the internet for loading data, but people need to stick to known, reputable sources for that. Now I have a plethora of presses, load for a plethora of cartridges and I'm even swaging my own bullets. It really doesnt have to cost a lot to get started, some old vintage presses and scales, etc are still very good and can be found at great prices. Almost all of my dies are RCBS. Their customer service alone is worth the cost. Great company that makes great products. But for those just starting out a lot of Lee stuff is very innovative and and affordable. I have several powder measures and the cheap Lee is still one of my favorites. It is very accurate and handles long stick powders real good. This really isnt a good time to start reloading because of the lack of components. But considering the rising cost of ammunition it MIGHT be a good time to start gearing up for reloading. So when primers and powder hit the market again, you will be ready!
@scottbailey8158
@scottbailey8158 Год назад
Great video. I have never reloaded but just a couple days I bought my dad's kit from him lots of stuff. I don't have any idea hie to do it I been watching video after video. I saw a fancy electric powder depencer some dude was using. He and his son shot in competitions. I just want nice tight groups at range. You sir is my favorite so far. The next big thing to happen? I'm afraid war. I hope to God I'm wrong though.
@timhatchett7048
@timhatchett7048 2 года назад
After you get the hard-core equipment and dies you’re mainly looking bullet cases and primers and powder I’ve been working on it for a year on a fixed income and I finally got ready to start by my dies I wanna do it for a hobby and I get tired of going and hunting season and they have one particular brand or grain of bullet that you’re stuck with but I think people will enjoy doing it it’s not for everybody but I don’t know I’m going to enjoy it I’ve stuck with the RCVS
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