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What Does LIVE Singing Sound Like In Kpop? 

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@aintnootherfan
@aintnootherfan 8 месяцев назад
THE ANSWERS EASY 1. Lip-sync; standard SM music show style 2. Live, no backtrack 3. Very much lip-sync 4. So live! 5. Lip-sync clearly 6. This couldn't be more live! props to Natty 7. Lip-sync MEDIUM 1. Live, but the backtrack is quite loud 2. Tried to fool you with Lily; she's been sick throughout the recent promotions so this is not live 3/4. Slightly tricky; this is pre-recorded so they're not singing live - but the track itself is very well made, sounds quite natural although Mina will never on the same volume as Jeongyeon 5. This part is lipped! Yoohyeon struggles with it live quite a bit 6. This part is also lipped! Totally understandable though, plus the mics were on 7. Backtrack is loud, but Lia is singing live HARD 1. The backtrack kinda comes and goes in this one; it's very well balanced and quite seamless. Chan is live, but skips a few moments 2. Giselle is not live, you can hear Karina in the back later 3. Not live, except for Winter's 2 last notes; mics are on 4. Hyunjin doesn't sing the low part, Changbin is live 5. Live, good job! 6. Loud backtrack, Jennie peaks through though 7. Good track! San picks and chooses his parts; makes sense with the choreo
@WinChi_315
@WinChi_315 8 месяцев назад
Despite being sick, Lily still delivered vocals during their encore performances though 😍
@pablojoelaban363
@pablojoelaban363 8 месяцев назад
I got easy and medium all correct but hard was hard I got ateez, bangchan and aespa wrong
@4mation81
@4mation81 8 месяцев назад
Only got hyunjin wrong💪
@_underwater__
@_underwater__ 8 месяцев назад
Got everything right except for Giselle
@lemonnnkake
@lemonnnkake 8 месяцев назад
I’m still horrible at guessing lmao-for some reason I got more of hard right then medium
@hyunjinie_lixie_chanie4514
@hyunjinie_lixie_chanie4514 8 месяцев назад
“unless you’re an nmixx memeber or solar” i actually died but thats so trueee🧍🏻‍♀️❤️😩
@pigmouse7221
@pigmouse7221 8 месяцев назад
ikr!
@itsmepotatogrande9335
@itsmepotatogrande9335 8 месяцев назад
The solar belting her heart out while spinning lololol
@Lixxies_brownie
@Lixxies_brownie 8 месяцев назад
Nmixx is the standard for 4th gen vocals
@HelpmeImdying26
@HelpmeImdying26 8 месяцев назад
@@Lixxies_brownie so true seungberry
@pixcaine
@pixcaine 8 месяцев назад
@@itsmepotatogrande9335 I literally laughed so hard at this part she's so iconic😭
@busybody5381
@busybody5381 8 месяцев назад
NMIXX is becoming more confidence and comfortable with their singing. In Dash comeback, they literally tone-down the backtrack and you can clearly see when someone is not singing some parts as if they are literally saying, "yep we dont sing that one" thus some of their audio can be heard up and down.
@CleverUsername69420
@CleverUsername69420 8 месяцев назад
Especially in the stages where Lily is too sick to hit her high note in the second prechorus. I’m so glad they both aren’t pushing her and aren’t pretending that illness doesn’t affect the voice
@Glorialolx
@Glorialolx 8 месяцев назад
“Make sure you’re not listening to the actual CD’s” 😂😂😂
@u1o1
@u1o1 8 месяцев назад
Someone is definitely into Run for Roses
@potato_0_0
@potato_0_0 8 месяцев назад
I mean who wouldn't
@miyuki5205
@miyuki5205 8 месяцев назад
It’s so addicting 😫
@thisisnancybot
@thisisnancybot 8 месяцев назад
Me!
@inter.stellar
@inter.stellar 8 месяцев назад
I'm a Passionfruit person, but love a good Soñar and Run for Roses.
@sunhyolic
@sunhyolic 8 месяцев назад
@@inter.stellarfr, we are all united by passionfruit
@soona22573
@soona22573 8 месяцев назад
Old SM chorographers made sure to give the main singer their moment to perform tricky and hard notes, they would show that even in the dance practice videos, e.g Taeyon in Genie and Jonghyun in Lucifer
@s.lotus74
@s.lotus74 8 месяцев назад
more recently in step back (GOT) they gave wendy and taeyon good parts for their upper range belts too
@kpoplea6170
@kpoplea6170 8 месяцев назад
EXO gets this alot too. Chen, Baekhyun and D.O often get a break so they can catch their breath and belt so the choreo flows around them. I always loved this :) highlights that member and the moment
@soona22573
@soona22573 8 месяцев назад
@@kpoplea6170 I totally agree but I wonder why? Is it Hype promotion? their personalities? appearance? ages and innocence? their first couple of songs were actually refreshing but I found super shy era boring..
@linoschild9255
@linoschild9255 8 месяцев назад
​@@soona22573 Who's talking about NJ?
@esmeraudeblithe3497
@esmeraudeblithe3497 8 месяцев назад
Yes true. Kpop standard has regressed. Like how tvxq, suju, snsd, FX,rv, Exo, when they live ITS live even on their Rookies day. Live singing mater a lot. Like how heechul cracked once and traumatized and asked for fewer parts
@zeid9828
@zeid9828 8 месяцев назад
People don't really care if known vocal groups (example: MAMAMOO, SNSD, BTOB, EXO, SHinee, SEVENTEEN, NMIXX) lipsyncs since they already fed people a lot of live performances and acapellas that everyone knows what their vocal capabilities are.
@fsmilka8021
@fsmilka8021 7 месяцев назад
Such a dumb logic actually. It’s still job to perform aka sing and dance
@catngaum
@catngaum 5 месяцев назад
Usually the reason of known vocal group lipsync is understandable. But doesnt mean not to care about. I do care and I know exactly when nmixx member lipsync since it's really different when they're live or not. It's easy to hear the 2 layers, their voice and backtrack, since their live voice usually loud and bold. Even the reason when one or two lip sync is because of real sick or tired after along run many songs in concert. like it's understandable. I do care. As a live performance enthusiast I do care alot. Even I could feel illfeel or cringe when watching gg or bg or soloist lipsync (without good reason), like they just dance and mouthing why would they get mic, to fool us? 👏 somehow yt short explore show me some of gg bg soloist lipsync and I just hit the don't recommend me option lol just not my type
@ryanisedino9381
@ryanisedino9381 2 месяца назад
NOT ME😂😂😂😂😂 ITS your own opinion if i watched a concert i will see to it its a live band coz live bands are the perfect form of instrumentation for a live performances no backtrack pure instrumental.. They may have back up vocals but you can easily noticed it if they are the ones singing or the back up vocals
@_underwater__
@_underwater__ 8 месяцев назад
I giggle when some fans comment "omg they're the standard for vocals!" or "they're so stable!" and they're clearly lip-syncing or backtracks
@himankmaheshwari2097
@himankmaheshwari2097 7 месяцев назад
Delusional ppl..!!!psychos
@Lixxies_brownie
@Lixxies_brownie 7 месяцев назад
*nmixx entered the chat They r the standard for vocals u cannot argue against that
@GoofyAhh69-me9tj
@GoofyAhh69-me9tj 6 месяцев назад
@@Lixxies_brownie Yessss STAN NMIXX! (and mamamoo)
@Lixxies_brownie
@Lixxies_brownie 6 месяцев назад
@@GoofyAhh69-me9tj frfr
@rosesyn
@rosesyn 8 месяцев назад
I actually don't consider a performance "live" if the backtrack is too loud that you can't hear their voices. I don't see the point why they turn their mic on at all.
@hopscotch5872
@hopscotch5872 8 месяцев назад
I find that in those cases the fancans usually let you hear the hidden live vocals. Post-production on TV shows like Masked Singer and Music Bank can completely obscure the liveness.
@annanowak9620
@annanowak9620 8 месяцев назад
I agree
@marinamina2540
@marinamina2540 8 месяцев назад
For me the worst is when it’s looks like idol is fighting with too loud backtrack. For example, in "Tally" live, it looked like Jennie and Rose had to scream for the fans to hear them
@heeyl_6387
@heeyl_6387 8 месяцев назад
They wouldn't need backtrack if they didn't need to dance. Either you use your breath to sing, or you use it to dance. Old gen doesn't have the hard choreography and demand that they have today. Imagine having your career ended cus of haters waiting for any vocal fail? I keep seeing haters question Belle's vocals cus of that moment her voice fail during a dance move.
@ajlee2168
@ajlee2168 7 месяцев назад
@@heeyl_6387 thats true but i think you missed the point. i think they meant why bother trying to sing over the backtrack at that point? if its used during a hard part of the choreo, you would just not sing in that moment. if the backtrack is so loud that you cant hear their voices for the whole song, why not either just lipsync to begin with, only lipsync during those hard parts or sing completely live/ with a quieter backtrack throughout when the choreo isnt that hard. its completely fine to stop singing during difficult parts for a few seconds, but if i cant hear their voices for the whole song, why even bother.
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 8 месяцев назад
Idc if the Kpop idols have vocal cracks when they sing live, if they have a bad moment when they're singing over backtrack, THEY'RE SINGING LIVE
@chaimaanm8905
@chaimaanm8905 8 месяцев назад
guys, i think he maybe likes run for roses.
@A_Comfy_Blanket
@A_Comfy_Blanket 8 месяцев назад
As you should!
@trinhvietanh9521
@trinhvietanh9521 8 месяцев назад
That “unlesss you are NMIXX or Solar” with Solar swinging on the poll belting Despacito 😂 The best thing with Mamamoo that they designed most of their performances so no one force them to do anything and you can always see how much they enjoybthe stage. Like that fancam of Solar - she was geting high on the music just as much as we were
@NMIXX_MyImpetus
@NMIXX_MyImpetus 8 месяцев назад
I love the use of Dash, Run For Roses, and Party O’Clock’s instrumentals! If you haven’t listened to the Run For Roses 360 version yet I highly recommend it, it’s amazing!
@aintnootherfan
@aintnootherfan 8 месяцев назад
I gotta listen to it!
@V_OmegA
@V_OmegA 8 месяцев назад
the "it's Live" also
@aslersoy2945
@aslersoy2945 8 месяцев назад
the note changes are amazing in that!!!
@bierangtamen
@bierangtamen 8 месяцев назад
​@aintnootherfan Please give us your opinion on it! Also, please check out fromis_9 and do a vocal analysis on them too if you have the time. They are also a 4th gen but more vocally focused than dance imo (and a hybe gg)
@honeybee347
@honeybee347 8 месяцев назад
This, nmixx is the group that sounds tailor made for that 360 audio show.
@ChloeBx
@ChloeBx 8 месяцев назад
These days they even do pre recording with their breaths and stuff it us crazy how far some companies are going to trick us
@aintnootherfan
@aintnootherfan 8 месяцев назад
You would think it’s almost easier to let your artists sing live😂😂
@Rese_AA
@Rese_AA 8 месяцев назад
When it comes to lipsynching, I think more companies should go the Beyonce route. She's so seamless with it, a lot of her fans are convinced that she sings live ALL the time. She's also very strategic with the placement, so a song will have both live and prerecorded vocals, which can be very confusing to figure out. I think she also always incorporate live adlibs, so when she does almost a full song of lip sync a la "single ladies" people are thrown off, because she speaks to the audience, so it always feels live.
@ferrigho4613
@ferrigho4613 8 месяцев назад
Belle screech after she got yeet by Natty in crazy choreography is soooo funny, and well at least we know she sang live 😂
@TomsMusicCorner
@TomsMusicCorner 8 месяцев назад
if I remember right it was their very first live stage (on a music show). Well, spinning around, give a high-five to Haneul and belting a high note at the same time was a little too much for her but she improved afterwards.
@ferrigho4613
@ferrigho4613 8 месяцев назад
@@TomsMusicCorner I know, but I find it funny hahaha
@fajar4741
@fajar4741 8 месяцев назад
Idk what SM feels insecure about. They have great singers/vocalists. They just ruined them by making them do lipsync. 😤
@jordan_ojl
@jordan_ojl 8 месяцев назад
as a vocal enthusiast, NMIXX must be satisfying your every itch for it haha
@soona22573
@soona22573 8 месяцев назад
I really can't understand why they opened NewJeans mics in the first performance, God we only hear the heavy breathing just close it :|
@via45
@via45 8 месяцев назад
Yeah like why is breathing louder than the singing? Thats basically them not singing.
@user-gp2bz3sd4k
@user-gp2bz3sd4k 8 месяцев назад
The performance for EXO's Cream Soda at The Season's is actually crazy you would think they wouldn't sing it live since they didn't in music shows as we saw in the example in this video but they did and even those tricky falsetto parts, not to say anything about their growl performance which doesn't even have a backtrack ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uLbyTwLI41c.htmlsi=Tgrsoo2jgamt1ig
@WinChi_315
@WinChi_315 8 месяцев назад
Run for Roses instrumentals all over the video🤌♥
@amadadam6620
@amadadam6620 8 месяцев назад
Run for Roses? you mean song of the year
@hitmanbangsyellowcrocs4213
@hitmanbangsyellowcrocs4213 8 месяцев назад
"..So before saying someone eats CD's for breakfast you need to make sure that you're not listening to *actual* CD's .." 💀💀 Lmao 😅 The SHAAADE ...THE SHADE OF IT ALL!! But seriously my opinion is that at Award shows the idols MUST sing live. I mean you're receiving an Award for your talent ffs, or alternatively have been nominated for one. So PROVE it! As for when on Tour they can use back track 50% of the show, and live singing 50%. Especially if it's a looong worldwide tour, like Blackpink last year 😢
@Cryforme-
@Cryforme- 8 месяцев назад
This is what i think Kpop music bank shows:- I don't care much Award shows :- you need to sing live ! Concerts nd world tours :- sing live but lipsync is fine Bcz in concerts they need to continuously perform songs so getting tired is normal That's why if you want u can lipsync but not all performances though
@busybody5381
@busybody5381 8 месяцев назад
Oh I agree! Music Shows also very demanding for their schedules, so I dont mind if it's pre-recorded but will be better if not. In concert tho, if they arent even have dance choreo and just interacting with audience or sit, nah you need to be live. It's called a concert for a reason..
@starsparklemonkey3390
@starsparklemonkey3390 8 месяцев назад
Same. Encores. I need them to be live.
@vixxexo6855
@vixxexo6855 8 месяцев назад
Honestly lipsyncing in award shows is better then lipsyncing in shows. Like in award shows many groups focuses on dancing and award show performances often have dancebreaks.
@A_Comfy_Blanket
@A_Comfy_Blanket 8 месяцев назад
There are encores where groups aren't live!!! That feels like a straight up scam 😅@@starsparklemonkey3390
@fsmilka8021
@fsmilka8021 7 месяцев назад
@@vixxexo6855they do those week shows almost everyday and sometimes several a shows a day during their comeback. Lots of idols sleep about 2-3 hours everyday for 2-3 weeks and you expect them to sing live? It’s just not good for their throats. I’m wondering how are they even stay alive
@THECV
@THECV 8 месяцев назад
SHINee is always the standard when it comes to encores and live performances. In 2023, SHINee that needs to deal with Jjong's physical absence, had to put 2MinKey to deal with Jinki's hiatus. They did 2 weeks of promotion, shows in Korea and a tour with several shows in Japan. All this at the same time that Kibum did shows and 2 solo comebacks last year, and works on programs for entertainment. Just like Minho in his acting and modeling work, and also his career as a kpop soloist. Finally, Taemin who returned from the army doing fan meeting, SHINee's comeback and promoting his solo career with stages around the world, and comeback and show in Korea. During the Japan tour, he went back and forth to Korea to take care of Guilty's comeback, and for the Metamorph show, he had to rehearse for days and days during the late hours of the night, as SHINee performed several songs live at the 3 Gayos (KBS, SBS e MBC), and also held a special stage in MMA. The guys, even with a 15-year career, once again demonstrated professionalism and excellence despite the difficulties. With just 3 idols from the 2nd generation and over 30 years old, but singing perfectly without their 2 main vocals while concomitantly promoting solo careers: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e79lf4S3gKo.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BcLN1LJ5Tdw.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8BkThFFgdzo.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-95uEt9EzpV8.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C8mU9iHnbus.htmlfeature=shared And here Onew is giving a live performance class: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-poW-SjZ3RKw.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uZGjYaWC50E.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B0syK0a64Pw.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yCAlIou89v4.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9UFMGsuuQYs.htmlfeature=shared SHINee is the pinnacle of kpop in live performances: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z6XpsixQxRI.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gJnuz45t8ew.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sfWL5KARVFY.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mtFK7FxKdLs.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uuE7RvU6Qkk.htmlfeature=shared Onew is on hiatus, but made 2 solo comebacks, recorded several albums and performed several solo shows in 2022-2023. The album "Circle" is a masterpiece that was chosen by Billboard as the best kpop album of 2023. May our leader be taking good care of himself and recovering. Jonghyun will always be one of kpop's greatest vocalists and lyricists. Creator of several poetic and vocal masterpieces. Our angel who is the foundation of SHINee. Stan the group known as Idol of Idols. Stan kpop legends. Stan Art. Stan 5HINee.
@sliverhalo9286
@sliverhalo9286 8 месяцев назад
Ever since Ive discovered Shinee I have honestly fell in love with them. While quite a few of their songs are not my taste I will always have respect for them. View is one of my most streamed songs in 2023
@THECV
@THECV 8 месяцев назад
@@sliverhalo9286 View will always be timeless. Jonghyun, in addition to writing the lyrics and composing it, worked with SHINee to introduce the Deep House genre into kpop. Since their debut, SHINee has been described as an experimental group, so they never repeat formulas, and in these almost 16 years, they have one of the most well-made and varied discographies in kpop. This also applies to soloist careers. Speaking of View's live performance, this one is one of the most legendary: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZSj1aM0k8PM.htmlfeature=shared Now in February, SHINee will do 2 days of shows with just 3 members, and at the giant Tokyo Dome. The quality and energy of these guys is unbelievable. Let's just hope that our leadernim is getting better and better, and come back now in 2024 so we can see the 4 on stage again with Jjong always being in our hearts.
@hitmanbangsyellowcrocs4213
@hitmanbangsyellowcrocs4213 8 месяцев назад
Wuuuhh 👏👏 Girl had time, and RECEIPTS!! Thanks babe 😊😊
@danyaleman7277
@danyaleman7277 8 месяцев назад
The comment i was looking for. SHINee IS THE STANDARD
@kristinejxxv
@kristinejxxv 6 месяцев назад
LEGIT 💯💯💯
@soona22573
@soona22573 8 месяцев назад
sometimes I'd to listen to whole performance to tell if it's live, noticing the moments where it's impossible to sing while jumping around, even Michael Jackson the icon of icons was very smart with his moves vs notes, watch his billie jean performances for example, he KNEW when to sing and when to focus on cool physical moves.
@jaqswang
@jaqswang 8 месяцев назад
got them all right! i feel like a good student of the ain’t no other fan live vocal academy
@aintnootherfan
@aintnootherfan 8 месяцев назад
omg that's so cool!!
@WorldifySanity
@WorldifySanity 8 месяцев назад
I love your love for EXO. 😊 Any chance you could comment on Suho's and Xiumin's voices?
@dean.mcmxcvi
@dean.mcmxcvi 8 месяцев назад
Omg natty giving it her all in #6 😮😂🗣️
@HungerGamesFanatic11
@HungerGamesFanatic11 8 месяцев назад
if i'm gonna pay potentially hundreds of dollars to go to a kpop concert, they better dang well be singing live for the most part
@cellycellycelly
@cellycellycelly 8 месяцев назад
Enhypen is a group I am quite confused with... I feel like the main vocal, heeseung, barely sings live and skips his line way more than some members like niki, Jay, sunoo, or jungwon. Jungwons vocal technique isn’t the best but he still manages to sing almost all his lines in their performances in my opinion. Is heeseung just singing TOO on key and it’s hard to differentiate his live singing with the backtrack or is he skipping his lines?
@sliverhalo9286
@sliverhalo9286 8 месяцев назад
I am not an engene so I have not seen their live stages but based on your descriptions it seems Heeseung is picking and choosing which parts he sings live
@lordinquisitorstefanauster846
@lordinquisitorstefanauster846 7 месяцев назад
Biggest flex of a group = " unless you are an NMIXX member"
@amethyst034
@amethyst034 8 месяцев назад
I love how the Kpop end of year award shows forced everyone to sing Live.,
@Cappuccinocream
@Cappuccinocream 8 месяцев назад
I wonder what prompted them to do so😂😂😂😂😂 maybe the AAA 2023?
@fsmilka8021
@fsmilka8021 7 месяцев назад
What shows have you watched? Because most of the shows I’ve watch this year were not live or were not live for most of the groups
@violetception
@violetception 8 месяцев назад
i wish we got to hear more of san's live vocals during live stages- they give my man all the falsetto parts and all the crazy choreo and it forces him to prioritize the integrity of the dance performance. like you said, he's very strategic with which parts he chooses to sing. but god, when he gets to show off like in the bridge of utopia (seriously his vibrato during that belted note is so lovely) i feel so happy, though those opportunities are few and far between :(
@soup8160
@soup8160 8 месяцев назад
Meanwhile.. *Rosé choking on her notes* BP haters: that’s backtrack.
@ProteinShak3
@ProteinShak3 8 месяцев назад
The use of backing track should be accepted especially in KPOP since the idol industry consists of singing and dancing at the same time. Singing live is great, but there will be times where idols need the support of backtracks since in their line of work, overworking is a common thing especially for the more popular ones as their schedules tend to be fully booked most of the time. As far as Music Shows go, I don't really care whether they sing live or use pre-recorded vocals, it's fine for me. Award Shows? I don't mind the backing tracks but I hope they mix in live vocals when they perform, at the very least, it'll show their authenticity and sincerity as idols. At concerts? I expect live vocals but wouldn't mind if they go for a couple of performances with just backtracks, a 2-3hour concert isn't some walk-in-the-park even for artists that are solely focused on being singers, idols perform songs with choreographies while being expected to sing live as well, so let's cut them some slack if they need to rest for 1 or 2 performances with just backing tracks. As for those MR removed videos, I only watched a couple of times cause I find it cringy to listen to, even for the groups like Twice or NMIXX which are my top2 groups. During this week's promotion of NMIXX's Dash, there were a couple of stages where Lily didn't seem to sing live while performing, some said she was feeling sick for those days so it was understandable that she didn't sing live while performing, but she did sing live during the encores where they won first place though. 2 of those wins, I noticed Lily really was not feeling well as it was noticeable in her voice. But she still killed it, as always. So far, NMIXX has won 4x for Dash and I feel proud for them.
@ProteinShak3
@ProteinShak3 8 месяцев назад
Medium #2 was one of the performances where it was noticeable that Lily did not sing live. It's fine since she was feeling unwell, so it'll be too draining and too difficult for her to dance while belting some of her parts as well. Her godly vocals need some rest from time to time too.
@sliverhalo9286
@sliverhalo9286 8 месяцев назад
It will never not shock me the state of live singing today... Idols should do it far more. I don't care if there is a backtrack you should only be not singing live when you can in not good condition period or if you are putting in a 2-3 hour concert but there should still be some live vocals present
@somebodygill8666
@somebodygill8666 8 месяцев назад
Please listen to Run for Roses 360 sound boom. You will love it😭 i was so satisfied
@D.D.suchetka
@D.D.suchetka 8 месяцев назад
I'm definitely team live vocals. They are singers, right? So it's basically their job to sing. I get that sometimes you are sick and can't really pull it out, but nowadays it's more commmon to see groups lip-sync than singing live, wich is really sad. And choreaography that is too hard to sing while performing is absurd to me. Like, just make diferent choregorapy, so the member singing at the moment don't have to jump simultaneously... Here's a link to one of my farvorite lifestreams where mebers sing while goofing around and still sound amazing. It seems so easy and natural to them. I wish kpop agences paid more attention to singing abilites than anything else... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H2CrGWtKS9U.html
@matheusreidopedaco
@matheusreidopedaco 5 месяцев назад
For me, it is: music shows: they perform on those so often I think it would actually be damaging to their voice singing all live, every time. awards: you must sing live. No other option. You're there because your talent and hard work was recognized, so don't you dare to fake it. tours: I think it's fine a few lip sync here and there, but c'mon, don't lie to the people who paid money to see you.
@elgrandemaryen
@elgrandemaryen 8 месяцев назад
In love this the transition being Run for Roses obsessed with RFR
@Kiki_248
@Kiki_248 8 месяцев назад
I enjoy your videos so much (and your love for nmixx!)❤ For a next vocal ranking I'd think it'd be so cool if you look into the band side of kpop maybe? FNC Entertainment has a bunch of (my favourite) bands, as well as there's Rolling Quartz, Xdinary Heros, Day6 etc :D
@mix4n
@mix4n 8 месяцев назад
I really enjoy this clip. Thank you so much. I firmly believe that live singing should always be highly valued, as it embodies the essence of a true performance. This is a point beyond debate. However, I do acknowledge and support the use of A/R (Audio/Recording) in situations like health concerns. My quandary lies in whether many K-pop group members (honestly, quite a few) can deliver a performance at the same level as their recorded tracks without intense choreography. As a long-time K-pop fan, I'm concerned that the inability of most top-tier artists of the 4th generation to do so could lead to dire consequences. Pretending to sing a part without the assistance of auto-tune or other technological aids, when one cannot actually perform it to the level of the recorded version, is frankly, a deception. I'm not in the business of being duped. As an economics enthusiast, I can't help but think of Gresham's Law: 'Bad money drives out good.' This isn't just a phenomenon in economics; it's happening in K-pop too. Wise consumers shouldn't have to be vigilant about what they consume. If something is advertised as organic food but is actually just a bundle of chemicals, what would you do? Show business is no different. Without a minimum guarantee of authenticity, it's nothing but a sham. I strongly support NMIXX and some others such as Kiss of Life, Stay C, Purple Kiss, and some more. The reason is simple. They record what they can actually perform, not do a fake thing. Some may argue K K-pop idols have different features such as influencers etc. I would simply reply don't spend any single pennies of yours on a fake thing.
@johneisleytiu5110
@johneisleytiu5110 5 месяцев назад
2nd Gen groups were the golden era of live vocals. They better bring back years of training camp 😂 They be debuting half-baked idols now
@LizzyLoves91
@LizzyLoves91 8 месяцев назад
My favorite KPop singer is BoA, who sings live very often, especially on tour. You can hear the imperfections and the differences between the live vocals and studio recordings. Of course, she doesn’t always sing live as she is oftentimes incredibly dance-focused, but more often than not, she’s performing live. She is a Gen 1 performer, though, so the standard may have been different back then and the majority of her tours and concerts take place in Japan where there’s more of an emphasis on live singing. Still, I have always appreciated her performance skills. She’s great!
@trancedoutkid
@trancedoutkid 8 месяцев назад
I finally caught a video premiere?? Im so happy😭 also opening on EXO members is such a small, easy way to get me invested. Now lets see if my EXO-L training has made me capable of picking up live vocals!!
@enricke7907
@enricke7907 8 месяцев назад
On the physical signs of singing part, I remember wonyoung's clip hitting the high note with clearly NO physical signs of singing. lmao
@little11clarinet
@little11clarinet 6 месяцев назад
if you don't care if kpop idols can sing then you are just stanning good looks....
@s.mjk__ig
@s.mjk__ig 6 месяцев назад
This person is for sure an nswer ❤#nmixx
@stefnick2010
@stefnick2010 8 месяцев назад
Interesting, live vs lipsync tends to be obvious when you know what to look for. For Music Shows, I don't think its necessary to sing live, since I never thought that was the point of music shows. Music Shows are just ads, the companies put on an elaborate show for their artist to look as good as possible for the camera/broadcast. Singing poorly or making a mistake during music shows attracts a lot of criticism because a mixed audience views it, I understand not exerting more effort than necessary. For Concerts, I expect mostly live vocals and strategic use of backtrack or lip-sync if necessary, like if the idol isn't in good physical condition. Since, the audience is paying money to watch the idol perform. Not only do I think that live vocals make the performance feel fuller, I just think it's disrespectful to the audience. I think the same for awards shows or festivals, it's a stage similar to a concert, so I think live vocals should be prioritized.
@thamys2106
@thamys2106 8 месяцев назад
your obcession with run for roses is very relatable
@dean.mcmxcvi
@dean.mcmxcvi 8 месяцев назад
Lmaooooooo not the MR removed callout 😭💀 so true tho I’m always like…?
@stepsoflife
@stepsoflife 8 месяцев назад
Excellent lecture, bro!
@aintnootherfan
@aintnootherfan 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!!😊 you're too kind!
@jinniestonic
@jinniestonic 8 месяцев назад
my dad used to work as an event technician and theres automated switching between mic and backtrack which is crazy so i dont trust nothing at this point lmao
@BruhImAGirl
@BruhImAGirl 8 месяцев назад
I used to check on live singing by looking how delayed is the sound in comparison to mouth movements. By letting lip syncing go unnoticed, we lose some amazing instrument players, back vocals etc. who deserve the spotlight as well. My fave performances (not only kpop) are with orchestras/bands with all their “bad moments”
@isitbees
@isitbees 8 месяцев назад
THANK YOU for including the kelly clarkson twice performance. I love my girls but that wasnt live and its ok, i dont think any artist is ever able to perofmr live on talk shows
@PoussinNoNeko
@PoussinNoNeko 7 месяцев назад
Angelina Jordan does. She never sings with backtracks (to my knowledge).
@Diana-2506
@Diana-2506 7 месяцев назад
We share the same obsession for Run for Roses and not we are definitely not hiding it
@bf7239
@bf7239 8 месяцев назад
They use backtrack with a little bit of live vocals… it’s impossible to sing and dance for so long. I’d rather them not dance and just sing
@sodabella
@sodabella 7 месяцев назад
LOL! Those percentage that doesn't care much about live singing just to protect their favs who are bad at singing.
@purrplex8793
@purrplex8793 8 месяцев назад
what's the instrumental playing in the background, its so familiar and not at the same time??
@mixxpole
@mixxpole 7 месяцев назад
Run For Roses by NMIXX
@music_lover222
@music_lover222 8 месяцев назад
I have a feeling some groups have few members (usually rappers and sometimes main vocalists) sing live and some others almost always lip sync and that gives the illusion that the whole group always sings live but it's actually only a few members
@kamj2948
@kamj2948 8 месяцев назад
Seventeen live performances are 🔥🔥🔥
@green.sparks
@green.sparks 8 месяцев назад
NMIXX is the goat
@Cryforme-
@Cryforme- 8 месяцев назад
Pls Louder about that stability one ! It baffels me how people determine a vocalist by stability Y'all call itzy stable but in terms of vocal skills everyone in the group is a weak vocalist ( lia is a litttle bit okay-ish)
@kpopplanet2907
@kpopplanet2907 6 месяцев назад
1: not Live 2: Live 3: Not live 4: Live 5: Not live (even though I love Wonho) 6: It's clearly live 7: Not live 1: Live (I think) 2: This sounded too perfect, not live. 3: I don't think It's live 4: Not live 5: I think It's live, I could hear a little struggle. 6: This ain't live 7: The background is freaking loud, but Lia is live. 1: Bangchan is singing live. 2: This is clearly not live 3: Not live 4: Changbin is clearly live. (I couldn't hear Hyunjin that well because of the background.) 5: That was nice, I almost thought it wasn't live lol. 6: I'm gonna say It's not live 7: San I think is live.
@Andrew-ice
@Andrew-ice 5 месяцев назад
Everglow NMIXX Dreamcatcher 💛💛🥳🥳🎶🎶
@ynachoi5072
@ynachoi5072 5 месяцев назад
3:53 omg not being disrespectful but i laughed out loud when I heard kiss of life.. she was singing stably then when she was flung, it was like woooaaagh
@Joonpathy
@Joonpathy 8 месяцев назад
I feel you. I am obsessed with Run for rsoes as well.
@min-ji1510
@min-ji1510 7 месяцев назад
Wanna say, i very much enjoyed watching the video (and Run For Roses i heard the MIXX uni thing for it fell in love with it and found out it wasnt out yet, forgot about it till 2 weeks again and then i learned the dancs, i love it alot-)
@Lei3195i
@Lei3195i 8 месяцев назад
I'm obsessed with run for roses too twin! 🙌🏼
@mymasmith7848
@mymasmith7848 5 месяцев назад
I'm an ELF. Having a group full of idols who can sing is one of the reasons why Super Junior is still around. For almost a decade one or more were out on military service. No problem. The guys would switch up parts all the time, because they sang live live. Who is singing Kyuhyun's line this time? Sometimes Yesung, sometimes Leeteuk, sometimes Donghae or even Siwon.
@Soufriere84
@Soufriere84 8 месяцев назад
Lily prides herself on her ability to sing live -- it must have driven her crazy that she was sick during the promotion period so had to rest her voice and lip-sync major performances. At least most fans were understanding of the situation.
@astridtot
@astridtot 8 месяцев назад
honestly, i value live vocals a lot. there's just something about them that can't be emulated in lipsync/overly loud backtracks. i think this is why i've been sort of shifting gears from kpop to other genres like musical theater
@lizzys4213
@lizzys4213 7 месяцев назад
EASY 1. not live 2. live 3. not live 4. live!! (iconic sullyeon) 5. not live (so obvious tho) 6. live! (natty ate) 7. not live💀 MEDIUM 1. live 2. not live, although the other members sang live on this performance, i guess lily was feeling sick 3. live? they at least got some autotune 4. live? again 5. live¿ ok is starting to get hard 6. not live 7. soo live HARD ( i hope i got it all right until now) 1. live 2. live but the backtrack is very loud 3. live 4. live, although hyunjin wasn't singing his part 5. live! (ateez vocal kings) 6. live 7. live yay
@vidv1924
@vidv1924 7 месяцев назад
The thing about choreographies not made to is so true. Taking wayv as exemple, somehow they have managed to do some amazing vocals (and a voice crack) in turn back time and soon after they had to adapt the choreo
@Teume-Blink
@Teume-Blink 8 месяцев назад
I hate how Treasure is never included in these videos while they are litteraly one of the best vocal groups in kpop.
@lolipop23138
@lolipop23138 7 месяцев назад
Bcos they re considered as a flop group from the big 4. It sad
@Teume-Blink
@Teume-Blink 7 месяцев назад
@@lolipop23138 They are litteraly the 4th most famous 4th gen boy group🤦🏿‍♀️. And they are problably not included because they have the best vocals among the 4th gen boy groups 💅🏿 .
@lolipop23138
@lolipop23138 7 месяцев назад
@@Teume-Blink but it's quite rare to see them included in videos or shorts. This is a real observation and i dont understand why And I had seen a short where they were called the flop of the big 4.
@EllaSweety-rh7jb
@EllaSweety-rh7jb 7 месяцев назад
@@lolipop23138 i got intoTreasure few month ago and ive also noticed that. People like to drag them by saying if they weren't under YG they would be nothing. And only achieve good sales bcos of their Asian fans cos the western kpop world barely remembers their existence. And this is kinda true if we compare them to other 4th gen groups like Txt, Skz, Enhypen and Ateez who got 1st on Billboard and charts in Uk. Even they have more fan in Asia, they sell better than some gg and bg but pple barely talk about them or know their songs outside the fandom. Its frustrating. But I blame Yg because they barely promote them in the West. No Usa concert nor europe. Anything
@heeyl_6387
@heeyl_6387 8 месяцев назад
Even Beyoncé uses backtrack and does lypsync. Don't expect idols to not do the same. It's not human to do choreography and be able to sing in tune for two hours straight, even if there are 10 members in the group to share the burden of singing live
@arawitha6701
@arawitha6701 5 месяцев назад
"Unless you're an nmixx member or solar" . 😂😂😂
@lolwhyamihere8775
@lolwhyamihere8775 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, at music shows I really don't care because choreo has gotten more intense, and they record at stupid hours of the morning in the middle of other comeback-related schedules, it just seems riduclously difficult to maintain good voice hygiene - But at encores, festivals, award shows, concerts etc. I expect live vocals but can understand backing track in the choruses tbh
@nic7520
@nic7520 8 месяцев назад
At this point, I don't believe survival show performances of the idols are live. They all just sound fake. I feel like they just record unstably or just add some voice cracks to make it sound like they're rookie trainees performing in a stage.
@katelady1370
@katelady1370 8 месяцев назад
Dreamcatcher are really good at singing live. And it’s really impressive considering their choreo is on the more difficult side for girl groups.
@Joonpathy
@Joonpathy 8 месяцев назад
Whenever Nmixx is on stage, I never doubt the fact that they are singing live!! Those girls are scary and all 4th/5th gen groups should be scared of them fr
@Soufriere84
@Soufriere84 8 месяцев назад
Yet ironically Lily WASN'T singing live for several shows in the most recent comeback due to being sick, and yes she said she felt bad about it… But it IS about time NMIXX finally got the recognition they deserve for their live vocals!
@skeletonflower_
@skeletonflower_ 5 месяцев назад
I like it when they're lipsynching shamelessly and don't even bother singing along. I think it's only fair. You'll know that dancing is the point of the performance. I watched one of Shinee's year-end performances, and it was obvious that the intro wasn't live. They chose to perform a few of their old songs, and they didn't even bother to make new backing tracks. You could hear Jonghyun's and Onew's (he was on hiatus) singing, although I think they sang too but it wasn't loud enough. They clearly wanted to show the songs as the way they're supposed to be.
@sheonyx
@sheonyx 8 месяцев назад
from the clip alone, i would've guessed jennie's lee hyori performance was prerecorded! her support is very good but it looks like she lacks stamina from the amount of parts she skipped. other than that i aced my test~
@rennrenn.3SSS
@rennrenn.3SSS 8 месяцев назад
somehow for me it was hard to guess in the medium category lol, anyways good video!! (my answers were 18/21 )
@ammonitastoried2561
@ammonitastoried2561 8 месяцев назад
My favorite thing to show people how missleading pre-recordes can be is Tresuares Jikjin promotion. The pre-recorded track is SO flawed that you want to think it is live, but it is not. There is even award show performance where they actually sing parts of the song, but it is quite visibable that they don't sing it generally. If you know what singing physicly looks like.
@Hlebka
@Hlebka Месяц назад
I hate lipsyncing/backing tracks so much... especially when idols tend to skip some dance moves/choreo to "save energy" like they need to save breath or something even though they are only lipsyncing... I noticed Taemin is underperforming recently in his lives. You can clearly see it when you compare him to the backup dancers
@auriels1451
@auriels1451 8 месяцев назад
I totally care about live vocals! Been listening to kpop since like 2011 and strangely havent been to a single gig live till last yr. Saw le sserafim perform and while I respect their hard work and enjoy their music/choreo - I knew it was all backing track and came away feeling very unsatisfied. But maybe I'm also biased as a muso hahaha XD
@lexjordan9910
@lexjordan9910 8 месяцев назад
As a Gen1 fan, I've always wanted to know what I was enjoying and what I want to enjoy in Kpop. In the common enjoyer, I guess Visuals and popularity is major factor because people don't have time to distinguish which is Recorded/backtracked. But for me, I want to enjoy the vocals. I loved the SNSD's TTS girls back in the day. I've always loved Solar and Wheein. Wendy carried RVV. I love her. And now, I guess NMIXX ruined 4th gen for me. Let's just say they are just good vocals but the dance choreo they are doing with the singing. I just love it.
@saidaelmrabet2934
@saidaelmrabet2934 8 месяцев назад
Can you talk about bigbang?
@matsuko981
@matsuko981 8 месяцев назад
I am happy you put Lia’s live singing stage, knowing she is currently on hiatus and we can’t see her for the time being . Keep up your good work.😊
@Jiyuww
@Jiyuww 7 месяцев назад
That's why my ults are Kiss of Life and NMIXX
@pri7116
@pri7116 7 месяцев назад
Otra cosa que note mucho es que en una misma presentacion de un grupo algunos cantan en vivo y otros hacen palyback. Lo note principalmente en BTS, muy notorio, y en stray kids
@nobodyblahblah8818
@nobodyblahblah8818 7 месяцев назад
I think idols should sing live while performing in their best because it's their job and people are paying for it.
@bea_hae_tae9392
@bea_hae_tae9392 8 месяцев назад
Comparing recordings to musical programs and concert versions is pointless. All singers and groups first record the performance several times and then it is shown in the program, sometimes what you see may be the result of cut and properly processed material, so discussing whether the vocal is live it doesn't make sense. In the case of concerts, the situation is different - whether you have a good sound engineer is crucial, because if he sets the sensitivity or soundtrack incorrectly, it may help or harm the performer. Experienced artists know when to focus on background music and when to delight fans with vocals. As for the choreography, it can be prepared in such a way that it does not interfere with, but even enhances, some fragments of the piece Well, if someone doesn't understand it, don't confuse others
@azra_aurora10
@azra_aurora10 6 месяцев назад
Good Kpop LIVE singing = IU
@kelocoche
@kelocoche 8 месяцев назад
This is one of my fav channels, you never miss with your content! BTW hope you're doing well with all the studying 💪
@maxmase1
@maxmase1 6 месяцев назад
2nd gen idols singing while dancing so the choreography doesn’t have to be that hard just give them space to sing but right now they do care about the choreography that is unacceptable
@n.137
@n.137 8 месяцев назад
I have high expectation for idol to sing live as my ult bias group set the standard too high in live singing. You definitely should take a look on BTOB. They are very well knowned of their vocal and live performance in SK. So sad they're underrated in international
@MalsawmzelaZela-bl7rj
@MalsawmzelaZela-bl7rj 8 месяцев назад
No cuz the mr removed videos make them sound so.. weird ,i think everytime its an idol singing in their lower tone they sound so off
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